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MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m. Public Services Building
Wednesday, March 27, 1991
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Grasser Horton, Commissioners Carson,
Casillas, Decker, Fuller, and Martin
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Commissioner Tugenberg, with notification
STAFF PRESENT: Assistant Planning Director Lee, Senior Planner
Griffin, Senior Civil Engineer Ullrich, Assistant
City Attorney Rudolf
pI.F. DQE OF AI.I.EGIANCE - SILENT PRAYER
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chair Grasser Horton and was followed by a
moment of silent prayer.
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS
Chair Grasser Horton reviewed the composition of the Planning Commission, its responsibilities
and the format of the meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Meeting of January 23, 1991
MSC (Fuller/Carson) 4-0-2 (Commissioners Decker and Martin abstained, Commissioner
Tugenberg absent) to approve the minutes of January 23, 1991, as submitted.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
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ITEM 1: PUBLIC HEARING: McDONALDS CORPORATION - APPEAL OF DESIGN
REVIEW COMMITTEE'S DECISION TO DENY INSTALLATION OF A 35
FT. HIGH FREESTANDING POLE SIGN AT 619 BROADWAY
Senior Planner Griffin gave the location of the project and noted the property presently contained
a 25 ft. high, 437 sq. ft. freestanding sign located in the play area adjacent to the street. The
sign was erected prior to the City's present sign regulations and was subject to abatement under
the City's 15-year sign amortization program, because it exceeded the size requirements by about
300 sq. ft. McDonalds proposed to replace the existing sign with a 35 ft. high 115 sq. ft. pole
sign to be located in the landscape planter in the northwest portion of the site. Mr. Griffin
stated the proposed sign complied with the dimensional standards for the site which would allow
a sign up to 35 ft. high and 145 sq. ft. in area. Mr. Griffin said, however, that the design and
composition of signs were also subject to qualitative discretionary design review in accordance
with principles itemized in the Zoning Ordinance regarding general aesthetics, proportionality
of the sign, and the context of the sign in relation to the signs on adjoining properties. Based
upon the Code, the Design Review Committee had taken the position of favoring lower profile,
more tasteful signs along Broadway and other commercial thoroughfares in the City. The
Design Review Committee denied the applicant's request as submitted and suggested either a
monument-type ground sign or a low-profile 25' high maximum sign with all copy contained
within a unified sign panel of approximately 72 sq. ft.
The applicant's appeal was based on three factors: 1) that their proposal met the dimensional
standards of the Code; 2) that staff's recommendations had been arbitrary, subjective, and based
on personal taste; and 3) that the recommended change in design could diminish the applicant's
national identity.
Senior Planner Griffin said that since the appeal had been filed, staff had conducted a survey of
free-standing signs within 500 feet of the site and found the average height of those signs to be
approximately 16-1/2 feet and a maximum height of approximately 30 feet.
Based upon the principles for sign design, the DRC's decision, and their intent to have lower
profile, more tasteful signs along the thoroughfares, and also the survey of surrounding signs,
staff recommended that the Commission deny the appeal and uphold the decision of the Design
Review Committee. He then showed slides of some of the other McDonalds locations; some
which had been approved by the County, and some in the City's jurisdiction under the present
sign standards.
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Commissioner Carson asked if either the sign on Bonita Road or "E" Street would be usable in
the subject area. Assistant Planning Director Lee answered it would be more difficult to try to
utilize a monument-type sign in this case because of the play land in front.
Chair Grasser Horton asked if the new developments east of 1-805 were subject to the same sign
regulations as the inner part of the City. Assistant planning Director Lee said that most of the
areas east of 1-805 are under planned community sign district regulations which are more
restrictive. The sign ordinance developed for the main part of Chula Vista was more of a
compromise ordinance in working with existing signs and the business community. Mr. Lee
said the sign limits were maximum, and consideration was given to the surrounding area in
working with the businesses to reach a compromise.
Answering Chair Grasser Horton's inquiry, Assistant Director Lee said the sign ordinance could
possibly be revised in the future.
Chair Grasser Horton commented the volume of the subject sign seemed to be large for the area.
The newer area of the City would not allow that type of sign. Assistant Planning Director Lee
commented that with the number of buildings with zero setback on Broadway, it is difficult to
work in an area with existing buildings, remodeling, and new buildings with more setback area.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Beatrice Kemp, 450 B Street, Suite 1080, San Diego, representing McDonalds, said that because
of the current location, the surrounding buildings and foliage, a 25 ft. high sign as proposed by
staff would not work. The trees obscure the signage. The proposed 35 ft. high sign would be
visible. She also had taken pictures of other signs in the area which appeared to be the 35 ft.
height. Ms. Kemp discussed the design of the sign and asked permission to use the sign
consistent with the other McDonalds signs. They would consider incorporating staff's design
if granted the 35 ft.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Carson asked about the trees hiding the sign.
Senior Planner Griffin answered staff felt there was adequate visibility at the 25 ft. height.
Another option would be for the applicant to move a 25 ft. high sign inside the area now
occupied by the present sign toward the center of the site.
Commissioner Decker asked if the applicant had the authority to have the trees on the adjacent
property trimmed. Senior Planner Griffin replied that it was the responsibility of the owners of
the property.
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Senior Planner Griffin pointed out that the second part of the recommendation to approve a 2~
ft. high sign would not necessarily limit the applicant to that; they could reapply for any sign
they wished, take it before the Design Review Committee, and then appeal if dissatisfied.
Commissioner Fuller asked about the number of different designs McDonalds had. Assistant
Planning Director Lee said that McDonalds had several different signs that were used throughout
the area and the United States, and that the Design Review Committee was suggesting something
that would not be contrary to their options available, but would fat into the area and hopefully
fit within their more typical sign program.
Commissioner Fuller objected to the word "sleazy" in the Design Review Manual. She asked
if any other signs along Broadway which were referred to in the staff report were to be changed
under the sign ordinance. Mr. Lee answered that the only signs that could be abated under the
abatement program were those which exceeded the maximum ordinance requirements. There
may be a number of signs that technically complied and would remain. Mr. Lee stated the
Design Manual was being modified to incorporate better design guidelines and terminology.
Commissioner Fuller commented that McDonaids Corporation had had to conform to design
standards throughout not only our community but also communities nationwide, and as long as
the golden arches were incorporated in the design, it carried out the national logo.
MSUC (Carson/Casillas) 6-0 (Commissioner Tugenberg absent) to deny the appeal.
MSC (Carson/Casillas) 5-1 (Decker voting against; Tugenberg absent) to approve a 25' high
freestanding sign with the restaurant's corporate logo arches incorporated within the sign cabinet
frame as suggested in staff sketch I.
ITEM 2: PUBLIC HEARING: PCS-91-03 - CONSIDERATION OF TENTATIVE
SUBDIVISION MAP FOR OXFORD TERRACE CONDOMINIUMS, CHULA
VISTA TRACT 9D03 - Avner Cohen
Senior Planner Griffin gave the location of the project site, designated as Mercantile and Office
Commercial with a special study overlay. The property was zoned R-V-15, Multiple Family
Residential allowing for 14-1/2 du/ac. The project had been approved by the Design Review
Committee and could be constructed as rental units; the purpose of the subdivision map was to
provide for sale of the units. Mr. Griffin said there was an apparent inconsistency between the
project and the Commercial designation of the General Plan and the Montgomery Specific Plan.
Staff had originally included in the staff report a recommendation which called for an
amendment to the plans prior to approval of the final map. Since the staff report was
distributed, it had been determined that the designation allowed for residential use under the
Montgomery Specific Plan. He referred to a memo distributed to the Commission which
recommended deleting that condition (condition q) from the report as well as a minor
clarification to condition f.
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The project was considered by the Montgomery Planning Committee who had not forwarded a
recommendation to the Commission, since they had failed to adopt the Negative Declaration by
a 0-6 vote. The Committee was concerned that the few students generated from the project
would be a significant environmental impact because of the overcrowded condition of the schools
serving this site. Staff recommended that the Commission adopt the Negative Declaration and
approve the subdivision map based on the findings and conditions noted in the staff report, as
amended by the staff memo.
Answering Chair Grasser Horton's query, Mr. Griffin said that there was not a problem
receiving water permits in the Sweetwater District.
Assistant Planning Director Lee noted there was not a final readout from Sweetwater. The
County Water Authority had adopted their ordinance, and if Sweetwater is purchasing water
from the County Water Authority, they had to comply with that which would result in a zero
net increase. The applicant, however, would have to go to the District and get a "will serve"
letter.
Commissioner Carson, referring to page 7 of the staff report, under Findings, said she did not
know what the housing needs were in the region. Mr. Griffin answered that staff looked at the
housing needs overall in the City and tried to address those to provide not only the number of
required low- and moderate-income units, but also a balance of that throughout the community.
Assistant Planning Director Lee added that the ability to provide condominium units west of
1-805 had been limited because of the area's 80% to 90% build-out. This project would add to
that the number of units available. He felt the duplex-type unit with garage would provide a
needed balance on the west side of the city.
Commissioner Carson asked if any consideration had been given to usage of low-tolerant plants.
She felt xeriscaping should be considered.
Assistant Planning Director Lee answered that the Landscape Planning Section reviewed each
plan as it came through the department, in some cases deferring landscaping, reevaluating the
amount of hardscape, and the types of plant materials, while awaiting the final results from Otay
and Sweetwater.
Commissioner Carson asked if there would be grading done on the site. Senior Civil Engineer
Ullrich answered that to recompact there would have to be some grading to reduce the expansion
potential.
Answering Commissioner Carson's query, Senior Planner Griffin said residential uses were
allowed under the Specific Plan designation and an amendment to the General Plan would not
be needed.
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Commissioner Decker asked if reclaimed water would be used for grading and compacting. Mr.
Griffin answered that Sweetwater Authority had not adopted specific implementation measures
in response to the County Water Authority's directive.
Assistant Director Lee noted that staff had met with an applicant who had a well in the vicinity
who had provided written correspondence to the City Council asking for consideration for an
emergency ordinance that would allow him to distribute water in the nearby area to people
needing it for grading. Something could possibly be in place in the near future to provide a
substantial amount of water for grading purposes.
Commissioner Decker questioned the adequacy of two guest parking spaces. Assistant Planning
Director Lee answered that the Council had increased the amount of parking required for two-
bedroom units, but had removed the specific requirement for guest spaces. In recent years,
there had been more of a trend toward garage parking for security purposes which provides a
better design element but creates some potential issues with guest parking. This is taken into
consideration by the Design Review Committee.
Commissioner Decker asked about the six students generated from the nine 3-bedroom homes.
Senior Planner Griffin answered that on a district-wide basis, this was the generation rate
provided by the District which they use to do their planning.
Commissioner Casillas asked if the garages had spaces in front of them. Mr. Lee answered that
there was only a back-up area.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Tim Jones, 978 Myra Avenue, Chula Vista, designer of the project, said they had been in
contact with Sweetwater Authority who had told them they were continuing to process their
project. They had a large amount of storage facilities and had no problem issuing water permits
for the project at that time. The applicant was also installing a fire hydrant to meet the Fire
Marshal's requirement. The gazebo had been replaced with a tot lot with playground equipment;
the trees had been replaced with passive recreational sodded areas. The applicant had spoken
with the Landscape Architect and had taken into consideration the usage of low-water-usage
plants. Regarding grading, there would be no import or export required for the project.
Minimal grading would be done for proper drainage and recompaction.
Commissioner Decker asked if the roadway was wide enough for cars to park. Mr. Jones said
it was a 24-foot roadway which the Fire Department requires to be red-lined. Therefore, there
would be no parking.
Commissioner Decker asked about the price range of the condominiums. Mr. Jones answered
it would be in the $125,000 to $140,000 price range.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
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Upon Commissioner Casillas' query, Mr. Jones described the exterior of the condominium.
Commissioner Fuller commented that she thought the project would be a fine addition to the
area. She was concerned that the Montgomery Planning Committee had failed to adopt the
Negative Declaration based on the concerns for schools. She felt their action was unwarranted
because of the scale of the project. She would like more feedback from the Montgomery
planning Committee as to their concern.
Commissioner Carson said she understood a Negative Declaration could not be disapproved
because of the schools. Senior Planner Griffin answered that the Environmental Review
Coordinator was going to meet with the Committee to try to explain what action is appropriate
in the case of schools.
MS (Decker/Martin) to adopt Negative Declaration, IS-91-10.
Chair Grasser Horton said she agreed with Commissioner Fuller in that she did not find the issue
regarding the schools significant. She would vote in favor of the motion.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Tugenberg absent)
MS (Decker/Fuller) that based on the findings contained in Section E of the staff report, approve
the Tentative Subdivision Map for the Oxford Terrace Condominiums, Chula Vista Tract 91-03,
subject to conditions, as amended by letter dated March 27, 1991.
Chair Grasser Horton added that she felt this type of project would benefit the Montgomery
ea It would bring health and a new economy to the area. She complimented the Design
ar ' · - ,,--- :-~- ,ne,, are doino She would vote in favor of the project.
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Commissioner Decker commended the applicant on their design.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Tugenberg absent)
Chair Grasser Horton said she had received a letter from Mayor Pro Tem Leonard Moore
requesting that the Planning Commission appoint a member for the Bayfront Task Force
Subcommittee.
As requested by Commissioner Fuller, Assistant Director Lee explained the task force make-up
and purpose. He did not know how often the task force would meet.
Assistant Attorney Rudolf recommended that action not be taken since it was not on the agenda.
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Chair Grasser Horton asked that it be placed on the next agenda.
Commissioner Carson asked staff to find out how often the task force would meet; and also
some input regarding the committee on which Commissioner Tugenberg had been serving and
how often they met.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
stated staff had contacted the Zoning Enforcement Division who
Assistant Planning Director Lee "H"
had taken a Saturday sweep down Street, Otay Lakes Road, and Bonita Road and picked
up approximately 350 subdivision signs. They would continue picking them up for a while;
written notice had been sent out.
GOMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Casillas commented on an article which had been in the Star-News regarding the
Bayfront asking people to write to two certain Councilmen; why not the whole Council?
Assistant Director Lee answered that the two Councilmen were Subcommittee members who had
been appointed by the Council and that was probably why the article directed correspondence
to them.
Commissioner Fuller commented that the City should take the initiative emphasizing xeriscaping
in landscaping. She suggested that it be a positive condition in the Design Manual.
Chair Grasser Horton asked if the new projects were required to use drip irrigation. Mr. Lee
explained that drought tolerant materials had been used for quite some time. Active play areas
are exempt if they are public. Some developers were taking a stronger posture as far as using
the xeriscape landscaping on private property. He went on to explain the City's role insofar as
public and private property landscaping. Mr. Lee said the City had tried to put more emphasis
on water management.
Commissioner Decker noted the lack of trees at some of the houses; he asked if they were
required to have a tree. Assistant Planning Director Lee said people remove the trees for
various reasons and it would be hard to police or to require them to replace the trees.
Commissioner Decker commented that he was interested in the Bayfront Committee, but if it
was to be held every week, he may have conflicts.
Commissioner Martin thanked the City for allowing him to represent the Commission at the
Conference in Monterey. He was interested to learn that the City of Chula Vista was probably
the only city in California that didn't have a paid Planning Commission. He showed a planner's
pocket guide he had gotten at the Conference. He said there was also a VHS tape for planning
commissioners put out by the League of California Cities which he recommended that staff
obtain for new planning commissioners. He suggested that staff attend one of the sessions.
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ADJOURNMENT AT 8:30 p.m. to the Regular Business Meeting of April 10, 1991 at 7:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers.
Nancy Ripley, Sect/etary
Planning Commission
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