HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1993/03/03 MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m. Public Services Building
Wednesday, March 3, 1993 276 Fourth Avenue, Chula Vista
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Fuller, Commissioners Carson, Martin,
Moot, Ray, Tarantino, and Tuchscher
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Leiter, Assistant Planning
Director Lee, Principal Planner Howard, Associate
Planner Reid, Senior Civil Engineer Ullrich,
Associate Civil Engineer Ouadah, Assistant City
Attorney Rudolf
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - SILENT PRAYER
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chair Fuller, followed by a moment of silent
prayer.
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS
Chair Fuller dispensed with review of the composition of the Planning Commission, its
responsibilities and the format of the meeting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
Chair Fuller stated that the order of the agenda would be changed because one of the Planning
Commissioners had a conflict of interest on the San Miguel item. The Commission would
consider Item 3 first.
ITEM 3. PUBLIC HEARING: GPA-93-04, APPLICATION BY EASTLAKE
DEVELOPMENT COMPANY FOR APPROVAL OF A GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR 51 ACRES OF EASTLAKE GREENS, LOCATED IN
TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, ONE SOUTH OF EASTLAKE HIGH SCHOOL,
THE SECOND IN THE SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF EASTLAKE
GREENS
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Principal Planner Howard stated the General Plan Amendment was proposed for two separate
parcels totaling 51 acres. Mr. Howard gave the staff presentation and noted that the staff
recommendation was to adopt the proposed addendum to the EastLake Greens Sectional Plan
Area EIR, finding there were no new impacts of the project not discussed in the EIR; and that
the Commission recommend approval of the proposed General Plan Amendment to the City
Council. He noted staff recommended the addition of a condition which would clarify (due to
the fact this was tied in with the Otay Ranch project in the EastLake Greens landswap area) in
case the Commission took a different recommendation on the EastLake landswap portion of the
Otay Ranch, reconsideration after a decision on Otay Ranch land uses, since that might change
the rationale for land uses on these parcels. Mr. Howard said there had been a community
forum where some concerns were expressed regarding the high density area proposal, the impact
upon the EastLake Greens Community in terms of the introduction of rental housing, as well as
the impact upon the community association. Staff felt the impact regarding introduction of rental
housing would be minimal both in terms of its location at the periphery of EastLake Greens and
the fact that it would be the only rental housing in this area; that it was a matter between the
EastLake Homeowners Association, the development company, and the homeowners as to the
disposition of this area within the EastLake Homeowners Association.
Commissioner Carson questioned the viability of EastLake returning before the Commission to
ask for 450 units which had previously been forfeited to the Kaiser project. She was also
concerned about the adjustment which had been made by the City Council on the number of
units. Looking at the maximum amount now proposed under the General Plan Amendment,
Commissioner Carson said the only difference would be 145 units. She felt this was not the
Council's intent.
Mr. Howard replied that it was his understanding that of the five areas redesignated, this was
the only one that would be coming back for potential redesignation; if this was approved as
proposed, there would be a different land use situation in the area that staff felt would justify
the proposed change. Regarding the Kaiser facility, the 450 units lost were the only units which
would have the potential for affordable housing in either EastLake I or II. EastLake had a
requirement from the Housing Element to provide 5 % low-income households and 5 % moderate-
income households. Based upon their application for this area, staff felt this was an appropriate
site for a small amount, in comparison to the overall number of dwelling units in EastLake, of
potential rental or potential affordable housing opportunities at these densities.
Commissioner Carson was concerned about the high density near the high school and the quality
of students coming out of the rentals.
Commissioner Ray was also concerned about the density increase and the net loss of 38 acres
of open space. He asked for the rationale for eliminating the open space.
Mr. Howard explained there would still be open space within the projects along the major
roadways, but no longer specifically shown on the General Plan. There would not be an actual
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loss of open space. Regarding the justification for multi-family homes, the property was not
suitable for single-family residential uses and there was a need for additional multi-family units
to provide for a balanced community within EastLake.
in the General Plan, but
Commissioner Tuchscher explained that it was the accounting for the open space that was
changing; the open space along the major arterials was counted as open spaced~lfid was no longer
being calculated as open space. Principal Planner Howard stated that the General Plan was not
meant to be precise as to the exact acreage; it was meant to represent that some buffer would
be along the roadway in order to provide a landscaped parkway or landscaped area within a
project to buffer to some extent the roadway from the development. It was never meant to be
scaled out.
Commissioner Tarantino asked about traffic; staff had stated in the report that there would be
no significant impact to the threshold, yet the Star-News had reported the project would generate
an extra 4,000 trips. Having served on the Growth Management Oversight Commission, he
understood that if all five projects along the Telegraph Canyon/Otay Lakes Road were approved,
that would already wave a red flag; that all those projects could not be approved and have the
current level of service remain the same without violating the threshold.
Mr. Howard explained staff's rationale which determined that as long they did not exceed the
original unit count that was reviewed for the original proposed project in EastLake Greens, they
would not get into new traffic impacts which had not already been accounted for.
Commissioner Tuchscher questioned how the land in the aqueduct area was handled, from a
construction and density standpoint--could it be built on and the real density. Mr. Howard
answered that the aqueduct could not be built on, and had a power line easement. For General
Plan purposes, it was also being shown as open space, and was not being counted as part of the
density allowed within the high-density area of the proposed General Plan Amendment area.
Commissioner Tuchscher concluded that the 400 units on that parcel were net units, not
including the aqueduct area. Principal Planner Howard concurred, and noted that there would
be additional easements going through that area. He also pointed out that if the General Plan
Amendment was approved, EastLake would still need to file a General Development Plan
Amendment and a SPA Plan Amendment, and while going through these different procedures
the area, after subtracting out areas for roadways and freeway right-of-ways, would get smaller
and the density would have to remain in the range. He believed the 405 units at mid-point
would probably end up being significantly less than that at the next phases of review.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Miss Katy Wright, EastLake Development Company, 900 Lane Avenue, CV, spoke of the
previous land swap with the Baldwin Company for a parcel south and west of the subject parcel.
In light of that land exchange, this specific proposal was before the Commission. EastLake
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Company believed the subject pamels warranted reconsideration in light of the high intensity,
high activity uses adjacent to them. The high density parcel had been one of five parcels
originally planned, studied, and proposed with the EastLake Greens proposal in 1989 and given
an interim low/medium density until such time EastLake could come back before the
Commission and Council and consider a more permanent designation on that site. They had not
specifically proposed apartments, but were proposing a multi-family use. That would be
determined at a different planning stage. Regarding affordable housing, they had met the
requirement in EastLake I; in EastLake Greens, the 10% affordable moderate income housing
requirement had been set aside until resolution of the density of the five parcels. This particular
site was a potential site for moderate-income housing, but a specific type of product home had
not been addressed.
Chair Fuller asked if that was the only site they would have for high-density affordable housing
within EastLake Greens. Ms. Wright said if the proposal was approved, it would be the only
high-density parcel in EastLake Greens. It would not, however, be concentrated in one location;
it would be a candidate site for a portion of those moderately priced homes.
Andre Chapman, 2470 Golfcrest Loop, CV 91915, spoke of the emotional commitment
involved in a neighborhood; he believed that by bringing in high density, it would bring in large
turnover, landlordship, tenantship, subletting, and the people did not have the same kind of
commitment and the same kind of stake in the future of the area. He felt this was a convenient
change for the worse.
Amir Pishdad, 2471 Golfcrest Loop, CV 91915, said he had lived in apartments and had made
a step up to EastLake Greens. It was advertised by EastLake that none of the homes in the area
would be apartments. He had written a letter to the Association, which was the developer. The
homeowners had not been informed by the Association of the impact of this high density. He
concluded there would be a loss of impact of financial dollars, as well as the monthly
assessments to the Association, if this area was designated for a rental project. It was advertised
as a country club type of living and this was not what was being represented at the meeting.
He asked the Commission to carefully study this proposal to ensure that the homeowners would
not be financially impacted; also the renters would not be paying Mello-Roos.
Mrs. Tess Sheckler, 1083 Waterville Lake Road, CV 91915, said as a recent property owner
in EastLake Greens, she was opposed to the proposed rezoning. She objected to the ambiguity
of the developer's statement that the proposed density would dictate housing types which may
be for sale or for rent. She saw this as an ill-conceived attempt to force rental properties to be
co-located with high-end residential communities and country club living. This would adversely
and directly impact property and resale values for existing properties. She and her husband had
invested a considerable amount of money and had risked a lot to afford their home. They had
no desire to be in close proximity to the type of residences that were being proposed. She
considered it a breach of implied contract for the type of community the developers had
advertised and sold to her. The renters would not have anything invested in the area and could
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move at any time. She concurred with Commissioner Carson regarding her comments about
students. She urged the Commission to not recommend approval of the proposal. She felt the
1989 approval still valid. However, if the Commission did recommend approval, she asked that
the Commission recommend prohibition of the number of rentals entirely or severely limit the
number of rentals and require that all rentals be included in the Homeowners Association and
that they be required to abide by the same Association requirements and covenants that the
current homeowners have to meet.
George Khoury, 2337 Eastridge Loop, CV 91915, concurred with the prior speakers, and
noted that the graffiti began after students started being bused from National City and San
Ysidro. He said that when people are brought from other areas that are of low income or high
density, that is what the residents would face. He said the developer was mostly interested in
turning their money to profit and were trying to create more income by turning the land to rental
apartments to create faster income.
Oscar Khoury, 2310 Eastridge Loop, CV 91915, was concerned with higher population, higher
traffic, more thieves, car thefts, transients who have no concern about cleanliness of the
neighborhood, overcrowding the high school, lack of control, and devaluation of homes. He
expressed their opposition to the project.
Bob McAlister, 2497 Golfcrest Loop, CV 91915, said he wanted to provide a safe community
for the people who live there and that the homeowners get to be a part of the Homeowners
Association. He was also concerned with the traffic generation; the proximity of the high
school; he hoped they would not see bars on the windows of the homes of the country-club style
living in EastLake Greens.
Teri Pishdad, 2471 Golfcrest Loop, CV 91915, said they had moved out of apartment areas
to get away from that, and she hoped they did not have to see that too soon again. The parks
already had a lot of graffiti and words the parents did not think their children should be seeing;
the parks were very noisy; neighbors couldn't sleep in their master bedrooms in the summer
because their bedrooms were next to the park where there was noise until 2 or 3 a.m.; children
are being bused in from other areas and some of the area children are having to be sent out to
other schools.
Martin Valdez, 2350 Eastridge Loop, CV 91915, supported his neighbors' positions and asked
that the Commission disapprove the plan.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Ray said he was torn on what may have transpired from 1989 to date. There
were comments regarding the City allowing something for potential financial gains. He wished
to go on record supporting staff's position who had taken their direction from City Council;
however, he felt the Commission had an obligation to the residents. Although there are no
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guarantees when anyone purchases property, he thought The Greens development was sold as
country style living. He was firmly opposed to a density change based on the comments heard
at the meeting; he thought there was a reason the Commission recommended and the City
Council approved the interim zoning in 1989. He would not like to see that changed at this
time.
Commissioner Moot questioned staff with respect to the lower triangle--the parcel not adjacent
to the high school--and asked if it was medium-high density in the surrounding area. Mr.
Howard discussed the various densities in the general area. The triangle was proposed for
change to be consistent with the immediate surrounding area, Commissioner Moot asked if the
triangular property could be considered separately from the property adjacent to the high school.
Mr. Howard answered that it could be bifurcated from the property.
At Commissioner Martin's request, Mr. Howard discussed density of several other areas.
Commissioner Martin stated that he would oppose the amendment. He liked the idea of the land
swap of 169 acres for 169 acres, but after studying it, he felt it was really not the same-ae~ea-~-.
Commissioner Tuchscher asked if everything east of the aqueduct was existing approved land
uses. Mr. Howard concurred. Commissioner Tuchscher commented that the audience had done
an excellent job presenting their cases and he appreciated their being sensitive to the other
speakers and not repeating themselves. He tried to explain to the audience the constraints the
City was under regarding affordable housing, stating that affordable housing was mandated by
the State. He said everyone likes it until it happens to be in their back yard, then it becomes
a negative. The noise, graffiti, etc. was not unique to EastLake or California regardless of
densities. It was up to the people who care to take care of it the best they can privately, but also
to make sure the City staff is aware that those things are ongoing so the City could respond to
it.
Commissioner Tuchscher questioned staff as to the urgency in dealing with the amendment in
light of the Otay Ranch project currently in process. Mr. Howard answered that it was filed by
EastLake last year, and staff felt that although it was dwarfed by the Otay Ranch, it was a
proposal that was in keeping with what was going on with the Otay Ranch and they felt it should
be considered at a concurrent time as opposed to a later date after the Otay Ranch is approved.
Chair Fuller expressed her feelings regarding finding areas to locate affordable housing, not
necessarily apartments or rentals. She said the Commission owed it to the people who live in
Chula Vista to be able to live everywhere--not just west of 1-805 and south of "L" Street, but
in places like EastLake in affordable homes. She was offended by the statements that young
people attending Chula Vista schools from affordable housing or apartments didn't measure up.
She felt the speakers had presented some valid arguments--the inequity of supporting the
Homeowners Association and the fees the homeowners were required to pay, traffic and noise.
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Commissioner Carson asked if there was an element in the Affordable Housing that said if a
place could not be found in the developer area, that the developer could elect--providing it was
recommended by the Department and the City Council--to buy a piece of property elsewhere and
put affordable housing in that area. Mr. Howard said the Housing Element included flexibility
to consider that.
Commissioner Moot commented that it was not a persuasive argument to him to say they did
not want other people in their neighborhood; however, he did not like the fact that when
decisions are made about affordable housing, it is put in the least attractive place in the project.
He felt affordable housing should be spread throughout the project in different pockets of the
project. He would like to see the triangular area bifurcated from the project and considered
apart from the parcel next to the high school.
Commissioner Carson objected to the General Plan Amendment because EastLake had previously
given up their 450 units to allow Kaiser to come in and were now requesting the units be built
in another area of the project.
Commissioner Tarantino said it was also very painful to him to sit through a lot of the public
testimony, because he had spent 20 years in education in the areas and in the neighborhoods in
which many of the people had talked against. His experience in working with those families and
children was different from the apparent perception of the speakers. He could see the rationale
for the General Plan Amendment and liked Commissioner Moor's proposal for bifurcation.
MS (Moot/Tarantino) to bifurcate the two parcels and consider them in separate votes, starting
with the parcel next to the high school and then the triangular parcel.
At Commissioner Tarantino's suggestion, the Commissioners decided to consider the triangular
parcel first, then the high school parcel since it was more controversial.
Mr. Pishdad approached the podium and asked that the Commission not consider the parcels
separately. Chair Fuller explained that the Commission was only changing the method, not the
intent of the motion.
Commissioner Martin agreed with Chair Fuller regarding the sensitivity of schools, but had a
problem with the land acre swap which took acreage out of the low/medium residential and
medium residential and put it in medium/high and high residential. He believed it would have
impacts on traffic and other thresholds; it would have a cumulative effect; he felt it would set
a precedent for future development and there needed to be more control.
Chair Fuller clarified that the first portion being looked at was the triangle which was
medium/high density which was next to medium/high density on three sides.
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Commissioner Moot, the maker of the motion, echoed Commissioner Martin's comments but
said he saw some logic for consistency in planning and why the change made sense at that time.
Commissioner Tarantino said he believed at the SPA level, further refinement in terms of density
could be made and in looking at the individual SPAs for those two parcels, the density probably
would be less. Mr. Howard concurred.
Commissioner Tarantino noted that the safeguards to which the Commissioners were referring
were there. Mr. Howard said that these projects, if approved at whatever density, would go
through further review.
Commissioner Ray commented that the land use to the west and south (Otay Ranch) had not
been officially designated medium/high density. Commissioner Moot concurred, and stated that
if the proposed Otay Ranch uses were not approved, the triangle would no longer be consistent
and the rationale for changing it would no longer exist.
Commissioner Ray noted that much of the area being considered was bordered by Otay Ranch
which had not been designated and which had not been addressed. He was concerned that the
decision made on this project would be counter to what would be proposed on the Otay Ranch
project, and would vote on the triangular parcel with what he would like to see in the Otay
Ranch there.
Commissioner Carson noted that the SPA plans, when they go back to the Coinmission, rarely
change. It might be adjusted by the City Council, but once the General Plan is approved, it is
difficult to change.
Commissioner Ray asked if the SDG&E easement running through the property was 200 ft.
wide, and asked how much additional buffer there was between the easement and the
medium/high density housing. Mr. Howard concurred that the easement was 200 ft., but the
additional setback or buffer would be determined at a later date. Commissioner Ray was
concerned with the high power lines, and asked if the City had made any recommendation for
SPA-level plans regarding buffering. Mr. Howard said there was no current policy, based upon
a lack of definitive information on the nature of EMF.
VOTE ON MOTION TO BIFURCATE THE TWO PARCELS FOR DECISION LATER:
6-1 (Carson "no")
Answering Commissioner Ray, Mr. Howard said the northern parcel should be referred to as
Subarea 1 and the southern parcel as Subarea 2.
MS (Ray/Carson) to deny the proposed amendment for Subarea 2.
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Commissioner Tuchscher asked for the maker's rationale. Commissioner Ray said it was based
on the density, the location of the power lines, and the fact that he was going to vote for lower
density on the Otay Ranch in that area. Commissioner Carson said she believed it was
premature and she would be in favor of a resolution with a contingency which gave the
Commission the right to come back for discussion, depending on the land use designation of the
Otay Ranch.
Commissioner Tuchscher concluded that Commissioner Carson would rather defer this decision
until the Otay Ranch land use designation had been decided. Commissioner Carson concurred.
Commissioner Tuchscher felt there was no more appropriate place for high density than near a
high traffic corridor and the power lines. Estate housing could not be put there, from a land use
perspective. At the same time, he had some difficulty in dealing with the two small corners
surrounded by the Otay Ranch and felt adjacent land uses were critical. He did not believe the
land owner should be expected to wait for a decision until after the Otay Ranch land use
designation; he felt a decision should be made one way or the other to give the EastLake land
owner some direction so they could move forward. However, rather than vote to deny the
amendment, he recommended that the maker of the motion modify it to defer the decision until
after the next meeting regarding Otay Ranch.
Commissioner Ray concurred, and asked that an additional condition which had been presented
by staff be read to those in attendance. Chair Fuller read as follows: "Be it further resolved
that the Planning Commission's recommendation of approval for this item is contingent upon
Planning Commission recommendation of approval for that portion of the Otay Ranch Project
known as the EastLake Land Swap, and if the Planning Commission makes any recommendation
on this area which is significantly different from the staff recommendation, then staff is hereby
directed to return this proposed General Plan Amendment to the next available Planning
Commission scheduled meeting agenda for discussion of potential reconsideration of the Planning
Commission recommendation." Chair Fuller noted that whatever action the Planning
Commission took, if they adopted the accompanying resolution, the issue could be revisited and
changed.
Commissioner Ray withdrew his motion, and the second agreed.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION:
MS (Ray/Carson) to table the issue to the first regularly scheduled meeting following the
discussion on land use issues for the Otay Ranch.
Commissioner Moot did not feel it should be put off, and that is was unfair to those who had
attended and spoken at the meeting.
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Assistant City Attorney Rudolf asked that the applicant be consulted as to whether they were
willing for the item to be continued.
Katy Wright, representing EastLake, concurred with the recommendation of continuance until
the Otay Ranch adjacency had been considered. She felt that gave it credence and made it more
logical.
Assistant City Attorney Rudolf asked that the continuance be to a time and date specific so the
item would not have to be renoticed.
Assistant Planning Director Lee suggested the item be continued to April 14.
Commissioner Martin stated that he wanted to be very clear that he was not for the project
because of the land swap; he concurred with Commissioner Moot that a decision should be
made. It could still be changed after the Otay Ranch land use designation.
AMENDED MOTION:
MS (Ray/Carson) to continue the item to April 14, at 7:00 p.m. following the discussion on
land use issues for the Otay Ranch.
Principal Planner Howard clarified that the motion included the entire proposal, not just Subarea
2. Commissioner Ray concurred.
VOTE ON AMENDED MOTION: 4-3 (Commissioners Tarantino, Martin, and Moot voted
against)
Chair Fuller noted the item had been continued to the meeting of April 14, and thanked those
who had attended.
Chair Fuller called a 10-minute recess at 8:50. The meeting reconvened at 8:57 p.m.
Commissioner Tuchscher was excused from the meeting at this time because of a conflict of
interest on the following project.
ITEM 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT FOR THE RANCHO SAN MIGUEL GENERAL
DEVELOPMENT PLAN (EIR 90-02) (SCH-90010155)
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ITEM 2. PUBLIC HEARING: PCM 93-14, PCZ 93-H; APPLICATION BY SAN
MIGUEL PARTNERS FOR APPROVAL OF A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT
PLAN AND PLANNED COMMUNITY PRE-ZONE FOR SAN MIGUEL
RANCH, LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE SWEETWATER RESERVOIR,
WEST AND SOUTH OF MOTHER MIGUEL MOUNTAIN, AND
NORTHEAST OF PROCTOR VALLEY ROAD - San Miguel Partners
Principal Planner Howard asked that these two items be considered simultaneously and presented
the staff report regarding the General Development Plan and Pre-zone and the major issues
regarding the surrounding properties. Mr. Howard requested the Commission to adopt the
resolution certifying the Final EIR for the project recommending that the City Council approve
the General Development Plan and the Pre-zone for the San Miguel Ranch Project.
Associate Planner Reid presented the contents of the Final EIR, noting that 10 letters of
comment had been received regarding the Draft EIR and 11 individuals provided testimony at
the February 10, 1993 hearing; response to comments had been incorporated in the Final EIR
with the errata and draft. Ms. Reid noted that final decision on the approval of the northern
portion was being deferred until after the NCCP process had been completed, and commented
on several points made in a letter received from California Fish & Game. A letter had also been
received from CalTrans, and Ms. Reid stated the City's Traffic Engineer had commented that
the project was in compliance with the City's General Plan and the traffic generated by the
project made use of the City's General Plan Circulation Element. Ms. Reid commented, also,
that the City and Sweetwater Authority were working closely regarding the impacts of the run-
off diversion system.
Commissioner Tarantino questioned the success of transplanting endangered plant species and
what happened if it was not considered successful. Barry Jones, the biologist on the project,
answered that all of the mitigation measures would be bonded, so that if at the end of the five-
year period the criteria had not been met the applicant would have the opportunity to try to
rectify the problem. If the conditions were not met, the City would have the option at that point
to pull the bond and rectify the problem. Answering Commissioner Tarantino, Mr. Jones said
there had been a fairly high degree of success in transplantation of Barrel Cacti; in the case of
wetlands, there had been a mixed success rate. There was very intensive monitoring, and it was
in the applicant's best interest to make it work. The City also required that a separate monitor
from the applicant's monitor be involved in the process in identifying problems early on.
Commissioner Martin asked how the Mitigation Compliance Coordinator would be paid and who
employed him. Ms. Reid said the City selected the consultant, and the applicant paid the
coordinator through a three-party agreement--paid by the developer through the City. Mr. Jones
commented that the Coordinator's role is as a City employee, looking out for the City's interest.
Ms. Reid said the Coordinator and Mr. Jones took their direction from the City ultimately with
developer input.
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Commissioner Moot asked for clarification of Mr. Howard's comment during the staff
presentation that the proposed development in the north could disappear entirely. Mr. Howard
answered that at the SPA Plan level, there may be an approved NCCP which would find that
the northern parcel was a key component of a regional open space network for preservation of
the Gnatcatcher. If that was the conclusion of the NCCP, it would preclude development on the
northern parcel. If the NCCP found that some limited amount of development was consistent
with the amount of resources on that type of parcel or did not come to fruition, at the SPA Plan
level there would probably be some development potential on the northern parcel. Replying to
Commissioner Moot, Mr. Howard said if the NCCP did not come to fruition, the City had the
discretion to require up to 100% preservation for various species with no development allowed
on the northern parcel.
Chair Fuller noted that if the northern portion is not developed, the developer had agreed to a
no-density transfer to the southern portion. Mr. Howard said that under the current General
Plan designations for the site, the developer would actually lose density on the southern parcel
because of the requirement for more estate lots on the southern parcel to make up for the lost
lots in the northern parcel; however, the applicant had the option to apply for a General Plan
amendment which would recoup all or part of the density from that parcel. There was no
commitment from the developer never to ask for a General Plan amendment.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Assistant Planning Director Lee clarified that the public review period had been closed on the
EIR on February 10, 1993, so the current public hearing was regarding the amendment to the
General Plan and the general development plan of the project.
(The following two speakers gave a prepared presentation on behalf of the applicant.)
David Nairne, 950-4350 La Jolla Village Dr., San Diego 92122 representing San Miguel
Partners, the project applicant, thanked Principal Planner Howard and Associate Planner Reid
of City staff, and Ms. Hon and Ogden for their assistance, and turned the presentation over to
Denise Ashton.
Denise Ashton, Tierra Planning & Design, 34191 Camino Capistrano, Capistrano Beach,
CA, representing the applicant, gave a pictorial presentation of the project.
Eugene J. Sprofera, 3311 Fairway Drive, La Mesa 91941, speaking as a legislative analyst,
was concerned with EMF. He asked for prudent avoidance and that safety standards be set.
He wanted to make a strong point that this was not the kind of project to put under power lines.
Robert E. Thompson, 6503 San Mignel Road, Bonita, noted the different organizations that
were against the project, and the project was predicated on future development that may not
happen. He asked that the Commission take a rational look at considering a project that nobody
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seemed to want except the developer, and that the Commission vote against the EIR and on the
site development plan.
Stephen Ezakovich, 7475 Carrie Ridge Way, San Diego, represented Sierra Club, South Bay
Group, who opposed construction or development of the northern parcel of Rancho Miguel. He
said its unique biological topographical features should exist undisturbed and be utilized as a
study area open space. They were concerned with the density of the southern portion; mitigation
of the loss of Diegan Sage Scrub, wetlands, sensitive flora and fauna; cumulative impact to the
natural environment. The asked that the Commission preserve the north parcel and decrease the
density of dwelling units in the south parcel maximizing natural open space or preserve the sits.
George Kost, 3609 Belle Bonnie Brae Road, Bonita 91902, commented on the cumulative
transportation problems, and the ultimate widening of several streets in Bonita, the economic
factor, and the impact to human beings, the air pollution, noise pollution, and crime. He
commented on the difficulty to decide on a project without knowing the routing of SR-125 and
the types of roads which would run north and south.
Michael J. Roark, 3645 Proctor Valley Road, Bonita 91902, speaking on behalf of the owners
of 3645-3655 Proctor Valley Road, and Sunnyside Ranch Equestrian Community, said he was
both for and against the project. He said the Bonita residents were in favor of the trails, and
land use and the plans for the norther community but the documents did not support that. He
said the documents were not correct; there had to be an overriding consideration for the benefit
of human beings and the northern portion had to be approved for development for appropriate
housing developments. He reiterated the concept of the Bonita residents as to the use of the
property. He stated the EIR was neither sufficient nor complete, issues were not mitigated in
the EIR; the EIR should be denied. He concurred with some of the ideas of the developer, but
Mr. Roark did not believe what was before the Commission was what the applicant wanted or
thought they were getting. He concurred with Commissioner Ray's comment at a previous
meeting that the project should not be considered as if SR-125 was a consideration. The project
had to stand or fall on its own merits without consideration of SR-125. He felt the applicant
should not have to give up land without compensation for SR-125, without knowing where it
would be located. Mr. Roark felt the northern territory should not be preserved for a species
which was not on the endangered species list, for plants which are easily replanted and grow
naturally, and for species that are common in the area. He suggested that the applicant's ideas
be considered, not just City staff.
Mary Renaker, 1374 Summit Avenue, Cardiff, representing the Endangered Habitats League,
and San Diego Sierra Club on the Multi-Species Habitat Conservation Plan in North County,
supported the project and said the land had highly significant habitat value in San Diego County;
the applicant had agreed not to plan development in the north section of the property until the
Statewide Natural Communities Conservation Program and the County's Multiple Species
Habitat Conservation Program had finished map and designing core reserves and corridors. Ms.
Renaker said the San Miguel project was critical for redefining California's development style
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for the future; the groups she represented were very concerned about the negative precedent
which could be set wherein their efforts to map and preserve critical habitats before they become
endangered are blocked by inflexible city codes. She felt if San Miguel Ranch was forced to
build a pristine, virgin landscape in order to satisfy municipal zoning ordinance requirements,
it would be a setback for their efforts. They were asking environmentalists also to re-examine
their views on building densities. She felt the California suburban ranchettes were too wasteful
of the air, land, water, and biological resources. Development needed to be clustered on less
sensitive land in order to preserve mountains, hills, and rivers for wildlife corridors and future
open space. In-fill, redesign and rebuilding was necessary where land had already been farmed
or paved, and virgin landscape should be left alone to preserve biodiversity. Ms. Renaker asked
that the requirement for the number of units on the less sensitive land be deleted, and the
previously approved density be allowed.
John Taylor, 3142 Orchard Hill Road, Bonita, was concerned with noise impact from SR-125
on the southern portion of San Miguel Ranch and the noise impacts on human and wildlife
health. He said continuous noise levels in excess of 80 decibels could cause documented
elevations on certain cholesterol and other stress hormones. Mr. Taylor said there was a federal
regulation establishing levels of noise exposure limiting human exposure to continuous sound
levels of 85 decibels for no more than 8 hours per day to avoid permanent damage to the inner
ear. SR-125 would produce significant levels of noise, and he felt additional in-depth study
should be done in order to be sure there would not be a health problem.
Muriel Watson, 3120 Anderson St., Bonita, spoke about horse trails, and said there was
nothing definitive regarding location or utilization. There was nothing specific dealing with the
rural lifestyle.
Gretchen Burkey, P. O. Box 321, Bonita, represented the Sweetwater Community Planning
Group who had concerns with the EIR and General Development Plan regarding mitigation of
biological impacts, the destruction of high visible landforms; size, scale, and intensity of the
proposed project; EMF and visible adverse impacts of locating residential development adjacent
to transmission lines; discussion of impacts of SR-125 should be terminated; proposed by-pass
road would bifurcate some properties which would create hardships of owners; further work
needs to be done on EIR before certification, and the GDP should be fine tuned.
Peter Warty, 81 Second Avenue, Chula Vista (assisted by Brent Rivers), representing
CROSSROADS, asked that the dwelling units on both parcels be limited to 1262 units and that
the Commission adopt the preservation plan which preserved the landform of Horseshoe Bend.
He was concerned with traffic, noise ambience level, and visual impact. He said the proposed
plan exacerbated the impacts in the regional facilities and would strain the County's ability to
provide services such as jails, animal control, health and social services. Mr. Watry noted the
Council had made it clear that the General Plan was a maximum, and the maximum number of
units did not have to be approved. He also was concerned about the increased number of power
lines to be installed after the project is completed, and grading the landform to the south to a
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flatland subdivision. CROSSROADS' proposal was to change the south parcel to a maximum
of 907 units with 357 units in the northern parcel with a total of 1262 units. He noted the
advantages of changing the density as requested, preserving the Horseshoe Bend formation and
building executive houses on top of Horseshoe Bend.
E. J. Burley, 6500 San Miguel Road, Bonita, representing the Sweetwater Valley Civic
Association stated the EIR was inadequate and inaccurate. He was concerned with flooding and
mitigation of water flow. They endorsed the recommendations of Mr. Roark.
Sheri Todus, 6001 Bonita Meadows Lane, Bonita, referring to Figure 2.3 of the Supplemental
EIR, was concerned that the proposed access road and the proposed SR-125 wiped out her home
and two of her neighbors. She did not believe SR-125 should be considered in the EIR since
it had not been definitely aligned, and she did not believe much of the project would be
compatible with her neighborhood.
Patricia Holland Roark, 3645 Proctor Valley Road, Bonita, reported that she had recently
attended a San Diego County Water Authority meeting. They had approved purchase of the
northern section and were negotiating with San Miguel Panners. She asked if this was the San
Miguel Ranch project or if it was another project.
David Nairne, San Miguel Partners, returned to the podium to answer questions. In answer
to Mrs. Roark, he stated they had received an offer from the County Water Authority to acquire
the northern portion of the property to be used as a biological preserve as mitigation for impacts
they had in both the water pipeline being proposed and for future projects. San Miguel partners
had not responded to the offer. In response to Ms. Todus' concern regarding the SR-125
interchange, the figure she was referring to in the Supplemental EIR had been deleted and was
not shown on their plan. The bypass road was taken from the Circulation Element of the
General Plan as it currently exists for the City. Regarding the horse trails, Mr. Nairne said
there were horse trails shown in their plan--approximately 6-1/2 miles--but that was a SPA level
review and the biologist would determine where they could go.
In answer to Sheri Todus, Associate Planner Reid said that Figure 2.3 in the Draft EIR showed
the proposed access road and transportation corridor; the wrong figure was included in the Final
Supplemental EIR; that interchange had been deleted and was no longer part of the new plan and
was not included in the analysis. That correction would be made before being presented to
Council.
Jim Burley returned to the podium to say there was an international riding and hiking trail from
Mexico to the Canadian border, and he felt the riding and hiking trails of this project should be
tied into this.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
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Chair Fuller commented that many of the concerns of the speakers were to be considered at the
SPA Plan level, and explained that the Commissioners were aware of these concerns but they
could not be specifically considered at the General Plan amendment level.
Commissioner Ray asked, with the omission of Figure 2.3 and no alignment of SR-125, could
the adequacy of the EIR be questioned? If that alignment was moved significantly or an off-
ramp or interchange changed, it would change the traffic flow significantly.
Katherine Hon, the EIR consultant, said there had been considerable discussion on this issue
because the alignment had not been determined and would not be determined for several years.
They had shown the alignment to be consistent with the General Plan, and that was the best that
could be done short of declaring a moratorium on all EIRs effected by that alignment.
Commissioner Ray asked if, in the opinion of Ms. Hon, with the uncertainty of the alignment
and the interchanges, that would meet CEQA requirements. Ms. Hon said it would; it was a
program level EIR which tried to address the concept of the development given the assumptions
which had to be made and using the City's General Plan as its basis.
Mr. Nairne approached the podium and asked that their attorney, Mr. Dillon, respond to that
question.
Mark Dillon, attorney for the applicant, said that based on Commissioner Ray's comments at
the last hearing, they had done some research to address that particular legal issue. He
concurred with the environmental consultant that the generalized alignment shown was the same
alignment that was shown in the Chula Vista General Plan. The CEQA cases they had looked
at allowed a development project to assume a generalized road alignment; if that alignment
changed down the line, the project would require revisions according to those changes.
Commissioner Ray commended everyone involved on the preserve plan. Regarding the concerns
about the run-off issue and recent flooding, the monitoring, and funding, he did not find
anything in the EIR.
Principal Planner Howard asked if Commissioner Ray was speaking of the general drainage
question or the question of run-off into the reservoir. Commissioner Ray clarified that it was
the run-off into the reservoir.
With Chair Fuller's permission, Mr. Nairne said that under the EIR, they were required to have
the plans for the run-off protection system approved by the Sweetwater Authority and to have
it fully constructed and fully operational before any grading could be started on the northern
portion of the development of the first house. That plan also involved a long-term maintenance
program in order to be acceptable and a funding source so the maintenance of that could be in
place. A two- or three-year bond would probably have to be put up for the start of that in order
to insure there would be funding available prior to houses being sold.
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Commissioner Ray asked if the Water Authority would be the monitoring agent, or if there
would be a third party.
Mr. Nairne answered that the Water Authority wanted to be the monitoring agent as part of their
existing mn-off protection system.
Chair Fuller clarified that by action that evening, the Commission was not establishing the exact
or final number of dwellings in either parcel. Principal Planner Howard said they were
establishing a maximum; that number was subject to further refinement at the SPA level. There
was additional uncertainty because of the northern parcel and the potential impact on decreased
density on the southern parcel as well.
Chair Fuller said there would not be a need to discuss the proposal by CROSSROADS at that
time, and it would be more appropriate at a later date. Principal Planner Howard pointed out
that the CROSSROADS proposal indicated that if there was no development on the north, that
density could be transferred to the south. If that happened, in fact the CROSSROADS proposal
would have a greater density than the staff recommendation. If there was a development in the
north, the density would be less. Mr. Howard noted that as he spoke, he had heard protests
from the audience.
With concurrence by the Commission, Chair Fuller recognized those speakers.
Mr. Sprofera said he did not agree with Mr. Nairne that Sweetwater Authority should make the
ultimate decision on the flood control. He felt that was what was wrong with the EIR--it left
the public out--and the public demanded that they be part of the EIR process and that it not be
turned over to an agency like Sweetwater Authority who was concerned about the water in the
lake. The public was concerned about where the water was going to mn off in the project, and
he felt they had that right.
Mr. Thompson was concerned that if the northern portion was sold, the southern portion would
have to stand on its own and a new EIR may need to be done.
Assistant City Attorney Rudolf clarified that the way the subject EIR was structured, if the
Commission found the EIR adequate and the norther parcel was sold, it would be an adequate
EIR for the project. If the northern portion became part of the NCCP in its entirety, the other
portion would still be developable.
Commissioner Ray stated that if the whole northern portion stayed open space, the same issues
would have to be readdressed at the SPA level before drawing any permits. Mr. Rudolf agreed--
to the extent the issues needed to be addressed.
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Commissioner Ray, referring to the Summary of Impacts and Mitigation, page 1-9, was
concerned about the buffer planned at the SPA level, and if more information would be available
on the EMF at that time.
Principal Planner Howard answered that there may be no further information on the EMF of a
conclusive nature; however, them would be other general land use compatibility, noise and
visual impacts to address, and there would be impacts to buffer through a buffer plan whether
or not there was more information on EMF.
Commissioner Ray was concerned about future liability for the Commission, the City, developer,
or anyone approving projects once the issue had been raised in a public hearing. He would not
be comfortable at a SPA level to go ahead with it.
Associate Planner Reid responded that staff had to rely on the scientific community, and if there
was no better information, staff was required to base the EIR on that information. If
Commissioner Ray was asking for consideration of something of a general nature by the City
in terms of a policy regarding EMF even though there had not been a stand by the scientific
community, that would be a different issue. Mr. Ray affirmed that was what he had been
considering.
Mr. Nairne stated that the comment regarding buffering had to do more with visual buffering;
under the SDG&E existing EIR for expansion of the facilities, there was a requirement for them
to do additional buffering. Depending upon where they finally locate their facilities, their
buffering should be adequate. Their development is located on the east from the development
and, therefore, any present development is as close as any development would be; everything
in the future phases would be further away.
Chair Fuller said that she believed everyone shared Commissioner Ray's concerns regarding the
buffering and there should be comprehensive planning between SDG&E and the developer to
make sure it is not only visually buffered, but for protection. The developer and SDG&E want
that protection.
Motion by Commissioner Tarantino to certify that the Final EIR-90-02 for San Miguel Ranch
has been prepared in compliance with CEQA and the State CEQA Guidelines and the
environmental review procedures of the City of Chula Vista and adopt the recommending
resolution including items a through e on page 2-2 of the staff report.
Commissioner Carson suggested that each part he taken individually, because she had a concern
with the overriding considerations. Commissioner Tarantino agreed.
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AMENDED MOTION
MSC (Tarantino/Carson) 5-1-1 (Commissioner Ray opposed; Commissioner Tuchscher-
conflict of interest) to certify that the Final EIR-90-02 for San Miguel Ranch has been
prepared in compliance with CEQA and the State Guidelines and the environmental review
procedures of the City of Chula Vista.
MS (Martin/Tarantino) to adopt the attached recommending resolutions approving the General
Development Plan based on findings and conditions, adopting an ordinance establishing the
Planned Community Prezone, approving the CEQA Findings, and approving the Mitigation
Monitoring Program for the EIR.
Commissioner Ray said he had some very specific concerns about this EIR and several other
EIRs that were before the Commission, but the Commission would have an opportunity to
change some things they were not comfortable with at the SPA level. He was concerned about
voting on the CEQA Findings since he had voted against certification of the Final EIR; however,
he was not against other parts of the motion.
Assistant City Attorney Rudolf suggested that the CEQA Findings be bifurcated from the motion
and considered separately. Chair Fuller asked the maker of the motion of he would agree to
that. Commissioner Martin concurred.
AMENDED MOTION
MS (Martin/Tarantino) to approve the General Development Plan based on findings and
conditions, and adopt the ordinance establishing the Planned Community Prezone.
Commissioner Moot said they were not voting on the actual number of units that would be in,
and he wanted to go on record that he had a tendency to support the CROSSROADS
recommendation but it didn't seem appropriate at this level to make that specific a finding.
Commissioner Carson stated that in the resolution there was a maximum of 1,654 dwelling units
and the Commission would have to look at dropping at least 300+ dwelling units if it was to
be dropped to 1,262. Assistant City Attorney Rudolf said the new plan had a maximum of
1,619. Principal Planner Howard noted the maximum number in the resolution should be 1,619
and it would be corrected.
VOTE ON MOTION: 6-0-1 (Commissioner Tuchscher-conflict of interest)
MSC (Fuller/Moot) 4-2-1 (Commissioners Carson and Ray voted against; Commissioner
Tuchscher-conflict of interest) to approve the CEQA Findings of EIR-90-02.
MS (Fuller/Ray) to approve the Mitigation Monitoring Program for EIR-90-02.
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Commissioner Ray asked if they were to sell the northern portion, would there have to be a new
mitigation monitoring plan put in place. Associate Planner Reid said it would be necessary,
because this was for the General Development Plan level and they still had to go through a SPA
Plan level environmental for the south parcel. There would be a mitigation monitoring plan for
the SPA level; however, much of it was already set up and in place in the mitigation monitoring
program.
Commissioner Ray was concerned that if the dwelling units were dropped to a certain point, it
would not be feasible to do some of the mitigation monitoring proposed for the San Miguel
Ranch. If the norther portion was not included in the project, would it still be economically
feasible to implement the mitigation monitoring plan. Mr. Nairne answered that the plan was
separated and if the north was sold as open space, all the mitigation monitoring plan was divided
into north and south issues, all the north issues would go, the south issues would stay, and those
which would apply to the whole project would have to be complied with.
Assistant City Attorney Rudolf stated that staff and the consultants agreed with the statement of
Mr. Nairne.
VOTE: 6-0-1 (Commissioner Tuchscher-conflict of interest)
MS (Fuller/Moot) to approve the Statement of Overriding Considerations for EIR-90-02,
San Miguel Ranch.
Commissioner Carson stated she had concerns regarding Horseshoe Bend; she believed it was
a landform which should be preserved.
Principal Planner Howard said to preserve Horseshoe Bend and Gobbler's Knob would require
a significant alteration to the proposed project to the point where the EIR and GDP would need
to be redone. In order to approve the proposed General Development Plan, the Commission
needed to find overriding findings of the visual impact of Horseshoe Bend and Gobbler's Knob
grading. Mr. Howard suggested that if there was a concern that Horseshoe Bend and Gobbler's
Knob should be preserved, the Commissioner should not vote for the proposed project.
Commissioner Carson said them were many things about the project she liked; the elimination
of Horseshoe Bend was the one thing she did not agree with. She would vote against the
overriding considerations to let the City Council know she had one objection.
VOTE: 4-2-1 (Commissioners Carson and Ray voted against; Tuchscher-conflict of
interest)
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Chair Fuller called the Commission's attention to the schedule for the next two months, noting
the next meeting to be held would be Saturday, March 13. Commissioner Ray stated he would
be out of town.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT - None
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Moot noted he had received a periodical on land use form in which the
Commission may be interested.
ADJOURNMENT at 11:38 p.m. to the Special Meeting of the Joint Chula Vista Planning
Commission/County Planning Commission on Saturday, March 13, 1993, at 9:00 a.m. in the
Council Chambers; Special Meeting of the Joint Chula Vista Planning Commission/County
Planning Commission on Wednesday, March 17, 1993, at 5:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers;
Special Meeting of the Joint Chula Vista Planning Commission/County Planning Commission
on Wednesday, March 24, 1993, at 4:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers with a Special Chula
Vista Planning Commission meeting to follow immediately afterward at approximately 7:30 p.m.
Nancy Riple~, secret/ary d
Planning Commission
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