HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1994/08/24 MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers
7:05 p.m. Public Services Building
Wednesday, August 24, 1994 276 Fourth Avenue, Chula Vista
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Vice Chair Ray, Commissioners Salas, and
Tarantino
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Commissioners Fuller and Tuchscher (excused), and
Moot
STAFF PRESENT: Assistant Planning Director Lee, Principal Planner
Griffin, Associate Planner Batchelder, Community
Development Specialist Martinez, Redevelopment
Coordinator Kassman, Contract Attorney Basil
MOTION TO EXCUSE
MSC (Tarantino/Martin) 4-0 to excuse Commissioner Tuchscher who was out of town.
It was noted that Commissioner Fuller had been excused at a previous meeting.
Vice Chair Ray acted as Chair in the absence of Commissioner Tuchscher.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice Chair Ray led in the pledge of allegiance to the flag and a moment of silence.
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS
Vice Chair Ray reviewed the composition of the Planning Commission, its responsibilities and
the format of the meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
As requested, the Commission considered Item 2 before Item 1.
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ITEM 2: PUBLIC HEARING: GPA-90-9(A): CONSIDERATION OF STATE-
MANDATED REVISIONS REGARDING THE 1991 HOUSING ELEMENT OF
THE CITY GENERAL PLAN--CHAPTER 1451, STATUES OF 1989,
RELATING TO THE PRESERVATION OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AT RISK
OF CONVERSION
Associate Planner Batchelder presented the staff report, noting that these are City-initiated
amendments to portions of the Housing Element that were previously approved by the
Commission in February 1992. There were changes in State law which required revisions to
the "at-risk housing analysis" portion of the Housing Element.
Commissioner Salas asked if the projects in question could be taken over by community groups,
and if the community groups mentioned in the staff report were working on taking over the
projects or if they had expressed an interest.
Mr. Batchelder stated that those individuals had expressed interest. They are all non-profit
organizations, and the State law indicates that non-profit organizations and/or the City be given
first right of opportunity to take over the complex if the owners propose to convert it from non
low-income use.
Community Development Specialist Martinez added that two of the complexes out of the 386
units, which represent four apartment complexes, are currently in negotiation with the City and
with South Bay Community Services to keep the units affordable. They were not near any
conclusions regarding price or terms.
Commissioner Salas asked if South Bay Community Services, at this point, was the only non-
profit organization which had expressed interest, and which projects.
Mr. Martinez noted the projects were Oxford Terrace and Palomar Apartments.
Commissioner Salas clarified that there was not a large risk of the projects being taken out of
the low-income housing market at this point in time. Mr. Martinez concurred.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened. No one wishing
to speak, the public hearing was closed.
MS (Martin/Salas) that the Planning Commissioners considered the Negative Declaration
(IS-92-08) and Addendum thereto (IS-92-08A), and adopt Resolution GPA-90-09(A)
recommending that the City Council approve and adopt the proposed amendments to the
Housing Element of 1991 in accordance with the draft City Council resolution and the
findings contained therein.
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Vice Chair Ray asked if, upon an application to convert from the prior designation as it was
built, they would still be required to go through all the same normal procedures. Mr. Batchelder
concurred.
VOTE: 4-0 (Commissioners Fuller, Moot, and Tuchscher absent)
ITEM 1: PUBLIC HEARING: PCA-94-05: CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS TO
SECTIONS 19.58.225 AND 19.60.600 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO
ALLOW FREEWAY-ORIENTED ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGNS
TO BE ESTABLISHED "OFFSITE" AT SELECTED LOCATIONS - City
Initiated
Principal Planner Griffin stated that when the City originally negotiated with the auto dealers,
specifically Fuller Ford and South Bay Chevrolet, regarding the Auto Center on Otay Valley
Road, one of the agreements reached was that the City would assist the dealers in either
obtaining a message board-type sign on the freeway or changing the name of Otay Valley Road.
The decision was not to pursue a name change on Otay Valley Road, but to pursue an
amendment to the Code to allow off-site message board signs. This is a new concept, coupled
with the electronic message board amendment which was made approximately two years
previously which would allow message boards in the Town Centre and Otay Road
Redevelopment Areas. Mr. Griffin noted that the Otay Valley Road Project Area Committee
had considered this item on Monday and requested that four areas of interest be transmitted to
the Commission and Council: 1) they felt this was a selective amendment that was favoring the
Auto Center and thought other businesses should have the opportunity to establish this type of
sign, as well; 2) concerned about the provision which would prohibit secondary advertising on
the sign; 3) felt the City should make an attempt to notify the residents once a particular sign
design came in--those residents close to the freeway would have to look at the sign, 4) felt it was
important that the sign be well designed, sensitively designed, because it would reflect on the
image of the City. Mr. Griffin noted that the City Attorney's office and the Planning
Department had been working on a legal question regarding proposed item (0 in the resolution.
He asked that the Commissioners consider an additional paragraph being distributed to them
which would formally indicate that the Commission recognizes that there was work continuing
on that item and it may be changed prior to going to the City Council.
Commissioner Martin stated this would not be a flashing sign with a big arrow; it would be a
sign tastefully done with information running across it to be seen by the public. There would
not be a lot of light coming from the sign. He felt that particular phase of the lighting program
should have no impact on the residents living on the side of the hill, and asked if the residents'
concerns had been addressed.
Mr. Griffin answered that there was no specific design; the conceptual designs limit the size of
the message board part of the sign to text. He did not think it would be type of sign which
would be large with dramatic light effects. If, in fact, that was proposed the residents would
be informed and they would have an opportunity to comment.
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Commissioner Martin asked who would own the sign and who would pay the light bill. Mr.
Griffin said the Auto Center dealers would lease the land from the owner of the property and
construct the sign at their expense and maintain it at their expense.
Commissioner Martin asked if there were others interested in advertising on it. Mr. Griff'm said
that was an unknown--there potentially could be. Mr. Griffin commented that this amendment
had been incorporated into the electronic message board guidelines already in place, which
required a minimum 30% public service-type messages each hour that the sign was in use.
Commissioner Salas asked if the sign was similar to the one in National City west of 1-5. Mr.
Griffin said the electronic message board part would be similar in size to the ones in the
National City signs; he did not know whether or not there would be multiple sign faces in that
same arrangement or encasements.
Commissioner Tarantino had envisioned something along the lines of the signs of the Mile of
Cars and not the size of the sign announcing Plaza Bonita. Referring to the additional verbiage
given to the Commission during the staff presentation, Commissioner Tarantino asked if it was
the intent that the four concerns of the Otay Valley Road Project Area Committee would be
resolved in terms of the favorite son status of the Auto Park only--no secondary advertising.
Mr. Griffin said that the continuing work on item 'f' was more related to legal concerns as
opposed to the Otay Valley Road Project Area Committee concerns. They were independent and
should be judged independently.
Commissioner Ray was concerned that if the amendment was adopted with Section 19.58.225,
it would preclude Exhibit A from being modified--only Section 19.60.600. Mr. Griffin
answered that it would not prohibit it--Council would take the Planning Commission
recommendation and amend it substantially on their own and adopt it in a different form. It was
staff's intent to make the Commission totally aware that 19.60.600(f) was still being revised and
not find out later that it had been changed after the Commission's recommendation without
consulting them. They were asking the Commission to go forward with it with a degree of trust
that staff was not going to change the intent, but only looking at the legality of it and trying to
word it appropriately.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Lise Strandgaard, of Construction Management & Development, 5469 Kearny Villa Road,
#305, San Diego 92123, representing the auto dealers, stated there was not a specific sign design
before the Planning Commission because they were trying to work with staff. There were
different types of reader boards, but they wanted to move forward with the amendment. Ms.
Strandgaard noted the dealers' surprise that there was a 30% requirement for public service
messages. The dealers would rather have a 15% requirement. She thanked staff for their effort
and moving it forward; they supported the changes to the amendment but recommended that item
(b) be modified to perhaps a 10% requirement. They had no problem limiting commercial
advertisement, but felt 30% for public notices was excessive when they were trying to advertise
to increase car sales.
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Comanissioner Martin noted that 30% was 18 minutes. The public notices would be bullets; he
liked the idea of the community having a vehicle for communication. He did not think 18
minutes out of an hour was a lot. Ms. Strandgaard disagreed, because the automobiles go by
the sign so quickly that it might hurt business, not just give public notice. She did not know
where staff got the percentage.
Assistant Planning Director Lee stated it was part of the existing ordinance, which was originally
crafted to address the downtown area on Third and "H". The percentage was set by Community
Development in part in looking at trying to provide a public service percent. For it to be broken
down by zones would require additional review by Planning and Community Development,
readvertising and another public hearing. If the auto dealers wanted this to move forward, it
would have to move forward as it stood. The item could be continued or they could come back
and revisit this issue under a separate amendment.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Salas noted that Mr. Lee had brought up options for the car dealership, and she
wanted to know what Ms. Strandgaard thought about the options.
Vice Chair Ray reopened the public hearing and Ms. Strandgaard reapproached the podium.
Ms. Strandgaard asked that the Commission proceed with the amendment, and if they want to
go back and readvertise, they would have to do so. They wanted to proceed with the existing
requested amendment and supported staff's recommendations, and they would work with staff
regarding the 30% requirement.
Vice Chair Ray asked if the Commission approved the amendment, item "b" would be have to
be approved "as is" or if another item could be added that would include negotiations between
the applicant and the City. Assistant Planning Director Lee thought it could be done if the
options were left open as the item moved forward to City Council, making sure that the
advertisement for the hearing before the City Council. Staff would want to make it clear to the
Council what issues were discussed with the Commission.
Ms. Strandgaard stated that, at this point, even though the item had not yet been carried forward
to Design Review, they were trying to get a reader board out as soon as possible with the
opening of the auto mall happening in the next month. They did not want to slow the approval
up; they could install a reader board advertising the 30% and still try to work with Council at
a later time. Mr. Lee felt that would work best from a timing perspective.
Commissioner Martin noted that it was still the auto park providing the community with the
service.
Mr. Lee stated that it had not been discussed with Community Development or the applicant;
there should be further discussion and brought back before the Commission later.
Vice Chair Ray then closed the public hearing.
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MS (Martin/Salas) 4-0 to adopt Resolution PCA-94-05 recommending that the City Council
amend Sections 19.58.225 and 19.60.600 of the Municipal Code in accordance with the
draft City Council ordinance and the findings contained therein, and to recommend for
further approval of said amendments is in recognition that proposed Section 19.60.600(0
may be modified in consultation with the City Attorney's office prior to final approval and
adoption by the City Council.
Vice Chair Ray was concerned that the Commission was approving Section 19.60.600(0 open
but approving 19.58.225. He asked for assurance that there was not a conflict, and received that
assurance from staff.
VOTE: 4-0 to approve.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Assistant Planning Director Lee commented that regarding the last item, staff could come back
to the Commission depending on when Council takes their action, either before the second
reading or before the ordinance becomes effective at the end of the 30 days, to give the
Commission the final language. If there were any concerns on the part of the Commission, that
would be carried before the Council. Vice Chair Ray stated he would feel more comfortable
with that.
Mr. Lee distributed the proposed Commission calendar, and reminded the Commission that a
decision would be needed prior to November as to the meeting preceding Thanksgiving. There
were five Wednesdays that month, and the Commission could possibly have a meeting on
November 30. Mr. Lee noted a dinner workshop was scheduled for September 21.
Referring to a memo from the Mayor delivered to the Commission that evening, Mr. Lee stated
the Mayor would like for the Commissioners to review the attached SANDAG report regarding
the projected growth. The Mayor wished to have the Commissioners' input; SANDAG would
be providing the Commissioners with a presentation at the workshop on September 21, which
was planned at that time to be a joint session with the RCC members. Mr. Lee noted a
projected growth of 1.3 million by 2015, 52% was natural increase in the area--not people
moving into the area. Recommendations needed to be back to City Council by November.
Mr. Lee noted the workshop topics to be held in future monks, and stated that ~e next
Commission meeting would be held September 14, 1994. He again reminded the Commissioners
of a workshop scheduled for Saturday, September 10, and to contact the secretary if they wished
to attend.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS - None
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ADJOURNMENT at 7:45 p.m. to the Regular Business Meeting of September 14, 1994, at 7:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers.
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