HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1982/07/14 MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
July 14, 1982
A regular business meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista,
California was held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers, Public Services Building, 276 Fourth Avenue.
Commissioners Present: Pressutti, Williams, Green, G. Johnson, O'Neill,
Stevenson and R. Johnson
Commissioners Absent: None
Staff Present: Principal Planner Lee and Assistant City Attorney
Harron
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chairman Pressutti, and was
followed by a moment of silent prayer.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC (Stevenson-O'Neill) (Commissioner R. Johnson abstained) The minutes of
the meeting of June 23, 1982 be approved as written.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Pressutti called for oral communications and none were presented.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional use permit PCC-82-21, request to convert an
existin§ service station at 800 Palomar Street into a
mini-market/self-serve station - Atlantic Richfield Company
Principal Planner Lee advised that the existing full-service station, located on
the northwest corner of Palomar Street and Walnut Avenue, is proposed to be
converted into a 24-hour self-serve gas station/mini-market. Access to the gas
station and AM-PM mini-market would be from both of the aforementioned streets.
A slight modification to the landscaping on the west side of the building is
requested to improve circulation, assuring easier access of vehicles out of the
pump area.
The two existing freestanding signs on the property were discussed, with Mr. Lee
relating that the 24' high pole sign at the southeast corner of the property
is to be replaced with a monument sign similar to what ARCO has used in several
other locations; it is not to exceed 8 1/2' in height. The 43' high freeway-
oriented sign will be allowed to remain until the Planning Commission notifies
the applicant to remove under adopted abatement laws. The 24-hour sign on the
building is to have letters of restricted height - 20 inches vs. the proposed
30 inches.
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Mr. Lee referred to the trade-off in eliminating the station's service bays
and in providing 24-hour convenience shopping, noting that alternate repair
facilities exist in the motoring area. It was pointed out that this would
be ARCO's 5th such conversion in Chula Vista and that Staff had no objections
to this proposed mini-market/self-serve station. It was suggested that the
building color scheme be in earth tones, as covered in the staff report, rather
than in the red and purple color used in other commercial uses.
Mr. Lee elaborated on the revised "24-hour" sign and noted the limitations to
the liquor display area. It was noted that two restrooms would be provided;
one inside for the employees and one outside for the public.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
George Ryan, representing ARCO, stated he had discussed the proposal with the
staff and had no problems with the conditions. He advised they would add the
planter box to the rear as suggested and would modify the site plans to handle
the planting to the west. Mr. Ryan noted that the "24-hour" sign, as in other
submittals to the City, would conform to what was requested. The freeway-
oriented sign, which is in the same category as the one on "H" Street, was not
expected to present a problem. He assured the Committee that the other required
modifications would be made.
Commissioner Green voiced his concern regarding section 2c of the staff report
and said he believed it was an unncessary condition. This section limits the
size of the beer/wine cooler box, and Mr. Green felt it was not the Commission's
business to dictate what goes inside the store.
Mr. Lee stated that the size limitation had been challenged in the past, and
that the City Council had upheld the limitations on the cooler size.
Commissioner O'Neill took this opportunity to commend the City staff on Walnut
Avenue's new paving, sidewalks and curbs.
MSUC (O'Neill-G. Johnson) The Commission finds that approval of this conditional
use permit will have no significant environmental impact and adopts the Negative
Declaration issued on IS-82-34.
Commissioner Green moved to amend the Condition 2c under recommendation to eliminate
the size of the beer and wine cooler. The motion died for the lack of a second.
HSUC (O'Neill-G. Johnson) Based on the findings in the report, the Commission
approves the request for a conditional use permit to convert an existing service
station at 800 Palomar Street into a mini-market/self-serve station subject to
the 12 conditions listed in the staff report.
2. Consideration of appeal of denial by Design Review Committee of PCM-82-27
request for freestanding restaurant at 500 block of
Telegraph Canyon Road - McDonald Corp.
Commissioners G. Johnson and Green indicated they would abstain from the item due
to personal/professional involvement with applicant Sutherland of McDonald's.
Principal Planner Lee advised that the proposed McDonald's site in Canyon Plaza
shopping center is the last buildable space in the center. The Design Review
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Committee (DRC), formed since the existing structures were built, had recently
rejected McDonald's design proposal due to differences involving the light bars
on the roof and the double slope of the roof. The DRC wanted a single-slope
roof to blend in better with the other existing stores in Canyon Plaza, whereas
McDonald's wished to retain their traditional double-slope roof. Mr. Lee
stressed that the DRC concluded that the proposed drive-thru restaurant would
be an asset to the area, and were concerned only in making it compatible in
design.
Chain~an Pressutti asked about the downtown San Diego McDonald's and its obvious
difference from other McDonald's. Mr. Lee replied that the corporation
acknowledges making many changes when not involved with a freestanding building.
In answer to Commissioner Williams' question regarding the Foto-Mat kiosk in
Canyon Plaza, he was told that it was such a small building that the Planning
Department handled the design approval.
Commissioner Stevenson inquired about the exact location of the proposed drive-
thru, and Mr. Lee informed the Commission of its relative location to the other
buildings along Telegraph Canyon Road. He further told the Committee that all
existing structures in the shopping center were built before the formation of
the DRC, thus the Bank of America and Household Federal buildings varied from
the main shopping center stores.
Commissioner O'Neill commented on the McDonald's next to Mulvaney's, saying it
was supposedly a double-pitch roof but appeared single-pitch from where he
observed it. Mr. Lee advised that straight-on it could appear that way due
to their sign in front. He apprised the Committee that roofline pitch is a
subtle thing, but one the DRC considers important in this instance.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Yates Stirling, construction engineer for McDonald's, referred to a slide pre-
viously shown by Mr. Lee of one of their North County franchises. He said that
was an entirely different situation than the current one. In regards to the
roofline of the savings and loan in the center, he stated slides from a
different angle would be shown later in the interest of fairness.
Sandy Verheyen, representing McDonald's, told of their efforts to comply with
DRC requests concerning color, trim, fascia, timbers, landscaping and parking.
The one big hang-up remained the slope of the roof. She recounted how valuable
to the image of McDonald's their patented, double-mansard roof was considered
to be, and how it was a nation-wide identification tool. Ms. Verheyen showed
slides of other McDonald's in the county and of the Canyon Plaza center, with
particular emphasis on the rooflines of the Household Federal and Bank of
America buildings. She felt their proposed building with double-slope roof
would be a harmonious and attractive addition to the shopping center.
Mr. Pressutti was interested to know if economics played a large part in their
unwillingness to change the roof pitch, since he doubted many people could
match roofs with businesses.
Ms. Verheyen responded that economics had no part in their decision; further-
more, that she felt the roof design was a form of identification as are
McDonald's golden arches. In answer to Commissioner Stevenson's question
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about the roof tile, she assured him it would be matched exactly.
Commissioner Williams mentioned two other points of contention in the staff
report: light bars and heavier fascia. Ms. Verheyen informed the Commission
that the light bars had been in the background, and the heavier fascia was new
to her but should pose no problem. Mr. Lee reported that McDonald's had
widened their fascia somewhat and that a slight increase would bring it into
better proportion. The light bars had been minimized somewhat by their
agreeing to wrap them in wood. Mr. Lee referred to the McDonald's playland
issue, and said that portion of the proposal had come in at the last minute.
He related the DRC had no objections to it, and felt it would be appropriate
so long as it did not dominate the site and staff could review the play equip-
ment for proper scale.
Glenn Beck, employee at the Bonita McDonald's, spoke about the good works and
outstanding character of Mr. Sutherland, owner-operator of McDonald's-Bonita
and owner-operator of the proposed McDonald's in Canyon Plaza. A sketch of
the proposed nautical theme for the interior of the structure was displayed.
Mr. Pressutti concurred in Mr. Sutherland's community standing, but wondered
if McDonald's could change the interior decor at will and still maintain their
image, why were they so insistent on the roofline issue, and were economics
involved. Mr. Beck said a roofline change would be out of Mr. Sutherland's
pocket, but that more importantly altering the roofline would adversely affect
the roof fans and the energy efficiency of the airconditioners. On the point
of enerqy efficiency, Mr. Pressutti acknowledged the Commission could relate
to that more easily than to merely a roof pitch. (However, no evidence was
submitted to support that point.)
Emerald Randolph and Fred Ferguson both attested to the generosity of Mr.
Sutherland in the area of contributions to charity, and noted that the proposed
design would blend with the center.
Ty Compton spoke representing the Chula Vista Chamber of Commerce. He favored
the McDonald's project and observed that their roof pitch could be of sublimi-
nal value to the corporation. He mentioned that the 5-member DRC vote with
two absent, one against and two for could be considered a minority report.
(Note: Only one member absent, 5th member not appointed at this time.)
Dick Chase, who lives in the general vicinity, expressed the opinion that of
the 6 out of 7 points resolved by McDonald's and staff/DRC, that would be a
very good average. He mentioned his children could spot a McDonald's roofline
from a distance.
The director of the Bonita Business and Professional Association, A1Monahan,
spoke for the Association. He told of their original concern about the
McDonald's in Bonita and how that concern turned out to be unfounded. He re-
lated that Mr. Sutherland was a small businessman with his own money at stake,
and opined that he deserved support from the Planning Commission.
Susan Jack, a member of the board of directors of the Bonita Business and Pro-
fessional Association in Bonita, advised that corporate image has great import-
ance and relates to the quality a business stands for. Further, she questioned
whether the applicant should be required to go with a less energy efficient
design.
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Gilbert Dreyfuss, a principal owner of the Canyon Plaza shopping center, spoke
in favor telling of his pleasure at seeing the last structure in the center
about to be built. He was in favor of McDonald's desire to keep their tradi-
tional roofline, but gave much credit to the City staff, the DRC and the
Planning Commission in their efforts to make Chula Vista an attractive area.
The public hearing was closed.
Assistant City Attorney Harron advised as to the proper form of a motion.
Commissioners Stevenson and Williams both made favorable comments regarding the
McDonald's proposal. Commissioner R. Johnson was of the opinion, however, that
diversity in shopping center design makes for an unattractive overall effect.
He said he felt the roofline question was a valid one.
MSC (O'Neill-Stevenson) The Con~nission recertifies EIR-74-3 (Canyon Plaza
Shopping Center and affirms that the information in the report has been con-
sidered in reaching a decision on this project.
The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioners Williams, Pressutti, O'Neill, Stevenson and R. Johnson
NOES: None
ABSTAINS: Commissioners G. Johnson and Green
MSC(O'Neill-Stevenson) Based on the revised findings as listed below and the
condition that the play equipment proposed for "McDonald Land" will be reviewed
with the Planning Department, the Planning Commission approves the request for
a freestanding restaurant at 500 block of Telegraph Canyon Road:
1. The general design and proportions used in building, primarily the
inclusions of light bars and the modified gambrel roof design, is
compatible with adjacent structures within the shopping center.
2. Variations in the roof detail are not substantial.
The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioners Williams, Pressutti, O'Neill, Stevenson
NOES: Commissioner R. Johnson
ABSTAINS: Commissioners G. Johnson and Green
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Principal Planner Lee requested that the Planning Commission workshop scheduled
for July 21 be canceled due to a conflict with EastLake hearings. To Commis-
sioner Stevenson's query regarding the legitimacy of the scaled-down version
of EastLake to go before the Council versus the full version approved by the
Planning Commission, Mr. Lee replied that it was still the same project but
with emphasis on the west end, with the basic land uses remaining unchanged.
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COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neill furnished Mr. Lee with a report he had recently received
from Congressman Duncan Hunter's office regarding the Congressional Conference
on Housing held in San Diego this past January. Mr. O'Neill related it con-
tained many recommendations for achieving affordable housing.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Pressutti adjourned the meeting at 8:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Teresa Schroeder, Acting Secretary