HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1980/02/27 MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
February 27, 1980
A regular business meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista,
California was held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. with the
following members present: Smith, Pressutti, G. Johnson, R. Johnson,
O'Neill, Stevenson and Williams. Also present: Director of Planning Peterson,
Current Planning Supervisor Lee, Senior Civil Engineer Daoust, Environmental
Review Coordinator Reid, Assistant City Attorney Harron, and Secretary Mapes.
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chairman Smith, followed by
a moment of silent prayer.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner O'Neill requested that on page 6 in the fourth paragraph under
agenda item 4, his comments include the additional statement that, "While
mitigation of the cumulative impacts on water quality is within the responsibility
and jurisdiction of other public agencies, the Planning Commission would recommend
specific mitigating measures at such times as the EIR~s are prepared on specific
projects."
Chairman Smith added that in discussion of the same item concerning EIR-80-1,
he had commented that he thought the environmental impact report was deficient
in that it did not consider the economic problems caused by limiting the develop-
ment as proposed in the policies. He requested that such a statement be included
in the minutes.
Chairman Smith also pointed out that on page 8 the motion to adopt a resolution
approving the phased growth policies did not show the vote, which was:
AYES: Commissioners Pressutti, G. Johnson, R. Johnson, O'Neill and Williams
NOES: Commissioners Smith and Stevenson
ABSENT: None
MSUC (G. Johnson-Stevenson) The minutes of the meeting of February 13, 1980 be
approved with the corrections as requested by Commissioner O'Neill and Smith.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Smith called for oral communications and none were presented.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: PCS-80-11 - Consideration of tentative subdivision map for
Chula Vista Tract 80-11, Vista Arizona, Chris Galichon
Director of Planning Peterson reported this is a proposal for a 12 unit condominium
on one lot which contains just over 18,000 square feet. The property is located on
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the south side of Arizona Street approximately 250 feet east of Broadway, and
is presently developed with two small, older single family homes. Last summer
a similar condominium development was approved for the adjacent property to the
east. As stated in the staff report the proposed development meets all provisions
of the ordinance, including usable open space, storage space, offstreet parking
and yard requirements. The design of the project was approved by the Design
Review Committee and approval of the tentative map is recommended subject to
eight conditions listed in the staff report.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Chris Galichon, 3617 Bonita Verde Drive, the applicant, advised that he felt
all of the conditions listed in the report are quite reasonable with the exception
of condition "e" which would make the developer responsible for the construction
of the north half of the drainage channel adjacent to the property. He pointed
out that channel cannot be constructed at the present time since it has not been
designed. He further felt that the alternative of requesting a deferral and
posting a bond to cover the cost of the construction at a later date is not
equitable since the amount of the bond or the length of time it would be required
has not been determined. He felt that his property should be treated the same
as other adjacent properties which have not been made responsible for the cost
of improving a portion of the channel. He suggested that it would be fairer to
all involved to establish a 1911 Act to pay for the channel improvements over a
long term.
In response to a question from Chairman Smith, Director of Planning Peterson
affirmed that the adjoining condominium development was not required to contribute
to the cost of channel improvements since it was approved before the City had
knowledge of the proposed improvement. He advised that it is a normal and fair
obligation to require a developer to make such improvements, and the courts
have upheld that requirement.
Mr. Galichon pointed out it would be difficult to get a bonding company to provide
a bond under the present conditions of uncertainty of the length of time or the
ultimate cost of the improvement. He also expressed his understanding that the
Corps of Engineers may install this channel improvement. He expressed a willing-
ness to include in his sales contract a notice that the condominium owners may
be assessed for a share of the improvement costs. Mr. Galichon further commented
on the inequity of including an unknown figure to cover this expense in the cost
of the units which he proposes to build and sell in the low $50,000 range. Under
a 1911 Act this cost could be paid by the owners over a longer period of time.
In response to questions from the Commission, Senior Civil Engineer Daoust advised
that if the Corps of Engineers proceeds with the improvement of the channel
it will be only partly funded by that agency and the remainder of the cost will
have to be paid by the City.
As no one else wished to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner O'Neill expressed the opinion that this developer should be treated
the same as other property owners along channel. Chairman Smith suggested that
could be accomplished by deleting condition "e" as recommended in the staff report.
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Commissioner Williams pointed out that developers are normally required to contri-
bute to the cost of offsite improvements and he believes the Commission should
continue with what is a standard. He felt, however, this developer should be
given a time when he would have specific information on what is required.
Commissioner O'Neill pointed out that a similar project approved a few months
ago adjacent to this site was not required to pay for the cost of such improvments.
MSUC (O'Neill-Williams) The Commission finds that in accordance with the findings
listed in the Negative Declaration of IS-78-83, this project will have no signifi-
cant environmental impact.
MS (O'Neill-Stevenson) Based on the findings stated in the staff report, the
Commission recommends that the City Council approve the tentative subdivision map
for Vista Arizona, Chula Vista Tract 80-11, subject to 7 conditions listed in the
staff report and with the deletion of condition "e".
Commissioner Pressutti expressed support of Commissioner Williams' point of view
and asked if the maker and second of the motion would be willing to include
condition "e" with an added statement that the dollar amount and conditions of
the bonding be established prior to the final map being approved.
Commissioner O'Neill indicated he wished the motion to stand.
MS (Williams-G. Johnson) The motion for approval of the tentative subdivision
map for Vista Arizona be amended to include the condition contained in paragraph
"e" with the addition of a sentence that, "Specifics of the bond shall be
determined prior to consideration of the final map."
The motion for amendment carried by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioners Williams, G. Johnson, R. Johnson and Pressutti
NOES: Commissioners O'Neill, Stevenson and Smith
ABSENT: None
The original motion as amended carried by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioners O'Neill, Williams, G. Johnson, R. Johnson and Pressutti
NOES: Commissioners Stevenson and Smith
ABSENT: None
2. Consideration of supplement to EIR-79-8 on Rice Canson Sectional Planning Area
Environmental Review Coordinator Reid advised that this is not actually a
supplement to EIR-79-8, but is the consideration of candidate CEQA findings for
the project relative to the environmental impact report on the project. It
relates directly to the three items which follow on the agenda.
Mr. Reid advised that the recommendation as contained in the staff report on the
development plan for the Rice Canyon Sectional Planning Area will be modified to
recommend that action on the item be continued to the next Planning Commission to
be concurrent with action on the proposed tentative subdivision map. For that
reason it is also appropriate to delay adoption of the CEQA findings until the
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same meeting. He concurred it would be appropriate to discuss the candidate
findings at this time and refer any information or questions raised back to the
consultant who prepared the environmental impact report and CEQA findings.
Chairman Smith pointed out that on page 7 under Section 4 on "Drainage" it
indicates that the anticipated flow of water in a 50 year flood will be greater
than the culverts beneath the 1-805/East H Street interchange are designed to
handle.
Mr. Smith suggested that a statement be added to that section to the effect that:
"The drainage may be in excess of the capacity of the existing pair of 84" pipes.
This may cause water to back up through the inlets until there is a sufficient
head to force the 84" culverts to carry the water. This problem shall be addressed
by the design engineer."
Mr. Reid advised that the condition described by Mr. Smith would not be acceptable
to the city and the project will have to be designed to mitigate that impact.
Director of Planning Peterson advised he would not object to having the statement
suggested by Commissioner Smith in the report if it is understood that it is an
impact that would not be acceptable to the city and the design of the project
must include some mitigating measure so that flood water would not back up as
described.
Commissioner Williams suggested that greater specificity in terms of the plan is
required to show that the problems are being adequately met in the engineering
and design of the project.
Commissioner R. Johnson asked why the report contains the figures for a 50 year flood
when some projects have been required to meet 100 year flood conditions.
Mr. Reid advised it relates to the size of the drainage basin. In a major drainage
basin, such as Sweetwater Valley or Telegraph Canyon, the difference would be
significant, but in the smaller areas, like Rice Canyon, the difference in total
runoff is not too great.
Commissioner O'Neill suggested this area may be similar to Long Canyon where there
have been considerable problems of flooding as a result of grading. He pointed
out this project is proposed to be graded all at once, while the building will
take place over five years so there is an erosion potential that is really
significant during that time.
The Commission discussed the problem of siltation which presently exists in the
channel below the culverts underneath "H" Street.
Mr. Reid advised that the thrust of the Planning Department from the ~nitial
subdivision conference with the developer has been that the large manufactured
slopes must be permanently landscaped, in accordance with current City Code
requirements, and other areas would be hydro-seeded and temporarily irrigated
or whatever is necessary to prevent erosion. Where appropriate, siltation basins
will be placed so that silt would be collected before it is deposited downstream.
Commissioner O'Neill raised a question as to the responsibility of the City
with regard to water quality, air quality, schools and sewage, where another
jurisdiction has the prime responsibility.
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Mr. Reid advised it is the City's responsibility to identify the possible impacts
and point those out to the responsible agencies, send them an E.I.R., which
implies a request from them for anything the City can do to lessen the impact.
Commissioner O'Neill felt the recommended action does not do that, but merely
states it is the problem of other public agencies.
Mr. Reid explained that when a draft EIR is sent out to other agencies, comments
are requested from them. If there is no comment it is an indication that they
are happy with the EIR and the mitigation and conditions proposed for the project.
Chairman Smith call ed attention to page 16 of the candidate findings, where it
states, "Several measures are recommended to reduce the brush fire hazards.
Greenbelts should be maintained along the perimeter of developed areas and internal
roadways." He pointed out that greenbelts require maintenance and irrigation
which can be quite costly. He asked if a representative of the Fire Department
could suggest a better word than greenbelts.
Ted Monsell, Chula Vista Fire Marshall, advised that the greenbelt terminology
is fairly common to describe the fire retardant type of growth planted in these
areas and normally is associated with an automatic watering system to maintain
the greenness. The water is then available from the system in the event of a
fire.
Mr. Smith commented he would like to see that changed to something like firebreak,
made any way it can be made.
Chairman Smith noted that if there is no further discussion, it is recommended
that action to adopt the findings be delayed until the project is considered at
the next meeting.
MSUC (O'Neill-Stevenson) The Commission defers action on the candidate CEQA
findings until the meeting of March 19, 1980.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: PCZ-80-C - Consideration of zoning approximately 3 acres
of unzoned freewas right-of-waS at the southeast corner of
1-805 and East "H" Street to P-C, Cits initiated
Current Planning Supervisor Lee reported that the developers have been negotiating
with the California Department of Transportation for the acquisition of this
property. The site has been included in their development plans, which include
filling the area to the level of "H" Street. It is proposed to use the southerly
one acre of the site for a park and ride facility by Cal Trans and the remainder
of the property would be incorporated into a proposed commercial development for
an automobile sales facility. It is recommended that the property be zoned P-C
to conform with the zoning of the adjacent property.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened. As
no one wished to speak on this item, the public hearing was closed.
MSUC (R. Johnson-Stevenson) The Commission recommends that the City Council zone
the three acre parcel P-C.
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4. PUBLIC HEARING: PCM-80-13 - Consideration of development plan for the
Rice Canson Sectional Plannin~ Area of E1 Rancho del ReS
Specific Plan, Watt ~ndustries
5. PUBLIC HEARING: PCS-80-15 - Consideration of tentative subdivision map for
Chula Vista Tract 80-13, Hidden Vista Village, Watt Industries
Director of Planning Peterson noted this is one of the first Sectional Planning
Area (SPA) plans for the implementation of the E1 Rancho del Rey Specific Plan to
be considered by the Planning Commission. All details of the plan are not complete
at this time and will later be submitted for consideration and approval. He
advised that a SPA plan is supposed to be an intermediate plan between the Specific
Plan and a tentative map. In this case the applicant has submitted the tentative
map for the residential development along with the SPA plan, so there is more
detail on the development than would normally be available with a Sectional Planning
Area plan. Missing from the SPA plan are the building elevations for the shopping
center; and although a site plan was submitted for the commercial development, it
is being revised, and will be submitted later for consideration. The submitted
plans also did not include any detail for the Section 8 housing area and that will
be presented later, as well as building elevations for the commercial recreation
portion and site plans for the automobile dealership.
Mr. Peterson pointed out that while portions of the development will encroach into
areas designated as open space on the adopted Specific Plan, the overall open space
shown on the SPA plan is about the same. The second major issue deals with the
fact that this development is proposing more dwelling units than shown on the
adopted plan. That is because the plan has less commercial footage than allowed
on the Specific Plan, which allows for the substitution of multiple family develop-
ment in place of commercial development, at up to 18 units per acre density.
The third issue relates to the alteration of land form that will be required for
the extension of "H" Street and to accommodate a shopping center of 150,000
square feet of building area.
Fourth is the question of whether "H" Street should be extended easterly of
the boundaries of this project to connect with Paseo del Rey.
These issues are discussed in the written staff report, which includes a
recommendation for action to be taken on this item. Mr. Peterson advised he
has since decided it would be best to delay action on the SPA plan to the meeting
when action will be taken on the tentative subdivision map. He therefore recom-
mended that testimony on both the SPA plan and the tentative map be taken at this
meeting and both items be continued to the meeting of March 19.
Current Planning Supervisor Lee displayed a plat of the tentative map and pointed
out that the north end of the site will be devoted to 329 single family dwellings
with lots varying from 6,000 sq. ft. to 18,000 sq. ft. The area directly below
and south of the single family area, lying adjacent to the north side of "H"
Street, will be devoted to condominium development containing 498 units. On the
south side of "H" Street there is a 140 unit condominium project. There are two
major open space lots in the project containing 125 acres, located primarily along
the south and east boundaries of the project. There is additional open space
with the extension of the lot lines for the elementary school, junior high school
and park site at the northerly end of the project. There is a total of 180 to
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185 acres of natural open space within the development. In addition, there is
a 30,000 sq. ft. site set aside for a fire station, a one acre park-and-ride
facility adjacent to 1-805 and an automobile sales lot in the same vicinity.
The plan includes a 3 acre commercial recreation area, and a 20 acre commercial
site which will be devoted to retail store, offices, a theater, and the
required parking area. An 11 acre site adjacent to the retail commercial area
is proposed for residential development to serve senior citizens and low income
families.
Mr. Lee explained the circulation system within the development, which includes
"H" Street developed with six lanes and with the ability to widen it to eight
lanes within the critical area along the commercial development. Sidewalks
are proposed only on the south side of "H" Street, to encourage pedestrians to
cross at the signalized intersections. Ridgeback Road will connect to "H" Street
and lead to the north and east to serve future development along the ridge. This
will be a four lane road with a bike lane on each side.
The condominium units will be served by a private street system consisting of
a series of loop streets and short cul-de-sacs.
The project also provides for two streets to connect with existing streets to the
north; one will be just east of the present water tank and provide access to a
future area of development in the county. There is also a connection proposed
to Lynwood Drive directly south of the existing residential development. Both
the Fire Department and Police Department have indicated a desire to have this
connection.
A communication has been received from the County Planning Department indicating
substantial improvements would be required on Lynwood Drive based on this connection.
The City staff does not concur with those requirements since information in the
environmental impact report indicates a limited number of trips would utilize
Lynwood Drive from this development. It is felt, however, this is an essential
link in the circulation pattern for future use when the fire station is relocated
to this area.
An equestrian trail is shown on the plan for a north/south route following the
water pipeline owned by the City of San Diego. In addition, the Sweetwater
equestrian group has asked for an east/west trail.
Mr. Lee noted the project will include massive grading, with the movement of
3~ to 4½ million cubic yards. The shopping area will be raised some fifty feet
in certain areas above the present floor level of Rice Canyon. However, nearly
half of the entire area will remain in its natural state. This is in compliance
with the Sectional Area Plan.
Both school districts have been contacted in an attempt to resolve the issue of
school sites. Both are continuing to negotiate with the developer, who has
offered two ungraded school sites to the districts.
Mr. Lee showed numerous slides depicting the site plans, landscaping and proposed
elevations of the multiple family development. The Commission raised questions
concerning some of the information shown, which were answered by Mr. Lee.
Chairman Smith asked about the bike lanes on each side of "H" Street. Mr. Lee
advised that the outside lane will be 16 feet wide which will be shared by bikes
and autos.
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A short recess was taken at 9:00 p.m. and the meeting reconvened at 9:12 p.m.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mary Augustine, 3608 Valley Vista Road, trail coordinator for Bonita Valley
Horsemen and also for San Diego County Trails Council, reported that she has
been working with the engineers on this project and they have come up with a
suitable trails plan for the open space area. She expressed the thought that
there will probably be 20 walkers and joggers for each horse on the trails.
They are attempting to set up a suitable trail system to serve the residents
of the area in that regard.
Gilbert Dreyfuss, 333 South Hope Street, Los Angeles, reported that he is one
of the owners of a 16 acre parcel immediately southeast of the proposed condo-
minimum development. This property is the remnant from former development in
the Halescrest area. He expressed the hope that with the extention of "H" Street
that his property would be afforded access, so that it might be put to some use.
He suggested that such access could either be provided through the Watt property
presently under consideration, or through property under the ownership of the
Gersten Companies.
Mr. Lee advised it would create less of a problem for access to be taken through the
Gersten property which is designated as open space, than through the condominium
development proposed on the Watt property.
Raymond Spencer, 3314 Lynwood Drive, reported that the residents of Lynwood
Hills understand that the area adjacent to their homes will be developed, but
they ask that the development be compatible with the topography. He suggested
the use of split level designs to lessen the amount of grading required. He
felt that cut banks could be affected by the existing septic tanks and leach
lines. He also expressed concern about the street to connect with Lynwood Drive
and asked that no more than 100 units be approved to use Lynwood Drive until
East "H" Street is extended. He also suggested that the open space in the
project be broken into smaller areas scattered throughout the area.
Niek Slijk, 4450 Vista Nacion, advised that he owns one of the six properties
adjacent to the cut slope. He supports the proposal to cut the slope so the
houses will be at a lower elevation and will not obstruct his view. He also
welcomed the provision of sewer lines to the edge of the Lynwood Hills as he
felt septic tanks can only serve an area for a limited length of time.
Eugene Coleman 1670 Gotham Street, spoke of flooding problems which have long
existed on Bonita Road due to runoff from the Rice Canyon area, and on the extreme
problem of siltation in the channel adjacent to the freeway. He questioned the
effectiveness of sedimentation basins and who will maintain them. He also
expressed strong reservations concerning the availability of an increased
supply of water to serve future development.
Randall Case, 4324 Lynwood Drive, read a letter from Thomas A. Demere, paleontol-
ogist at the Natural History Museum, which expressed concern over the existence
of fossilized remains of marine life throughout the San Diego Formation which
underlies this area, and suggested that a paleontological monitor be assigned
to periodically check cuts for exposed fossils. He also read a letter from
William Link, retired principal of Allen School in Bonita, which endorsed the
opinions expressed in Mr. Demere's letter.
J. L. White, 4368 Lynwood Drive, advised that his two points of concern are:
No. I, the type of dwelling units that will be contiguous to his property in
Lynwood Hills. He had been assured the new homes would be compatible with the
Lynwood Hills residences. He felt this would not be the case since the lots
will be much smaller than the one acre and 3/4 acre home sites in Lynwood Hills.
The second point of concern is with the County Department of Transportation's
recommendation for connection of "C" Street to Lynwood Drive, which would be
adjacent to his residence. While he felt the County's recommendation for
improvements to Lynwood Drive would be necessary to handle the increase in
traffic, the installation of those improvements would have a drastic effect
on the existing home sites, which in some cases would be cut in half to provide
additional street width. He suggested that other alternatives for traffic
circulation be considered in place of an egress on to Lynwood Drive.
Harlan Skinner, 4234 Lynwood Drive, concurred with Mr. White's objection to the
connection with Lynwood Drive. He contended that if the connection is made the
traffic will be very heavy as the residents wish to go down to the Bonita area.
He also questioned the availability of sufficient water in the future and of
school facilities.
Gary McCabe, 1231 Alpine Estates Place, Alpine, representing Watt Industries,
advised that they have been working with the staff on this project for two years
and their proposal implements the Specific Plan for Rice Canyon, approved by
the Planning Commission and City Council. He pointed out the conformance of their
plan in the areas of open space, circulation pattern, density, and type of develop-
ment. He assured that through proper engineering design the drainage can be
taken care of in underground pipes. He further noted this development will
implement the west to east policy for development. He expressed the opinion
that their responsibility for public improvements should terminate at their
easterly boundary, and if further development takes place to the east, "H" Street
should be extended at that time. He also addressed the various concerns voiced
by the residents of the area concerning grading, erosion and traffic. He spoke of
their efforts and desire to work with the school districts to provide the sites
they will need.
Chairman Smith noted the recommendation by the Director of Planning that both
agenda items 4 and 5 be continued to the meeting of March 19 and asked if the
public hearing should remain open. Mr. Peterson felt that additional testimony
and comments should be permitted at the March 19th meeting. He noted that copies
of the staff report will be available on Friday, March 14th for anyone who might
be interested.
MSUC (Pressutti-R. Johnson) The public hearings to consider the development plan
for the Rice Canyon Sectional Planning Area and the tentative subdivision map for
Hidden Vista Village be continued to the meeting of March 19, 1980.
6. Consideration of amendment to the Municipal Code makin~ stock cooperatives
and community apartment projects subject to the same
provisions as condominiums
Director of Planning Peterson advised that the State Subdivision Map Act was
recently amended to require stock cooperatives to go through the subdivision map
procedure the same as condominium projects. In line with that the City Council
adopted an urgency ordinance on January 15, 1980, which became effective immediately
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and required stock cooperatives to be treated as condominiums. The Council then
referred the ordinance to the Planning Commission for consideration of adopting
a permanent amendment to the Municipal Code. As these regulations do not fall
within the zoning ordinance section of the code, a publ$c hearing is not required.
MSUC (R. Johnson-Stevenson) The Planning Commission recommends that the City
Council enact the provisions of the urgency ordinance, No. 1890, as an amendment
to the Municipal Code.
DIRECTOR'S CODE
Director of Planning Peterson reminded the Commission that the meeting normally
scheduled for March 12th was cancelled, so the next regular business meeting
will be on March 19.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neill commented that he read recently in the City Council minutes
an item in reference to the Tiburon case in which the California Supreme Court
held that the city is not liable on inverse condemnation suit resulting from
the downzoning of property. He suggested that such items would be of interest
to the Planning Commission at either a regular meeting or study session.
Chairman Smith called attention to a notice of a hearing before the Unified Port
District to consider their revised master plan, to be held at 2:00 p.m. on
March 11. He suggested that copies of the hearing notice be given to each
of the Commissioners.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Smith adjourned the meeting at 10:32 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,