HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1988/01/13 Tape No :286
Side 1 : 0-1055
MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
7:00 p.m. Council Chambers
Wednesday, January 13, 1988 Public Services Building
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PPESENT: Chairman Carson,Commissioners Cannon, Casillas,
Fuller, Grasser, Shipe and Tugenberg
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Planning Krempl, Principal Planner
Lee, Deputy City Attorney Moore, Senior Civil
Engineer Daoust, Associate Planner Griffin,
Senior Animal Control Officer Will and Director
of Public Safety Winters
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - SILENT PRAYER
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chairman Carson and was
followed by a moment of silent prayer.
I~TRODUCTO~Y REMARKS
Chairman Carson reviewed the composition of the Planning Commission, its
responsibilities and the format of the meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC (Fuller/Casillas) to approve the minutes of the meeting of Movember 4,
1987, as mailed.
ORAL COMMU)!ICATIONS
None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
NATIONAL AVE)IUE ASSOCIATE'S LETTER REGARDING A ZONI)!G ORDINANCE AMENDMENT
REGARDING THE BAYFRONT SPECIFIC PLAN LAND USE REGULATIONS
Associate Planner Griffin stated that a letter had been submitted by National
Avenue Associates requesting the City consider a zoning text amendment and an
Planning Commission Minutes 2- January 13, 1988
amendment to the Local Coastal Plan to allow a new car dealership and
accessory uses for the Limited-Industrial property between Broadway and Fifth
Avenue south of State Route 54. Staff believes the proposal has merit and
recommends the Commission refer the matter to staff for a report and
recommendation. Considerations include the large acreage (30 acres) involved,
the relationship to the freeway, the extension of National City land uses and
related uses already permitted in the I-L zone. It is believed that a report
and recommendation can be returned to the Commission in approximately a month.
~ISUC (Tugenberg/Shipe) to refer to staff for a study and recommendation to be
returned to the Commission at 4 later date.
1. PUBLIC HEA£ING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PCC-88-24 REQUEST TO EXPAND
VISTA HILL HOSPITAL AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MEDICAL
CENTER DRIVE AND MEDICAL CFNTER COURT VISTA HILL
FOUNDATION
Associate Planner Griffin indicated that the item is a request to expand the
Vista Hill Hospital to include a 30-bed, 10,724 square foot, two-story
residential treatment center; a 35-bed, 11,936 square foot, two-story chemical
dependency unit; two single-story classroom buildings containing 1,296 square
feet and 1,221 square feet respectively; and 167 on-site parking spaces.
Mr. Griffin outlined the three phases needed for completion of the project;
pointed out that Medical Center Drive represents a natural boundary for the
medical complex to the west and the potential for further expansion to the
south; the project would be subject to review and approval of the Design
Review Committee; is consistent with the balance of the medical complex; is in
compliance with the General Plan and incorporates a Facilities Benefit
District for construction of needed off-site improvements.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was
opened. No one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
~ISUC (Tugenberg/Cannon) to find this project will have no significant
environmental impacts and adopt the Negative Declaration issued on IS-88-37.
MSUC(Tugenberg/Cannon) that based on findings centained in Section "E" of the
staff report, to recommend that the City Council approve the request,
PCC-88-74, to expand the Vista Hill Hospital at the southeast corner of
Medical Center Drive and Medical Center Court subject to the conditions
contained in the staff report.
2. PUBLIC HEAPING: PCM-88-15 CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO
CHAPTERS 6.04 AND 6.08 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING
TO TNE NUMBER OF DOGS AND CATS PERMITTED ON R-l, R-2,
R-3 AND PC ZONED LOTS
Associate Planner Griffin noted that the item is in response to a request from
Planning Commission Minutes 3- January 13, 1988
Ms. Patricia Bodi, dated September, 1987, for an amendment to the Municipal
Code to provide flexibility in the number of animals permitted on an R-1 lot.
Currently, three dogs and three cats per lot are permitted in the R-1 zone
regardless of site circumstances; two dogs and two cats are permitted in the
~-3 zone; and no provision is made for the R-2 and PC zones. The amendment is
sought to provide a consistent policy throughout all the zones.
Staff recommends that exceptions to the present requirements be permitted by
the Senior Animal Control Officer if it is determined that such factors as
larger lot size and increased separation from adjoining homes will mitigate
any adverse effects of a greater number of animals. This decision may be
appealed to Council upon payment of a stipulated fee.
Questions and concerns voiced by the Commission included:
(a) If 7,000 square feet is the size of the typical R-1 lot, are there
special conditions proposed for the single lots with 3,500 square
feet (in the P-C zones in EastLake or Chula Vista Woods) or will the
Senior Animal Control Office have the option of limiting the number
of animals allowed?
(b) Since more 6,000 and 5,000 square foot lots are being being developed
in R-2 areas, perhaps the problem should be approached on the square
footage involved rather than the zoning.
(c) Is the species or the number of the animals being considered? Is six
the ultimate number of animals allowed regardless of whether they are
dogs or cats?
(d) Should the size of the dogs be a factor, particularly with reference
to sanitation, odor and noise?
(e) What is the reason for amending the ordinance?
Staff replied that:
{a) The 3,500 square foot lot presently is allowed the same number of
animals as the 7,000 square foot lot.
(c) The current reading limits the number of animals to not more than
three dogs and three cats and (d) size is not a factor.
(e) This ordinance change would allow some discretion in those cases
where clearly there is no impact on any adjoining resident, noise,
odor or any other adverse circumstance, to allow an increase beyond
the maximum specified at the discretion of the Senior Animal Control
Officer. The real intent of the regulation is to preclude commercial
kennels and their operation in the residential zones.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
- Planning Commission Minutes 4- January 13, 1988
Senior Animal Control Officer Bill Will suggested that if the ordinance were
to be changed to accommodate a kennel in the City, it be allowed only on lot
sizes of 20,000 square feet - the same size as is required to keep a horse in
the City limits; that the 3,500 square foot R-1 lots be limited to the same as
multi-family residences; namely, two dogs and two cats.
In reply to whether he wanted more discretion in the enforcement of the
ordinance based on the circumstances involved, or if he wanted the wording to
be more restrictive in nature, Officer Will said he would like more discretion.
Commissioner Casillas suggested that if Officer Will wrote up a summary of the
problem with some recommendations, he include some experiences in terms of
the weight of the dogs and related factors to clarify the issue. The
Commissioner said he was thinking of what could happen in an R-3 zone with a
2-bedroom home, a very small yard and of the problems posed for both the
property owners and the neighbors.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Grasser pointed out that staff had suggested that lots less than
7,000 sqt~are feet be categorized in Section B of Section 6.04.030. She noted
that would solve the problem; however, discrimination between dog sizes would
only aggravate the situation.
MS (Tugenberg/Shipe) to continue the item until such time as staff could
supply more definitive solutions.
Commissioner Cannon suggested that staff come up with some solutions based
along the line of the Commission's suggestions.
Associate Planner Griffin noted that the item could be brought back to the
Commission by the meeting of February 10, 1988.
AMENDED MOTION:
MSUC (Tugenberg/Shipe) to continue this item until the meeting of February 20,
1988.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
a. INTERPRETATION OF TWO-CAR GARAGE REQUIREMENT - FRED DREW
Associate Planner Griffin advised that Mr. Drew applied to the Zoning
Administrator for a conditional use permit to add a second single-family
dwelling to the R-1 lot at 1275 Banner through the dwelling-group provision of
the )lunicipal Code. The dwelling-group provision provides that if the R-1 lot
size is twice as large as the minimum required (7,000 sq. ft.), a second
dwelling can be added. Mr. Drew was informed that a new two-car garage for
both the new dwelling as well as the existing dwelling would be required per
Section 19.22.170 of the Municipal Code. Mr. Drew disagreed with the
Planning Commission Minutes 5- January 13, 1988
interpretation by staff and the City Attorney's Office and requested an
interpretation by the Planning Commission. As the Section in question does
not specifically address the application of that standard to "dwelling groups"
but to additions to dwellings in general, it is appropriate for the Commission
to express what their intent was in recommending the adoption of this
provision originally. This is not a public hearing and there is no actual
amendment to the Code before the Commission.
In reply to Commissioner Cannon's query as to what action would transpire if
the Commission were to be in agreement with Mr. Drew, Associate Planner
Griffin said that staff would forward the Commission's recommendation along
with the question to the City Council. If it was then agreed that the intent
was to exclude dwelling groups from that provision, that would become the
policy of the City and an ordinance amendment would be presented for
clarification.
Questions asked by the Commission included: (a) the size of the lot? Answer:
14,000 to 15,000 square feet; and (b) was there a consideration in the
Montgomery Specific Plan of Banner Street being opened to Orange Avenue? Mr.
Krempl stated that there had been discussion of that possibility as something
to be studied, however, the issue was not relevant to the night's discussion.
Director Krempl pointed out that based on the Municipal Code a second dwelling
unit should not be authorized for an R-1 property unless the existing dwelling
can be brought into conformance with present parking standards if feasible.
In the issue under consideration, a second dwelling was being moved on posing
a two-part question: (1) Whether the move-on dwelling necessitates a two-car
garage and it is staff's opinion that it does; and (2) whether intensifying
the utilization of the property is analogous to a remodel or expansion thereby
requiring the original dwelling to have a two-car garage also. In answer to a
question, Director Krempl replied that Mr. Drew had submitted an application
proposing raising the move-on dwelling and putting the four garages
underneath; however, he is still requesting an interpretation of the garage
requirement from the Commission.
Deputy City Attorney Moore indicated she had researched the ordinance and is
convinced that when a person develops a "dwelling group unit", he must comply
with th~ zoning code which requires there be a garage. The question becomes
what was the specific intent of the Planning Commission at the time of the
passage of ordinance. Namely, whether or not the original building would need
an additional two-car garage as well as the added-on dwelling unit. She
expressed concern regarding Mr. Drew addressing the Commission about his
specific situation on the grounds that the item might return to the Commission
at a later date in the form of an appeal of the CUP application. Attorney
Moore suggested that if the Planning Commission had not fully considered this
aspect when the ordinance was passed, perhaps a motion could be made to direct
staff to provide an amendment to the ordinance that would clarify the
situation. In response to an inquiry from the Chair, the attorney said Mr.
Drew might address the Commission but not about specifics of his particular
situation, the lot size where the buildings would be located and his problems
with that.
Planning Commission Minutes 6- January 13, 1988
Commissioner Fuller questioned why then had the Commission been provided such
information in the packet. The Attorney replied that Mr. Drew had the right
to send letters to the Commission and did this to express his concerns about
the interpretation of the ordinance. She pointed out that the Commission
cannot make a decision that relates specifically to Mr. Drew's situation.
Commissioner Cannon agreed with the Attorney's interpretation. He noted the
ambiguity would need to be addressed at a later date and that the action
tonight was not a public hearing.
Fred Drew submitted that there wasn't any original building permit with the
City of Chula Vista as the home had been built when the land was
unincorporated. The people had been promised if they incorporated they would
be allowed whatever was safe, and that the City would help improve their
homes. He had his home annexed and it was the only R-1 area. He has never
had a garage and would never use it for parking purposes if he did have it.
He was agreeable (reluctantly) to build the required two-car garage for the
move-on property but there was ample paved space for family and guest car
parking and he desired lawn and play space rather than four empty garages. He
wished to provide living quarters for his presently hospitalized father and
for his son's family. Pe outlined the difficulties he had in meeting the
requirements of various departments; pointed out that the cross-hatched
property had been part of his property at one time and had been ceded to form
Banner Street; that when Orange Avenue was constructed, the Board of
Supervisors had returned the property to him but not before SDG&E ran wires
right through the center of the property which prevents him from building. In
addition, he is being told that he must dedicate a portion of the other edge
of the property to widen Orange Avenue which is an impossibility because of
the location of other houses in the area.
Opinions offered by the Commissioners included:
Commissioner Cannon declared that, in his opinion, four garages on a small lot
the size of Mr. Drew's is overkill; he knew of no R-1 lot in the City that has
four garages; the usual circumstance in the City is at least a one-car garage
per lot; he believed in bringing most buildings up to Code but forcing the
addition of a two-car garage for a house that doesn't have one doesn't make
sense; he did not believe that was the intention when the ordinance was
passed; he did not think he voted for that anyway as he was against changing
the original ordinance on other houses on the back lots.
Commissioner Tugenberg said he did not believe he had been on the Commission
at the time the ordinance was brought forward; he felt the property should be
brought up to Code; the law says there must be a garage but does not stipulate
how it must be used so some accommodation could be made so that Mr. Drew's
children could utilize the garages in some other fashion than parking a car
Discussion ensued about the "granny flats" ordinance, its requirements
regarding garages; that under State Law some provision must be if an
application for a "granny flat" was made; and that the ruling from the
Attorney's office at that time indicated that as long as the City had the
Planning Commission Minutes 7- January 13, 1988
dwelling group provision, the State's requirements were satisfied; and that in
staff's interpretation a two -car garage is required for the two separate
dwelling units under one ownership. Also discussed were garage conversions
and replacement garages.
Commissioner Carson stated that there should be a garage on the property but
two two -car garages seems like overkill.
Commissioner Fuller questioned the need to amend the ordinance to resolve this
problem asking if there were no way within the confines of the ordinance to
take exception based on individual circumstances.
The Deputy Attorney replied that staff could return with an amendment to
clarify the ordinance, or the applicant could apply for a variance from the
current ordinance and the matter would come before the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Cannon then asked if an application for a variance was not
dependent upon whether the interpretation of the ordinance was "yes" or "no";
and that he did not feel adequate to make a determination as to how the
ordinance should be worded and would need to rely on what the City Attorney
would submit regarding the interpretation and indicating the ordinance wording
in its entirety.
Deputy City Attorney Moore said she could return with a memo taking into
consideration the original intent and that this situation highlights the fact
that there may be problems in the wording. She indicated she could return at
the next meeting with the memo and would provide Mr. Drew with material ahead
of time.
MSUC (Cannon /Grasser) to continue the item to the meeting of February 27, 1988
for further staff input.
3. (b) BOARDS /COMMISSIONS /COMMITTEES ABSENTEEISM LETTER
Director of Planning Krempl stated that the City Clerk had drafted up for
policy consideration by the Council some guidelines on attendance for members
of the City's Boards, Commissions and Committees (B /C /C). Council directed
that this be presented to all bodies for input.
The Commissioners indicated that absenteeism had been a problem several years
ago when one Commissioner had been absent in excess of 50 percent. They also
discussed that during 1987, there had been a number of times that no quorum
was available (although part of the problem was caused by a seat vacancy);
however, developers had been obliged to return several times. The Commission
noted the financial burden placed on developers who bring several staff
members to the meeting or fly representatives in from other areas and then
must return because of lack of a quorum. Also to be considered was the waste
of staff time and effort.
Planning Commission Minutes 8- January 13, 1988
Commissioner Casillas indicated that the 75 percent attendance requirement
might not suffice and that as the Council had been the appointing agent, the
Council should admonish the offending members regarding their responsibility
for attendance.
Commissiuner Carson stated she was in favor of the 75 percent attendance
requirement but that workshops should not be counted because of
employment/responsibility conflicts.
Commissioner Tugenberg said he would make the rule even more stringent,
although he considered workshops to be of less importance than business
meetings; it was his opinion that there should be no excuse except illness in
the family or vacation and that anything over four absences is excessive. He
remarked on the unfairness to applicants making a presentation since even if a
quorum votes 3-2, it is a "no" vote.
Commissioner Cannon commented that some indication should be made as to what
is thought to be "in-conformance" for other bodies. It is his understanding
that attendance in some of the B/C/C's is terrible. A 75 percent attendance
requirement including the workshops seems reasonable to him. He would prefer
some discretion by Council regarding the type of excuse being used. Failure
to attend might call for a review by Council automatically. He agreed that if
a person is unable to make that many meetings, the member should relinquish
the seat.
Commissioner Fuller agreed with a 75 percent attendance requirement, including
the workshops, because they are designed to augment the meetings. She also
agreed that Council should use some discretion about what they consider an
excuse. She asked if the Planning Commission were unique in having regular
business meetings and regular workshops. She was definitely in favor of 75
percent attendance at the regular business meetings since a person appointed
by Council has made a commitment and if unable to fulfill that commitment,
needs to be "counciled" out of the position.
Further discussion ensued about attendance at the workshop; the fact that
everyone has conflicts that occur; people in the community want to do
something; the Council should be looking at the performance of the B/C/C; and
the importance of punctuality at workshops so they can start on time.
Commissioner Grasser said she considered the 75 percent attendance factor to
be fair and she attends a lot of business meetings.
Director Krempl said the Commissioner's comments would be passed to the Clerk
via the Minutes.
DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS
Director Krempl noted that the January Workshop would have one of the General
Plan Consultants (JHK) addressing circulation and traffic considerations as
they pertain to the three scenarios; also there will be some input on Scenario
IV.
Planning Commission Minutes 9- January 13, 1988
- The February workshop time is shifted to 4:00 p.m. for a joint City
Council/Planning Commission workshop at the request of the Council.
Discussion will include policy and areas of concern. The Director said he
would like to get together with the Chair and any other member to
structure an agenda which would also be reviewed by the Mayor.
At the Council Meeting of January 12, Council adopted the Montgomery
Specific Plan following a lengthy hearing. Main areas of concern were the
same as voiced during the Commission hearing.
He thanked Commissioner Fuller for making a statement on behalf of the
Commission's support of the Plan.
- Stated that Council had suggested a couple of areas for further study;
namely, directions from staff, the Montgomery Planning Committee and the
Planning Commission regarding interim ordinances or regulations when a
particular project comes forward in compliance with existing zoning but
which will be in conflict with the Plan designation. He noted that we
would have that situation until plan implementation structure and
proposals for bringing the zoning into consistency were brought before the
Commission.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Grasser said she would not be at the next workshop as she would
be on a business trip. Commissioner Shipe said he would be present and
Commissioner Carson said she might be late, whereupon Commissioner Tugenberg
offered to start the meeting at 5:00.
ADJOURNMENT AT 8:45 p.m. to the Study Session Meeting on January 20, 1988 at 5:00 p.m. in Conference Rooms 2 & 3
Ruth M. Smith, Secretary
Planning Commission
WPC 4816v