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MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
Wednesday, October 11, 1989 Public Services Buildin~
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chairman Tugenberg, Commissioners Cannon,
Carson, and Fuller
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Commissioners Casillas, Grasser and Shipe -
all with prior notification
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Planning Krempl, Principal
Planner Lee, Associate Planner Griffin,
Assistant City Attorney Rudolf
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - SILENT PRAYER
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Chairman Tugenberg and was
followed by a moment of silent prayer.
Chairman Tugenberg reviewed the composition of the Planning Commission, its
responsibilities and the format of the meeting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Oscar Traubel, 441 Kearney St., CV, 92010, spoke regarding traffic
congestion. He noted that Normal Heights had put a moratorium on apartment
buildings in that portion of San Diego. He wondered if such might not be a
reasonable idea for Chula Vista to consider since so many single-family
residences are being replaced by apartment complexes in areas that were never
built to handle large-scale congestion. He asked if the problem were being
addressed in Chula Vista. Principal Planner Lee responded that the City
Council had adopted a resolution requiring the General Plan and the zoning to
be consistent in terms of density so, if there is an inconsistency, the owner
cannot put in additional units unless it complies with the General Plan
range. This will provide a general reduction in many parts of the central
core of Chula Vista.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, EIR-89-1 - OTAY
VALLEY ROAD WIDENING
Principal Planner Lee stated that the applicant has requested a continuation
until the meeting of November 8, 1989.
MSUC (Cannon Grasser) 4-0 to continue the item to November 8, 1989.
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2. PUBLIC HEARING: PCC-90-05 APPEAL FROM A DECISION OF TIlE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR TO REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 6-FOOT
HIGH BLOCK WALL AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO EXPAND
FAMILY DAY CARE HOME AT 615 COLORADO AVENUE NORMA
MERCER
Assistant Planner Griffin noted that this item involved a request to expand
from a small to a large-family day care home at 615 Colorado Avenue. A small
family day care home involves six or fewer children and is exempt from local
regulations. A large family day care home serves from seven to twelve
children and is subject to the City's Large Family Day Care Standards. These
Standards are fairly limited in that the State requires these homes to be
allowed in single-family areas subject only to certain "reasonable" local
standards regarding concentration, traffic and noise. When this particular
expansion proposal was noticed, the City received two letters of objection
from adjoining property owners to the north and east. These letters expressed
concern regarding property value decrease, traffic and noise impacts. As a
result, the Zoning Administrator held an Administrative Hearing and determined
it would be appropriate to require a 6-foot high, block-wall, noise
attenuation wall along the northerly and easterly property lines adjoining the
rear play area to replace the current wood fencing.
The applicant is appealing the condition on the basis that the requirement
does not relate directly to the objections of the adjoining property owners.
Staff disagrees because both parties mentioned noise, and recommends that the
decision of the Zoning Administrator be upheld and the appeal denied. No wall
replacement has been recommended for the south side because no objections had
been stated.
Commissioner Cannon asked if any study had been done on the noise attenuation
capabilities of a block wall versus a wood fence in terms of decibel levels.
Mr. Griffin replied that an environmental study done previously on a day care
facility on Beech Avenue indicated that construction of a block wall caused a
noise reduction of 7 decibels. The standard for a residential area is 55
dBA. The facility studied was a day care center authorized for up to 30
children but the actual number of children involved is unknown. The
Commissioner commented that if the block wall were required, it should be
required on all sides. He brought up the prospect of the sale of the
southerly property and the inability to enforce erection of a wall at a later
period of time.
Commissioner Fuller asked if it had been considered that 12 children might not
be present simultaneously, the ages are not indicated and different levels of
noise are created by pre-school children and older children.
In response to Commissioner Tugenberg's questions, Mr. Griffin said that
perhaps the large family day care permit could be conditioned so that a wall
could be constructed if such a need arose. It would be necessary, however, to
look further into the State Law in this regard. Commissioner Tugenberg
suggested that a similar procedure could be used regarding all of the walls.
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Assistant City Attorney Rudolf informed the Commission that the statutory
limits on the Ordinance says the City can only impose reasonable standards
with regard to the various areas of control including the noise. The
expedients discussed could be considered reasonable depending on what the
factual circumstances are. He noted this administrative process is designed
implicitly for day care centers in single-family residential areas and the
City is limited in its flexibility to the kinds of conditions that can be
imposed. Also, that for this particular process, there will be no appeal from
the Commission's decision.
This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
The following persons spoke in support of the applicant: (1) Debbie Besabe,
1220 Tobias Dr., CV, 92011; (2) Teresa Almazan, 619 Colorado Ave., CV, 92010;
(3) Sherron Linney, 561 Guava Ave., CV, 92011; 14) Fran Larson, 266 E. Millan
St., CV 92010; (5) Kathy Rhodes, 776-B Oaklawn Ave., CV, 92010; 16) Nancy
Cavanagh, 59 Corte Maria Ave., CV 92010; (7) Jim LoBue, 621 Woodlawn Ave., CV
92010; (8) Georgina Brave, 110 W "C" St., Ste 1903, S.D., 92101. Their
testimony included in part: (a) the great need for quality day care in the
City; lb) the noise from the close proximity to the freeway, trolley tracks
and the elementary school is more intrusive than from the day care center; and
(c) the cost of erecting a block wall might force closure of the facility.
Ms. Besabe, a licensed day care provider for 12, said her children are outside
about 4-1/2 hours. She is on the Chula Vista Task Force 2000 Child Care
Subcommittee charged with finding more ways to provide this care within the
City.
Ms. Linney's three children attend Mueller school nearby which is a tract
school. Ms. Mercer watches her children during the 3-week break period;
otherwise, she would not be able to work. Had tried all the child care
resources in Chula Vista and San Diego County but there were no vacancies.
Ms. Larson, a licensed day care provider for 12, has a cedar fence and her
neighbors are supportive. She is also on the Chula Vista 2000 Task Force.
The Task Force's study revealed there are 1,500 children without access to day
schools in Chula Vista. She was present when Council considered the Child
Care Ordinance and it was her understanding that the 6 foot wall would be
included in the Ordinance but was only to be used in extreme circumstances;
otherwise, hedges and wooden fences would be sufficient. A decibel study was
conducted on CVA's Children Company, located at the corner of Telegraph Canyon
Road and Nacion prior to site occupation and, therefore, not reflecting the
children's noise. This reading was compared with one taken at another day
care center of 35 children at play. The resulting reading did not exceed the
Noise Ordinance requirements. CVA has a chain link fence.
Ms. Rhodes shared the other half of a duplex with Ms. Mercer for 2 years
during which Ms. Mercer was caring for six children. There was a 5-foot
wooden fence. Mr. Rhodes works night but was never awakened by the children.
Planning Commission -4- October ll, 1989
Ms. Cavanagh, a licensed day care provider for 12 for 5 years, has a 5-foot
brick wall all around her property. This was not a requirement, but was there
when the property was purchased. She has had no noise complaints and elderly
people are in the neighborhood. She is also a Referral Representative for
South Bay and receives many calls requesting child care assistance. Ms.
Mercer is filling a need that most day care facilities do not provide as most
will only take full-time children between the ages of 2 to 5. Ms. Cavanagh is
also on the Chula Vista 2000 Task Force.
Mr. LoBue said he lived about 100 feet to the east of the facility. On the
occasions when he has picked up his two children from the facility, there has
been no noticeable noise outside and only mild noise inside the house. He
pointed out that the complaints are not an actual problem but the perception
of a possible one. One of the neighbors who objected is concerned only with
the weekends, the other lives in Nevada. He stated that there is no real
quantification for a block wall as opposed to a wood wall.
Norma Mercer, 615 Colorado Avenue, CV 92010, the applicant, stated that her
hours are from 6:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. She watches one child until 10:30 p.m.
three nights a week. The pick-up times vary but there are seldom more than
two parents simultaneously. No parking troubles. Children play outside from
lO:O0 to 11:30, come in for lunch and nap and outside again at 2:00. There
will not be 12 children all the time. Her plans include caring for the six
presently attending, keeping three openings for drop-ins and part-time cases
(when other people's sitters are on vacation or sick), and using the other
three openings for school-age children under 5 years old attending the nearby
tract school. The school-age children would be playing indoors. Her response
to questions was that she does not plan to use any signage; would not be
taking care of children on the weekends except for rare occasions; will have
an aide; and the six toddlers are under 3 years old.
Ralph B. Perkins, 609 Colorado Ave., CV, the neighboring homeowner, pointed
out the close proximity of his master bedroom to the fence and the Mercer's
family room abutting the fence. His concern is about his well-being on the
weekends, during his 5 weeks of vacation and 10 yearly holidays; also, the
resale of his house at a later date. He contrasted the "white noise" of the
freeway and that of a crying child who had earlier been removed from the
Chambers. Ms. Mercer had not informed him of her intentions prior to his
receipt of the hearing notice. The facility is established for Ms. Mercer's
economic gain, and she should be willing to help out her neighbors in return.
In response to questions he said he had been disturbed by noise but recognized
the fact that it would not exceed that of any family with three or four
children who might have been living there.
Ms. Brave said she was an attorney representing Ms. Mercer and presented a
handout to the Commission on the State Policies and then summarized it upon
request. There are insufficient number of day school in the State. There is
a public policy to have day care centers in residential environments.
Regarding large family day care centers, "Any noise standard shall be
consistent with local noise ordinance...and shall take into consideration the
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noise levels generated by children". No one has stated that the noise level
will exceed the 55 dBA level. In fact, the same six children will remain,
there will be three open spaces for drop-ins, and Ms. Mercer had not explained
that two of the 12-child maximum are her own. Some school-age children come
before and after school. The noise level will not be markedly different from
that at present, and to require a block wall would be a financial burden. No
proof has been presented that the increase in number would disturb anyone.
With the handout, she noted, was a letter from the School Principal stating
the need that exists for a program that would accept children after school.
Many day care centers will take children on a full-day schedule only, but for
the children to have a home to go to on the same block after school until
their parents get off from work is very valuable and hard to find. Ms. Brave
stated that Ms. Mercer would be willing to have the permit conditioned to
unannounced noise-testing to ensure conformance with the standards.
Commissioner Cannon said the whole consideration revolved around the wall as
all other standards for granting the permit were met. His concern is the
quantification of decibel level since unless something can be quantified,
imposing a standard is very difficult. The quantification in this case is
based on the noise regulations which should apply equally as well to a day
care center as anything else. If any complaints were received from the
neighbors and City testing of the decibel level revealed noise levels in
excess of City Standards, then a block wall could be imposed.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
MS (Cannon/Carson) to grant the appeal subject to the condition that if any
complaints are made by any of the neighbors with regard to noise that the City
will make an unannounced test for compliance with the City Noise Standards and
in the event of non-compliance, then the imposition of a requirement for a
block wall, 6-feet in height, on all sides of that property will be made to
mitigate the noise problem at that location.
Commissioner Fuller said she agreed that noise testing should be made if
complaints were received, however, she was not entirely convinced that a block
wall is the answer based on personal experience. Recently, she had replaced a
deteriorating wooden fence with a block wall, however, it has had no effect on
the noise emanating from her neighbor's four children. For that reason, she
would not be in favor of requiring such a financial expenditure for a
non-proven theory. She would, however, support the motion to enable Ms.
Mercer to operate her facility.
Commissioner Cannon said he would like to amend the motion. After hearing the
amended motion, Commissioner Carson agreed.
AMENDED MOTION
MSUC ICannon/Carson) to grant the appeal subject to the conditions that if any
complaints are made by any of the neighbors with regard to noise, that the
City shall make an unannounced test for compliance with the City Noise
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Standards and in the event of non-compliance that the item return to the
Planning Commission for further review for possible further sound attenuation
measures.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: PCM-89-04 - CONSIDERATION TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE
WESTERLY SEGMENT OF RIDGEBACK ROAD TO TERRA NOVA DRIVE
- CITY INITIATED
Assistant Planner Griffin stated that Ridgeback Road was originally planned as
a continuous street extending from East "H" Street through to Otay Lakes
Road. However, the approval of the Rancho del Rey plan and the RdR loop road
has created two segments of this road. To avoid confusion, it is proposed to
change the name of the westerly segment because no properties are currently
addressed off this segment. The name Terra Nova Drive identifies with the
area and does not conflict with any existing City street names.
The Commission expressed concern at changing the name of a continuous street
because of confusion caused in the past by the "L" Street/Telegraph Canyon
Road, "E" Street/Bonita Road situations. Also criticized was the practice of
street names in close proximity being differentiated only by a suffix such as
"Lane", "Court", "Drive" and the like, thereby causing confusion for emergency
vehicles as well as visitors. The method for reviewing street names was asked.
Principal Planner Lee explained that when road names are requested on
individual subdivisions, they are reviewed by Fire Service, Police, Planning
and Engineering to ensure no duplication exists within the planning area.
Sometimes, however, the continuation of an existing road is missed,
particularly if it skews off at a different angle. When 1-805 was being
planned, the major roads had been reviewed and it had been suggested that a
break be made at the freeway. Council, however, took no action.
Commissioner Cannon referred to the junction of Ridgeback Road and Otay Lakes
Road and asked why that portion of Ridgeback Road should not be named the same
as across the road; that would alleviate the problem without having to rename
a segment by Terra Nova where there is no complaint. Mr. Griffin indicated
that there are properties that are addressed on that portion of Ridgeback Road
which would present complications not found in an unaddressed section. In
response to a further question about changing the name of the street opposite
Ridgeview Road at Otay Lakes Road (proposed as Avenida del Rey) at this time,
Mr. Lee noted that the hearing had been advertised for the westerly segment of
Ridgeback Road. A new hearing for the easterly side would have to be
advertised to make similar changes. The Commissioner suggested that since the
area being considered at tonight's hearing had not been built out, this was
the time to ensure that continuing roads maintained the same name on both
sides of an intersection. If a developer wants to bring a street out at the
same signal, it should be named the same street.
The Commissioner requested that a report be brought back from McMillin
regarding alleviating this problem. He said he would like to see some sort of
discussion of what he perceives as a continuation of an existing problem in
Chula Vista.
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This being the time and the place as advertised, the public hearing was
opened. No one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
MSUC (Cannon/Fuller) 4-0 to continue the item to November 8, 1989 so a report
can be received from McMillin Development.
Commissioner Fuller said she would like the discussion to include the street
names that were differentiated by only the words "Lane, Court" and the like.
OTHER BUSINESS - None
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Krempl reminded the Commission of the workshop on the Otay Ranch
Project. Commissioner Fuller asked if that was the same night as he and
Commissioner Carson were participating on a panel. Mr. Krempl replied that
they were, at 7:00 p.m.
COMMISSION COMMENTS - None
ADJOURNMENT AT 8:20 p.m.to the Study Session Meeting of October 18, 1989 at
5:00 p.m. in Conference Rooms 2 and 3.
/~Smit~ording Secretary
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