HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1983/10/12 Tape 239 - Side 1
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
Wednesday, October 12, 1983 Public Services Building
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman O'Neill; Commissioners Cannon,
Green, Guiles, Pressutti, and Shipe
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Chairman R. Johnson - with prior notification
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Planning Gray, Principal Planner Lee,
Senior C~;'~l [,~§~F.~c~- D~t, City Attorney
Harron, Secretary Ruth Smith
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, SILENT PRAYER
The pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Vice Chairman O'Neill, acting
as Chairman Pro Tem for the meeting, and was followed by a moment of silent
prayer.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC (Shipe/Green) to approve the minutes of September 14, 1983, as mailed.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
1. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP FOR
BONITA VISTA, CHULA VISTA TRACE 8O-12, 4243 BONITA ROAD
Principal Planner Lee informed the Planning Commission that this is the third
and last extension of the 50-unit project .originally approved in 1980. There
have been no significant changes in the immediate vicinity which affect the
original findings of approval of the tentative map, and staff recommends
approval of the one-year extension.
MSC (Pressutt~/Gulle) to approve a one-year extension of the tentative
subdivision map for Bonita Vista, Chula Vista Tract 80-12; the map to expire
on October 29, 1984. Chairman Pro Tem O'Neill voted "no," stating that the
project is a condominium, and he will oppose condominium conversions as long
as there is a low rental condition in Chula Vista.
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2. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE TENTATIVE MAP FOR GATEWAY
TOWNHOUSES, CHULA VISTA TRACT 80-31, l00 BLOCK OF EAST FLOWER STREET
Principal Planner Lee stated that the project consisted of a 205-unit
townhouse condominium project which was approved in September 1980. A
one-year extension was granted in 1982, and the developer is requesting a
two-year extension citing additional planning and architecture design as the
reason for the request. This will be the last extension, and the map will
expire on September 30, 1985.
MSUC (Shipe/Pressutti) to approve the two-year extension of the tentative
subdivision map for Gateway Townhouses, Chula Vista Tract 80-81.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO PRECISE PLAN SIGN
GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 1-ACRE
SITE LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF 1-805 AND
BONITA ROAD - BURGER KING RESTAURANTS
Principal Planner Lee stated that the applicant has an option on a 1-acre site
on the east side of 1-805. This area was pre-zoned and annexed to the City in
1978 with development guidelines limiting the signing to a wall sign and a
ground monument. The applicant is requesting that the City remove these
guidelines to allow the erection of a 150-square foot pole sign for the
purpose of freeway identification, citing the use of such signage on the west
side of 1-805. (Mr. Lee passed photographs of the site flagged at various
heights to indicate sign height needed for visibility by north- and southbound
freeway motorists.) He stressed that such signs are contrary to the goals and
objectives of the Scenic Highway Element of the General Plan and that to
change the guidelines would be to open the door to many businesses requesting
signage.
In reply to a question by Chairman Pro Tem O'Neill, Principal Planner Lee
stated that the area on the north side of Bonita Road has always been C-V-P;
that the area to the south is in the County and is in the residential
cateqorv; the siqnage on the west side of 1-805 involves 3-8 acre properties
and ~on~ists of ~ 43-foot high, 300-square foot joint identification sign in
the northwest quadrant with a 20-foot high, lO0-square foot sign in the
southwest.quadrant, and an additional 150-square foot sign area reserved for
the Ferrelra property. He added that the Council had applied the P zoning to
all the interchanges in the City, both I-5 and 1-805, to indicate its concern
regarding the aesthetic qualities desired of a "gateway" to the City.
Commissioner Green remarked that if the area is classified Visitor-Commercial,
the purpose is to attract visitors and that identification should be permitted.
Chairman Pro Tem O'Neill advocated the use of signage similar to that used in
Oregon wherein logos of businesses located at an interchange are displayed on
a joint sign about a mile prior to the interchange allowing ample time to
leave the freeway.
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Planner Lee replied that such usage was tried in the northern part of
California on an experimental basis. The last communication received from the
State indicated dissatisfaction with the program although no definite
information was given.
This being the time and the place advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Carol Freno, 3703 Alta Loma Drive, Bonita, 92002, president of the Sweetwater
Valley Civic Association spoke against additional signing at the 1-805
interchange and stressed that the traffic situation at this intersection needs
review. She referred to the congested traffic, large number of traffic
signals, back-up of traffic, and the difficulty of getting to Bonita Plaza
Road.
Roger Swift, 599 Broadway, Chula Vista, 92010, the applicant, stated that the
proposed Burger King will provide 50 to 60 new jobs for the area. He outlined
the amount of money invested and stated it is vital to tap the freeway
traffic. He stated that the idea of a combination logo sign sounded
outstanding; he had no objection to joint sign usage and was willing to lower
the height of the sign requested.
Gene York, 160 Brightwood Avenue, Chula Vista, 92012, representing 805
Properties on the southwest corner of the freeway, spoke in favor of the
freeway-oriented sign. He stated that Burger King had refused to negotiate
with his firm because of lack of signage on the property. Mr. York emphasized
that the interchange is commercial and would become more so in the future and
freeway identification is absolutely necessary. He expressed approval of
Chairman O'Neill's remarks and added that the State of Oregon's sign program
is very successful and such a program could eliminate 99 percent of
freeway-oriented signs.
Commissioner Cannon stated that the more signs we have, the less beauty; there
must be consistency in a scenic highway either being without signs or being
redesignated as a freeway sign area, and the first sign application is a
guarantee of others. Also, he added, the developer knew about the sign
restrictions before he put a deposit on the property. The freeway sign matter
in this area was voted on by the Planning Commission and the City Council at
previous meetings and settled. It should not be necessary for another
developer to come before the Commission for a decision.
No one else wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Shipe stated he sees a need for signs; however, the reaction of
the people to the placement of Denny's sign has had such an effect on him
personally that he is not comfortable with a 50-foot sign located at the
"gateway" to Chula Vista and plans to support staff's recommendation.
MSC (Cannon/Shipe) to recommend that the City Council not amend the precise
plan guidelines as requested by the applicant. Commission Green voted "no."
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MSUC (O'Neill/Cannon) that the City of Chula Vista address a letter to the
State asking the results of the combined logo signage experiment conducted in
the northern part of the State.
Commissioner Cannon added that New York uses this kind of signage throughout
the upper State and it is very effective. He offered to draft the necessary
letter.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Planning Director Gray observed that the study workshop would be scheduled for
October 19, 1983, at 5:00 p.m., with dinner following at the Country Club.
The topic would be a briefing by the consultant, Paul Manganelli, on the E1
Rancho del Rey General Plan Amendment.
- that the Council would consider the report on City Code requirements for a
4/5ths vote to override Planning Commission actions on October 25, 1983.
- the staff was working with LAFCO staff on the Sphere of Influence report
for Council consideration at the meeting of October 25, 1983. Copies of
the report would be available for the Planning Commission at the study
workshop.
ADJOURNMENT AT 8:08 p.m. to the Study Session of 10/19/83, at 5:00 p.m., in
Conference Room 3 and to the Regular Business Meeting of 10/26/83, at 7:00
p.m., in the Council Chambers.
Ruth M. Smith, Secretary
Planning Commission
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