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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1975/12/08 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA December 8, 1975 A regular meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista, California was held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. with the following members present: Chandler, Rudolph, Starr, Floto, Pressutti, Smith and Johnson. Also present: Director of Planning Peterson, Current Planning Supervisor Lee, Environ- mental Review Coordinator Reid, Assistant Director of Public Works Lippitt, City Attorney Lindberg, and Secretary Mapes. Chairman Chandler led the pledge of allegiance to the flag, followed by a moment of silent prayer. Chairman Chandler extended a welcome on behalf of all members of the Commission to Mr. Roy Johnson, newly appointed Commissioner. APPROVAL OF MINUTES IISUC (Rudolph-Floto) The minutes of the meeting of November 10, 1975 be approved as written. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Chairman Chandler called for oral communications and none were offered. Consideration of EIR-75-4 for change of zone and 1. PUBLIC HEARING (Cont.): lot split at 1-805 and East J Street. Environmental Review Coordinator Reid noted that this hearing was continued from the meeting of November 24 in order to obtain a geologist's report on the Sweetwater fault. It was the conclusion of that report that the fault lies west of this site; that information has been included in the Environmental Impact Report. Mr. Reid pointed out that this site is subject to unacceptable noise from the freeway, but this impact can be mitigated through proper construction techniques. The Chairman opened the continued hearing, and as no one wished to speak, the hearing was closed. Commissioner Rudolph suggested that in a location this near the urban core of the City, a higher density than permitted in the "H" District might be desirable. Mr. Reid advised that due to the type of slopes on this site and the configuration of the property, it is felt the density could not be increased above the proposed three single family lots. In response to a question from Commissioner Smith, Director of Planning Peterson -2- December 8, 1975 explained that access from J street could be obtained either through the vacation of what is apparently excess width of right of way of J street, or by an encroachment permit into that right of way. MSUC (Pressutti-Floto) The final Environmental Impact Report EIR-75-4 be adopted. 2. PUBLIC HEARING (Cont.): Consideration of change of zone for 1.62 acres at the northwest ~uadrant of I'805 and East J Street from unzoned to R-1-H - City initiated. Director of Planning Peterson reported that while the staff had considered the possibility of attaching the "P" or PUD District to this property, it was felt this would be an unnecessary burden on the owner for the development of only three lots as proposed under the lot split which has been filed. He called attention to the findings in the report in support of this zone designation and to the recommendation for approval. Chairman Chandler reopened the continued public hearing. George Cunradi, 8703 Tyler, Spring Valley, reported that he would not anticipate grading or placing fill on the site of the structures, but that the floor level would be the same as the street elevation, with the rear of the house on a raised foundation. He advised that an individual sewer pump would be installed for each of the homes to bring the sewage to a sewer main. He concurred with suggestions for mitigating the noise from the freeway. As no one else wished to speak, the public hearing was closed. MSUC (Pressutti-Rudolph) The Commission certifies that EIR-75-4 has been reviewed, its information has been considered, and that it has been prepared in accordance with CEQA, the California Administrative Code, and the Chula Vista Environmental Review Policy. MSUC (Pressutti-Rudolph) The Commission recommends to the City Council the rezoning of 1.62 acres of property located at the northwest quadrant of 1-805 and East J Street from unzoned to R-1-H. MSC (Rudolph-Starr) The Commission directs the staff to work with the developer to make certain that noise mitigating measures are carried out in the development of the property. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Commissioners Rudolph, Starr, Floto, Chandler, Pressutti and Johnson NOES: Commissioner Smith 3. Consideration of including Mannis lot in Leckman Annexation Director of Planning Peterson advised that the Commission has previously endorsed the annexation of the Leckman property on Hilltop Drive. Shortly after that Mr. - Mannis indicated he also wished to annex his property to the city. In order to - -3- -~ December 8, 1975 simplify the procedure it is recommended that the two lots be handled as one annexation. Mr. Peterson pointed out that although this parcel appears on the plat to be landlocked, it does have access to Pepper Tree Road via a private street. MSUC (Starr-Pressutti) The Commission approves the boundaries of the Leckman- Mannis Annexation as proposed and authorizes the staff to file the application with LAFCO. 4. PUBLIC HEARING (Cont.): Variance PCV-75-19 - Request to install a 50 ft. hi~h~ 314 sq. ft. freestandin~ si~n~ 98 E. Bonita Road~ Union Oil Co. Director of Planning Peterson reported that the Environmental Review Committee reviewed the Initial Study on this application and determined that a sign of this size could have possible significant effect on the environment, and the Committee required that the applicant prepare an Environmental Impact Report. Inasmuch as such a report must be considered by the Commission prior to action on this application, it is recommended that this public hearing be continued to January 26, 1976. MSUC (Rudolph-Starr) The public hearing in consideration of variance PCV-75-19 be continued to the meeting of January 26, 1976. 5. Continued consideration of request to operate veterinary clinic in C-N zone~ 1~66 Melrose Avenue - S. P. W~t~rman~ D.V.M. Director of Planning Peterson advised that this item was continued from the meeting of November l0 so that notice of the proposed use could be mailed to residents in the vicinity as in the case of public hearings. This was done and no response was received prior to the time of the meeting. He pointed out that the zoning ordinance lists veterinary clinics as an allowed use only in the C-T zone, but it is felt that provision is obsolescent since there have been advances in the field that have eliminated some of the nuisance features of such clinics. He suggested that the ordinance be amended to allow veterinary clinics without overnight boarding in the more restrictive commercial zones. Hr. Peterson also pointed out that provisions in the ordinance for C-N zone allow the Commission to approve uses other than those listed providing the finding is made that the use is similar to and compatible with uses allowed in the zone. Such findings are included in the staff report for the Commission's consideration along with a recommendation for approval of the request. In response to a question from Commissioner Rudolph, Mr. Peterson advised that he thought veterinary clinics should be a conditional use in the C-N zone and perhaps a basic use in the C-C zone. He expressed the opinion that allowing them only in the C-T zone is very restrictive and that the need for such service cannot be met if they are allowed only in that zone. Commissioner Rudolph again voiced the opinion that this use is in conflict with the purpose and structure of the C-N zone. -4- '~ December 8, 1975 Commissioner Pressutti pointed out that the C-N zone has resulted in various types of commercial development at the different locations of that zone. He pointed out that this particular shopping center site has extensive commercial area and parking, is isolated from adjacent residential use and there are other uses in this particular area which would make this use compatible, in his opinion. MS (Pressutti-Floto) The Commission adopts resolution PCM-75-25 to operate a veterinary clinic in the C-N zone at 1466 Melrose Avenue, subject to the following conditions: 1. No overnight boarding of animals shall be allowed. 2. Examination and treatment rooms shall be fully soundproofed. Approval is based upon the following finding: The proposed veterinary clinic fulfills a clear need in this area since there are no clinics within two miles; the clinic functions well in this C-N zoned center as an outpatient clinic only, under limited hours of operation. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Commissioners Pressutti, Floto, Chandler, Johnson and Smith NOES: Commissioners Rudolph and Starr 6. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional use permit PCC-75-24 - Request to operate storage lot for towed vehicles in C-T zone~ 619 K Street - Duane Pudqil._ Current Planning Supervisor Lee indicated the location of two lots, totaling about 20,000 sq. ft., which are the site of this request. The easterly portion of the site was approved for an auto storage lot in 1971 but the permit expired without being used. The present applicant proposes to use the easterly portion for auto storage while the westerly portion would be used for a repair garage facility which is presently in operation on the site. Mr. Lee reported that the property is enclosed with a chainlink fence, with a solid wall along the east side where the property abuts a commercial development. Approval of this request should require a solid wall on all sides of the property. It is recommended that the existing fencing along K Street be moved back to a minimum 5 ft. setback to provide for landscaping in that area. A 6 ft. masonry zoning wall will be required where the property abuts the R-3 zone, which would amount to a little over lO0 ft. in length. This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened. Duane Pudgil, 378 San Miguel Drive, advised that his original application requested permission to store cars on the easterly lot, and most of the requirements set forth relate to the westerly lot. He indicated his desire to delete the requirement for setting the fence back on the westerly lot since this would interfere with an existing sign in front of the garage. He also asked that the permit apply only to the easterly lot with a fence to be installed between the two lots. As no one else wished to speak, the public hearing was closed. -5- December 8, 1975 MSUC (Pressutti-Starr) The Commission finds that this project would not have any possible significant impact on the environment and certifies the Negative Declaration on IS-75-75. Commissioner Pressutti expressed the opinion that this conditional use permit should apply only to the easterly lot, thus eliminating the need for a 6 ft. masonry zoning wall as recommended in the staff report. MSUC (Pressutti-Smith) Based on the findings as stated in the staff report, the Commission approves conditional use permit PCC-75-24 for the operation of a dead storage yard for towed vehicles on a vacant 84' x 140' parcel east of 621 K Street, subject to the following conditions: 1. The front setback (5ft, minimum) and parkway area shall be fully landscaped in accordance with a plan approved by the City Landscape Planner. The Chula Vista Landscape Manual is to be used in preparing such plans. The two existing mature trees on site shall be preserved. 2. The existing chainlink fence adjacent to K Street shall be set back 5 feet from the property line to provide for adequate landscaping area. 3. Chainlink fencing which exists on the north and south property lines as well as the fencing required to be installed on the west property line shall utilize double wooden slat inserts to provide a solid screen. 4. The vehicle storage lot shall be surfaced as a "semi-permanent use." The pavement standards in the Chula Vista zoning ordinance shall govern the type of surface required. 5. No salvage or wrecking operations shall take place on this site. 7. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional use permit PCC-75-25 - Request to construct four structures in I-L-F zon% 300 bl~k TrOUSdale Drive - Dunph~ Construction Co. Current Planning Supervisor Lee pointed out the three separate areas in the flood plain of lower Sweetwater Valley which the applicant proposes to develop in four phases: Phases A and B located north of Trousdale Drive, adjacent to the right of way of Route 54; Phase C, south of Trousdale Drive, west of North Glover; and Phase D, east of Press Lane. Two buildings are proposed for construction in Phases A and B and two buildings in Phase D. Phase C involves the development of the parcel on the south side of Trousdale Drive, proposed for use as an auto storage lot which is an allowed use in the I-L zone. Mr. Lee called attention to the six conditions recommended and to the findings in support of approval of this application. This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened. As no one wished to speak the public hearing was closed. MSUC (Starr-Rudolph) The Commission finds that this project would not have any possible significant impact on the environment and certifies the Negative Declaration on EA-73-16. - -6- -- December 8, 1975 MSUC (Starr-Rudolph) Conditional use permit PCC-75-25 for construction of industrial buildings and an auto storage yard in the flood plain is approved with conditions and findings as stated in the report to the Commission. 8. Consideration of Redevelopment Plan for Third Avenue Director of Planning Peterson advised that the Preliminary Redevelopment Plan as submitted to the Commission is not a physical plan for the redevelopment of Third Avenue, but is a legal type of document designed to fulfill the requirements of State Law for preliminary redevelopment plans. It establishes the boundaries; sets forth reasons why the area would qualify as a redevelopment area based on some of the blighting influences which exist; and states goals and objectives and establishes principles to be followed in the Redevelopment Plan. He reported that even the final plan may not be a physical plan, but would be a flexible plan which establishes design guidelines for redevelopment of the area. Community Development Director Desrochers reported that a flexible plan for this project is contemplated because the funding is not clear. It is not known whether there will be tax increment funds to be utilized, or whether Block Grant money will be used for this project. The physical plan will be formulated as each building comes forth. He pointed out that this preliminary plan is designed to lay a foundatio~ and this is only one portion of the City's involvement Or the City's commitment to the Third Avenue spine. The purpose of this plan is to stimulate private enterprise. It is hoped that tax increment money can then be used to improve circulation, parking, sidewalks and such amenities. The City is not anticipating large scale acquisition of property. ~Ir. Desrochers called attention to the Goals and Objectives Section as one of the more important elements of the Preliminary Plan. It is hoped that the development of the court complex at Third and H will stimulate growth in the downtown area. Included in the goals is the encouragement of multi-family, middle-income residen- tial units in and near the core area. Such development has been approved on Center Street. Mr. Desrochers pointed out that the redevelopment area is divided into three subareas; Area No. 1 being the old town site and the principal area of focus; Area 2 is the connector; and Area 3 is the courthouse site and environs. It is not expected that much participation will be required in Areas 2 and 3, but these areas are include( in the plan because they are an integral part of the central business district and an attempt will be made to stimulate the growth upwards on Third Avenue rather than toward the post office. Mr. Desrochers reported that it is the Redevelopment Agency's attorney's advice that the last sentence in paragraph 3 on page 7 relating to "Frozen Tax Base Exclusions and Limitations" be deleted from the report, since it is not possible to limit the period of the Agency's utilization of tax revenues from certain areas or specific sites. The Agency, however, can give a percentage of the tax increments back to the school districts, county agencies and city. mr. Desrochers acknowledged that the General Plan of the City was very farsighted and serves as a platform for this document. The Preliminary Plan closely resembles and attempts to strengthen the General Plan for this area. -7- ~ December 8, 1975 He advised that if the Commission recommends approval of the Preliminary Plan at this meeting, it will then be presented to the Redevelopment Agency on Thursday evening, December ll, and then staff will begin work on the Redevelopment Plan. This will take approximately two months and when that is completed an Environmental Impact Report will be required. When these two documents have been prepared and are ready for consideration, public hearings will be held before the Planning Commission and City Council and Redevelopment Agency acting as one body. It is hoped that this will occur near the end of this fiscal year. If this is done and the project is given approval, then the tax base can be frozen as of March 1, 1975. Commissioner Rudolph recommended that Block Grant Funds not be used for this project since the need for them in other areas of the city is very great. She commended the plan and particularly the fact that it does not anticipate demolish- ing the area and starting all over. She felt there is a lot on Third Avenue to start with and it needS only care and upgrading. She advised that she had some suggestions on the plan but questioned whether this is the time and place for presenting them. She offered to submit them in writing and suggested that they be discussed in a study session rather than this business meeting. She suggested that item H under Goals and Objectives, which relates to the encouragement of multi-family, middle-income residential units, should be changed to the encourage- ment of economically heterogeneous units, and that no income level should be discouraged or excluded. Mr. Desrochers advised that there is presently housing of the lower economic level in the area and in line with the Gruen report an attempt is being made to get some of the middle-income residents back to the urban core. The plan does not discourage housing for any economic level. Commissioner Starr pointed out that any good plan has a schedule and su9gested that it would be desirable to have a schedule included in this plan to indicate the landmarks discussed by Mr. Desrochers and when finalization of the plan is expected. Mr. Desrochers advised there is an in-house flow chart which indicates the time schedule. He could see no harm in including this information in the report. At any rate it could be provided to the Planning Commission and the City Council. He pointed out there is a Third Avenue Project Committee, representative of Third Avenue businesses and residents. This includes Tom Huntington, Chairman; Kyle Stewart, former Planning Commissioner; Stanley Glenn; Phil Creaser and Vivian Dennie. This committee is cognizant of the time schedule. Commissioner Pressutti suggested the addition of a vocabulary list for the benefit of laymen who may not be familiar with the meaning of such terms as "street furniture" and "frozen tax base". Mr. Desrochers indicated that his report to the Redevelopment A§ency on Thursday would include the suggestions submitted by members of the Planning Commission, such as the inclusion of a time schedule, a glossary, and reference to a heterogen- eous mix of housing. Commissioner Smith questioned the desirability of including subareas 2 and 3 in December 8, 1975 this redevelopment plan since including that area in the frozen tax base limits the tax revenue for regular city services, and the increasing cost of such services must therefore be born by taxpayers outside of that area. He felt that the suggestion of allocating an unspecified portion of the tax increment funds to other agencies is not specific or binding. He felt that no area should be included that does not need redevelopment. Mr. Desrochers pointed out the possibility that the court complex may not utilize all of the area anticipated for that use and that inclusion in the Redevelopment project will give the city control over the additional development that may take place in the vicinity of the courts. He pointed out that this plan is flexible and has been designed to address land use problems in that area. Commissioner Smith indicated that he cannot support a plan which is not more specific than the report indicates. City Attorney Lindberg pointed out that the Planning Commission's prime concern should be the land use and all of the ramifications that arise from that, rather than with tax base exclusions and limitations. Director of Planning Peterson expressed the opinion that the court complex at this site at Third and H may well be the most significant development that occurs in Chula Vista in the next 30 or 40 years, and that it is very appropriate that it be included within the Redevelopment area so that the Planning Commission and City Council can review in detail all plans for development in that area. That would not occur if the area is not included in the Redevelopment program. MS (Pressutti-Rudolph) The Commission recommends to the Redevelopment Agency the approval of the Preliminary Redevelopment Plan for the Third Avenue Project. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Commissioners Pressutti, Rudolph, Floto, Starr, Chandler and Johnson NOES: Commissioner Smith 9. PUBLIC HEARING: Consideration of revised plan under conditional use permit PCC-75-16 for boarding house for 2i pers~ns~ 153 B~i§htwoOd - First Baptist Church. Current Planning Supervisor Lee pointed out this is the site on which the Planning Commission approved a conditional use permit for the same use on October 27. That decision was appealed to the City Council, but before the appeal was considered the applicant withdrew the original plan for utilization of two structures and filed a revised plan which calls for removal of the existing house and replacing it with a two-story structure containing 7 bedrooms, 3 I/2 baths and a two-car garage. The revised plan reduces the number of residents to 21 persons. It also provides 5 off-street parking spaces in addition to the garage and changes the access from Brightwood Avenue to Flower Street. Mr. Lee reported the receipt of a letter from the property owner at 169 Brightwood in opposition to this request, and a petition signed by 170 residents in opposition to communes in general in the City of Chula Vista. -9- -' December 8, 1975 He called attention to the recommended conditions, the findings in support of the · application, and the recommendation for approval. City Attorney Lindberg reviewed the problem of the communal homes located presently in the R-1 zones. A request was made for a change of the zoning ordinance to allow for such family lifestyle in the single family residential areas by conditional use permit; this request was rejected by the City Council and the communal house- holds have been directed to vacate the R-1 zone. He pointed out that a boarding house of the nature applied for in this request could be used by almost any type of social group. ~r. Lindberg read comments from the "American Law of Zoning" which pointed out that a substantial part of the population does not live in conventional, single family houses or apartments, or even in mobile homes. The report noted that at the simplest level boarding house and rooming houses provide accommodations for single people or those who are disassociated from families. Others combine the residential facilities with various types of medical and/or psychiatric care to deal with special problems. While such facilities serve a definite housing need in certain areas for certain types of persons, it is recognized that the proper location of boarding and rooming houses is recurrent and difficult problem in zoning. Mr. Lindberg pointed out that the basis for this hearing is the revised plan and suggested that testimony be confined as much as possible to the issues of the revision of the plan, as it may have a differing impact than the plan previously approved. He also expressed the hope that testimony not get into side issues such as the lifestyle of those persons who may reside here, since granting the conditional use permit will mean that this unit, at some future .... time, could be used by any persons legally operating a boarding house. Commissioner Pressutti noted that questions have been raised concerning the difference in tax revenues to the City from this type of use :ompared to apartments. Mr. Lindberg expressed the opinion that it is not a legitimate concern. He pointed out that in the past the City has examined proposals for commercial or industrial development to determine if the revenue accruing to the City would offset the services required as a result of the development. He noted that the City is required by law to seek accommodations for all income levels. Residential development cannot be restricted to the type of residents that produce top dollar in revenues. This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened. Ken Pagard, 424 Westby Street, advised that shortly after applying for the first permit it was determined that the existing house on the site was substandard and inadequate. When they reported their decision to tear it down and build one new structure on the site which would be adequate for their use, they were advised that the revisions in their plan were sufficient enough to require a new public hearing before the Planning Commission. John Papish, 471 E Street, asked about the rules and regulations for boarding house use. - Mr. Lindberg advised that conditions for this proposed use have been recommended and should be adopted if the use is approved. - -10- -- December 8, 1975 Chairman Chandler read the ten conditions recon~nended in the staff report. Rosette Morris, 862 Cedar, expressed the opinion that the period of 3 years before review of the operation by the Planning Commission is a considerable length of time since the permit goes with the land and the property might be sold prior to that time. Newt Chaney, 292 Seavale, called attention to the map on display which indicates the location of the communes in Chula Vista and also indicates by dots placed on the map the residence of a taxpayer who objects to the existence of the communes in Chula Vista. The heaviest concentration of objectors is in the 153 Bri§htwood area since that sight is under consideration at this time. He advised that over 400 signatures have been obtained on petitions in opposition to religious communal life in Chula Vista. He expressed the opinion that a decision on an application of this sort should not be concerned with land use only, but should take into account all factors and the effe~they will have on the surrounding residents and the community as a whole. He felt the Commission should have received a more comprehensive report. He indicated that the opposition to these communes is a legitimate concern in light of testimony ~resented previously of cases of abuse of individuals within the households. Hugh Ferguson, 728 Elm, called attention to the prerequisites for granting conditional use permits as contained in the zoning ordinance. He commented particularly on the first mandatory finding which states that the proposed use is necessary or desirable to provide a service or facility which contributes to the general well-being of the neighborhood or the community. He asserted that in the past an abundance of evidence was presented demonstrating that the proposed use in this case does not contribute to the general well-being of the neighborhood or community. He cited as an example that the testimony given by Ken and Karen Vary at the previous hearing on October 27:made it clear that this communal living is a dangerous social movement which does not contribute to the general well-being. He also called attention to a letter directed to the City Council by Mary Seifert which objected to the tactics used to prevent residents of the households from leaving when they desire to do so. He also read from another letter directed to the Council which related to the pressure placed on members of the commune to conform to the wishes of the head of house- hold, and never to act independently, following their own conviction. Mr. Ferguson maintained that such a dangerous social movement should be stopped. He also asserted that the more economical lifestyle as afforded by this type of living contributes to the welfare of the church and not to the neighborhood or community. He further declared that the evidence presented makes it impossible to make the first mandatory finding for approving the application. Bud Miller asked about the legality of reading testimony from letters when the writer is not present to be questioned. Mr. Lindberg advised that in an administrative hearing the rules of a court of law are not applied. He felt the Commissioners are aware of the probative value of such testimony. -- -ll- '- December 8, 1975 Nancy Lawe, 161 Brightwood, spoke in objection to the affirmative finding that the proposed use will comply with the regulations and conditions specified in the Municipal Code for such use. She maintained that the proposed parking does not meet the zoning regulations for this type of use. She felt the city is bending over backward for the accommodation of a particular group whereas other citizens are required to meet the standards for which exceptions are being made in this instance. She also took exception to the fourth finding that this use will not adversely affect the General Plan of the City. She asserted that it is not compatible with the surrounding use which is mainly single family dwellings. She also maintained it does not meet the regulations for a standard boarding house with regard to space requirements per occupant. David Mills, 169 Brightwood, stressed the fact that hundreds of citizens oppose the commune movement in this city. He asserted that by bending the R-3 regula- tions to accommodate the communes, the City is not acting in the interest of the general welfare of the citizens. He maintained that this is a single purpose building, and while the communes may leave the city the building will not and it will become a white elephant. William Rambur declared that land usage should take into consideration any impact it has on the citizens in the entire community and that this communal movement has a detrimental effect. He maintained that his right to freedom from religion is being threatened by the leadership of this church who published an article stating, "We, as a church are a beachhead for the Lord here in Chula Vista. Our mission is to take Chula Vista for Christ .... by demonstrating a radically different and superior lifestyle, that of the Kingdom of Heaven." Ken Pagard, 424 Westby, stated that he categorically denies the veracity of all of the statements that have been made negative to what goes on in their house- holds. He extended an invitation for anyone to visit them at any time to see for themselves. David Bishop, a visitor from England staying ~n one of the houses for the last six or eight weeks, spoke in their behalf, maintaining they are beneficial in helping those who are disturbed or whose marriages have broken down. Hugh Ferguson commented that on the following night the City Council is holding a hearing to consider the communes in the R-1 zones and felt it would be incongruous for the Planning Commission to proceed with this application in light of that action. Mr. Lindberg advised that the purpose of the hearing before the Council is to made a determination whether the existing communal extended family homes located in the R-1 zones constitute a public nuisance. The application being considered at this time is for a conditional use permit in an R-3 zone which is an entirely different issue. William Fleming, 1783 Yale Street, expressed the opinion that the community households in Chula Vista are serving a very necessary place in the society, by providing a ministry to people coming from fractured homes. He felt the households minister to such people in love, rendering a service which no one else has been willing to do. He contended there is no coercion to bring young people into the households and cited an example of two young men who considered going into one and they were counseled that they had normal family ties to meet their needs and there were other people who needed the ministry of the community households. One of these young men was his son. -12- December 8, 1975 Rosette Morris, 862 Cedar, related the experience of her own daughter, who, despite strong family ties and a good social and scholastic background, felt compelled to enter one of the households, due to the preaching that it was the only way for a good Christian to live. After entering the household the girl left college and worked full time at a bank, turning over all of her earnings to the head of the household. She made two unsuccessful attempts to leave the household before she was finally able to get away. She is now attending an out of state college. Clarence Knight, 117 Jefferson Avenue, pointed out that schools are attempting to reduce class sizes. He felt these households should do the same, thereby eliminating the need for a conditional use permit, since up to six persons may reside in a boarding house without a conditional use permit. As no one else wished to speak, the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Pressutti asked for guidance from the City Attorney with regard to finding No. 1. Mr. Lindberg cited as an example a conditional use permit application in another city for extension of a cemetery, where the surrounding residents were strongly opposed. It was found, however, that this did contribute to a need of the community. He pointed out that the initial finding should be considered in conjunction with the second finding of whether or not it will have a detrimental effect upon the neighbors. A use which makes a contribution to the community could~@ossib}ybe better located in one area than another due to the surroundings. He felt the question for the Commission to determine is whether there is a need for housing for persons who are not living in the traditional family style, and if so, where such use can be located without detriment to surrounding residents. Commissioner Rudolph expressed the opinion the question to be determined is whether a boarding house can suitably, be located at this site, without giving consideration to the type of lifestyle of the persons who will reside in the boarding house. Commissioner Floto reported that he cannot make the affirmative finding that this use is necessary or desirable for the community. Commissioner Starr felt the Commission should deal with the external operation of the use and immediate neighbors to such households have testified they have not been a detriment. Commissioner Pressutti advised for the record that he is not advocating this lifestyle, but feels the development for the property is better than the one previously approved for this location. MS (Pressutti-Rudolph) The revised plan under conditional use permit PCC-75-17 for a boarding house for 21 persons as shown on Exhibits A & B in the staff report be approved, subject to the conditions as listed in the report and based on the findings as stated in the report. The motion carried by the following vote: AYES: Commissioners Pressutti, Rudolph, Chandler and Starr NOES: Commissioners Floto, Smith, and Johnson - -13- -- December 8, 1975 DIRECTOR'S REPORT Director of Planning Peterson advised that the staff has no urgent item for discussion at the study session regularly scheduled for the following Monday, December 15, and asked the Commission's desire with regard to cancelling the meeting. The Commission concurred with cancelling the study session. COMMISSION COMMENTS Commissioner Rudolph requested that a future study session deal with the relationship of the Housing Element to the approval of development proposals. She also commented on the letter from the City Manager concerning Block Grant Funds and asked if the Commission should consider this. ADJOURNMENT The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 10:30 p.m. Respectfu 1 ly submitted, Helen Mapes, Secretary