HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1973/09/19 MINUTES OF A REGULAR WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
September 19, 1973
The regular workshop meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista,
California was held on the above date beginning at 5:00 p.m. with the following
members present: Macevicz, Whitten, Chandler, Rice, Rudolph, Swanson and
Wilson. Also present: Director of Planning Peterson, Assistant Director of
Planning Williams, Legal Intern Beam, Assistant Planner Yamagata and Acting
Secretary Scholl.
1. Consideration of the Draft of the Open Space Element of the General Plan
Director of Planning Peterson observed that the main purpose of considering
the draft of the Open Space and Conservation Elements was for the Commission
to offer comments to the staff on the draft elements; the formal public hearing
on the two elements would be scheduled for October 17, 1973. Under State law
both elements are expected to be adopted by December 31, 1973.
Assistant Director of Planning Williams reviewed the draft Open Space Element
and pointed out on a map the inventory of existing open spaces which includes
city and regional parks, golf courses, publicly owned water areas, major utility
easements, schools, cemeteries, salt marsh and mudflats, the Civic Center and
other privately owned open space.
Chairman Macevicz suggested it might be well to review some of the conservation
efforts made by the people in the strip mining areas in the East.
Commissioner Rice agreed, mentioning that abandoned strip mining coal operation
areas in Illinois have been converted into highly desirable estate type home
sites, with marinas and connecting waterways. He pointed out that the same
kind of development might be considered for the Valley when sand and gravel
deposits have been worked out and the sites fill with water; the waterway might
possibly extend even to the Bayfront some day.
Commissioner Chandler reminded that it is flood plain, and flood control must
be a consideration.
Commissioner Rice replied that the waterway itself might serve as a floodway.
Commissioner Rudolph wondered how the City's plan might be coordinated with
the County plan and the Comprehensive Planning Organization's plan.
Planning Director Peterson recalled that the County's open space study had been
rejected by the Board of Supervisors and returned to the staff for further
study.
Assistant Director Williams noted that the proposals in the City's plan are
basically compatible with those in the CPO's, and the two flood plains and
the agricultural land to the east is the only Chula Vista area open space
actually shown in the CPO plan.
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Co~issioner Whitten asked if long-range open space projections might be made
on properties within the City's sphere of influence, or would it be necessary
to reserve such planning until property is annexed?
Director of Planning Peterson acknowledged the need for looking toward expansion
of the historic planning area for the City of Chula Vista to coincide with the
City's sphere of influence as indicated to the City of San Diego. However, much
staff time and effort goes into the definition of open space boundaries, and in
order to make the best use of the staff it is necessary to wait until develop-
ment is proposed for property. At that time the staff would be in a position
to recommend what portions of a property should be reserved for open space. Of
course, lands contemplated for purchase by the City should be acquired as far
in advance as possible.
Assistant Director Williams remarked that when there is a major revision in
the General Plan further open space areas could be designated; the Open Space
Element is consistent with the present General Plan. This plan sets all of the
framework, providing necessary information for anyone considering development
in the area.
Commissioner Swanson raised the question: What could the City do if the owners
of ranch property in the County east of Chula Vista decided to build their own
new incorporated municipality?
Assistant Director of Planning Williams observed that establishment of sewer
service might be a natural deterrent. All capacity in the San Diego Metro
S~tem has been purchased and there would have to be excess capacity available
from the City of San Diego in order to buy any.
The Commissioners considered the possibility that capacity might be available
ink, he Spring Valley system, and Commissioner Rice pointed out they might
establish their own municipal treatment plant.
Assistant Director Williams expressed doubt, since building a treatment plant
requires investment of a great amount of money before even starting development;
and given the present water quality control and ecological sensitivities, per-
mission to build a sewage treatment plant is unlikely.
Planning Director Peterson said that other than looking forward to working in
a coordinated fashion with the County and with LAFCO, at this point he could
suggest no further means of handling such a situation.
Commissioner Whitten expressed the opinion that it is not too early to consider
long-range planning for the possibilities of open space and parkland in the
redevelopment of older areas of Chula Vista where no open space now exists,
even though the redevelopment of these areas is not in the immediate future.
Planning Director Peterson remarked that in some other cities, as areas have
grown older and school sites are no long necessary in those locations because
the families living there have no children of school age, the school sites
then become possible park sites.
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Chairman Macevicz referred to the City of San Diego's redevelopment of its
Old Town, how they had purchased the property, moved out hundreds of old
buildings, rebuilt the industrial area to precise plan, and resold the sites
to private owners. He was not sure how they had set up their own urban renew~
project, but believed it had been accomplished with Federal funds.
Director of Planning Peterson said he did not believe Federal funds were still
available for that purpose.
Assistant Director Williams thought the State provided funds for redevelopment,
but there are rigid qualifications for procuring them.
Commissioner Rice commented that much land is still vacant along the southerly
boundary of the City, either in the City or adjacent to it, and it might be
an appropriate time to indicate potential open space there. He wondered if
perhaps the City and County could participate in a joint plan.
Assistant Director Williams thought the Park Plan Element might be a more
appropriate place to include that. Much of the vacant land is in areas near
or adjoining commercial development and is all being held for commercial uses,
even where industrially zoned. From a financial aspect, such property is very
difficult to acquire for park land.
Chairman Macevicz suggested the possibility of the owners bequeathing a few
acres to the City for a park, and believed the City should publicize and en-
courage the making of such bequests.
Commissioner Rice mentioned property owners negotiating an exchange of property
with the City or an exchange of property for open space or park land for a
City service, such as preparation of terrain. He referred to a recent attempt
by people in the Montgomery area to organize a park assessment district, so it
is obvious they recognize their need for open space.
Commissioner Whitten felt that the City must take a very strong approach to
land and how it will affect mankind. He believes everyone does not have the
intrinsic right to develop land for the highest financial reward without regard
for the living environment which is created, a'nd strong and perhaps imaginative
pressures must be used by the City to produce desirable living conditions. It
may take some kind of legislative force, or it may take court action, and it
may cost the City some money, but in the long run the money will be well spent
to achieve this.
Chairman Macevicz called attention to vacant land near the San Diego Gas &
Electric Company yard at Hilltop Drive and Main Street where it might be pos-
sible to get people interested in some kind of joint open space development.
Commissioner Rudolph offered some comments and suggestions on the Open Space
Element, which are as follows:
The element is too general. It needs to be more specific to guide the
Commission and the Council in making decisions: which agricultural lands,
which canyons, flood plains, historic sites, and where and how much and
by what criteria urban space shall be preserved?
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Objectives for urban form could be:
a) Large open space lands are to be interconnected.
b) Wide, continuous open space shall be preserved on the perimeter
of the planning area to define the city and to prevent urban
sprawl. The ideal width should be stated.
c) All citizens shall be within walking distance of large open space,
say, within half a mile.
d) Neighborhoods shall be no larger than, a specified diameter, and
shall be surrounded by open space to define neighborhoods and
provide accessibility to all citizens to large open space.
e) Each neighborhood shall contain a central open area, or commons,
which will be the focal center of the community and contain green
space, children's play area and, immediately beyond its perimeter,
limited, walk-to commercial facilities shall be allowed.
Additional objectives might be utilization of utility easements:
a) SDG&E power line easements.
b) Cal-Am hilltop water tank sites. (The tanks can be protected; just
open the space around them for the neighbors.)
Other than by park fees and planned developments, the element offers no
suggestions about how open space will be preserved, zoned, financed.
~nventory of Existin§ Open Space Areas (p. 2)
Are schools and the Civic Center open space? It seems to me they are
urban uses.
Implementation Program (p. 6)
#16. The Sedway/Cooke Bayfront Plan will provide parks and access to all
shorelines on the bayfront.
#17. Recognizing the Bay itself as a large open space, efforts will be
made to minimize filling in the bay and to minimize visual dis-
ruptions to the bay.
Implementation
"The increased values of urban land and potentially developable land not
included ~n the open,space plan were found to approximate the loss in values
of the open space landS, thus preserving total region-wide land values."
This suggests that with any given population, population growth rate, and
state of the economy, the pressures for development are the same, and the
amount of money available to purchase space for development are the same
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regardless of the amount of land available for development.
This suggests some procedures to be applied in preserving open space to
ensure fairness to the land owners, the developers, and to the taxpayers,
(who see their hard-earned tax dollars for public improvements result in
sharply rising prices for the lands that benefit.) (Railroads in the
19th century.)
1. Development rights. It is the PUD concept applied area-wide.
2. Unearned increment. A transfer tax could, by being used to purchase
open space, return to these owners the profits realized by develop-
able land because of the removal of open space lands from the
private market.
Chairman Macevicz pointed out that water tank sites are usually posted and
their boundaries fenced because of the possibility of contamination, vandalism
or sabotage.
Commissioner Whitten asked about the ideal percentage of open space to inhabited
space, and Commissioner Rice inquired how Chula Vista compares with other
municipalities in terms of open space?
Director of Planning Peterson replied that guidelines set up by the National
Recreational Association attempt to formulate an acceptable percentage, which
is fairly specific in the case of parkland but not well defined on open space
in general. The requirements of the Chula Vista Park Dedication Ordinance are
on the low side and should probably be increased. One yardstick for determin-
ing the amount of open space would be that required by the Hillside Develop-
ment Ordinance.
Commissioner Rudolph wondered how the Open Space Element works to shape urban
form and if criteria might be listed for the Commission to use as guidelines
rather than trying to define areas on a map.
Assistant Director Williams thought it was related to the Hillside Development
Ordinance. With the existing General Plan the urban form is rather nondescript;
but, if in revising the General Plan, the central business district and the
areas around the major shopping centers are emphasized, and consideration given
to not only the horizontal shape, but to the vertical shape, then form elements
in terms of open space can be added to it.
Commissioner Swanson suggested that many privately owned areas which are
topographically impracticable for development could be made into mini-park
areas by the City, at some expense, of course, and the owners might be happy
to get them off the tax rolls.
Chairman Macevicz agreed and pointed out that here is where property might be
bequeathed to the City, even if it meant cutting off a lot where it starts
downhill or is otherwise inaccessible.
Commissioner Whitten commented there are areas in some of the existing parks
which might be made more available to the public. He also thought the Draft
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Open Space Element rather idealistic and provided no real basis for doing
anything.
Assistant Director Williams replied that basically the items listed under the
implementation section are the means presently available for implementing this
plan. Some of the open space will be acquired through the Hillside Develop-
ment Ordinance, if this is adopted, and other open space through the Parkland
Dedication Ordinance. Some of it obviously is not in the City of Chula Vista
and will be acquired by the Regional Park Plan of the County; some of it is
already in public ownership. One of the most critical plans for acquisition
of open space will be the Seismic Safety Element of the General Plan, because
once hazard areas are identified, they can probably be added to the open space
program. Where an area is potentially subject to extreme liquifaction in an
earthquake, a Hazard zone is likely to be imposed. Then it would require a
very great amount of money for development or there will probably be tax relief
proposals which will allow it to become open space.
2. Consideration of the Draft of the Conservation Element of the General Plan
Director of Planning Peterson commented he believed the Draft of the Conserva-
tion Element was fairly self-explanatory. In evaluating it, he finds that
other than mineral resources of sand and gravel and some sensitive ecological
areas such as the Sweetwater Marsh, Chula Vista has little else in the way of
resources to conserve.
Commissioner Rudolph expressed concern about losing agricultural land to
urbanization and quoted from the California Tomorrow Plan:
"Two-thirds of all sea life is dependent on coastal estuaries. Two-thirds
of California's estuaries have been destroyed by development. Of those
that remain, another 42% are destined for destruction by the year 2000.
Freeways planned for the coast will accelerate this process." (p.12)
"...each year California loses 60,000 acre-feet of topsoil as a con-
sequence of clear-cut logging, forest fires, cuts and fills from housing
and road construction, and bad farming practices.
Extensive irrigation has caused a buildup of salts in the soils of the
San Joaquin and Imperial Valleys. As a result, millions of acres of
productive land are threatened.
Originally, California had 8.7 million acres of prime agricultural land.
Over two million acres of this land have already been urbanized. By 1980
almost one million additional acres will be subdivided, making a total
loss of about one-third of our best agricultural land." (p. 1)
Talking about how it will be in California Two: "Land should be taxed
according to its zoning category." "Buyers of raw land are no longer
able to take the capital gains benefit on their profits when they sell."
Mrs. Rudolph then referred to notes which she would supply to staff. For the
Commission's information, the major points are presented below.
Since the United States and world population is growing rapidly and since
affluence is rising in many foreign countries, thereby escalating world
demand for food, and since worldwide most arable, non-marginal land is
already in production and the green revolution has failed to meet its
objectives, and since agricultural lands are being lost to soil depletion
and to development, and particularly since the U.S. has this year seen
the forerunner of the results of world food shortages, it is critical
that every effort be made to preserve in agriculture all prime agricul-
tural lands.
Agricultural lands thus retained will also provide shape to urban form,
provide permanent breathing space as part of the city's open space system,
and keep a more natural landscape close to the citizens of the city, and
especially their children, as well as contribute to the economy of the
area. (p. 2)
Item 13 on page 5 of the Open Space Element specifies the Natural Resource
Overlay Zone. Perhaps it should be mentioned in this element also.
On page 3, under Water Bodies, should the marsh and floodways be d~scussed
inasmuch as they are on the map?
When the Conservation and Open Space maps are combined, with the addition
of other relevant maps -- parks, seismic -- the City should be studied to
determine:
1. Areas which must not be converted to urban uses.
2. Locations for an open space network which shape urban form, which
frame neighborhoods and link together the open spaces. (Attention
will be paid to children's walking routes, hiking and walking paths,
separated bicycle and equestrian paths.)
On page 6 (Policies),"Support .... new legislation:" legislation should be
initiated and pressure should be applied to get it passed to accomplish
the objectives.
Pressure the State to rapidly research and adopt a policy and land use map
to identify those lands which should be kept in agriculture to avoid
shortages of agricultural land and its products for future generations.
Pressure the State to rapidly research and enact new legislation which
will give local governments the tools which they need to ensure that
valuable agricultural lands will not be lost, and that will provide
fairness to the land owner and the taxpayer and economic viability to
the farmer.
Pressures that can be used:
Contact the city's state legislative delegation to outline the
needs and suggest necessary legislation.