HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1971/01/25 MINUTES OF A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
January 25, 1971
The regular adjourned meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista,
California, was held on the above date beginning at 7 p.m. with the following
members present: Rice, Stewart, Adams, Chandler, Macevicz, James and Hillson.
Also present: Director of Planning Warren, Senior Planner Williams, Associate
Planner Lee and City Attorney Lindberg.
Chairman Rice led the pledge of allegiance to the flag, followed by a moment
of silent prayer.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC (Chandler-James) Approval of the minutes of the meeting of January 18,
1971, as mailed.
Request for deferral of public improvements - California Auto Wreckers, 248 West Bay Blvd.
Director of Planning Warren reported that it has again been requested that
this matter be deferred, this time to the meeting of February 1; the staff
has no objection to this.
MSUC (Stewart-James) Request for deferral of public improvements at 248 West
Bay Blvd. be postponed to the meeting of February l, 1971.
Request for approval of sign - Home Fair, Fifth and H Street, Pacific Sign Co.
Director of Planning Warren discussed the request for approval of a 50' high
freestanding pole sign at the shopping center site at Fifth and H. This
request is occasioned by a change in the business from the former Big Apple
discount store to the Home Fair which will feature home furnishings. Mr. Warren
reviewed the former requests for signs at this site, which include a freestanding
sign of 112 sq. ft. for Kentucky Beef, which was granted on an appeal to the
City Council.
Mr. Warren acknowledged the problems of this store due to the site layout but
advised that the staff could not find justification for a second freestanding
sign at the location but suggested this sign might be permitted as a replacement
for the Kentucky Beef freestanding sign.
Mr. Warren also referred to renderings submitted by Pacific Sign Company for
an extension of the store parapet with a wall sign to be attached thereon. He
indicated the applicant apparently wishes to discuss the proposed signing.
Julius Kahn, president of the developing firm, spoke of their urgent need for
this identification sign and commented that he could not visualize getting
Kentucky Beef to take down their sign. Mr. Kahn spoke of problems they have
had with the discount store, first due to the closing of the Mexican border,
and then to competition from K-Mart and the new White Front store. In changing
the store to Home Fair they are changing the decor on the outside and remodeling
the inside for the sale of furniture and carpeting. They will continue to handle
ladies and men's ready to wear but will discontinue discount items. He stressed
the need for an identification sign prior to the opening of this new store in
March and asked for the Commission's help.
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Chairman Rice commented that while he respects Mr. Kahn's honesty, he did not
feel the Commission could justify an additional freestanding sign on this
site. He indicated he could possibly lean toward one of the renderings of a
store front sign.
It was felt the Commission should determine their feelings concerning the
freestanding sign and if this request was not approved they could discuss
alternatives.
MSUC (Adams-Macevicz) Request for a freestanding pole sign for the Home Fair
be denied.
Fran Burger discussed three renderings displayed for wall signs. Two of these
consisted of a false front to the building extending above the present roof
line with channel letters, individually lighted, spelling out the name Home
Fair. The third sign merely contained the letters set between two posts. He
contended the signs attached to the false front were more attractive and more
in keeping with the area, and that this addition should not be considered
background of the sign and only the lettering should be measured in deter-
mining the total area of the sign.
Chairman Rice suggested that this matter be referred back to the staff to see
if they could work out something with the applicant to make the signage in
conformance with the ordinance and more compatible with the area.
MSUC (Chandler-Adams) The question of a sign for the Home Fair store be
referred to the staff to be resolved or brought back to the Commission if
necessary.
PUBLIC HEARING (Cont.) - Various amendments to Zoning Ordinance
Director of Planning Warren reminded the Commission this hearing was opened
at the last meeting (Jan. 18) and the sections up to the R-3 zone were
discussed before it was decided to continue the hearing to this meeting.
City Attorney Lindberg commented that the determination of the Commission and
its recommendation to the Council should be as to substance and the staff
should be permitted to refine or change the language so long as it did not
change the substance, before the presentation to the Council.
At 7:40 p.m. the City Attorney left the meeting. He returned momentarily at
8:05, left again, and did not return for the remainder of the meeting.
Chairman Rice declared the public hearing reopened.
Associate Planner Lee reported that a representative from the South Bay
Improvement Association had indicated a desire to discuss the requirement
for level yard area in the R-2-T zone as discussed at the previous meeting.
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Gene York, 280 K Street, representing the South Bay Improvement Association,
asserted that comments which he will make at this meeting are made after
serious deliberation by a lot of people who are interested in the Zoning
Ordinance. In direct answer to the question about level open space in the
R-2 zone, he reported it is the feeling of the Association that there is
little reason to require a different amount of usable level space on an R-2
lot than on any other lot. The Association feels the R-2 zone should be a
density control zone rather than a zone that promotes only duplex type of
housing; it should allow one unit per 3500 square feet of area. They felt
this zone should then permit various types of housing. He pointed out the
P.U.D. is not applicable to small lots. If a developer has 10 acres, or
20 or 50 acres, then the P.U.D. ordinance is feasible, but the engineering
and subdivision requirements that are necessary preclude the use of this for
small parcels of land. Something is needed which allows this flexibility
without the red tape of filing for a P.U.D. In the event the Commission does
not desire to make the R-2 zone a density control zone only, then in the R-3
zone there should be a Zone similar to the R-2 density which would allow a
different type of multi-family development.
Mr. York also raised objection to the requirement for a lot width of 30 feet
for all lots developed with single car garages and 40 feet for lots developed
with 2-car garages; and also to the requirement that a minimum of 50% of the
garages shall be 2-car. He contended both of these provisions completely
nullify any flexibility.
Further concerning the requirement that the 10' side yard and 15' rear yard
in the R-2-T zone shall be level, Mr. York reiterated that the Association
feels this is unnecessary and discriminatory to this particular zone, not
even required in an R-1 zone.
In response to these statements, Associate Planner Lee pointed out with
reference to the R-2-T zone, the requirement for this minimum level area is
due to the fact that the lot is considerably less than the standard lot for
a single family dwelling, being only 3500 square feet, the orientation of
the living area is to the side yard, and this should be primarily a level
area to be usable since it is so limited in size. He felt the only other
alternative would be to eliminate provision for the split duplex. He
further commented that the question of the 30' and 40' lots, as well as the
50% minimum for 2-car garages, could be eliminated by going back to all 40'
wide lots and to 2-car garages for all units. This provision was written in
to the proposed changes of the ordinance because the Commission had recognized
the need for a certain percentage of the garages to be less than 2-car with a
recognition of tandem parking. The staff was attempting to take care of
~roblems that had arisen in the past and to give the developers some flexibility
tn their lot size. If this is not the desire of the Commission, he would
recommend the adoption of the standard 40' wide lot and require 2-car garages
for all units.
Member Stewart commented that the requirement for a minimum of 50% 2-car
garages was put in as a compromise in an attempt to accommodate families
who had two cars and allow the developer some flexibility to develop some
units with smaller garages. He felt it was impossible to determine whether
50% was the right figure but that revisions to the Zoning Ordinance should not
be held up for a longer time to determine the most desirable percentage.
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Associate Planner Lee continued presentation of the proposed changes, pointing
out that in Section 33.505, R-3 zone, the essential change is the addition of
the R-3-M classification for density control, allowing one unit per 2,000 sq.
ft. of area. Also proposed is a change in side and rear yard requirements
which shall be increased for structures over one story in height, and this
increase shall be to a minimum of 15' when adjacent to an R-l, R-E or R-2 zone.
Also added is a section covering open space requirements and a definition of
areas which contribute to usable open SpaCe.
Gene York spoke with reference to the increase in side yard in the R-3 zone
where it abuts an R-1 zone. tie stated the Association suggests eliminating
the sentence, which reads, "Exception - when adjacent to an R-l, R-E and R-2
zone the side yard setback shall be increased to 15' for any structure over
one story or 15' in height, with an additional 2' setback required for each
story above 25' in height," and substitute there for the sentence, "No second
story balcony may be within 15' of any R-1 zone." He contended that the
increased side yard would make 50' wide lots undevelopable except for single
family dwellings.
Concerning the requirement of open space per dwelling unit, Mr. York felt the
square footage should be reduced or change the manner of computing open space.
He was not, however, prepared to give a firm proposal as to what the square footage
of open space per dwelling unit should be. He further objected to the minimum
dimension of 6 feet for an area to be considered usable open space.
Mr. York also raised objection to the administrative directive to require
submission of landscaping and sprinkler plans with the application for a building
permit rather than requiring these plans upon rough electrical inspection.
Member Adams raised the question about permitting duplexes in the R-3 zone.
Mr. Lee pointed out this refers to a type of housing, which is a two-family
structure. This zone does not permit developments as covered by the R-2-T zone
wherein attached dwellings are sold separately and result in a 3500 square
foot lot.
The Commission discussed the advisability of having the staff review the
recommendations of the South Bay Improvement Association and make such
adjustments in the proposed changes which seem in the best interest of the
ordinance and then report to the Commission.
Mr. Lee advised that the staff comments did include the changes suggested
by the Association which the staff felt were in keeping with the intent of
the ordinance, and any additional changes must be up to the Commission.
In Section 33.506, C-O Zone, the addition of prescription pharmacies as a
principal permitted use is recommended. The change in this section deals
with signs and includes the revision of wall sign provisions and the addition
of a freestanding pole sign being allowed if a business or property is
located on a major or collector street. Mr. Lee reported that in the
paragraph which refers to the 1967 edition of the Uniform Building Code, the
South Bay Improvement Association suggested that this be changed to "the latest
adopted edition of the Uniform Building Code." The staff agrees with this
change. The requirement for a zoning wall was also added to this section.
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There were no comments from the floor concerning this section.
In Section 33.507, C-B Zone, an addition ~vas made to include knitting and
weaving shops as a conditional use. Other changes were merely for clarification
and the inclusion of the zoning wall.
Mr. York pointed out that under height regulations in which it states 3-1/2
stories or 35 feet, this should be changed to 45 feet to be consistent with
other sections of the ordinance.
In Section 33.508, C-N Zone, the only substantial change was the addition of
the requirement for a zoning wall.
There were no comments from the floor on this section.
In Section 33.509, C~C Zone, veterinarian clinics were added as a conditional
use subject to the provisions of a specific section which defines the requirements.
Zoning wall requirements were also added.
There were no comments from the floor on this section.
In Section 33.510, C-V Zone, revisions include deletion of dance studio and
plant nursery, the addition of buildings above 3-1/2 stories subject to a conditional
use permit and the addition of the zoning wall.
There were no comments concerning this section.
In Section 33.511, C-T Zone, revisions included the addition of knitting and
weaving shops, building heights in excess of 3-1/2 stories by conditional use
permit and the requirement of a zoning wall.
In Section 33.512, I-R Zone, and Section 33.513, I-L Zone, the only addition
was the requirement of a zoning wall.
There were no comments concerning this addition.
In Section 33.514, I Zone, included the additon of a zoning wall requirement
and change in side setback from 10' to 0 and rear setback from 50' to O. In
the industrial zone it is found that requiring this setback is a waste of land
use.
There were no comments concerning this change.
In Section 33.535, Unclassified Uses, included the addition of shooting clubs.
Gene York commented on the existing ordinance which under this section states
that mobile home parks are excluded from all commercial and industrial zones,
that the Association feel that mobile home parks are a good interim use on land
zoned for future industrial or commercial development. In many cases land is
zoned for commercial and industrial many years in advance of use in order
to reserve these areas. The only interim use there is for this land at the
presen~ time is agricultural use. Mr. York contended that as the land is
developed industrially or commercially, land values rise which makes it
economically feasible to use it for a mobile home park since the comparatively
low development cost can be written off after l0 or 15 years.
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He stated the City of San Diego is encouraging mobile home parks as an interim
use and he would like to recommend this for our zoning ordinance.
Associate Planner Lee reminded that the City is presently trying to phase out
a mobile home park on the west side of Interstate 5 which is in the middle of an
industrial area. One of the pmoblems is the type of environment in this zone;
recognizing that i~ is a community somewhat contained within the mobile home
park, the surrounding area is not conducive to residential atmosphere due to
truck traffic and noise. For this reason the staff feels a mobile home park
is a residential use and it creates problems to put this type of use into an
industrial area even for an interim period, and if it is to be 15 years that
is quite a long time to live in that particular atmosphere.
In Section 33.601, Modifying Districts, there were no major changes to the
ordinance.
In Section 33.602, Planned Unit Development, the R-l-5 was added under density
provisions.
Changes in Sections 33.701 and 33.702 were only for clarification.
Concerning Section 33.703, dangerous and objectionable elements, Mr. York
commented that the provisions concerning glare should be coordinated with the
new lighting ordinance when it is adopted. The Improvement Association has
gone on record that the lighting ordinance should be a part of the zoning
ordinance.
In Section 33.803, off-street parking, changes include the addition of a
minimum dimension of 20 feet for a two-car garage enclosed, clarification
of garage setbacks and the additional requirement of 40 sq. ft. of storage
space for a one-car garage conversion.
Mr. York commented that the Associaton believes the new requirement of a
minimum dimension of 20 feet for a garage is excessive of need and should be
reduced to 18 feet.
In Section 33.901, special provisions, Mr. Lee pointed out the provisions
for a zoning wall had been removed from this section since it is now
included in all zones, sign provisions were removed from automobile car
wash requirements since they are covered under the section covering sign
ordinance. A provision for fences, walls and hedges has been added which
would permit the Zoning Administrator to approve such wall, fence or
hedge in the required front and exterior side yard setbacks on a corner lot.
The provisions give the requirements which such a wall would have to meet.
This is done to eliminate having numerous variance requests come to the Planning
Commission.
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Specifications for a precise plan have been added, and a further definition
of where service stations may belocated without the requirement of a conditional
use permit.
Member Adams commented that he felt service stations should be made subject to a
conditional use permit. All Commissioners expressed their agreement with this
suggestion.
Mr. Lee affirmed this can be included in the recommendation to the City Council.
Mr. Lee continued with an explanation of proposed changes pointing out that item
30 contains the specific requirements of a site plan; trash storage requirements
have been revised to take into consideration certain types of wooden enclosures
which may be used, and item 36 lists specifications for a zoning wall.
Gene York commented that basically the Association is in agreement with the
need for a zoning wall under certain circumstances; the only revision the
Association ~ould like to see is to put the burden of requiring the wall on
the Zoning Administrator or the Commission in the event it is felt necessary,
as opposed to what the ordinance does in putting the burden on the developer by
stating it shall be erected, and then including an escape clause whereby
it "may be waived." Their specific request is that the wording "shall be
erected" be changed to "may be required," and in the last sentence change
the wording "may be waived" to "may be required if the Zoning Administrator
finds it is necessary for screening and protection of adjacent property."
Director of Planning Warren commented that in the past a wall has been
required where it was felt necessary under site plan review. In one instance
it was not required and the Council felt it should have been. Mr. Warren
expressed agreement with Mr. York that it should be permissive and it should
be analyzed like other features. As a general rule he felt there should be
a wall between commercial and residential development but it should not be
an inflexible rule. He added that this requirement was put in because the
staff felt it was directed by the City Council.
Mr. York expressed his regret that the City Attorney was not present as he
felt this was getting into a legal interpretation. He felt that if it was
directed by the City Council that a zoning wall be a mandatory requirement
there is no place for the last sentence which indicates the wa~l may be
waived. If it is not mandatory he felt the ordinance should state "may be
required."
Chairman Rice questioned whether this particular requirement should be taken
to the Council to see if they would allow more flexibility.
Mr. Warren pointed out that this body should make recommendations as they believe
are proper-first the staff and then the Commission, and if the Council wants to
change it that is fine. The Commission expressed concurrence with this point of
view.
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Section 33.950, special provisions applying to signs, it was pointed out by
Mr. Lee, is simply a consolidation of sign requirements into one section
rather than enumerating them in each section.
There were no comments concerning this section.
Section 33.1001 contains a revision to the provisions for lots of record -
the biggest addition being the note that bay windows, balconies and stairs
extending above the first floor may not project into any required yard. This
section also sets up a procedure for building on lots altered by condemnation.
Section 33.1102, includes the addition of a requirement of fencing for non-
conforming uses; it also includes provisions allowing the Zoning Administrator to
approve non-conforming structures.
Section 33.1313, site plan and architectural approval, adds landscaping
requirements.
Section 33.1401 includes additions to definitions of terms used in the Zoning
Ordinance.
Gene York commented with reference to Section 33.1001, concerning projection
into required yards, with specific reference to "Bay windows, balconies, and
stairs extending above the first floor may not project into any required yard."
He agreed that under certain circumstances these should not be allow to
extend into required side yards but only if these side yards "are what we
consider to be reasonable." He added that if present side yards are maintained and
the provision discussed previously prohibitin9 balconies from being within 15'
of R-1 zoned property this would be acceptable. However, he felt it is not good
zoning practice to not allow a balcony in any required yard in any zone. He
felt the requirement should state "if abutting an R-1 zone," and that it should
not apply to adjoining R-3 properties, or when overlooking a shopping center.
Nor did he feel it made sense to prohibit a balcony from projecting 2' into
a 20' front yard or a 15' or 20' rear yard.
Mr. Warren commented that this possibly deserves some further study and if the
Commission thinks it appropriate he would suggest reevaluating that particular
statement.
In discussion tile Commission concurred that the staff should study the comments
made during the hearing and make the changes they feel are proper, and on those
points where there is a difference of opinion the question should be put to the
Commission.
Mr. Warren stated this could be presented to the Commission at the second meeting
in February.
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DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Mr. Warren asked for confirmation of March 8 for a meeting with the League
of Women Voters.
Member Macevicz objected to such a meeting stating it is setting a dangerous
precedent where the Commission will be requested to meet with each little
group at a special meeting.
Chairman Rice pointed out that in 4-1/2 years that he has been on the Commission
this is the first or second time such a request hasbeen made and he felt it
should be granted. Member Stewart expressed agreement.
On a show of hands requested by Chairman Rice, five members indicated they
favored meeting with the League of Women Voters as requested. Members
Macevicz and Adams dissented.
Director of Planning Warren confirmed a workshop dinner meeting to be held at
6 p.m. on February 8 at Christies.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Rice reported on the time the City Attorney left the meeting and asked
this to be recorded in tile minutes.
ADJOURNMENT
Tile meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Helen S. Mapes, Secret~fy
Chula Vista Planning Commission