HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1971/07/26 MINUTES OF A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
July 26, 1971
The regular adjourned meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista,
California, was held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. with the following
members present: Rice, Adams, Chandler, Macevicz and Hillson. Absent (with
previous notification): Members Stewart and James. Also present: Director of
Planning Warren, Senior Planner Williams, Associate Planner Lee, Director of
Public Works Cole and Engineer Gesley.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Member Adams requested that a correction be made to the minutes of July 6, 1971
under Commission Comments to indicate that Member Stewart, as well as the City
Attorney and Member Chandler, expressed concurrence with the comment made by
Member Adams concerning newspaper article regarding the Environmental Control
Commission.
MSUC (Chandler-Hillson) Approval of the minutes of July 6 as corrected by
Member Adams and approval of the minutes of July 19 as mailed.
SUBDIVISION: Tentative Map of E1 Rancho del Rey Unit 2
Associate Planner Lee pointed out the necessity of deferring consideration of
this tentative map until the tentative map for Unit 1 has been approved. It
is recommended that this item be continued to the meeting of August 2.
MSUC (Chandler-Macevicz) Consideration of tentative map for E1 Rancho del Rey
Unit 2 be deferred to the meeting of August 2, 1971.
PUBLIC HEARING (Cont.): PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT - Zenith II, American
Housing Guild
Director of Planning Warren reported that the City Council has not yet completed
negotiations for the exchange of land between the City and American Housing
Guild, and the applicant has requested that this matter be continued to the
meeting of August 2. The residents in the area who have expressed an interest
in this public hearing have been advised of the delays which have been granted
by the Commission.
MSUC (Macevicz-Adams) The public hearing on the application for Planned Unit
Development for Zenith II be continued to the meeting of August 2, 1971.
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PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE - Northeast corner Otay Valley Road and Brandywine
Avenue~ Offsite advertising sign for Brandywin~ Subdivision -
MiSsion Industries
Associate Planner Lee indicated the location of the Brandywine subdivision
approximately 1300 feet north of Otay Valley Road; the application for variance
filed by Mission Industries is for an 8' X 20' sign, 14' high, to direct traffic
to this subdivision. The Zoning Ordinance permits offsite directional signs
4~ sq. ft. in area for subdivisions in addition to onsite identification signs.
The staff feels that a sign of the size proposed would be an advertising rather
than a directional sign and recommends denial of the request.
Mr. Lee further advised that in a phone conversation with the Project Manager
for the development this afternoon, Mr. Richard had indicated that he was not
in favor of requesting a sign that would not be in keeping with the Zoning
Ordinance of the City.
Mr. Lee provided photos to the Commission showing existing subdivision signs
along Otay Valley Road which included a large sign for Brandywine located on
property that was in the County when the sign was erected but has since annexed
to Chula Vista.
Director of Planning Warren questioned whether the Commission should be consider-
ing a sign if it has not been requested by the developer. The City Attorney was
called to the meeting for an opinion on this matter.
Assistant City Attorney Blick advised the legality of the application would
depend upon the extent of the developer's interest in the request. He would
have to check into this before he could give a definite opinion and this would
necessitate a continuation of the hearing.
Mike Pack, 7255 Alvarado Road, La Mesa, stated that he is the lease manager for
Mission Industries and is the agent for AVCO Community Developers and that this
was the first he had heard that the developer was not interested in obtaining
the sign as they had instructed the sign company to make application to erect
the sign. Prior to n~king the application Mr. Pack had not been aware that this
would be an offsite sign.
Assistant City Attorney Blick recommended a continuation on this matter in order
to get a clarification of the developer's wishes.
MSUC (Adams-Macevicz) The public hearing for a variance for an offsite sign at
the northeast corner of Otay Valley Road and Brandywine Avenue be continued to
the meeting of August 2, 1971.
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Request for Home Occupation License, ll9 Quail Drive~ Mrs. W,ilma R. Gilhuber
Associate Planner Lee reported this request is for a Home Occupation License to
reupholster furniture at a single family residence in the R-1 zone. The ap-
plicant has indicated the intention to reupholster one piece of furniture at a
time in the garage and an adjoining sewing room. While this might not be ob-
jectionable, it becomes a problem in trying to limit the volume that might be
accomplished in this type of use. Mr. Lee reported that the adjacent residents
had been notified of this request and no written protests have have been
received.
Mrs. Wilma Gilhuber, 119 Quail Drive, confirmed that she would be working on
only one piece at a time due to the limited space, that no items would be
stored outside and that all work would be done in an enclosed area. She re-
ported that none of the neighbors had expressed protest to her and she felt
they would like her to do their furniture.
Kathryn Moore, 1134 Tobias Drive, spoke in favor of granting this request,
pointing out that a neighbor of hers on Tobias Drive has been doing this type
of work in her home for 20 years and it has not been a nuisance or detriment to
the neighborhood.
The Commission questioned the possibility of limiting this type of occupation.
Director of Planning Warren advised that approval could be subject to review
and that anytime a home occupation becomes a nuisance in the neighborhood the
license can be revoked.
Member Adams expressed his opinion this is not a suitable activity for a
residence.
Member Hillson favored granting the request for a home occupation license, point-
ing out this is the only way one can start such a business and if the volume of
work increased it would be necessary to move the operation to a different area.
MSC (Hillson-Chandler) Approval of the request for a Home Occupation License
at ll9 Quail Drive.
The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Members Hillson, Chandler and Rice
NOES: Members Adams and Macevicz
ABSENT: Members Stewart and James
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Request for extension of time on Variance 65-35~ 288 F Street, St. John Knits
Associate Planner Lee commented that this variance was originally granted on
July 28, 1969, as a temporary location to knit dresses using hand operated
machines; in 1970 the variance was extended for one year, and the applicant is
again requesting an extension.
Mr. Lee further reported that in October, 1969, another variance was granted on
the subject property for the construction of a high rise senior citizen housing
project. Indications are that this project is in the 1971-72 budget of HUD and
that construction should take place and this would necessitate discontinuance of
St. John Knits operation.
Member Adams objected to an implication in the staff report that the variance
for the high rise should be terminated.
The staff recommends that the variance for St. John Knits be extended for one
year or until the use is discontinued, whichever occurs first.
MSUC (Chandler-Hillson) Approval of an extension of time for a period of one
year or until the use is discontinued, whichever occurs first.
Request for sign approval, 265 Broadway, Midas Muffler Shops
Associate Planner Lee displayed a rendering of the existing freestanding sign
for the Midas Muffler Shops and of the proposed addition of a 3' X 10' panel
placed vertically below the existing sign. The staff feels that the sign
should be redesigned to include the proposed addition in a manner more compatible
with the area and the building. This is an appeal of staff denial of the
sign permit.
Walter Gore, owner of the Midas franchise in Chula Vista, advised that the upper
portion of the sign belongs to the Midas company and is given to him to use as
long as he has the franchise, and the sign itself cannot be altered. Since his
shop performs other work, such as brakes, front end alignment, and tune-up, he
felt this should be included in the sign, and that the sign proposed is within
the provisions of the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Gore presented photos of other signs with "tacked on" additions and ex-
pressed his feeling that his proposed addition would be more pleasing in appear-
ance than many others.
Mr. Warren commented that unfortunately those signs which Mr. Gore had chosen
for comparison are nonconforming under the new ordinance and will be abated in
accordance with provisions of the ordinance.
MSUC (Hillson-Chandler) The proposed addition to the existing sign be denied
and the applicant be advised to redesign the sign if necessary to better accom-
modate the desired messages and eliminate the clutter.
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Discussion and recommendations on Subdivision Ordinanc~
Associate Planner Lee advised that the changes to the proposed Subdivision
Ordinance as suggested by the Commission at a previous hearing and at a workshop
meeting have been enumerated for their review and comment at this hearing.
Rather than go through all of the suggestions he asked for the Commission's com-
ments.
Chairman Rice restated his original objection to the use of "Civil Engineer"
in section 28.203, and requested that it be changed to "registered engineer."
Director of Public Works Cole described the various engineering licenses, the
qualifications and services pertaining to each type of engineer.
Chairman Rice also suggested that section 28.902, sub-section F.3, pertaining
to pedestrian walkways and which states that the minimum requirement shall be
a 6' high chain link fence and landscape screen on each side, should be amended
to give the City the right to require a masonry wall instead of chain link when
it is deemed necessary or advisable.
Associate Planner Lee agreed this requirement could be inserted if guidelines
were included to indicate when this requirement could be made.
Chairman Rice suggested that these guidelines could relate to separation of
land use, a sound barrier, and to preserve an architectural theme.
Associate Planner Lee commented that the only other item on which the staff
needs the Commission's decision is the park dedication: whether this will
become part of the Subdivision Ordinance or whether a separate method is more
equitable. Mr. Lee explained that a property development tax could be estab-
lished under the taxing power of the City. He felt this would be more equitable
as it would apply to all property being developed or improved, not just to
subdivisions.
Members Hillson, Chandler and Rice agreed that a separate ordinance should be
enacted to cover park dedication.
Senior Planner Williams enumerated the three changes discussed at this meeting
on which action should be taken; these include, requirement for block wall,
changing designation of civil engineer to registered engineer, and the recom-
mendation on utilizing the property development tax as opposed to implementing
the Quimby Bill through the Subdivision Act.
It was moved by Member Adams, seconded by Member Chandler, that all three changes
suggested be approved.
Member Macevicz felt these items should be considered under separate actions.
Member Adams withdrew his motion with the consent of Member Chandler.
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MSUC (Adams-Chandler) Approval of the change to permit the City to require
a masonry wall bordering walkways, with guidelines established for such
requirement.
MSUC (Hillson-Adams) Recommend to the City Council the adoption of a Sub-
division Ordinance including the changes listed in the staff comments, and
that a separate ordinance be enacted to establish property development tax
to provide public facilities and services.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Kathryn Moore, 1134 Tobias Drive, speaking for the South Bay Citizens Planning
Committee, extended the support of that committee to the City on the proposed
revisions of the Subdivision Ordinance. With specific attention to Sec. 28.903
covering "Hillside Subdivisions" the committee urges the adoption of a highly
restrictive and specific standard for development of hillside areas. It is felt
the proposed ordinance leaves a great deal unsaid, particularly concerning the
density in the hills, the grading restrictions and the development guidelines.
After adoption of the Subdivision Ordinance the City should continue to develop
a more definitive standard for future inclusion in the ordinance. Concerning
park land dedication, Mrs. Moore contended the developer should see to as re-
quired by the City that the new residents have enough land on which to satisfy
their recreational needs and that the new residents pay for the cost of their
added load on the city. She reported the South Bay Committee would question
the crediting of the developer with land he has provided for private open
space. This policy may lead to closed neighborhood enclaves in the newer
parts of the city. They are opposed to giving any developer credit for park
land which is not open to the general public.
Gene York, 280 K Street, representing South Bay Improvement Association, felt
the developers should be given credit for any private recreational facilities
which are included in a development.
Senior Planner Williams pointed out that under the Quimby Act such credit is
permissive and may be granted at the discretion of the City.
Member Hillson expressed concern over large tracts or developments developing
only private open space or recreational facilities and having no public open
space at all. He felt such a practice would be discriminatory against lower
income people. He would not be in favor of developing private open space in
lieu of public open space.
Associate Planner Lee commented that in most cases the developers have been
quite happy to dedicate open space to the city, thus relieving the homeowners
association of the burden of maintenance.
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Gene York commented that this has been true in the past but he felt they
would be less true in the future. He believed the concept of private owner-
ship of recreational facilities is just beginning to take hold in San Diego.
Mr. York further commented that lack of comment from the South Bay Improvement
Association regarding the changes proposed tonight does not mean they are in
complete accord with the changes but they did not have time to completely
evaluate them in order to come up with comments.
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Helen S. Mapes
Secretary