HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1967/04/17 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF
Chula Vista, California
April 17, 1967
The regular adjourned meeting of the City Planning Commisszon was held
on the above date at 7:00 P.M. in the Council Chamber, Civic Center,
276 Guava Avenue, with the following members present: Stewart, York,
Hyde, Gregson, Rice, Adams, and Guyer. Absent: None. Also present:
Dzrector of Planning Warren, Associate Planner Manganelli, Planning
Draftsman Irish, City Attorney Lindberg, and Assistant City Engineer
Gesley.
STATEMENT
The Secretary hereby states that she did post within 24 hours of ad-
journment, as required by law, the order for the adjourned meeting of
April 3, 1967.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC(Adams-Gregson) Approval of the minutes of April 3, 1967, as mailed~
PUBLIC HEARING (Cont'd) - Proposed C-V Zone and Site Plan Control
Ordinances
Director of Planning noted that this matter has been before the Com-
mission several times and has been continued at the request of in-
terested parties in the audience. Mr. Warren explained that there
are two ordinances in this item: the C-V District serving the needs
of the tourists and involving areas that would house service stations,
motels, restaurants, etc. It would place control over lot coverage,
szgns, etc. The other ordinance covers site plan and architectural
control for the C-1 and C-2 zones.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearmng was
opened~
Mr~ Frank E. Ferreira, 3715 Putter Drive, Bonita, asked that this C-V
zone be deferred because there was no need for it. He stated that
there was only one possible area for the proposed zone in the City
limzts on property he owns and he is not requesting this zoning~
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing
was declared closed.
Member Adams felt the Commission should take action on this matter
tonight - it has been postponed three times. It would be of benefit
to the community as a whole, and nothing has been presented to the
Commission that would negate that consideration. No substantial
ob3ec~zons were heard from the business community, from the developers
or the builders - only a small minority of the community voiced any
objection. This ordinance should be recommended to the Council for
adoption. These same comments apply to the site plan ordinance also.
Member Guyer remarked that he agreed that this C-V zone appears to be
only applicable to the Bonata Road property at the 805 Freeway Inter-
change~
Member York declared that based on the General Plan, it calls for
a timzted area for this C-V zone, and further no emergency for this
ordinance exists. In the absence of adopting the entire proposed
new zoning ordinance, he can see no reason to adopt this ordinance
at this time just to get it on the books.
Chamrman Stewart commented that perhaps at this time; there is no
emergency for it; however, he does not agree that the place shown
on the General Plan as the only area where they can use this ordi-
nance. There could be many other areas. He declared that the Com-
mission should take action on this matter and recommend to the
Council that it be adopted - the Commission has made every suggested
change an the text of the ordinance.
Director Warren stated it was important that the Commission take
action on thas tonight - they can recommend adoption as written,
with modzfacatzon, or file at and bring it back with the new zoning
ordanance~ By separating it from the new zoning ordinance it makes
a great deal of sense. He added that the Commission must be careful
about applyang it to new areas in the City. Adoption of the ordi-
nance as urgent at this time because one of the interchanges in-
volved as becoming a part of Chula Vista, and another annexation is
be~ngprocessed presently for whach the owners will request this
zone. This is a special zone, and the Caty should have it available;
there as no other zone, presently, wath these characteristics. Mr.
Warren poanted out that thas zone is not beang applaed to property
tonight; thls will be the subject of another public hearing after
studies have been conducted. He then discussed the site plan ordi-
nance noning that at the workshop meetings, the Commission had dis-
cussed the possibilaty of eliminating the architectural control
provisaon.
Chaarman Stewart affarmed this, commenting that it would become so
anvolved that special people may be needed to give the Commission
some guidance.
Directoz Warren samd he can see great value in having this architec-
tuzal control in the commercial zones. It is difficult, however,
to admanaster this. Judging from some of the development the City
gets, he feels there as a need for some type of archatectural re-
view~ Without an architectural board, it would be too difficult to
admanlster; the staff would recommend that zt be deleted.
The Chaarman took a poll of the members and they all agreed to delete
this archatectural control from the ordinance~
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Chairman Stewart declared it was desirable to leave it in; however,
the problems of administering it would become to, involved.
MSUC (Guyer-Rlce) Resolution of the City Planning Commission recom-
RESOLUTION NO.464 mending to City Council the adoption of the C-V
(Visitor-Commercial) zone
Findings be as follows:
The General Plan suggests at least five areas with tourist-
commercial potential, and there will be other appropriate
areas as development trends are further delineated.
b~ There is an urgency for the adoption of this Ordinance in order
to preserve for tourist facilities, those areas so designated
on the General Plan and to accommodate the prezoning requests
of certain property owners.
c. Without this C-V zone, which preserves a tourist-oriented com-
plex, the C-1 and C-2 classifications, which permit a broader
range of uses, must be applied and could destroy the tourist
potential of the areas involved.
MSUC (Guyer-Rice) Resolution of the City Planning Commission recom-
RESOLUTION NO. 465 mending to City Council the adoption of an ordi-
nance providing for certain development stand-
ards in commercial zones.
Findings be as follows:
a. This proposed ordinance would set up standards for parking,
height of fences and walls, landscaping, and prevention of ob-
jectionable noises for commercial recreational facilities;
location and lighting standards for golf driving ranges; and
minimum site area and minimum square feet for sleeping units
for motels or motor hotels.
b. The ordinance will also provide for site plan approval of all
uses as provided in Section 33.54.6 through 33.54.10 of the
Zoning Ordinance.
c. The proposed ordinance will assure more compatibility with
adjacent uses and will aid in smoother traffic flow between
private property and public streets.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - Temple Beth Sholom - 208 Madrona - Addition to Church
The application was read in which a request was made to enlarge
the synagogue by constructing a vestibule, rest rooms and class-
rooms.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan, noting the loca-
tion and the proposed addition. The property is presently split
w~th R-1 and R-3 zoning. No offstreet parking has been provided for
this church; however, in their plans, it appears that it would not
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create any additional need for parking. Mr. Warren noted that they
have reached their maximum lot coverage, and in some cases, exceeded
it depending on how you interpret the ordinance.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was
opened.
Mr. Martin Green, past President of the Church, 63 Whitney Street,
discussed the proposed addition and the need for such construction.
Chairman Stewart explained the lot coverage and asked Mr. Green if
there will be any more additions contemplated in the future.
Mr. Green declared they had no increase in the congregation, so
there was no reason to add anything else.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing
was declared closed.
Member York asked if the residents in the area were notified. Mr.
Warren stated they were. Member York favored granting the permit
since there appeared to be no appreciable parking problems.
The Commission discussed the setback line and the proposed construc-
tion. Mr. Warren remarked that the applicant will be observing the
setback line, since he is not requesting a reduction in setback.
MSUC (Hyde-Gregson) Approval of conditional use permit.
Findings are as follows:
a. That the proposed use at the particular location is necessary
or desirable to provide a service or facility which will contri-
bute to the general wellbeing of the neighborhood or the
community.
The use is already located on the property; the applicant
merely wishes to make it a more functional and efficient
facility by the addition of the proposed rooms.
b. That such use will not, under the circumstances of the particular
case, be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of
persons residing or working in the vicinity, or injurious to
property or improvements in the vicinity.
The use will have little effect on the area since some
classroom facilities are already located on the property
without any apparent conflict with the surrounding area.
c. That the proposed use will comply with the regulations and con-
ditions specified in the Code for such use.
Any additions to the existing facilities are reviewed by
the Commission to insure compliance with regulations and
conditions specified in the Ordinance for such use. Any
conditions imposed by the Commission will be enforced by
the staff.
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d. That the granting of this conditional use will not adversely
affect the General Plan of the City of Chula Vista or the
adopted plan of any governmental agency.
The General Plan will not be affected by this proposal.
PUBLIC HEARING - VARIANCE - Diversified Enterprises - Woodlawn and
Oaklawn Avenues South of H Street - Reduction in
Setbacks
The application was read in which a request was made for reduction
in front yard setback as follows: on Oaklawn Avenue from 20' to
15' and on Woodlawn Avenue from 25' to 12' and 2' at the cul-de-sac,
for the purpose of constructing an apartment complex of 62 units.
Also, a request for a further reduction in front setback to 3' on
Woodlawn Avenue for parking.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the loca-
tion, adjacent land use and zoning. He then submitted an enlarged
plot plan of the location of the proposed buildings and the parking
layout, noting the requested reductions in setback. He noted that
the applicants could construct the apartments without a variance,
depending on the design of the complex; however, it appears that an
adjustment in setbacks will produce a better plan. Mr. Warren then
noted a petition of protest and a few letters that were received by
the staff which were copied and sent to the Commission. He added
that the applicant has not shown any landscaping details, and asked
that any approval be subject to their landscaping plans being ap-
proved by the staff.
Chairman Stewart inquired about the parking spaces. Mr. Warren in-
formed him that the number of spaces meets the minimum required by
ordinance~
The Commission discussed the concept of parking in the front setback.
Director Warren noted that it has been difficult in the past to
regulate this - there was no effective way except perhaps by screen-
lng it with landscaping. He then discussed the setback which pre-
sently exists at 25' and mentioned that this is rather severe, and
the applicant has pointed out that even though it is a public street,
it is a private cul-de-sac serving only their properties. Mr. Warren
then referred to the letters of protests noting that theprotestants
suggested the construction of a masonry wall adjacent to their homes.
Member York noted that the building would be set back 12' and parking
3' with no screening in front of the parking where it will be 3'
They show some landscaping, but screening might not be possible be-
cause of the traffic ordinance. Mr. Warren again reiterated the
reduction in setback requests.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was
declared open.
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"i: Norman Seltzer, one of the owners of the property, discussed the
~ :oposed pians He commented that his arch:tect was present to
.~u~__~on_ lie agreed that approval o[ the variance should
~.~ d ,= uo0d::~on to the approval of a ±andscap',_ng plan. Mr~ Seltzer
~ta~t:J*-h.~.' r they have 78,000 square ~eet of land area and thelr
.~::ze:ag~: is approximateiy 35% of the lot. They will provide 93 park-
n~]~' .... ~a :~~'~ fo~ the 62 units. He then spoke of the great need for
~?~.~: ~[;~tme~.~s: the location, the proximity to Rohr; the need,
:h-- af~artments across the street with no vacancy, etc. He added that
~i~p~, ~il buffer the ad3acenh property with suitable planting~ Mr.
S ;l~ze~ declat-ed that their needs would be better served by maln-
~,~n:ng ~he ]~ to 1 parking rat:o, rather than if the Commission not
~: .;: '~.:~. ,3a~:ance and they would be forced to come in and ask for a
..: ]u~ ~ &~.% o~ the number of parking s~aces. With ~eference to the
~ ~q,e~ty ~o 5he side, the masonry wall would be an excessive re-
.[u~ ~. :,~.:0~ ; zney plan to put in a redwood fence. He commented that
.... e ~. ~e some fences up already, but they will be constructing one
wh: ch ~,.~i [', be more suitable for the area, Mr. Seltzer then discussed
*-be ~::corom!.cs of the sinuatlon and the need to build 62 units.
['4ember Ad~ms asked the applmcant if he wculd be willing to install
, b.~mLer guard next to the wooden fence, since the neighbors are
wo£~£d about '.:he cars going through the fence~ Mr Seltzer sta5ed
,h ~ he %~culd do sO.
C~.t} At~.o~'ney Lindberg advised the Commission that imposing the con-
d~t ~on >f a masonry wall to buffer t:he residential properties along
Oa]< ~aw. does nob seem to be a proper condition; it would be rather
e:: ~.,J,":, as ~t relates to the var:ance request.
Those speaking in protest were: Bllile Bowrzght, 538 Oaklawn Avenue,
C C. No!~acber, 532 Oaklawn Avenue, Melvin C. Sutterfield, 522
O:~.~at;n Avenue. The3r ob3ectlons were: ~!) the property on Oaklawn
~ ~:n:~e-~am~ly residential property; i2) r. here is 15' between the
[ u id.~ :g and the pIoperty line on OakJawn shown on the plan, but it
.~ n:.~: d~,~ a[ied enough no show whether they will plant a hedge
the~<~ ~r n::~; i ~) the parking layout ior the center' and southerly
] ~t ~i,.'~w ~he .cars parking right up to the fence, and any bumper
<~3arr3 r .,,~,~=d here would knock ou: the s[~'aces entirely; i4) the ap-
,.~ , c,~n:s wo~e_ aware of the price of constIuct.Lon when they purchased
'~,]~: p~cp<£:5 last year; consequently, they do not need to request
~ ~:~: ~en<: uo put in more units for more income; ~5] they should re-
Ju, .[:c :,~mber <Df un:ts and the park:n~ spaces and thereby serve
th, co~m~un::?; {6~ the co~dltlo~ of a concrete block wall is a rea-
~ ~[, ~ requ] ~emenn; (7) the required landscaping at the fencin~
~ ~ ,~ '~ <ons:de~abie water to ma].ntain and th].s would cause de-
,, :~er~%~cn of the fence; (8) if the variance is granted, it would
., · [-,~ ~ ~ ~dzng out 5' in front on Oak!awn wNereby the service
~: ? ..:, :s rzghl ].n line with the houses on this street; (9) if
t ~e,'~ ~.~:~ ~u= d_Lg to the maximum, where w~ll the guest parking be;
;.C', ~.!:~ ~ 1.~n does not show any area for trash collection - pre-
.... , ~ is a c~ty dump and playground fox the kids; (ii) pur-
r.s< ~. :'1{1 r homes here a num,~er of years ago and some of them under-
:~ ? d :.~, the vacan~ lot was not wide enough to house apartments;
] ? d} ~veways ale being contlnuaily blocked and they were forced
' , ~a,/~ :m:'.:ed parking s:gns put up.
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Chairman Stewart explained that there will be a condition whereby
the applicant would have to submit landscaping plans subject to the
approval of the Planning Director~
Director Warren explained that the applicants would have the parking
lot ~n the location proposed whether or not they are before the Com-
mission ~or a variance; that they would have no control over the
development of the property.
Chairman Stewart explained that the parking ratio is set up to take
care of any guest parking; visitors are also entitled to park on
the public street.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing
was declared closed.
Member York asked about the area as delineated in the General Plan.
D~rector Warren noted that it was high-density classification, and
the depth of these lots (between Oaklawn and Jefferson) have a
depth of 110 feet~
Member York commented that eventually they would become R-3 and won-
dered whether they should maintain a 20 foot setback because of the
shallow lots~ He questioned whether this would be adequate for
development~
D2rector Warren stated that the staff has been studying the setbacks
~n %he central part of the city - this will be one of things to be
considered~ In the newer areas where development takes place, they
have been assigning 15' setbacks; conceivably, with lots having this
depth, a reduction in setback would have to be considered.
Member Adams noted that the houses out there now are usable for
anothe~ 15 - 20 years and they shouldn't be worrying about future
plans r~ght now. Member Gregson said he was in favor of leaving it
a% 20 feet. Member Rice felt there was no justification in reduc-
ing it to 15 ~eet; he would also suggest the Woodlawn setback be
reduced only to 12'
Member York commented that, in the past, they have tried to eliminate
the parking ~n the front year setback - 25' is extreme in this case
but 12' should be the minimum. He also objects to the 2' for build-
~ng on ~he cul-de-sac.
Member Hyde noted that there were no exceptional circumstances for
£ed~cing the parking to 7½ feet other than the economic situation.
Mr Seltzer declared this would be their proximity to Rohr Aircraft
so that they do not have any on-street parking~
Member Adams remarked that he was not satisfied in allowing parking
in the front yard setback as it will set a precedent. He has no
ob3ectlon to the 2' setback on the cul-de-sac, however.
Member Hyde noted that while the applicant wants to make maximum use
o~ the land, it makes more congestion to the area.
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Director Warren pointed out that the applicant is only proposing
constructing of 62 units on 78,000 square feet of land area whereby
he could construct 78; they are not reaching their maximum density
nor overcrowding the property.
Member Hyde stated he is withdrawing him comments about overcrowding
~n view of what the Director has stated.
Mr. Don Jolly, 4746 E1 Cajon Boulevard, San Diego, stated they have
not used the maximum ground coverage permissible by Code. They are
proposing an open court area for the people who will be living
there. Mr~ Jolly also noted the planting strip and the trees which
will be used to screen their parking areas. If they had to remove
the two spaces from the 3' setback, they would also lose 2 units~
He added that if they designed to the maximum they could go three
stories, which would help them economically. They could also com-
pile the parking into one lot, but they preferred to split it into
3 lots.
Chairman Stewart commented that the Commission would prefer the 20'
setback to be maintained on Oaklawn and the 12' on Woodlawn on both
parking areas and that they will go along with the 2' on the cul-de-
sac.
Member York stated he preferred to see the entire development re-
designed~
D~rector Warren commented that if the Commission desires to re-work
their plans assuming it will be necessary to grant some portion of
the variance~ he would suggest that they reopen the hearing and con-
tinue it asking for the architect to bring back another plan.
Mr~ S~ltzer asked that the Commission grant the variance, with a
reduction ~o 12' on Woodlawn with a minimum of 2' at the cul-de-sac
and they w~ll redesign their plans accordingly~
MSUC %Adams-Hyde) Approval of variance subject to the following
cond~t;ions~
1. Approval is based on a reduction in setback on Woodlawn Avenue
to 12 feet and to a maximum of 2 feet on the cul-de-sac~
2. Landscaping plans be brought in for approval by the Director of
Planning prior to obtaining a building permit.
That some form of protective bumper be devised to prevent vehi-
cular damage to the fence along the easterly property line.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or require-
ments would result in particular difficulties or unnecessary
hardships inconsistent with the general purpose and intent of
the regulations~
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The setback on the west side of Woodlawn Avenue has never
been established and thus was set at 25' which is deeper
than that existing on the east side of the street and thus
results in an unnecessary hardship~
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applica-
ble to the property involved or to the intended use or develop-
ment of the property that do not apply generally to other prop-
erty ~n the same zone or neighborhood~
Every other parcel fronting on the street has a 12' setback
and a por%ion of the parcel with frontage on the cul-de~
sac has a 2' setback. The applicant merely wishes to have
the same prlvilege~
c That the granting of a variance will not be materially detri-
mental to the public welfare or ~n3ur~ous to property or im-
provements in such zone or neighborhood in which the property
· s located
The applicant owns every parcel fronting on Woodlawn, and
thus this request affects only his property which already
enjoys the requested setback.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the
objectives of the General Plan.
The General Plan will not be affected by this proposal.
SUBDIVISION (Con t'd) - Windsor Park - Tentative Map
D~rector of Planning Warren submitted the tentative map, noting the
location of the subdivision as being at the northerly terminus of
Melrose Avenue north of East "J" Street and abutting the west side
oi the proposed Inland Freeway~ He explained that this matter was
continued from the previous meeting because the Commission requested
that the applicant revise the map to provide a stub street extending
northerly to the abutting property to furnish access to that parcel.
Mr. Warren noted that the topography in this area was rough and
drops down sharply at a point to the north. There w~ll be an ease-
meDt provlded %o the water tank. The area comprises 18 acres and
w~ll be subdivided into 67 lots. They have solved nearly all the
problems ~hat were discussed; however, the staff is still concerned
with the steep slopes~ They would recommend approval based on pro-
v~dlng slope planting and subject to all the conditions recommended
by the Dlvision of Englneering with the exception of one cond!tion
~he Commission may want to d~scuss: that the right-of-way for all
streets be a mlnlmum of 51' - the map shows 46', which the Planning
s%a~ ~s willlng to go along w~th. Mr. Warren then related the
discussions the subdivider had with the F.H.A. ~n which F.H.A. ex-
pressed their concern over the severity o~ the slopes and the method
of development since they did not capitalize on the views; they
suggested the subdividers provlde a loop street with double-frontage
lots which would give them the advantage of the views. The slopes
~o the west and south would have to be maintained by someone, however.
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Director Warren maintained that the fences could be on top of the
slopes and the property line extended down to the slope~ The sub-
dividers are willing to commit themselves as to the maintenance of
these slopes for a period of one year, and also provide a sprinkler
system to maintain it after that period.
Clty Attorney Lindberg discussed the matter of the right-of-way,
notang that in the past the City has reduced this to 46' with the
construction of monolithic sidewalks, and it was found to be quite
sufficient~ The question was raised by Cal-Am Water Company for
room to install their water meters~ The suggestion was made by them
that this entire width be dedicated street right-of-way because of
the concern they had on going into private property to make neces-
sary repairs in the future. Mr. Lindberg said he called the Water
Company today and discussed this w±th them and they stated they
would have no difficulty on a 46' right-of-way with a proper ease-
ment; there is no need for additional right-of-way as far as the
City is concerned.
Mr. Bill Ansley, 19 Rancho Vista, representing the developer, stated
he preferred the concept of development as suggested by the F.H~A.
It would give them less lots (62 instead of 67), but they feel it
would make the area more attractive.
Mr Charles Pearson, Wittman Engineering Company, 3511 Camino del
Rio, stated that, at first, he didn't approve of this idea. There
are lots with banks as high as 50 feet, but developing in this
fashion, they will be able to provide view lots throughout the sub-
divlslon. The F.H~A. feels that the value will partially offset the
cost and the sales will be better. Mr~ Pearson then discussed the
Bay-Ho Subdivision which has this same concept~
Chairman Stewart commented that most of the soil around there is
d~ffic~a~t to stabilize even for planting, and questioned what would
happen to the banks not under private ownership - if it continues to
erode, the City would have to maintain it.
Mr. Ansiey stated they propose to make the southerly slope a separate
lot and under a private ownership. He said Mr. Duke Ellington will
own and maintain this lot~
Chairman Stewart felt this was a good condition to impose.
The Commission discussed the grading and the slopes. Mr. Gesley,
Assistant City Engineer, stated that a one-year maintenance does not
go very wel~ as ~ar as the Public Works is concerned, and no matter
who owns it, it would revert back to the property owners and loss of
taxes - no one will want to sign for perpetual maintenance.
Mr Warren indicated that F.H~A. requires maintenance of 90 days for
the slopes,
Mr~ Ansley stated that Mr. Ellington is willing to enter into an
agreement with the City to maintain the area. They will also agree
to put in a sprinkler system and ice plant there, Chairman Stewart
stated that th~s sounds reasonable. Mr. Ansley asked for Commission
approval of the concept.
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Director Warren commented that there are many problems in approving
a concept and not a map; however, he would not want to see this con-
tinued for two weeks and then have the Commission go back to the old
map.
Mr. Gesley maintained that they are not opposed to the new concept-
it has good features; they are just concerned over the maintenance
of the property. They have not come up with a good solution for
maintenance~ The installation of a sprinkler system is a very small
part in taking care of these slopes.
Director Warren agreed, adding that there is some way in which this
could be solved.
The Commission discussed continuing the matter for two weeks~
Director Warren felt the Commission should give the subdivider some
guidance. Chairman Stewart indicated that they like the new concept,
if the subdivider can get together with the staff and City Engineer
and come up with a solution to the maintenance of the slopes.
Mr. Ansley felt that a continuance would not serve the purpose they
are after~ The first plan would place a considerably less value on
the lots as far as real estate is concerned.
Director Warren recommended the Commission endorse the plan with
the question of whether or not an agreement would be reached for
the maintenance of the slopes.
The Commission discussed selling the homes with the private owners
maintaining the slopes.
Mr. Ansley indicated that they could have a recorded covenant stat-
ing that the owners must maintain their slopes. He added that they
are willing to go along with anything reasonable in order to get
approval of the map.
MSUC (York-Hyde) Approval of the concept - an alternate proposed by
the subdivider and F.H.A. submitted at this meeting. This alter-
nase provides for a limited number of double-frontage lots and
narrowed streets in the easterly portion of the subdivision. Action
on this matter is continued to the meeting of May 1, 1967, so that
the subdivider will meet with the staff and reach an agreement
which will assure proper planting and maintenance of the resultant
slopes~
SUBDIVISION - Mestler Manor Unit NO. 1 - Final Map
Director of Planning Warren submitted the map noting the location as
the southwest corner of Fourth Avenue and Kearney Street. The sub-
division contains 23 lots and the staff would recommend approval
since it conforms to the tentative map.
MSUC (Gregson-Adams) Recommend approval of the final map of Mestler
Manor Unit No. 1.
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SUBDIVISION Southwestern College Estates, Unit No~ 2
D~rector of Planning Warren submitted the final map of Unit No. 2,
noting the location as Otay Lakes Road, east of Southwestern Junior
College; the unit contains 77 lots. This unit includes the area
purchased by the School District for an elementary school site. The
staff recommends approval based on two conditions; the map conforms
%o the tentative map previously approved.
MSUC ~Guyer-Rlce) Recommend approval fo the map subject to the fol-
lowIng conditions:
1 The location on the final map of all necessary tree planting
easements as required by the City Engineer~
The specific type of plant material for slope planting shall be
approved by the Director of Plannlng~
Extension of Time on Condational Use Permit - Southeast Corner Otay
Lakes Road and Gotham Street R. and D. Kelton
Director of Planning Warren noted the letter received from Mr~ A. B.
Mayfield, Standard Oil Company of California, Western Operations,
Inc., requestang an extension of two years on the conditional use
permit granted R and D. Kelton for a service station at this loca-
tlon. Mr~ Warren stated that the area is zoned C-N, and the staff
would recommend that the extension be granted, but suggest that the
Commission add a condition whereby the developer of the service
stataon would construct a ranch-type building which would be more
compatible with the adjacent residential area.
Director Warren read the conditions imposed on the original condi-
~lonal ~se permit, noting that some of these conditions are now re-
quired unde~ the C-N zone.
RESOLUTION NO. 466 Resolutlon of the City Planning Commission Grant-
MSUC (Race-Adams) ~ng an Extensaon of Time on Conditional Use
Permit No. C-65-3.
The permit will now expire on August 9, 1969.
R_~e~ort on Request by Frank Ferreira for Modification in Prezoning
Request at Vista Drive, south of Bonita Road
Director of Planning Warren explained that this matter involves 5
acres sub3ect to prezoning which has been before the Commission
previously; the request was for prezoning to C-2~ The property has
not been annexed but it will be, pending the outcome of the prezon-
~ng. The Commission held a public hearing on this matter and re-
commended R-1 prezonang to the Council. At the City Council meet-
lng of February 7, 1966, Mr~ Ferrelra asked to retract his request
for prezonang to C-2 and requested interim zoning to R-3 until such
time as ~he freeway alignment is established, after which he would
lake to have C-1 zonlng. The Council referred this back to the
Commission for report; the Council hearing was continued to May 2,
1967. At the time the Coramlssaon considered this matter, there was
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a question of the ireeway alignment, and the uouncil asked that the
staff contact the State Division of Highways. Mr. Warren indicated
that the staff discussed this with the Highway Division and just
rec3ently, they sent the staff a map and a letter stating that the
alignment was now firm. However, this realignment has not been
accepted by the City or the County. Mr. Warren then read the find-
ings taken from the previous prezoning request. The Council is now
asking for the Commission's report as to Mr. Ferriera's request. A
public hearing is not required for such reconsideration. Director
Warren ~hen discussed the freeway interchange map.
City Attorney Lindberg stated that this is the first instance under
our new procedural ordinance which, in order for the Council to
modify a recommendation of the Commission, they have sent it back
to the Commission for a report. While this is not the typical
situation we might have, the Council has indicated that they do not
desire a particular zoning that they did indicate that they wish
to consider a modification of the recommendation if certain factors
explained here were changed during the interim period in which they
consldered the matter. Pursuant to the procedural ordinance, what-
ever report the Commission forwards to the Council will be suffic-
ient for Council action without further referral to the Planning
Commission.
Member Guyer asked about the C-V zone as it relates to this property~
Director Warren indicated that the General Plan calls for this use
fo~ at least a portion of the property. He then questioned Mr.
Ferre~ra as to whether he still is requesting R-3 zoning for this
property, since Mr. Ferreira indicated at the Council meeting that
this was the zone he would like placed on his property until such
t~me as the alignment is known~ Since the alignment has now been
flrmed up, Mr~ Warren asked if the applicant was still requesting
the R-3 zoning.
Mr. Frank Ferreira, 3715 Putter Drive, Bonita, stated there was no
need to ask for the R-3 zoning now.. He added that the Council did
not favor the Commission's recommendation of R-1 zoning for this
property.
Mr. Warren stated that his observations were that the Council ex-
pressed no such opinion; that the adjacent owners objected to small
lots in the area.
Mr Perreira discussed how for the past 3 years he has been working
with the State on the proposed development of this property, and how
nothing definite could be done until the alignment was firmed. Now,
that the freeway right-of-way will be acquired, it is highly im-
probable that R-1 zoning in this area will be retained. Some of the
properties on Bonita Road will be landlocked, and Mr. Shepard from
the Division of Highways has asked Mr~ Ferreira to locate his
frontage road so that these homes can use it for access; however,
there will be only 3 homes landlocked, and the problem is not so
great. He asked that the Commission consider C-1-D zoning so that
he can formulate his plans for this development~
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The Commission d~scussed the proposed alignment of Vista Drive as
submitted by the Division of Hlghways~
M~ Warren indicated that he bas discussed this with the Engineering
Division and commented that if the entire area is to be zoned com-
mercially, then Vista Drive should be realigned further south as Mr~
~erreira wants~ if it ~s eng~neeringly £easible.
Chairman Stewart questloned whether Mr Warren was able to study the
entire area as to land ~se~ Mr. Warren remarked that his staff had
not, and what the General Plan shows for this area is very schematic.
Chairman Stewart stated he was reluctant to zone this now and leave
that area north to Bonita Road in an R-1 use.
Mr Ferrelra e×plalned that the area left south of Vista Drive ac
cording to his plan would be 100' w~de or 20,000 square feet; he
would like to request R-3-D for this parcel and the rest C~i-D~
ME, Warren re£erred to the staff's comments in which he stated that
at present, they do not have the C-V zone on the books which could
be applied to this area The staff is a l~ttle unsure of the need
for C-1 zoning as it has no relationship to the freeway interchange
such as the C-V would have~ There is probably a need for commer-
cial zoning in this area but this could be accomplished with the C-N
zone.
Member York ~elt the C-1-D zone would be appropriate. He remarked
that they denied th~s same zone on two grounds: it was premature
because the alignment was not established which it is now; and
secondly, the General Plan spells out C-V zoning, but it is a very
long way in the future. The C-1 zoning would give the developer an
opportunity to make a plan for the development of this property -
he is now ready for the planning stages of this commercial develop-
ment, There is definitely a need for a commercial center here.
Member Adams stated he feels the same now as he did previously when
they recommended the R-1 zoning Commercial development was prema-
%ure not only because of the alignment not being established, but
~t is 3 to 4 years before this freeway will be constructed. What-
ever development goes in there should be either C-V or C-N. Mr.
Adams added that it would be a big mistake to allow a massive de-
velopment there~
Member York felt that if there were a logical way to split the de-
velopment, it would be good; however, this should be left up to
~he developer.
Chairman Stewart commented that if the development faced on Bonlta
Road and 3olned the interchange down there, he would have a dif-
ferent feeling; however, going off a main road 200-300 feet and be-
fore a freeway ls even in reminds him of the area aroung State
College where one feels it was zoned strictly for speculation~ He
added that the staff has not studied this for a shopping center
site, and he strongly feels that it is completely r±diculous, from
a Planning standpoint, to take 5 acres situated away from a major
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road and zone it commercially - it is entirel3 wrong. Chairman
Stewart stated that the residents an this area should not have
commercial zoning behind them; they should have an opportunity to
express their feelings in the matter.
Mr. Ferreira indicated that the only decent shopping center in the
C~ty was the Broadway Shopping Center and this is because they were
given an area to develop~ He added that it was a problem to try to
come up with a development for the C-V zoning.
Mr~ Warren commented that the Broadway people sold the City with a
plan~ Mr? Ferreira further added that it was his intent to develop
the property and not to sell it. He said he is now ready to go
ahead and put the street in and to do his grading work which will
cost him between $50,000 and $100,000, but he is reluctant to do
~hls if he does not know where he is going.
Member Adams stated that the proper zoning here ultimately should be
e~ther C-V or C-N and a good development could be worked out. Member
Guyer agreed~
Chairman Stewart reiterated that he would like to see a study of
5he area made by the staff.
Member York asked what could be put ~n a C-V and a C-N zone that
could no~ be put into a C-1 zone. Mro Warren stated that a C-1
zone does not permit motels.
Mr~ Ferre~ra indicated he has a $45,000 drainage problem that must
be solved immediately; he has to know which way he is going, and
he needs the C-1 zoning in order to spend this money.
Member Hyde asked Mr~ Ferreira if he would request C-V zoning if
it were on the books~ Mr~ Ferreira stated he would not because it
was too restrictive. He added that he has a supermarket interested
· n coming into this area; that they made a market suevey which
jus%lfled their coming ~nto the area,~
Mr~ Warren explained the difference between the C-N and the C-1
zones indicating that C-N would accomplish everything Mr~ Ferreira
desires except a motel.
Mr. Fer~e~ra stated he would accept the C-N zoning.
Member Hyde asked if it were appropriate to ask for a delay on this
matter~ Mr~ Warren reminded the Commission that the Council has
continued the hearing to May 2, 1967, and they shouldn't continually
delay lt~
M~ Ferreira stated that his option is void on May 4, and that it
has cost him $1,000 for this delay so far. He remarked that after
the frontage ~oad is confirmed, he would like to come back to the
Commission and ask for C-1-D zoning for the small parcel fronting
on Bonita Road after he has purchased it.
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Director Warren indicated that a market analysis must be made of
this area an order to justify a shopping center - as stated an the
ordinance.
He added that the C-V zone will be available for that land near the
ramp which will lend atself to that type of development. There may
be need for a general commercial facility in this area but not a
regaonal one~
The Commission discussed the flood control inundation. Mr. Warren
andicated that portions of the surrounding area would be subject
to flooding until the channel is constructed or until sufficient
fall is added.
MS (York-Guyer) Recommend to the City Councal prezoning from R-1 to C-N~
Discussion: Chairman Stewart remarked that there is a recommenda-
tion before the Council now, and he feels in the absence of having
a study by the Planning staff and some justification of a market
analys~s, the Commission would be derelict in their duties if they
recommended this commercial zoning at this time~ They should let
it go as it is now and have a study made of the area.
Member Adams stated at would be against all zoning principles to
zone this island for commercaal use at this time.
Member Guyer felt the Commission should give the applicant a chance.
Member York suggested that perhaps the honesty of the applicant is
to his disadvantage; that he could submit any imaginary plan if that
is a prerequisite.
The motion faaled to carry by the following vote:
AYES: Members York, Guyer and Hyde
NOES: Members Gregson, Stewart, Race and Adams
ABSENT: None
MSC (Adams-Rice) Commission reaffirm their recommendation to the
Council for R-1 zoning.
AYES: Members Adams, Rice, Gregson and Stewart
NOES: Members Guyer, York and Hyde
ABSENT: None
City Attorney Lindberg stated that this entire matter will go back
to the Council as a report and will include the discussions.
To Be Set for Hearing Rezoning from C-2 to R-3, Area north of "F"
Street, between Woodlawn Avenue and Broadway
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the area
to be rezoned.
MSUC IGuyer-Adams) Public hearang on thas matter be set for May 15,
1967.
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Planning Commission Interpretation of Section 33.51 of the Zoning
Ordinance - Parking in Front Yard Setback
D~rector of Planning Warren stated that the ordinance presently states
that no portion of the front yard can be used for offstreet parking.
The staff has received some plans for a development for the south
side of "F" Street which has a 25' front yard setback, and would pro-
v~de access for the parking in the front setback. By revising this
plan, however, they could park outside the front setback.
Member Adams commented that parking requires a driveway for access -
in and out~ City Attorney Llndberg read the clause from the ordi-
nance which states that no parking spaces should be located in the
front yard. Director Warren asked the Commission's intent on this,
and a possible amendment of this in the Zoning Ordinance.
Chairman Stewart felt it should be used for planting instead of
asphalt.
Member York felt the intent of the ordinance was that it should be
landscaped
Mr. Llndberg asked if It was the intent of the Commission to eli-
minate parking in the front of buildings in R-3 zones~
Chairman Stewart stated it should be so worded that the parking
would not be allowed in front of the buildings.
Director Warren stated the staff will submit something to the Com-
mission in the next ma~ling to this effect, and if it meets with
their approval, they can set it for hearing. It should probably
not prohibit parking, under any condition, "in front" of buildings,
but that a landscaped front yard should be maintained.
Recommendation - Proposed RevisIons for Shopping Center at Hilltop
Drive and Naples Street
D~rector of Planning commented that not all of the present Commis-
sioners have been involved w~th this matter. Because it involves a
schematic plan for landscaping, signs, etc., this matter couldn't
be accomplished until the staff was at full strength; thus, the
delay~ Mr~ Warren referred to the drafts of letters sent to the
Commissioners stating that this represents what the staf~ believes
is reasonable as to what is required by ordinance.
Chalrman Stewart commented that he would like to see a requirement
±or concrete between the sidewalk and the curb instead of the
planting.
Director Warren stated he hesitates to do this as they know the
street will be widened eventually~
Member York discussed the bank on the west side, commenting that
~he gol~ course would not be maintaining this~ Member Adams stated
that the slope belongs to the commercial property. Director Warren
stated he would check into this.
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MSUC {Adams-Rice! Approval of letters and landscaping plans for the
shopping center at Hilltop and Naples as submitted
by the staff, be approved.
~eques% for Extension of Time on Variance - John Mabee SWC Bonita Road and Allen School Road
A le~Ler irom Mr~ John Mabee was read in which he requested an ex-
tenslon of time on his Variance No. 66-48 granted November 21, 1966,
~or a ~eduction in the number of required parking spaces for a pro-
posed supermarket at the southwest corner of Bonita Road and Allen
School Road- They stated there was a delay in their design drawings;
however~ they will be breaking ground within the next 60 days.
MSUC ~Guyer-Gregson) Resolution of the City Planning Commission
RESOLUTION NO. 467 Granting an Extension of Time on Variance NOo
The variance will now expire on April 21, 1968 (one year extension
granted~.
Budget Request
D~rector of Planning Warren referred to the budget request mailed to
~he Members and asked for any comments.
The Commission d~scussed the need for more clerical help in the
Planning Off~ce, and agreed that the Budget Request was reasonable.
League D~nner
D~rector Warren noted the next dinner of the League of California
Cltles would be held at the Coronado Hotel on Wednesday~ April 26,
and any Commissioners wishing to attend should call the Secretary
~or reservations
ADJOURNMENT
MSUC iRlce-Gregson! Meetlng be adjourned s~ne die. Meeting ad-
journed at i1:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,