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CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
May 5, 1969
The regular meeting of the City Planning Commission of Chula Vista, California, was
held on the above date beginning at 7 p.m. in the Council Chamber, Civic Center,
276 Guava Avenue, with the following members present: Hyde, Macevicz, Stewart,
Chandler, Rice, Adams, and Putnam. Absent: none. Also present: Director of
Planning Warren, Associate Planner Manganelli, Junior Planner Liuag, City Attorney
Lindberg, and Assistant City Engineer Gesley.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MSUC (Adams-Chandler) Approval of the minutes of the meeting of April 28, 1969, as
mailed.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING AND PREZONING - "L" Street between Fourth and Fifth Avenues
(north 300') - R-2-A to R-3 - Charles and Barbara Offerman
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the properties in question,
the adjacent land use and zoning. The request is for prezoning to R-3, 18 parcels
of R-2-A zoned land in the County and a rezoning to R-3 of two lots, presently in
the City. No plans for the proposed development have been submitted; however, in a
rezonin9 request, the applicant cannot ordinarily be held to his plans.
Mr. Warren discussed a former rezoning request for this area made in 1965 to the County
Board of Supervisors which was denied. He added that the new zoning ordinance sets up
a procedure whereby a land owner can develop a deep lot with additional dwellings as
long as the net density remains consistent with Ordinance requirements. This is done
administratively rather than by variance. The subject property is a difficult piece
of property to develop and perhaps some form of low-density multiple-family could be
developed. This could be done by a subdivision map; however, any development proposed
for this area would have to assure being compatible with the adjacent single-family
use. The staff is recommending denial of the request and has presented findings for
Commission consideration.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. Gaylor L. Henry, attorney representing the applicants, from the firm of Miller,
Evatt & Henry, San Diego Trust and Savings Building, San Diego, listed the name of
his clients and the property ownerships on a plot plan which he circulated among the
Commissioners. He submitted an aerial photograph of the area and noted the adjacent
land uses, and the freeway interchanges. He pointed out that some of the homes
fronting on "L" Street have to back up onto the street--this could happen with 8 or
l0 homes here, but the best solution would be to approve the proposed development and
have two or three curb cuts. Because of the time element, Mr. Henry claimed he did
not get a chance to talk to all of the people involved in this request, and the
Director's suggestion for the filing of a subdivision map seems to be a good solution.
The applicants want to do something here that would be attractive and an asset to
the City. He hasn't had a chance to explore with the Director of Planning the matter
of filing a subdivision map.
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Mr. Lou Beran, real estate broker, stated he had specialized in the sale and develop-
ment of R-3 zoned property for the last 15 years, and that this particular area was
one of the best locations for a multiple-family development in the City.
Speaking in opposition were: Eugene S. Mrowka, 438 Westby Street; Millard E. Showman,
410 "L" Street; John F. Garduno, 469 Westby Street; Gene E. Bauer, 441 Westby Street;
Chester L. Coderre, 454 Westby Street~ and Lydia Coderre, 464 Westby Street.
Their objections were: (1) it is inconsistent with the City's General Plan which
delineates medium density housing for this area; (2) in 1965, a similar request was
denied by the County Board of Supervisors; (3) the rezonin9 would be detrimental to
the general welfare as the height and density permitted in this zone would be an
invasion of privacy for the adjacent single-family residences; (4) the traffic on to
"L" Street would increase tremendously--there could be as much as 500 vehicles using
approximately 14 points of ingress and egress in a space of 1300 feet if this partic-
ular area was developed with apartment units; (5) the people buying homes in the
adjacent area invested their money in what they believed to be strictly a single-
family residential zone--this proposal would not be compatible with this area; (6)
there are thousands of acres of undeveloped land in the City that would be more
suited to this type of development; (7) some of the property owners included in this
request have no desire to have their properties rezoned or prezoned; (8) there would
be a noise factor coming from the tremendous number of units that could conceivably
be developed; (9) the schools in the area are presently operating at capacity level--
this development would overcrowd the schools; (10) a precedent has been set for this
area--the County Board of Supervisors denied a similar request in October 1965; (11)
most of the adjacent dwellings have the living area in the back--this proposed
complex would invade their privacy.
Mr. Henry, in rebuttal, stated that they would consider a lower density, such as,
instead of one unit for each lO00 square feet of land area, they could go to one
unit for each 2000 square feet of land area. As to the school problem, ~e main-
tained that there will be children coming into this area, regardless of what
proposal goes in, and the need for new schools would be handled by the local school
authorities. He added that development of single-family homes in this area is not the
answer--perhaps the answer is the filing of a subdivision map.
There being no further comments, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed.
Letters were read from several of the adjacent property owners protesting this request.
The City Attorney ruled that where letters are read and the person writing them is
not present for cross-examination or rebuttal, it is proper to just note that the
letters are received in opposition to the request.
Chairman Hyde questioned the guidelines as set up in the new zoning ordinance for the
development of deep lots.
Director Warren explained the administrative provision which could take care of a
certain number of units subject to certain conditions. This provision may be desirable
for this area or it may not.
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Member Adams commented that development either of the single-family concept or the
multiple-family would both be difficult.
Mr. Warren related this proposed development to that east of K Street in which the
developer put several parcels and developed it with multiple-family units of 1 to
4000 square feet of land area, and single-story. This concept was acceptable to the
people in the area.
Member Stewart suggested that if the developer desired to bring in a subdivision
map or a planned unit development, the density be no greater than that existing in
the County. He would favor consideration of all that property that could be
included in this plan.
Member Rice agreed, adding that the "D" zone should be imposed.
Member Warren remarked that if the Commission were going to consider another density,
they determine from the applicant an acceptable period of time and then continue the
matter rather than reach that decision now.
Mr. Miller claimed that he could not answer that right now. He would ask for a
continuance so that he can get together with the people in the area and see what
they want to do. He felt three months would be sufficient time to do this.
City Attorney suggested that the hearing be then reopened and continued to this date,
and the people in the area be notified of the next meeting.
MSUC (Rice-Chandler) The public hearing be continued to the meeting of August 4, 1969,
and the staff be directed to notify the people in the area of this change.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - 648 Third Avenue - Communit~ Center - The Salvation A~ in a C-1 Zone
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location of the property
in question, the adjacent land use and zoning. The property involves two lots
measuring 162.5' x 290'. The applicants will be developing a Community Center consist-
ing of such uses as meeting rooms, chapel, game room, library, and outdoor recreation
and basketball courts. They will eliminate the structures now on the premises. The
staff is recommending approval of the request subject to certain conditions which he
outlined and reviewed.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Hr. Bob LeBre, 1145 Fourth Avenue, member of the Chula Vista Advisory Board for the
Salvation Army and a realtor, introduced Major Robert Yardley of the Salvation Army.
Major Yardley discussed in detail the uses that would comprise the Community Center.
He indicated that they haven't gone into any detailed study as to the exact needs of
this particular area, but that the Center would serve a two mile plus radius.
In answer to Chairman Hyde's inquiry, Major Yardley stated that there would be
absolutely no retail sales of clothing or other merchandise on the premises. He
added that they agree to all of the conditions being imposed by the Planning Department.
As to the outdoor activities, these games would be over about 9:30 in the evening.
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Admiral Charles Whiting, Attorney-at-law, and also a member of the Phoenix Institute,
owners of the adjacent property which is presently being used as a church site. He
stated the dwelling has been used as an institute of learning--the Phoenix Institute--
and they are now in their third semester. They incorporated on November 30, 1967
for this purpose, and they are now formulating plans for their new buildin9 which will
be their liberal arts college on this property. They meet from 9 a.m. to l0 p.m.
almost daily. They still hold one religious service there on Sunday; however, the
main service (ll a.m.) is so great that they hold this service in the Fredericka Manor
Hall.
Some of their classes consist of a period of meditation, and it would be impossible
to conduct these classes next to a recreation center. They believe the Salvation
Army could find another place in the community where there would not be an existing
insitution already going in adjacent to it. They plan to raze the existing building
and build the institution on this location.
Mrs. Antoinette Ravalocci, real estate agent, declared that t~e City was fortunate
to get the Salvation Army here. She felt the Phoenix Institute could construct
their building in a sound-proof manner to shut off any noises that might come from
this Center.
Mr. Henry Willardson, owner of the Tree Haven Apartments on "J" Street, remarked that
the majority of his tenants are retired people. The only objection he would have
would be the noise factor, since noise can carry and it might interfere with his
people. If the recreational activities were held indoors, there would be no problem.
Mrs. Nelson, representing Lincoff-Mannis clinic, 685 Third Avenue, stated the doctors
at the clinic are fearful of the particular uses that could occur at such a center.
Specifically, they wondered if it would be a food distribution center, for one thing.
Major Yardley refuted this, claiming they will not have a food line as such or
sleeping quarters of any kind; it will be an office such as the doctors now have.
Activities in the Center will be confined to the school children which will take
place after school hours to early evening.
Mr. LeBre maintained that at the time the church bought their property, there was a
sign up next door s%ating the adjacent lot was purchased by the Salvation Army. He
discussed the noise factor of the super market next door to the Tree Haven apartments,
and then discussed the possible uses that could 9o into a C-1 zone.
City Attorney Lindber9 stated that this was a request for a conditional use permit and
not a rezonin9; the purpose of a conditional use permit was to be sure the use would
be compatible to the surrounding area.
Mr. Marshall Barlow, 647 Third Avenue, spoke in opposition, stating this use should
be in some other location.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member Adams felt this was a good place for the Salvation Arnty; it would have no
detrimental effect on any of the adjoining properties. He would suggest the condi-
tion be imposed that all outdoor activities cease at 9:30 p.m.
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The Commission concurred and added that the noise factor would be no greater from
this Center than from any commercial use that could go in there. They felt that
a lO p.m. curfew on outdoor activities would not be an imposition.
Director Warren commented that the use of the adjacent dwelling was approved by the
Commission for a temporary church site; however, with the use changed to the Phoenix
Institute, a university, it goes beyond that originally approved. The staff will check
into this.
MSUC (Rice-Putnam) Approval of the conditional use permit request subject to the
following conditions:
1. The outdoor basketball courts shall be screened from the adjoining residential
property with a solid backdrop if said courts are used after da,vlight hours. No
lighting shall be directed toward the residential area (subject to staff review).
All outdoor activities shall cease at 10 p.m.
2. A preliminary plan shall be submitted to the staff for review and approval prior
to submission of plans for a building permit. The preliminary plan shall include:
a. Parking layout.
b. Preliminary landscape and irrigation plan (show existing trees on site and
parkway treatment).
c. Schematic building elevations.
d. Activity layout of proposed uses.
3. Final landscaping and architectural plans shall be approved by the staff prior to
the issuance of a building permit.
4. Any signs proposed shall require staff approval prior to being erected (maximum
size 20 sq. ft.).
Findings be as follows:
a. That the proposed use at the particular location is necessary or desirable to
provide a service or facility which will contribute to the general well-being of the
neighborhood or the community.
The proposed facility will serve the Chula Vista area as well as the surrounding
communities.
b. That such use will not, under the circumstances of the particular case, be detri-
mental to the health, safety or general welfare of persons residing or working in
the vicinity, or injurious to property or improvements in the vicinity.
No detrimenal use is proposed in the facility which would affect the safety,
health, or general welfare of persons in the vicinity.
c. That the proposed use will comply with the regulations and conditions specified
in the Code for such use.
The use will comply with all Code regulations.
d. That the granting of this conditional use will not adversely affect the General
Plan of the City of Chula Vista or the adopted plan of any governmental agency.
The General Plan is not affected by this use.
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PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING - 574 and 586 "I" Street - R-2 to C-I - Harbor Management
C_._oor~oration
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the area in question, the
adjacent land use and zoning. The applicants are requesting rezoning from single-
family residential to commercial (C-l) on five parcels of land located on the south
side of "I" Street, 142 east of Broadway. The staff is recommending denial of the
request since, in all probability, it would commit the remainder of the "I" Street
frontage property between Broadway and Fifth Avenue to commercial zoning. Mr. Warren
also cited the traffic congestion problem on "I" Street and the fact that further
need for additional commercial zoning in this area has not been shown.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. James Pollack, President of Harbor Management Corporation, stated they proposed
to put in a Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor and a Pie Shop on this location. He spoke
against the reasons for denial stating that the General Plan, which delineates R-3
zoning for this area, is a plan which does not define absolute lines and should not
be adhered to too strictly. He then discussed the existing shopping center and
declared that many requests will be forthcoming for businesses that are attracted to
this center and want to locate adjacent to it. Mr. Pollack added that "I" Street
will be widened, and that some day, the entire frontage of "I" Street will be rezoned
to commercial (between Fifth and Broadway).
Mr. Wesley Garst, 625 Beech Avenue, questioned the possible location of the trash
containers and the parking layout. He noted the number of ice cream businesses and
restaurants in the area and felt there was no need for additional ones. Mr. Garst
also mentioned the trash pickup for the DeFalco store which takes place on Sunday
mornings and is quite noisy.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed.
Member Putnam felt it was premature to grant this request at this time.
Member Rice commented that he would like to see this business come in, but perhaps
not at this particular location.
The Commission agreed with the recommendations of the staff.
MSUC (Chandler-Adams) Denial of the request for rezoning based on the following
reasons:
1. The General Plan designates this area as high density residential which is
equivalent to R-3 zoning.
2. Approval of this request would, for all practical purposes, commit the remainder
of the "I" Street frontage between Broadway and Fifth Avenue to commercial zoning.
3. Need for additional commercial zoning in this area has not been shown by the
applicant nor is it evident to the Commission.
4. Commercial development would compound the severe traffic congestion problem on
"I" Street in the vicinity of the subject property, since full street widening would
not be accomplished.
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- PUBLIC HEARING - VARIANCE - 1423 Ocala Court - Reduction of rear yard setback from
20' to 11~ - R. Klopfer
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the property in question,
the adjacent land use and zoning. He noted that the lot measures 6000 square feet
which size lot was reduced within this particular subdivision to provide open space
adjacent to Greg Rogers Park. Partially because of the lot size, the applicants are
faced with a limited area within which to build without encroaching into the rear
setback area. However, even with their proposed addition, the total rear yard area
that would be left will be in excess of the total area required by ordinance. The
staff recommends approval and offers findings for Commission consideration.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. R. Klopfer, the applicant, stated this is a four-bedroom home; however, the rooms
are quite small, and with three small children, they must provide for more room.
There being no further comments, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
MSUC (Putnam-Rice) Approval of the variance request.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations.
The primary intent of the 20' rear yard requirement is to provide a reasonable
separation between neighborhood dwellings to afford the occupants "living space,"
light and air and a modicum of privacy. The distance between the neighborhood
rear dwelling and the proposed addition would be 47 feet, a distance which would
insure such privacy.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the property
involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do not apply
generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood.
The lot is only 100' deep making any addition inflexible by maintaining a 20'
rear yard.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the public
welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighborhood in
which the property is located.
Adequate open space remains in the rear yard since approximately 1560 sq. ft.
wou would exist, when the lot would normally have 1200 sq. ft. (60' x 20').
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan.
The General Plan would not be affected by this proposal.
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Move-In (Continued) - 196 East Oxford Street - Dale Hill
Director of Planning Warren explained that he met with the owners of this proposed
move-in, and reviewed the pictures. In its present form the building is not
attractive, but frequently this is the case when these are moved-in; however, with
Building Department requirements, they must bring the building up to Code and the
buildings look a great deal better. In this case the staff would recommend approval
subject to the condition that the building be painted the same color as the house.
The Commission concurred.
MSC (Adams-Chandler) Recommend approval of the proposed move-in of an accessory
building to the southwest corner of Oxford Street and Monserate Avenue, subject to
the condition that the building be painted the same color as the dwelling on the
lot, and subject to any other departmental requirements.
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members Adams, Chandler, Putnam, Hyde, Stewart and Rice
NOES: Member Macevicz
ABSENT: None
Subdivision - Holiday Estates, Unit No. 5 - Final Map
Director of Planning Warren submitted the final map commenting that it conforms
to the tentative map. The subdivision is located approximately 600 feet west of
Hilltop Drive, bisected by Orange Avenue, lying south of the San Diego Gas &
Electric easement on 19~ acres of ground and contains 158 lots.
One of the problems to be resolved prior to Council action would be the treatment
of the double frontage lots along Orange Avenue. The staff discussed the land-
scaping with their architect and they are working on this. The staff would also
suggest the design and construction of the fence along Orange Avenue be made subject
to staff approval.
MSUC (Stewart-Rice) Recommend approval of the final map subject to the following
conditions:
1. The final map shall not be submitted for Council action until corrections are
made to the map in accordance with the check sheets, all fees are paid and all
necessary bonds, agreements, deeds, letters, improvement plans and easements, as
required by the City Engineer, have been delivered to the City.
2. The design and construction of the wall along Orange Avenue, plus the land-
scaping, shall be approved by the Director of Planning prior to Council approval
of the final map.
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Design Consideration - Addition to Bi~ Apple Garden Shop - 475 "H" Street
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan of the shopping center noting the
location of the proposed addition to the nursery. They will be eliminating parking
spaces for this addition, which at the present time, is being used either for
employee parking or not at all. There is no need for the spaces until such time as
the market goes in. At one time the applicants attempted to expand this nursery
northward adjacent to the building; however, the Fire Department objected because
of the existing exit doors which made this proposed expansion impractical. The
staff is concerned with the haphazard manner in which this particular nursery is
growing; however, most of the objections are such that it will not interrupt the
business. The staff recommends approval subject to a condition that the wire fence
enclosing the nursery not exceed 9 feet in height.
The Commission discussed various other locations for this proposed nursery, such
as immediately adjacent to the existing one, northward beyond the fire exit door, or
an inside nursery similar to the Sears store.
Chairman Hyde discussed the original approval for this nursery and felt this was
not enough to allow them to expand. This entire area is under the "D" zone control,
aha at the time they requested the original permit they indicated that that would
be the extent of their nursery operation.
Member Adams discussed the outdoor storage of their materials and suggested continu-
ance of the matter to the next meeting so that the applicants can inform the
Commission as to whether or not they are going to provide warehousing for material
presently stored outdoors.
Member Stewart remarked that every nursery in the City has material stored out in
the yards.
MSC (Chandler-Macevicz) Addition to the Big Apple Shopping Center Garden Shop be
denied based on the finding that it would be incompatible with the existing develop-
ment, and that the proposed addition was not a well-planned one and would interfere
with traffic flow.
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members Chandler, Macevicz, Hyde, Rice, Adams and Putnam
NOES: Member Stewart
A~SENT: None
Member Rice questioned whether anything has been done with the service station lighting.
Director Warren indicated he didn't know what the status was. They had agreed to do
something about t~e bright lights; however, the staff will look into this.
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Requg.st for vacation of public right-of-way - First Avenue and Tobias Drive, south
of Quintard
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plat noting the areas requested for vacation.
These are portions of public rights-of-way located on the east side of First Avenue,
south of Quintard, east and west side of Tobias Drive, south of Quintard and the full
right-of-way of Tobias Drive, south of Quintard, being the most southerly 430 feet,
plus or minus.
The Division of Engineering recommends approval of this request based on the fact
that the right-of-way is not necessary for public improvements.
MSUC (Rice-Adams) Recommend approval of the request based on the testimony of the
Assistant City Engineer that the right-of-way is not necessary for public improvements
and is in conformance with tentative maps of Kingswood Subdivision Units 1 and 2 now
being processed through the City.
Discussion - Setback alon~ Tidelands Avenue
Director of Planning Warren explained that the Port District has advised the staff
that there is no established setback on Tidelands Avenue. Rohr Corporation has now
undertaken a five-year plan for this area and needs to know the setback requirements.
The Port District Goes not regulate the setback, but some times, they do it through
their leases; they would support any action the Commission and the Council would take.
Mr. Warren submitted a general layout of the tidelands commenting that in the past,
they had a 25' setback. He showed the proposed diagram of the 120' right-of-way
noting that he declared if the City adhered to this cross-section a 20' or 25' setback
would be superfluous. The right-of-way would be 120' wide with a center island of 18',
37' travel-lane,part of which will be parking,with 14' between the curb and the
property line. The staff feels that a lO' setback here would be all that is necessary.
The Commission could recommend to the City Council that they adopt a resolution estab-
lishing this setback, and then send it to the Port District requesting that they uphold
it.
In answer to Member Macevicz's inquiry, Mr. Warren remarked that the new proposed
zoning ordinance sets the setback at 20 feet. In this particular area, the setback
should not be as great as the other streets.
Mr. Howard Gesley, Assistant City Engineer, stated that the Commission should consider
what the Council has adopted, which is a 100' right-of-way for this area.
Director Warren explained that the Port District cannot explain the additional 14' they
require.
The Commission discussed various setbacks and generally agreed that if the right-of-way
is 120', a 10' setback would be sufficient; if the right-of-way is 100', then the
setback should be established at 20'.
City Attorney Lindberg commented that the Port will be developing this area in accord-
ance with what they believe to be their needs, and as long as they meet our minimum
standards of right-of-way and what the City considers to be minimum on setbacks, how
it is achieved is not important.
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Member Rice questioned the City Attorney as to his opinion about a conflict of
interest if he and Member Chandler voted on this issue. Mr. Lindberg ruled there
would be none.
MSUC (Stewart-Adams) Recorm}end to the City Council the adoption of a resolution to
be sent to the Port District establishing the setback along Tidelands Avenue as
follows: for a 120' right-of-way, the setback be established at 10 feet; for a
100' right-of-way, the setback be established at 20 feet.
Discussion -Revised Budget request
Director of Planning Warren commented that he has completed reviews of the budget
with the Administration office. He discussed the changes in his initial requests
and remarked that one concern was the denial of the request for a new Associate
Planner. Approval was given to the hiring of a Junior Planner but this was not to
start until January, 1970.
The Commission felt t~ey should object to this since there will be a strong need for
more planners if the 3100 acre annexation to the east comes into the City.
Director Warren spoke of the needs in his department and the desire for this additional
help, if they proposed to accomplish anything. He suggested that the Chairman speak
on this behalf to the Council, if this is the desire of the Commission.
MSUC (Rice-Macevicz) The Chairman present the position of the Planning Department to
the City Council supporting the budgeting of a new Associate Planner position and
that the Junior Planner be hired in~ediately and not wait until January, 1970.
R_e.~uest for deferment of Public Improvements - Christies Restaurant - Broadway and
E Street
Director of Planning Warren explained that a request has been received by the owners
of Christies Restaurant for a deferment of public improvements on their "E" Street
property. The Division of Engineering is recommending approval of the request based
on the property owner's problem in securing a contractor to perform this work. The
staff agrees wi th their recommendation that the deferment be granted for two months,
subject to the posting of a bond or lien.
MSUC (Chandler-Putnam) Approval of the deferment of public improvements for two
months or until July l, 1969, subject to the posting of a bond in the amount of $2200.
Vacation of the northwest corner of Bonita Road and Willow Street
Member Macevicz opened discussion on this subject which the Commission recommended
for approval at their last meeting (April 28). He stated there are circumstances
concerning this that have come up since this last meeting. Specifically, it concerns
the turning radius at this corner.
The Assistant City Engineer explained that this radius was established from dimensions
given him by Chevrolet Bus-Truck Company. This was based on a regular school bus
which seats 45 children. However, most of the buses being used today are the 92
passenger buses which cannot make this right turn without going into another travel
lane.
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Director Warren commented that he could discuss this with the City Engineer, or he
would suggest the Commission send this to the Safety Commission to investigate it,
if they feel there is real concern over this. The Commission could recommend that
the City Council direct the Division of Engineering to restudy this area and report
to them.
City Attorney Lindberg agreed, stating that the Division of Engineering should
justify it clearly to the City Council.
Director Warren indicated that the Commission should take the technical advice given
them by the people who present these requests to them. He questioned the capability
of the Commission as a whole to make a determination as to what the proper turning
radius should be.
The Commission discussed this, concurring that a recommendation should go to the City
Council asking them to direct the matter to the Safety Commission prior to their
action on the matter.
MSUC (Macevicz-Rice) Amend the previous motion made on April 28, and recommend to
the City Council that they direct the Safety Commission to study this proposed
vacation ascertaining whether the radius is adequate for proper traffic movement.
J~int Planning Commission-Ci.t~ ~.ouncil Meeting
Director Warren reminded the Commission of the joint conference to be held on Tuesday,
May 6 at 3:30 in regard to the proposed new zoning ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT
The Chairman adjourned the meeting to the joint conference to be held Tuesday,
May 6, 3:30 p.m. in the Administrative Conference Room. The meeting adjourned at 10:35
p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
~ssee~arM~ Fulasz