HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Comm min 1968/05/20 MINUTES OF A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
May 20, 1968
The regular adjourned meeting of the Planning Commission was held on the above date
at 7 p.m., in the Council Chamber, 276 Guava Avenue, Civic Center, with the following
members present: Stewart, York, Hyde, Gregson, Rice and Guyer. Absent: (with
previous notification) Member Adams. Also present: Director of Planning Warren,
Associate Planner Manyanelli, Assistant Planner, Lee, Junior Planner Masciarelli,
City Attorney Lindberg and Assistant City Engineer Gesley.
STATEMENT
The Secretary of the Commission hereby states that she did post, within 24 hours
as required by law, the order for the adjourned meeting of May 6, 1968.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Member Rice asked for a correction to be made in the minutes: page 3, third para-
graph, regarding access road proposed for Whispering Trails subdivision, this should
read seven trips a day instead of four.
MSUC (York-Gregson) Approval of minutes of May 6, 1968 with the correction as noted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Prezonin~ - Property east of Albany Avenue, north of Main Street -
R-1-A and M to M-1 - Haas Brothers Motor Company
The application was read in which prezonin9 was requested to M-1 of that property
east of Albany Avenue, north of Main Street.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location and adjacent
zonings. He stated the area is bein9 processed for annexation and contains 15.32
acres. This prezonin9 hearing includes the entire area, a portion of which is
owned by the School District for a possible future school site, and another parcel
owned by the San Diego Gas & Electric Company. Mr. Warren noted that the General
Plan delineates this area as Research and Limited Industrial and, therefore, would
put this proposal in conformance with the Plan. The staff recommends approval.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
There being no comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed.
Director Warren declared that there was some question as to whether or not a
school will be developed on this site; the District is looking for a better site.
RESOLUTION NO. 513 Resolution of the City Planning Commission Recommending to
MSUC (Hyde-Gregson) City Council Prezoning to M-1 that Property east of Albany
Avenue, north of Main Street
Findings be as follows:
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1. Industrial zoning for this property follows the trend which has been developing
in the area and will provide additional land available for development in the city.
2. The General Plan delineates this area as Research and Limited Industrial and
this proposal is in conformance with the Plan.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - 645 Broadway - Request for M-1 use in a C-2 zone -
Gardner-Stafford Properties
The application was read in which a request was made to operate a wholesale bakery
at 645 Broadway, a C-2 zone.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location and the
adjacent land use. He stated the bakery will be used primarily for the production
of doughnuts for the Mayfair market and an expansion of the existing adjacent opera-
tion. They plan to employ 15 people working two shifts, with three delivery trucks
operating from this building. The staff has pointed out that this area would fall
under the C-T zone in the new zoning ordinance; this use would be allowed in this
C-? zone subject to a conditional use permit. The staff recommends approval based
on four conditions.
Member Hyde questioned whether any performance standards would be applied to this,
such as for odors. Director Warren indicated the standards could apply here, if
and when adopted.
Chairman Stewart asked if the staff considered restricting the loading to the side
and rear of the building. Mr. Warren remarked that such a condition would be
appropriate.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. John Gardner, 4363 Grace Road, Bonita, one of the applicants, stated that
loading will be done at the side and rear of the building only; they are willing
to accept this as a condition of approval. He explained that there will be no
substantial noise factor associated with this business; that they have adequate
parking spaces for their employees and the trucks. It is contemplated that they
will cut a doorway through the two buildings on the inside--this is an expansion
of the already existing business there.
There being no further comments, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member Hyde asked the City Attorney if it were legal to place a limitation on the
number of employees.
City Attorney Lindber§ stated it was since the intent here is to limit the traffic
density on the whole operation. In the future, if they feel they need to increase
the number of employees, they have the right to come back to the Commission with
this request.
Director Warren agreed, stating the staff made this condition on the basis of the
availability of the parking on this site.
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The Commission agreed that the operation would be compatible in this area, and
not objectionable.
MSUC (Hyde-Gregson) Approval of the variance request subject to the following
conditions:
1. The maximum number of employees for any one shift shall not exceed 20.
2. The maximum number of delivery trucks shall be limited to 5.
3. Loading shall be restricted to the side and rear of the building.
4. The Planning Commission shall review this variance every two years to
determine its compatibility with the uses in the area.
5. Any proposed signs shall be approved by the Planning staff prior to
installation.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with
the general purpose and intent of the regulations. The proposed location is
ideally suited for expansion of the present bakery located north of this site.
Denial of the variance would force the relocation of the proposed operation, but
would allow the present bakery to continue.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that
do not apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. The
proposed zoning ordinance presently in public hearing stage before the Planning
Commission provides for bakeries in the C-T (thoroughfare commercial) zone
which would be applied to the Broadway area. Under present zoning classifica-
tions the zone variance is the only method for permitting this use in a C-2
zone.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighbor-
hood in which the property is located. This same use has been in operation for
a number of years on the adjacent property with no detrimental effects.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. This use will tend to advance the objectives of the General Plan
by placing this use in a proper location.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - 44 East Shasta - Request for reduction of portion of
rear yard setback from 20' to 17' - W. K. & J. E. Wilson
The application was read in which a request was made for a reduction of a portion of
the rear yard setback from 20' to 17' for the purpose of constructing a room addition.
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Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location, adjacent
land use and zoning. He noted on the plot plan the location of the proposed
addition which would encroach 3 feet in to the rear 20 feet. The property is
located approximately 8 feet higher than the property abutting it to the rear.
Mr. Warren noted that such variance requests are becoming common and perhaps an
amendment to the ordinance or an addition to the new proposed zoning ordinance
to modify these rear yard requerements would be appropriate. In this case, the
applicant would still be retaining approximately 2500 square feet of rear yard
area; the staff believes this is a good use of the land and recommends approval.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Dr. W. K. Wilson, the applicant, 44 E. Shasta Street, stated he would be pleased
to answer any questions.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
The Commission discussed the request and concurred that it would be a proper use of
a variance request.
Chairman Stewart directed the staff to draft an amendment to the ordinance to cover
situations such as this one.
MSUC (Guyer-York) Approval of the variance request based on the following findings:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in ~particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The primary intent of the 20 foot
rear yard requirement is to provide a reasonable separation between neighborhood
dwellings to afford the occupants "living space," light and air and a modicum of
privacy. The distance between the neighboring rear dwelling and the proposed
addition would be 50' to 55', a distance which would insure such privacy.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do
not apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. There
is an approximate 8 foot difference in elevation between the subject property and
the parcel to the rear and the remaining portions of the house are unusually far
from the rear property line.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious, to property or improvements in such zone or neighborhood
in which the property is located. The proposed addition would be hidden from
the view of the rear property by virtue of the co mbination of slope, fence, and
landscaping existing on the properties. Adequate open space remains in the rear
yard since before the addition, the closest portion of the house is 37 feet from
the rear property line and then because of an offset in the plan, steps further
back to a dimension of 57 feet. This leaves a rear yard area of 2500 sq. ft. which
exceeds the typical requirement of 1400 sq. ft.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. The General Plan would not be affected by this proposal.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Variance -llO East "L" Street - Request for reduction of portion
of rear yard setback from 20' to 16' - George J. Daigle
The application was read in which a request was made for a reduction of a portion of
the rear yard setback from 20' to 16' for the purpose of constructing an addition to
the dwelling.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location and adjacent
zonings. He noted on the plot plan the location of the proposed addition stating this
request was similar to that previously considered (Wilson, 44 East Shasta) in that
this property is graded 15' to 20' higher than the lot abutting to the rear. Adequate
rear yard is still being retained here, and the staff recommends approval.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. George Daigle, the applicant, in answer to Member Rice's inquiry as to the type
of addition he is proposing, stated this is the size, type and location of the
addition he wants since he is contemplating an extension of his carport in the future
and feels this would be compatible.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed.
MSUC (Rice-Gregson) Approval of the variance request based on the following findings:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The primary intent of the 20 foot
rear yard requirement is to provide a reasonable separation between neighborhood
dwellings to afford the occupants "living space", light and air and a modicum of
privacy. The distance between the neighboring rear dwelling and the proposed
addition would be 40'-45', a distance which would insure such privacy. The property
is shallow (92.74') and the front yard is relatively deep (25') leaving little
developable area in the rear yard.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do
not apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. There is
an approximate 15'-20' difference in elevation between the subject property and
the parcel to the rear and the remaining portions of the house are unusually far
from the rear property line.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighbor-
hood in which the property is located. No apparent detriment to the area is evident
primarily because of considerable difference in elevation between the subject
property and the parcel to the rear and more than adequate rear yard remains on
either side of subject addition.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of
the General Plan. The General Plan would not be affected by the approval of this
proposal.
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Request for approval of site plan and architecture - Proposed development of
property at the northeast corner of Fifth Avenue and H Street -
(C-l-D zoneI - Julius Kahn
Director of Planning Warren submitted an area map noting the adjacent zoning and
land use in the area. The property has an existing 25 foot front setback.
Mr. Warren noted the number of businesses which will be located on this property:
Big Apple Discount Store with an adjacent site reserved for a future market; a
bank building, a Kentucky Beef restaurant, and a service station operated in
conjunction with the discount store. He noted the square footage of each building
and the three access points off of H Street and Fifth Avenue into this center.
They propose 585 parking spaces--540 are required. Mr. Warren commented that the
applicants have indicated that a l0 foot wide landscaping strip would be used on
both streets with small planter beds in the parking area; however, the staff feels
that they should submit a detailed landscaping plan for the entire site for staff
approval. At present they show 900 parking, but this is subject to change since
the staff has pointed out to them the advisability of using angle parking which is
much more acceptable to the customer.
There is an opportunity here for a good shopping center, because of the size of the
property--8.5 acres. A great deal of planning has gone into the Sears-Chula Vista
Shopping Center, and this center should be coordinated with that one. The architecture
of these proposed buildings do not relate with each other. The design of the bank
building is fixed and plans have already been sent to the Building Department for
a building permit. Modification of the facade of the Big Apple can be made so that
it would be harmonious with the bank building by using the same textures and color,
also the service station. The architecture of the Kentucky Beef restaurant has no
relationship with any of the other businesses. They claim they cannot change the
architecture of their building and in this respect the staff has no recommendation
to offer. The staff feels that the Commission can recommend approval of the site
plan and of the architecture of the three buildings--the approval for the Kentucky
Beef building can be brought back at a later date.
Director Warren reviewed the conditions submitted by the staff for approval and
discussed the condition for underground utilities. The staff would like to see
this both on-site and off-site.
Member Rice questioned the number of cars that could be lined up next to the bank
window. Mr. Warren stated it would be about seven on-site. The Commission
discussed this problem that the bank across the street has with cars being out in
the road at times. It was explained that because of the angle driveway going to
the bank window, this problem will be minimized.
Mr. Cliff Burford, Planning Technology, 6151 Fairmont Avenue, San Diego, representing
the applicants proposing to develop on this property, stated they have been working
with the staff to get together a package that would be acceptable to the applicants
and the city. They feel this plan is the best solution to the traffic and the best
use of the land. They are basically in agreement with all of the conditions sub-
mitted by the staff except the condition on the underground utilities for the off-
site improvements. He asked that this item be handled at a later date when they are
working with the staff on the landscaping and their other smaller problems. He
stated they are going to angle parking and will maintain the existing entrance on
H Street.
Member Rice asked about having the bank entrance off of Fifth Avenue. Mr. Burford
stated this was the problem they tried to solve by paralleling the driveway with
H Street and having the driveway separated by a landscaped buffer. They feel
there will be very short periods of time when the cars would ever extend off the
driveway.
The Commission asked whether the building permit on this development would be
held up if they brought back the utility agreement at a later date.
Mr. Gene Grady, Chief of Building and Housing, stated it would not, if so
stipulated by the Commission.
MSUC (Guyer-Gregson) Approval of the site plan as submitted to the Planning
Department dated May 13, 1968 subject to the following conditions:
1. Because of traffic which will be generated from these new shopping facilities,
it is necessary that the street improvements on Fifth Avenue adjacent to the site
be widened. The easterly half of Fifth Avenue adjacent to this site shall be
widened to 32 feet of paving from the center line if Fifth Avenue; curb, gutter,
and sidewalk shall be replaced as necessary.
2. A detailed landscaping plan shall be submitted to the Planning Department prior
to the issuance of any building permits. Street trees will be required, as necessary,
along both the H Street and Fifth Avenue frontage. All landscaping shall be
completed prior to the final inspection of the buildings (phasing will be considered).
3. A masonry wall, 6' high, shall be constructed along the easterly property line
with the exception of the 25' front setback area where such wall shall be reduced
to 3-1/2 ft. in height. The design and materials shall be approved by the Planning
staff.
4. All utilities shall be placed underground, both on-site and within the street
right-of-way. If detailed studies by the utility companies reveal this to be
infeasible, the Planning Commission, upon request by the applicant, may consider
waiving this requirement within the street right-of-way.
Chairman Stewart now asked if there was anyone in the audience wishing to speak on
the architecture of the buildings.
Mr. Joe Fickleburg, 3225 Layton Street, Los Angeles, representing the Kentucky Beef
restaurant, stated this was an image-type building being built throughout the
United States. Presently, they are being constructed or planned for construction
in La Mesa, E1 Cajon, National City, Hillcrest, the college area in San Diego and
Chula Vista. There is a patio connected with the business which is strictly
sandwiches, and this is mostly take-outs. The business is operated by the same
people who have the Kentucky Colonel chicken businesses. Mr. Fickleburg discussed
other "image" buildings in Chula Vista, such as Der Weinerschnitzel.
Chairman Stewart asked how many of this type of building are located in the middle
of shopping centers. Mr. Fickleburg indicated that this could be the first one.
The Commission discussed the compatibility of the other buildings in this center.
Mr. Warren stated he was assured by the applicant that the other buildings would be
harmonious with the bank building.
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Member Rice commented that he would favor approval if the sign was brought down in
size, and more landscaping was put around this building, in additioin to a modifica-
tion of the facade to be more compatible with other buildings on-site.
Member Hyde remarked that these applicants with their "image" buildings must also
consider the areas that they propose to put them in and the image a city may be
trying to establish. This particular area has the "D" zone classification and the
Commission is obligated to assure the community that the Chula Vista Shopping Center
will be protected from any "hodgepodge" development. He stated he is not in favor
of approving this particular architecture, since it would not be harmonious with
that of the proposed bank and other buildings.
Member York declared that this was the least objectionable of most of the take-out
restaurants that he has seen. With the right type of control, and scaling down of
the sign, it would be agreeable. They have stated that they may come in on Broad-
way without controls.
The Commission then discussed the landscaping and the patio area of the restaurant,
and the Center in general. The Commission concurred that they were not "overjoyed"
with the second rendering of the Big Apple discount store, but that it was better
than the first one.
MSC (York-Rice) Approval of the architecture of the proposed United California
Bank building and a stipulation that the architecture of the Big Apple store
building and the service station building be submitted to the staff for approval
when the plans for same are revised to the extent that the basic design and materials
would be compatible with the bank building. With the exception of signs, the
architecture of the Kentucky Beef restaurant building is approved with the condition
that the staff give special attention to the landscaping and treatment of the patio
area between the building and H Street.
AYES: Members York, Rice, Gregson, Stewart, and Guyer
NOES: Member Hyde
ABSENT: Member Adams
PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit - Request for approval of service station
site in C-1-D zone - North side of H Street~ 600' east of Fifth
Avenue - Julius Kahn
The application was read in which a request was made to locate a service station
on the north side of H Street, 600 feet east of Fifth Avenue, a C-1-D zone.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location of the
proposed service station as on the easterly site of the property. It will observe
the setback requirements. The building will comprise a 600 square foot retail or
storage area and they will have three sets of pump islands. This station will be
operated by the Big Apple Discount Store.
A letter from the Bay General Hospital was read in which they protested the
construction of this station adjacent to their hospital for reasons of a probable
noise factor, lights, and the concept of dangerous gas, the fumes of which would
be blown into their intake vents.
Director Warren then reviewed the staff's recommendations of approval.
Chairman Stewart declared that there should also be a condition stating that the
lights will not reflect on the adjacent areas. He commented that this entire
operation will be behind a 6 foot high wall.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. Cliff Burford, 6151 Fairmont Avenue, San Diego, representing the applicant,
stated that the comments of the Bay General Hospital were unwarranted in this case.
There is a considerable distance between the hospital and this service station and
it will be separated by a 6 foot high wall; no auto repair work will be done in
this facility, it will be done elsewhere on the property; there has not been a major
service station fire in nine years in this area; and if there is anything~else they
can do to protect the hospital, they will be glad to do it. They are not asking
for any additional sign area for this service station and there will be no flashing
lights; there will be no undue emission of gas odors. The service station will
stay open until ll p.m. and the main store will close at 9 p.m.
There being no further comments, the public hearing was declared closed.
The Commission, discussed the request and felt it would not be detrimental to the
hospital subject to the conditions listed by the Planning Director with the added
condition concerning the lights.
MSUC (Hyde-Gregson) Approval of conditional use permit subject to the following
conditions:
1. Landscaping plans shall be submitted to the staff for approval and coordinated
with the shopping center site plan.
2. A trash area shall be designed to enclose a typical dumpster used by the trash
collection service.
3. All sales shall be limited to those normally considered incidental to service
station needs and confined within the building or beneath the canopied areas. In
no case shall tires and other items for sale be stored or displayed outside this
area, and in no case shall there be any sales of auto parts and accessories.
4. Flags, pennants, whirligigs, or other attention-getting contrivances shall be
specifically excluded from use. Any signs to be used shall be subject to Planning
staff approval.
5. Approval of this request excludes architectural approval which is considered
with the total shopping site.
6. The exterior lighting shall be such that it will not be directed on any adjacent
areas. Such lighting shall be subject to staff approval.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the proposed use at the particular location is necessary or desirable to
provide a service or facility which will contribute to the general well-being of
the neighborhood or the community. The proposed use is an integral part of their
total complex and would serve the shoppers and passing public.
b. That such use will not, under the circumstances of the particular case, be
detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of persons residing or
working in the vicinity, or injurious to property or improvements in the vicinity.
The conditions imposed and the design standards adhered to will make this use
compatible with other uses in the area. A wall between the service station site
and the hospital property will be required.
c. That the proposed use will comply with the regulations and conditions specified
in the Code for such use. The subject use will comply with regulations as proposed.
d. That the granting of this conditional use will not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City of Chula Vista or the adopted plan of any governmental
agency.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - Property at northeast corner of Fifth Avenue and
H Street - Request for increase in permitted sign area in
C-1-D zone - Bi9 Apple Discount Store
The application was read in which an increase in the sign area was requested from
50 square feet (permitted in this zone) to 465 square feet.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a rendering of the proposed sign comparing
it with their first rendering. The sign area on the second rendering totals 129
square feet, and the staff recommends approval of this portion and offers findings
for its justification.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. Cliff Burford, 6151 Fairmont Avenue, San Diego, stated they have submitted
this second rendering as a compromise with the staff, and they agree to the staff's
recommendations. He discussed the changes they made in this sign area, mainly
omitting the words "Discount Department Store".
Member Rice asked about an easterly section of the building. Mr. Burford stated
this was a facade and would not be lighted in any way. Mr. Julius Kahn explained
how the sign will be lighted--it will be a channel neon--only the letters
"Big Apple" will be lighted on the facade.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member Hyde commented that the applicant did a good job making the necessary
changes to come up with this second rendering of the sign. Chairman Stewart
remarked that the sign represented a good proportion to the building.
MSUC (Hyde-Rice) Variance request is approved subject to the following condition:
The sign is not to exceed 129 square feet total on a 360 square foot backing, as
submitted on the detailed plans May 20, 1968.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The 50 square feet would not allow
the applicant proper identification for a business located 300 feet from the street.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do not
apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. Strict applica-
tion would not allow the applicant the same identification enjoyed by other busi-
nesses in the area and a 50 sq. ft. sign would not be in scale with the building.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighbor-
hood in which the property is located. The proposed sign area will be similar in
size to other commercial uses in the area.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. The General Plan will not be affected.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - Property at northeast corner of Fifth and H Street -
Request for increase in permitted sign area in C-1-D zone and
reduction in setback from 25' to 10' - Kentucky Beef
The application was read in which a request was made for a reduction in setback from
25' to 10' for a free-standing sign and for a total sign area of 360 square feet
for property located approximately 400 feet east of the northeast corner of Fifth
Avenue and H Street.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location of the
proposed signs. He delineated the proposed measurements of the letters and the
pictorial representations. He said he pointed out in his report to the Commission
that the 50 square foot total sign limitation is not realistic in this case, and
the proposed new zoning ordinance would permit a larger sign more related to scale.
Director Warren then listed the conditions of approval in which the staff recommended
that the free-standing sign not exceed a total of 50 square feet, and that only one
sign be permitted on the mansard roof. The height of this proposed sign is 32 feet--
the staff recommends the total height not exceed 30 feet as in the proposed new
ordinance.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
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Mr. Joseph Fickleburg, representing Kentucky Beef, stated they are willing to
eliminate the two signs on the sides of their restaurant, but that it was
infeasible to scale down this free-standing sign. He commented they were not
adverse in Chula Vista to revolving and flashing signs, and listed a few.
Mr. Fickleburg then noted the different aspects of the free-standing sign,
indicating that the picture of the Colonel will be lighted as will the name
of the business. The picture of the sandwich is the only advertisement they have
in notifying the public that the restaurant is a sandwich-to-go type. The cost
for this alone is $1080.00. There is nothing bad about this sign--it is done in
good taste, and the flashing elements will be eliminated.
Member Rice suggested the hearing be continued until such time as the applicant
can work with the staff and come up with a sign more in keeping with this center.
Member York agreed, adding that they are a long way apart here and that a
compromise should be pursued.
Mr. Fickleburg declared that they will compromise on the signs on the building;
however, they take a strong stand on the free-standing sign.
Mr. Richards, Manager of Kentucky Colonel and Kentucky Beef restaurants, stated
they propose to stick with their free-standing sign--that they are giving up two
of their proposed signs on their restaurant.
Mr. Julius Kahn, 4750 Kearny Mesa Road, San Diego, reiterated that the applicants
are giving up two of their signs on the restaurant. He stated he is speaking in
behalf of their request and declared that the service station adjacent to this
building is requesting no signs so that, in a way, this could be a way of compro-
mise.
Mr. Ri chards claimed they are trying to observe a national image; as a matter of
fact, they are even reevaluating the Kentucky Colonel Chicken signs. As to the
free-standing sign, they do not want to have to change this in any way--they want
to keep national image.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member Rice commented on the flashing signs--he indicated that there will be a
provision against this in the new zoning ordinance, and this, plus the fact that
they are willing to give up two of their signs on the restaurant, does not
constitute justification for the free-standing sign. Mr. Rice added that he
believes the sign should be scaled down, and that they should be willing to
negotiate with the staff on this.
The Commission discussed the size of the letters and the overall size of the
sign. Member York, in looking at the picture which they passed around, felt the
sign, as pictured, may not be that large--that perhaps it shows it out of propor-
tion. He added that in view of the service station not requesting any signs--that
the total signs of the site is pretty much in line, even with the future market
coming in.
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Member Rice felt that the Commission should not take into consideration the fact
that the service station is not requesting any signs--that each case has to stand
on its own. The service station could come back at a later date and ask for signs.
Director Warren remarked that it would be interesting to know how these "images"
are created. In this case, they have designed a sign and now they are stuck with
it, and apparently, this city will be, too. It would have been a simple matter
to include the word "SANDWICHES" on the main sign. Mr. Warren added that he
agrees with Member York that the wording on the sign itself is relatively small;
however, it is the overall dimension that is large.
Member York discussed reducing the sign 25%. Mr. Fickleburg stated they would be
willing to reduce the sign 10%.
Member Rice felt this reduction would not be noticeable and would accomplsh nothing.
The Commission asked the applicants if they would care to have the matter continued
and work with the staff on this. Mr. Fickleburg stated they preferred to have a
decision tonight.
MSC (Hyde-Rice) That a modification of the variance request be approved, as follows,
and subject to the following conditions:
1. One building sign on the south mansard roof (as submitted) shall not exceed
letters 2-1/2 feet high, and a maximum of 16 feet in length, totalling 40 sq. ft.
In addition, the freestanding sign may total 50 sq. ft., but shall not exceed
32 feet in height.
2. In no case shall flashing, moving, or scintillating signs be allowed.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The 50 sq. ft. limitation for signs
in the "D" zone areas is not adequate for proper identification of a commercial
facility located in a shopping center of this type. The front setback for signs
has been reduced by variance on other parcels along H Street.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do not
apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. Other adjoining
commercial uses enjoy signs larger than that which would be permitted in the "D" zone.
The adjoining commercial areas have a 5 foot setback for signs, with this parcel
at 10 feet.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighborhood
in which the property is located. The signs as approved will be similar in nature
to other existing signs in the area and would be in scale with the building.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. The General Plan is not affected.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - Property at northeast corner of Fifth and H Street -
Request for increase in permitted sign area in C-1-D zone -
United California Bank
The application was read in which a request was made for permission to attach
six building signs (totalling 112 square feet) identifying the business at the
northeast corner of Fifth Avenue and H Street.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the area for the proposed
building and delineated the square footage of the proposed signs. He showed a
rendering of the proposed building indicating that the four signs at each corner
of the building measures 4' x 4' and the two signs stating "United California Bank"
would total 24 square feet each.
The staff recommends approval of the proposed signs.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. W. Don Sinclair, Assistant Manager of the United California Bank, 600 S. Spring
Street, Los Angeles, asked approval of their request and added that they agree with
the findings of the staff.
The Commission discussed the proposed signs and concurred that since no free-standing
sign will be used, the signs were justified and necessary.
MSUC (Rice-Gregson) Approval of the variance request based on the following findings:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The 50 sq. ft. limitation for
signs in the "D" zone areas is not adequate for proper identification of a commer-
cial facility located in a shopping district. The area of the signs viewed from
any one side of the building will contain less than 50 sq. ft.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do
not apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. The
adjoining commercial uses all enjoy signs larger than the ll2 sq. ft. proposed.
No free-standing sign will be utilized.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the public
welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighbor-
hood in which the property is located. The signs will be similar in nature to other
existing signs in the area.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. The General Plan is not affected.
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Request for approval of plans - Whisperin~ Trees Apartments - 250 Bonita Glen Drive - Frank E. Ferreira
Director of Planning Warren submitted a rendering of the proposed apartment
complex stating it will contain 98 units; it will be 2-story and of a basic Old
English architecture. The exterior will be of used brick, shake roof and stucco
with "plant-ons". The center building will be 30 feet above pad level with the
westerly unit measuring 25 feet above pad level. Director Warren then discussed
the parking spaces--they will provide 147 spaces, 48 of which will be covered either
by garages or carports. Mr. Warren pointed out that the plans were schematic, but
that they are ready for checking.
The staff reco~ends approval of this request subject to five conditions. In
condition No. 2, Mr. Warren asked that this be changed to the landscaping being
approved by the staff prior to final inspection of the building rather than prior
to having a building permit issued. In reference to the east-west easement, future
development to the north may ultimately require a cul-de-sac at its westerly terminus.
Before taking any action on this matter, the Commission considered the next item
on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - 250 Bonita Glen Drive - Request to build on property
with less than the required 50' frontage on a public street and
to provide seven compact parking spaces to meet part of the offstreet
parkin~ requirement - F. Ferreira
The application was read in which permission was requested to use a 25 foot and an
18 foot easement from Bonita Glen Drive as access to a proposed apartment complex;
also permission to use seven compact spaces as required parking in connection with
this development.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location, adjacent land
use and zoning. He noted that the applicant is in the process of dedicating Bonita
Glen Drive which will be extending to within 100 feet of this proposed development.
The 25 foot easement will be used as access to these apartment units and for possible
future development to the north. The 18 foot access road will be constructed on the
east side of the property and will be used as access to the parking areas. The
applicant meets the parking requirements and the staff has no objections to the use
of these easements.
The second part of the applicant's request concerns the use of compact parking
spaces--the Commission, in the past, discussed and agreed that 10% allowance
should be made for compact spaces, when the parking requirements are revised in the
future. The staff feels that this request is reasonable and recommends approval.
Mr. Howard Gesley, Assistant City Engineer, discussed the proposed road stating it
will be a one-half street 28 feet wide with an 8 foot parking land and two 10 foot
lanes.
Member Rice asked if there would be adequate room on the east side of the building
to get in emergency vehicles. Director Warren indicated there was and added it
would be subject to Fire Department regulations.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
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Mr. Frank E. Ferreira, 3715 Putter Drive, Bonita, the applicant, stated he will be
moving some 26,000 yards of dirt, and he has about 30,000 yards left to move for the
proposed complex. He indicated that this development will be visible for about one
mile before approaching the interchange proposed for the corner. The driveway in
front of the building will be 6 feet below the floor level. All future development
in this area will also be below this project. Because of the topography and the
other ownership involved to the east, he is asking permission to use an 18 foot
easement. His main purpose in requesting this variance is to keep the traffic away
from the residential area. He has submitted plans for the dedication of the 28 foot
street, but Mr. Ferreira stated he will be moving the dirt from the front of this
proposed building to the commercial area. They have raised the building 4 feet and
dropped the front driveway so that the traffic will run under the building. He
added he is in agreement with the recommendations of the staff.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
The Commission discussed the proposed project and agreed that it would be compatible
with adjacent uses.
MSUC (Rice-Gregson) Approval of the plans for the Whispering Trees Apartments subject
to the following conditions:
1. A minimum of five enclosed trasn areas shall be provided to accommodate the
containers used by the trash service company.
2. Landscaping plans shall be approved by the staff prior to final inspection
of the building.
3. All utility service shall be underground from the street.
4. No signs are approved at this time and shall ultimately be approved by the
Director of Planning.
5. Pad elevations shall be at 67 foot maximum.
MSUC (Gregson-Hyde) Approval of variance request subject to the following conditions:
1. The compact spaces shall be a size as determined by the staff before a building
permit is issued.
2. The 25 foot easement shall connect to a dedicated and improved public street as
shown on the submitted plot plan.
Findings be as follows:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would result
in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the general
purpose and intent of the regulations.
Easement - It is not practical nor desirable to dedicate additional land
for street purposes.
Compact Spaces - It is the intent of the ordinance to provide adequate offstreet
parking. The compact spaces can be assigned to tennants with compact cars.
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b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do
not apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood.
Easement - The applicant states property lying between this project and
Bonita Glen Drive is not owned by the applicant.
Compact Spaces - A 10% allowance for compact spaces is being proposed in our
new zoning ordinance.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighborhood
in which the property is located.
Easement - The easement will extend through existing R-3 zoned land, leaving no
affect on the area.
Compact Spaces - The spaces will be assigned to tennants living in the complex.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan.
Easement - The General Plan is not affected.
Compact Spaces - The General Plan is not affected.
PUBLIC HEARING: Variance - 629 H Street - Request for reduction of rear yard setback
15' to zero - Pacific Wholesale Electric Company
The application was read in which a reduction of rear yard setback was requested
from 15 feet to zero for the purpose of constructing a light fixture store on
property zoned C-2.
Director of Planning Warren submitted a plot plan noting the location of the proposed
business, the adjacent land use and zoning. The parcel measures 120' x 150' deep.
The setback reduction request is for permission to constmuct the building on the
rear property line with a zero setback instead of 15 feet as required by ordinance.
The staff would propose that a 6 ft. high masonry wall be constructed along the
north property line to the east property line in order to screen the loading area.
The property north of this proposal is developed with apartments.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. Henry E. Brink, Architect, representing the applicant expressed his opposition
to the condition because it would cost them ofer $1,000 to put in this wall. There
is a chain link fence there now and they are willing to put in some landscaping along
the fence to screen the area; however, this is not a loading dock as such--the
unloading is done inside the building.
Member Hyde asked if any other type of fence, other than masonry, would be acceptable.
Director Warren indicated that if they are going to require a screen wall, they
would want to have one with the least maintenance.
Mr. Kenneth Lee, Assistant Planner, noted the area of the adjacent apartments and
remarked that the carports for these units would be closer to this proposed wall
than the units themselves.
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Mr. Henry Bender, the contractor for this building, discussed the loading dock.
He stated they would not be having large trucks coming into the property--only the
small delivery trucks will be coming here. They have a central business location
down town at which they do all their main deliveries.
There being no further cogent, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member Guyer remarked that he would be in favor of dropping the condition of the
wall in view of the fact that this will not be a loading area.
Member York agreed and added that he would also base his decision on the fact that
the property abutting this area is used for driveway and carports--there will be
no loading area here, so the requirement for a masonry wall is superfluous.
The Commission concurred.
MSUC (Guyer-York) Approval of variance request based on the following findings:
a. That the strict application of the zoning regulations or requirements would
result in particular difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the
general purpose and intent of the regulations. The requirement for a 15' rear yard
would serve no useful purpose in this case since the adjoining property already
enjoys a O' rear yard setback.
b. That there are exceptional circumstances or conditions applicable to the
property involved or to the intended use or development of the property that do not
apply generally to other property in the same zone or neighborhood. The separation
of this use with the adjoining residential use represents more open space than
normally required and the additional setback would simply leave the area open for
possible storage of commercial goods.
c. That the granting of a variance will not be materially detrimental to the
public welfare or injurious to property or improvements in such zone or neighborhood
in which the property is located. The encroachment into the rear yard area already
exists with the adjoining parcel to the west, with no detrimental effect.
d. That the granting of a variance will not be contrary to the objectives of the
General Plan. The General Plan is not affected.
PUBLIC HEARING: Proposed amendment to the City Code concernin~ the regulation of
installation of under~round utilities
City Attorney Lindberg briefly reviewed the contents of the proposed ordinance; it
will be a new chapter to the City Code. It is separated into three categories: the
first is as presently contained in the subdivision ordinance; the second category
covers undergrounding utilities for all new structures--residences and commercial
zones; and Article III is simply a procedural ordinance providing for the establish-
ment of an underground utility district to make use of the funds that will be available
on an annual basis to assist in defraying the cost of undergrounding these utilities.
Mr. Lindberg added that the City Council must hold a public hearing to designate
the districts. This ordinance has been reviewed by the utility companies and the
only questions they have raised were in regard to the two alternatives stated in
the proposed ordinance: (1) the Director of Public Works can post a 30 day written
notice on the property after which time he can order the disconnection and removal
of all overhead service wires, etc. This is the direct approach and there is a
provision for appeal. This type of action might not be feasible or effective. The
Director of Public Works then might deem that a more formal determination by the
City Council might be more feasible, and in those instances, he could go to the
second alternative that outlines the provisions for providing these underground
utilities and charging the cost to the property owner.
This ordinance was brought to the Commission because of their interest in general
utility undergrounding requirements. Revisions of the subdivision ordinance will
have to be made and it will be appropriate for this Commission to hold a public
hearing to add its approval to that of the underground utility committee.
This being the time and place as advertised, the public hearing was opened.
Mr. J. Dewes, ~derground Utilities Coordinator for San Diego, complimented the
City Attorney for what he considered a very good ordinance.
Mr. Virg Larsen, Pacific Telephone and Telegraph thanked the Commission for allowing
them to review this ordinance and work with them on it. He, too, complimented the
City Attorney on the ordinance.
There being no further comments, either for or against, the hearing was declared
closed.
Member York remarked that he wholeheartedly agreed with this ordinance, but was
reluctant to vote on something he hasn't read. Member Hyde commented that he did
not recall receiving the ordinance.
City Attorney Lindberg stated that there was a degree of urgency here.
Director Warren stated that the ordinance was mailed to the Commission two weeks
ago; the staff wanted to get this to them in advance of this meeting so that they
would have plenty of time to review it.
MS (York-Hyde) That this matter be brought back to the Commission for a formal
vote for the next meeting, May 27.
The motion failed to carry by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members York, Hyde
NOES: Members Guyer, Gregson, Rice and Stewart
ABSENT: Member Adams
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MSC (Guyer-Rice) Resolution of the City Planning Commission Recommending to the
RESOLUTION NO. 514 City Council the adoption of the Proposed Amendment to the
City Code concerning the Regulation of Installation of Underground
Utilities
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members Guyer, Rice, Hyde, Gregson, and Stewart
NOES: Member York
ABSENT: Member Adams
Findings be as follows:
a. There will be no substantial change from the regulations that now exist in
the subdivision ordinance.
b. A new provision would require underground service for all new construction
in the residential and commercial zones whether or not it is part of a subdivision,
and such provision will facilitate undergrounding of utility lines that may now exist
in the public right-of-way.
ADJOURNMENT
MSUC (Rice-Gregson) Meeting be adjourned to the meeting of May 27, 1968. The
meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Respectful ly s ubmi tted,
Jennie M. Fulasz
Secretary