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MINUTES OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA
6:00 p.m.
December 12, 2007
Council Chambers
276 Fourth Avenue
Chula Vista, California
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL I MOTIONS TO EXCUSE:
Members Present:
Member Absent:
Tripp, Felber, Moctezuma, Vinson, Bensoussan, Spethman
Clayton
6:07:24 PM
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS: Read into the record by Chair Tripp
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
No public input.
CONSENT ITEMS:
6:09:51 PM
MSC (Vinson/Spethman) to place item No.1 (Concordia Luther Church) on the consent
agenda.
Cmr. Tripp stated that, in his opinion, it would be productive to have the discussion of item NO.2
(Role of DRC) in advance of item NO.1 (Concordia Church).
Cmr. Bensoussan asked for clarification if Chair Tripp's intent was not to place the Concordia
Church item on consent agenda, but rather to just take it out of order, and stated that she feels it
would be beneficial to hear the item.
Cmr. Tripp responded affirmatively and asked if the maker of the motion would consider
withdrawing it.
Motion withdrawn.
2. Discussion:
Role and responsibility of Design Review Committee.
Background: Jim Hare gave a presentation on the roles and responsibilities of the Design
Review Committee as defined in the Municipal Code and the Planning and Building
Department's internal procedural policies for taking projects through the entitlement process.
Commission Discussion:
6:39:28 PM Cmr. Bensoussan pointed out that the handout that was given to the
Commission tonight, is a download of the DRC's web page, which states under Role and
Function of the DRC, "... this committee serves as an advisory board to the Planning
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Commission, City Council and Redevelopment Agency...". Additionally, during the
presentation, staff stated that "... the DRC recommendation is forwarded to the Planning
Commission... ". In her opinion, these two statements imply and reinforce the point that the
Commission has been making all along; that there is a benefit to following a process which
leads to the Planning Commission receiving a recommendation or decision from the DRC to
assist is their deliberation of a project. A Planning Commission review of a project ought not
to precede the DRC's review of the same project.
David Miller stated that he understands where the ambiguity may come from, i.e. what is
posted on the web site contradicting what the Code says, but the reality is that even if the
web site states something, which is inconsistent with what the Code says, the Code trumps
the web site.
6:43:52 PM Jim Hare stated that staff considers information or the outcome of a DRC
decision to be valuable and at all times will share that information in the staff report to the
Planning Commission. When the Planning Commission is acting on something that is
independent from a design review approval, i.e. a CUP with findings, even though there may
be a relationship in terms of the appearance of a building, the Code does not see it as
essential advice such that it would be an obligation that it go to DRC first.
Cmr. Bensoussan stated that one could make the same case with the recommendation from
the RCC, which always accompanies environmental documents that come before the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Hare responded that the code is very clear on the role of the RCC in that it acts on the
completion of environmental documents, which by law must be completed prior to the
Planning Commission certifying the document's completion and recommending to the City
Council its adoption.
6:46:08 PM Cmr. Felber clarified for his own understanding that even though a procedural
document contradicts the Municipal Code, the Code would ultimately be the governing
document.
Mr. Hare reaffirmed that the Municipal Code is the governing document and it exists for the
fair treatment of all individuals who approach government for a decision and has protections
built into it for the neighborhood, environment and the applicant.
Mr. Miller added that in the absence of a process, cities generally, through their Municipal
Code, often give direction for processes to be created outside of the Municipal Code. Not
having done the research, this is something that he could look into to determine whether or
not our Code would grant the ability to create such processes.
Cmr. Felber stated that he would like to see codified or a procedural policy document that
states that projects first go to DRC, with a caveat stating that if there is a unique
circumstance or hardship, at the discretion of the Director of Planning and Building, an
exception to that sequence in process could be made. A good example would be the case
of the Concordia Lutheran Church, being a non-profit and not wanting to go through the
expense of design review only to receive a non-approval vote from the Planning
Commission.
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6:57:51 PM Cmr. Vinson stated that the Commission consensus has been that they want to
have as much information about a project, including the DRC's comments, to make an
informed decision and to have answers at hand when approached with questions.
6:59:41 PM Cmr. Moctezuma stated that she concurs with her fellow commissioners and
asked, from a procedural standpoint, what recourse does the applicant have should they not
want to go to ORC.
Mr. Hare responded that formally, they would ask for a denial, stating that they do not wish
to submit a DRC application, that way they can move forward with the appeal process to the
City Council.
Furthermore, Mr. Hare stated that staff is in complete agreement with the Commission that
having the ORC's expertise adds value to the decision that the Commission will render.
When there are projects that have an obligation to the DRC approval, staff makes every
effort that they go there first. However, it would be inappropriate for the Planning
Commission to make a determination to send something to the DRC to get the benefit of
their expertise, when a DRC approval is not required.
Mr. Hare further stated that if after review of the code there is latitude to set up those
procedural policies and processes, it would be appropriate at that time to set up a joint
meeting of the Planning Commission and DRC to establish what those processes will entail.
It would certainly also be appropriate to ask for the DRC's opinion on this lead process. The
way the code reads right now, it isn't clear that one commission is subordinate to the other
and it would also be fair to state that the DRC might just as well like to know first if a CUP is
approved before they spend too much time evaluating, such things as the curvature of
arches, roof pitches, landscape plans, and the like.
7:03:53 PM Cmr. Spethman concurs that it's tremendously helpful and gives them
reassurance when projects have gone through DRC. Understanding that the Planning
Commission looks at land use issues, in his opinion, part of land use is circulation, siting,
and to a certain extent architecture. His recommendation would be that the Municipal Code
be changed to reflect the duties and responsibilities that are stated in the City's web site for
the DRC.
7:08:59 PM Cmr. Bensoussan stated that she believes she speaks for everyone on the
Commission in saying that they all highly value and respect the expertise and opinions of
the DRC. Having said that, she is also concerned that delays have occurred because the
DRC has problems with meeting a quorum, so the meetings end up being cancelled.
Perhaps this is due to the DRC being comprised of only five members as opposed to most
other Commissions that are comprised of seven or more members. Ms. Bensoussan
remembers a time when the Planning Commission had a number of vacancies, and they too
were experiencing problems in meeting a quorum. Perhaps this is something that the
Planning Commission could make a recommendation to the higher powers to look into
expanding the membership of the DRC from five to seven.
Mr. Miller stated that there is merit to Cmr. Bensoussan's recommendation however as a
point of clarification, if there are delays due to lack of a quorum of the ORe, the applicant
has the right to request that their item be reviewed by another body in order to move it
forward in the process and not delay it any further.
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7:21 :54 PM Cmr. Tripp stated that the Commission has been clear with their message of
wanting DRC comments before items go before the Planning Commission. Having said
that, he directed staff to move forward in researching and scheduling a joint workshop of the
Planning Commission and DRC at their earliest convenience.
7:22:06 PM Mr. Hare stated that the Planning and Building Department is undergoing
evaluating process improvements as a result of the department's assumption of the
Planning duties because of the reorganization of the Development Services Departments,
including processes involving CVRC. To summarize, the four key threads of discussion
tonight have been:
. There is consensus that the Commission wishes to see DRC consideration come first
. A request that the City Attorney and/or staff look at provisions in the code to modify or
create processes
. The possibility of amending the code to include specific processes, and
. The possibility of increasing the number of members on the DRC
Mr. Hare indicated that he would be passing these recommendations along to the Director of
Planning and Building, and the Assistant Planning. Most likely there would be updates on
the progress being made and once the information is finalized, there would be a joint
workshop of the DRC and Planning Commission.
1. Public Hearing:
Consideration of the applications filed by Brookfield-Shea
Otay, LLC, to develop 3.9 acre Concordia Lutheran
Church site, located at 267 East Oxford Street:
. PCZ 07-08; a rezone from the R-1-7 Single Family
Residential Zone to the R-1-5-P Single Family
Residential Zone, with a Precise Plan Modifying District;
. PCM 08-02; a Precise Plan to establish Precise Plan
development standards, architectural and landscape
design guidelines;
. PCS 07-07; a Tentative Subdivision Map to subdivide 3.9
acres into 24 residential and 2 open space lots, served
by a new public residential street.
Chair Tripp thanked the applicant for their indulgence and patience in taking the items out of
order.
The Chair asked if it was still the Commission's pleasure to place this item on the Consent
Agenda.
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MSC (Vinson/Spethman) (6-0-0-1) that this item be placed on the Consent Agenda and
that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution PCZ 07-08; PCM 08-02; and PCS 07-
07; recommending that the City Council adopt the Mitigated Negative Declaration and
Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting Program IS 07-31; and adopt the Draft City
Council Resolution and Draft Ordinance, based on the findings and subject to the
conditions contained therein. Motion carried.
7:33:50 PM
Adjourned to a Special Planning Commission meeting on December 18, 2007.
Submitted by
Diana Vargas
Secretary to the Planning Commission