HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 2008/02/25MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION &CHULA VISTA REDEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA
6:00 p.m.
February 25, 2008
Council Chambers
276 Fourth Avenue
Chula Vista, California
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
Planning Commission Members Present:
Tripp, Vinson, Felber, Moctezuma,
Bensoussan, Clayton, Spethman
CVRC Members Present:
CVRC Member Absent:
INTRODUCTORY REMARKS: 6:05:37 PM
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Lewis, Paul, Reyes, Rooney, Munoz, Salas
Desrochers
Read into the record by Chair Tripp
Russ Hall expressed his appreciation for the Commission/Corporation's deliberation of the
merits for the ordinance amendment. He expressed concern with the Jentz Initiative, which if
passed would limit construction of certain types of buildings that are needed in this area and are
traditionally over three stories high, i.e. hospital and/or courthouse buildings.
6:09:42 PM
1. Public Hearing: PCA 08-03; An ordinance amending the City of Chula Vista Zoning
Ordinance to add Chapter 19.57, Overlay Districts, and Section
19.57-010 General Purpose and 19.57.020 Third Avenue Overlay
District. The Third Avenue Overlay District will establish a three
story or 45-foot maximum .height for parcels and portions of
parcels fronting on Third Avenue between "E" Street and "G"
Street. It will also require that any newly constructed buildings or
additions to existing buildings, utilize nationally recognized
"Green" building standards.
Cmr. Moctezuma and Member Salas recused themselves from the dais due to a Conflict of
Interest.
6:11:56 PM
Nancy Lytle reported that the City is proposing amending the Zoning Ordinance to establish an
Overlay District, which is a zoning tool used to apply additional zoning requirements to a
geographic territory. The district under consideration is currently regulated by the Urban Core
Specific Plan (UCSP) and is for parcels and portions of parcels fronting on Third Avenue
between "E" and "G" Streets.
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The first new requirement in the ordinance is the height provision, which stated that the
maximum permitted height for newly constructed buildings and additions to existing buildings in
the Third Avenue Overlay District shall be three stories or up to the height of 45 feet.
The height limitation currently applies to all parcels within the Village 2 designation of the UCSP,
but this new Overlay will affect seven additional parcels along E and G Streets.
The second requirement applies to new construction and additions to existing buildings, and
states that they shall be required to meet nationally-recognized Green Building construction
standards. The Green Building requirement will affect all parcels within the Overlay District.
6:17:31 PM Ed Batchelder and Andrew McGuire gave an overview of the points-based LEED
certification standards.
6:21:45 PM
Staff Recommendation: That the Planning Commission and CVRC consider the addendum to
FEIR 06-01 and adopt resolutions recommending that the City Council adopt the ordinance
adding a chapter to the Zoning Ordinance to establish an overlay district limiting building heights
of any newly constructed buildings or additions to existing building to three stories or 45 feet in
height, for parcels and portions of parcels fronting on Third Avenue between E and G Streets,
and require that any newly constructed buildings or additions to existing buildings utilize
nationally-recognized "Green" building standards.
6:27:37 PM
Comments and Questions:
6:29:39 PM Cmr. Clayton asked if a calamity were to befall an existing building along the
overlay district, would they be required to build to the new standards or would they be able to
restore to the previous standards.
6:30:16 PM Brad Remp stated that they would need to comply with current standards, and
noted that for major catastrophes, in order to qualify for FEMA funds to reconstruct, they would
be required to meet the new standards.
6:31:52 PM Member Rooney asked who would be responsible for certifying that the new
buildings have been built to LEED certification standards.
Mr. Remp responded that currently there is no staff member qualified to do that type of
certification, but we're moving forward in obtaining the necessary training. Until such time, the
inspections and certification would most likely come from an outside party.
6:35:42 PM Member Reyes inquired about the rationale behind setting the height limit to three
stories vs. four or fve stories.
Nancy Lytle responded that although she was not present in the initial discussions, most likely it
was based on maintaining the historic character of the urban core district, taking into account
the narrow parcels and how they interface with the small buildings around it.
Mary Ladiana confirmed Ms. Lytle's statement that the lot depth mandated looking at a lower
height.
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6:41:09 PM Public Hearing Opened.
6:41:28 PM Lisa Cohen, CEO of the Chula Vista Chamber of Commerce, stated she was there
to offer their continued support for the UCSP and support in general for "Green" building. The
Chamber encourages the creation of environmentally sound policies that reward responsible
business practices.
6:42:38 PM Leo Miras stated the "Green" building caveat under this proposal is very weak and
will have no impact on the environment. -The City needs a more aggressive Green policy in
order to be able to meet the goal of reducing greenhouse emissions 20% below 1990 levels by
the year 2010.
6:45:39 PM Greg Mattson, President of Third Avenue Business Association stated that TABA
supports sustainable construction, however, they feel the language in the ordinance is too
vague, and believes that Green building standards should be encouraged, but not mandated.
Mr. Mattson also stated TABA is concerned with the Overlay District's restriction on
development opportunities and believes that it dilutes the UCSP land use guidelines and
policies. TABA board does not support the City's overlay district as proposed, and are in
support of the UCSP land use guidelines along Third Avenue, i.e. densities, land use mixes,
height etc.; it allows the gateway tips and tail parcels to be at higher densities and height.
6:50:34 PM Peter Watry, representing Crossroads II, stated they oppose the Ordinance
Amendment because it is a ploy to defeat the Jentz Initiative in the June election. If the Jentz
Initiative were to pass, it would become law, however, the Ordinance can be amended at any
time; he urged the Board and Commission to vote against it.
6:53:40 PM Mitch Thompson asked for clarification on an earlier statement that there is no story
limit except for public buildings, yet there is language in the ordinance which states that there is
a 3 story limit.
Ann Moore stated that the language in the staff report references the UCSP, however, the
proposed Ordinance Amendment is capping it at 3 stories or a maximum of 45 feet.
6:55:18 PM Glenn Googins stated that Green Building construction is a very good idea when it
is set up as an incentive and where it is applied to public projects. The UCSP also includes
important provisions that encourage Green Building standards by allowing additional
development intensities. However, he is concerned when Green Building is a mandatory
requirement and applied to private construction.
Mr. Googins also stated that a 45 foot height restriction for the entire Third Avenue is not
appropriate and would urge the members to stand up for the process and development
standards that were set forth in the UCSP.
7:00:58 PM Jose Cortes applauded the City for adopting Green Building standards. He
supports the UCSP, but opposes height restriction along Third Avenue and believes we need
higher densities.
7:06:02 PM CVRC and Planning Commission Close Public Hearing:
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7:13:17 PM
A discussion followed on what constitutes a story and at what point do you start to count floors
when you are considering underground or above level parking lots. A point of clarification that
staff made is that parking lots do not count towards the FAR, but do count as stories.
7:18:06 PM Comments/Discussion:
7:18:26 PM Cmr. Bensoussan stated that she believes the Ordinance Amendment is compatible
and consistent with the vision of the UCSP and General Plan and preserves the historic
character along Third Avenue.
Cmr. Bensoussan indicated she would like to see tighter language for the Green Building
requirement and recommended the language read that construction follow a nationally-
recognized Green Building standard or equivalent to LEED Silver certification, or 20% above
Title 24 standards.
7:24:16 PM Cmr. Felber stated that the' key to a successful, vibrant Third Avenue downtown
district is to put feet on the street. He is concerned that imposing strict Green Building
standards may be cost-prohibitive and will be a deterrent to the development that is needed.
7:29:10 PM Cmr. Clayton stated she believes that this ordinance imposes restrictions that could
be perceived as infringing on property rights of the owners of these parcels, therefore, she does
not support it.
7:30:12 PM Cmr. Spethman stated he likes the height variable that the tips and tail parcels add
to the overall design flow along Third Avenue and would not like to see it turned into a bowling
alley corridor; he is also concerned that a restrictive ordinance will impact the property owners
along Third Avenue in terms of resale value or modification of their properties.
7:32:39 PM Cmr. Vinson stated he wholeheartedly supports the City's endeavor to go Green
and believes that its an excellent marketing tool to attract investors. The City can become a
nationally-recognized progressive City leading the way in Smart Growth development practices
and tying it in with cutting edge green building standards and technology.
7:34:52 PM Cmr. Tripp stated that the UCSP and other documents have been developed to
allow flexibility in an area of our city that is fading; being too restrictive is a disincentive for
investment and if we want redevelopment to occur, we need to be flexible in order to be
attractive enough for investment.
7:38:48 PM Member Munoz stated that many of his sentiments have already been expressed by
previous speakers, particularly Cmr. Felber, and stated that he is in support of the Ordinance
Amendment.
7:39:30 PM Member Rooney applauds the City's attempt to incorporate LEED standards,
however, he has reservation on the way it's being handled. Other jurisdictions are incorporating
LEED standards by offering incentives to the developer, i.e. LEED Silver in exchange for a
bonus FAR point on their property; a much more positive approach than mandating it. He
expressed concern with the expertise and specialized training required to inspect these
buildings as they are constructed and to certify their compliance when completed.
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Mr. Rooney indicated that the tips and tail parcels are prime parcels in prominent intersections
and we are forfeiting or reducing their value by limiting their height. Here again, the incentive to
build Green at a higher standard would be in exchange for an increased FAR.
7:43:39 PM Member Reyes stated that in urban design, nodes are generally used as landmark
or gateway demarcation parcels to give character and stability to an area. By capping the
height and density in these areas, this is a disincentive for investment because it doesn't pencil
out financially for the developer, therefore, you end up with single story development,
eliminating the opportunity to create the environment to sustain a vibrant urban core.
7:46:35 PM Member Paul stated that going Green is a noble cause, however, one has to
recognize the trepidation that some of the small business owners, i.e. TABA, must feel when
considering the cost of going Green. As previously stated, Green building certification should
be used as an incentive to go higher, i.e. 4 stories at 45 feet, and not be a mandate.
7:49:06 PM Chair Lewis stated that he supports the Green Building practice, however, is
concerned that it appears the Ordinance is exclusively endorsing LEED certification over other
nationally-recognized programs. Green building practice is defined in many different ways
depending on who you ask. What is needed is a comprehensive standard that measures how
to reduce the cost and use of a building and how do we make it sustainable and environmentally
sound. Furthermore, based on his professional research, he has found that developers will
voluntarily build green because sustainable development is profitable. Sustainable development
adds value to your building and your community; there is a demand for it that will attract
development. The UCSP is plenty clear on the building heights and doesn't need to be
modified
Chair Lewis stated he would like to make a recommendation amending the ordinance to
maintain the spirit and intent of the UCSP with regard to height and strongly recommend that
new buildings and additions to existing buildings consider employing sustainable development.
MSC (Vinson/ Bensoussan) that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
Ordinance as presented.
7:57:35 PM Cmr. Felber offered for consideration an amendment to the motion stating that the
"tips and tail" parcels be left alone and to incorporate language similar to what Chair Lewis
offered regarding a strong recommendation that Green building standards be used, but not
mandated.
7:58:39 PM Mike Shirey noted that the Maker and Second of the original motion need to be in
agreement to amend the motion.
Cmr. Vinson accepted the amendment, but Cmr. Bensoussan did not.
MSC (Vinson/Bensoussan)(4-2-1-0) to approve the motion as originally stated that the
Planning Commission recommends approval of the Ordinance as presented. Motion
carried with Cmrs. Felber and Clayton voting against it and Cmr. Moctezuma abstaining.
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MSC (Rooney! )amending the Ordinance as follows:
• That the tips and tail parcel be reduced from 84 feet, as designated by the UCSP,
to 65 feet, with an incentive to allow it to be at 84 feet subject to construction
being certified minimally at a LEED Silver rating or a similar nationally-recognized
Green Building standard, and
• That the center parcels, between the tips and tails, that have a 45 foot or 3 story
restriction be allowed as an incentive to go to 50 feet and 4 stories subject to
construction being certified minimally at a LEED Silver rating or a similar
nationally-recognized Green Building standard. Motion fails due to lack of a
second.
MSC (Reyes/Rooney )(5-0-t-1) amending the Ordinance as follows:
• That the tips and tail parcel be reduced from 84 feet, as designated by the UCSP,
to 65 feet, with an incentive to allow it to be at 84 feet subject to construction
being certified minimally at a LEED Silver rating or a similar nationally-recognized
Green Building standard, and
• That the center parcels, between the tips and tails, that have a 45 foot or 3 story
designation be allowed as an incentive to go to 4 stories (at 45 feet) subject to
construction being certified minimally at a LEED Silver rating or a similar
nationally-recognized Green Building standard. Motion carried with Member
Salas abstaining and Member Desrochers absent.
8:08:23 PM
Meeting adjourned.
Submitted by
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Diana Vargas
Secretary to the Planning Commission