HomeMy WebLinkAboutRCC MIN 1992/08/24MINUTES OF A SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING
Resource Conservation Commission
Chula Vista, California
6:00 p.m. Council Chambers
Monday, June 22, 1992 Public Services Building
CALL MEETING TO ORDER/ROLL CALL: Meeting was called to order at 6:07 p.m. by
Chairperson Hall. City Staff Environmental Review Coordinator Doug Reid called roll. Present:
Commissioners Fox, Kracha and Ghougassian. Absent: Ray. [Commissioner Johnson arrived
at 6:10 p.m.l
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of May 18, 1992 were not approved due to lack of
quorum present from that meeting.
1. Public Hearing on the Historic District Study PCM-88-08. Martin Miller presented a
brief outline of the study. He noted the action to be taken by the commission would be to
accept the study as presented, modify the study as presented, or take no action. Patrick
Crowley, the author of the study, was introduced to answer questions of the commission.
Mr. Crowley's slide presentation was of historic buildings. He answered questions on creation
of historic districts versus preservation of historic sites. The staff report included five
alternatives; recommendation by staff was the Historic District Study of February 1992.
Discussion was held on the economic and market value impact to the surrounding properties
and to its property owners.
The public hearing was opened by Chairperson Hall at 6:57 p.m.
Hector Diez de Bonilla, 621 Del Mar, is against the plan for redistricting. More homes from
2nd Street north to National City and 4th Avenue between I & K exceed the standards for
historical designation. Noted that those owners have restored their own homes without
government influence.
Bob Ford, owner of property at 666 and 668 Del Mar since 1940 -questioned the feasibility
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Berta Alicia Gonzales owns a Spanish house at 629 Del Mar, where three generations were
raised in that home. Part of the land behind her property has been acquired by a business on
2nd Avenue for parking purposes. Ghougassian questioned her fear of loss of ownership to
the government. Mr. Crowley noted that historic designation would mean major changes
cannot be made without approval by site board. City acts as an agent to protect the owner
and would control the exterior of building to keep in conformance with historic district.
Paul Goya's home, 682 2nd Ave., is designated potential. He is against the study because
he doesn't want to go through government control. Sees no benefit in historical districting.
Frank Williams spoke for his daughter living at 647 Del Mar. The house was bought with
intention to build another home on the large lot. He suggested selected homes be chosen for
historical designation throughout area, but not to designate a whole block area.
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Kracha asked if the residents who received the Historic District Study were within the
proposed blocked area. Notice was sent to those within 1000 feet of proposed area.
AI Belmontez, 681 Del Mar suggested the Task Force also determine which homes are in need
of repair. He also questioned who would pay for the restoration. Invasion of privacy would
be disturbed if the quiet neighborhood is open to public viewing. Some residents have made
improvements on their homes but now don't qualify for designation because of renovations.
Gabriela Bonilla, 629 Del Mar -multi-generations of families in that home. Expressed lack of
privacy with historical designation.
John Yamata, 690 Del tJlar, related homeowners are already taking care of own properties.
Corinne McColl, 642 2nd Ave., lives in the historic Harris & Frank Home, which was moved
to its present location to preserve the home. She spoke in favor of the historic districting.
Janet Griffin, 647 Del Mar, takes care of her own property. She presented a list of attendees
to a meeting of residents affected by this study.
Maggie Helm, 162 Mankato, is within 1000 feet of the study. 1) not all old homes are
historical; 2) don't deny owners of control; 3) increase in traffic for an R-1 zoned
neighborhood. The difference is in their large lots; 4) worked to save orchard houses; 5) not
much is left on 3rd Ave. of historical value, although it should have been saved; 6) on Del Mar
towards J Street, homes are not much older and not a family home. Her home is not as old
as the others; 7) E & F Streets and 2nd & 3rd St. are really historical (built in the 20's and
30'sl but they're small; 81 don't do an historical district as the area is not that big. Further
questions by Ms. Helm included: 1) cost to the city to maintain historical district? 2)
Restrictions to keep it historic? 3) The Money home on 2nd Ave. has a modern home in front;
how to deal with that?
Dick Schuller, 650 Del Mar, opposes the study.
Na^cy Parls, Eves at 124 Hilltop a^d owns the proper±y a*_ 220 I S±reet. Her home is not
historical, although it is in the study.
Frances Carvajal, 633 Del Mar, home built around 1926. Will lack privacy.
Corinne McCall noted her home was built around 1896 and still remains to be a family home.
Marjorie Wheeling Watrons, 646 Del Mar Ave., against government control. This study is
untimely introduced due to the falling economy. City should not take control.
J.L. Craig, 630 2nd Ave., wanted to know if residents will know the outcome of the vote.
Informed it would be voted on this evening.
The public hearing was closed by Chairperson Hall at 8:00 p.m.
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Discussion by Commission included the following:
• Kracha -The first presentation of this study was heard over three months ago,
including the alternatives. Noted it was not presented the same way this evening as
it was then. He originally supported option #4, but now supports #3.
• Ghougassian will vote in support of the public heard tonight.
• Johnson -questioned who pays for renovations already made. Individuals are not now
required to make any changes.
• Fox -noted his support for the people and expressed concern that a plan of this
magnitude but be forced on the residents. Support option #3.
• Johnson asked Crowley to look at alternatives to preserve Chula Vista. He said that
this was just a study, not a proposal.
• Hall voiced her objection to historical districting.
• Fox -noted p. 611, the wording of major advantage not to seek consent of property
owners, and his objection to such wording. Favors option #3.
• Kracha -regardless of decision and recommendation of RCC, the issue is still going to
Planning Commission. Residents were advised to attend all public hearings held
regarding this issue.
After discussion, it was then moved and seconded (Kracha/Fox) to forward the Historical
District Study to the Planning Commission, recommending Alternative #3, no formal public
participation. Further discussion by Fox - on p. 6-14, no listing of criteria with addition of
historical site. Mr. Crowley noted Alternative #3 will undo the current duties of RCC,
however, Doug Reid corrected that voting for no formal districts would not affect RCC's
duties. Mr. Johnson supports #3 and encouraged residents to give value and significance to
their opinions. The motion was unanimously carried, 5-0.
Following the motion, Mr. Fox asked when the "5125,000 over 4 years" was to take effect.
Mr. Crowley answered the criteria for historical sites needs to first be established; money not
yet spent. It was then MSUP (Fox/Kracha) under RCC's stated duties to correct a sentence
to read, "Recommend to Planning Commission and Council that RCC establish or review its
current criteria for historical site designation", deleting the wording, "if there are any"; motion
carried unanimously 5-0.
[A five minute recess was taken.]
2. MaryAnn Miller reviewed EIR 91-05, Telegraph Canyon Estates (Baldwin). Discussion
and questions from Commission included the following:
• Ghougassian -noise impacts from 125 could be a future impact.
• Kracha - p. S-5, proposed project will precede the Otay Ranch project. What would
happen if they do not become a part of Chula Vista? What happens to funding of
Chula Vista schools? Steve Doyle of Baldwin, 11975 EI Camino Real, clarified.
• Kracha -Questioned air quality, park, recreation and open space. Park fees were
collected and distributed within districts. It is noted Mello Roos is proposed for
schools only. Builder fees pay for the public services.
• Hall -Discussed fiscal impact study; profitable balance in Eastlake High School,
considering elementary schools are going in the red. Auto license fees collected.
Effect of tax money collected. Effect of traffic on 125 if it becomes a toll road. Subir
Wada, City Engineer & Traffic discussed the toll road.
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• Ghougassian -air pollution and traffic.
• Hall -exclusive mobile homes needs to be rezoned by council. Storage for water and
water line to be built; until then, it's under permit allocation program from Otay Water.
Following discussion, it was MSUP (Ghougassian/Fox) to recommend certification of the EIR
91-05, motion carried unanimously, 5-O. It was further moved and seconded (Kracha/Fox)
to forward RCC's comment and concern of air pollution, cumulative unmitigated issues to the
region; motion carried unanimously, 5-O.
3. Items far the Planning Commission Agenda for the meeting of June 24, 1992 were
reviewed and included the following:
1). Concerning lack of open space at Date-Palm Villas previously reviewed, Doug
Reid reported they did increase open space but did not delete number of units.
2). Consideration of SPA Amendment/Kaiser Permanent, EIR-92-01 -air quality
improvement plan to be reviewed later.
31. Eastlake SPA Plan Amendment, EIR-92-01, air quality improvement plan to be
reviewed later.
4). GPA 92-02 -already reviewed EIR. Council and all cities in San Diego approved
the plan; it is now back for implementation.
5). ZAV 92-12 -Continued to next agenda.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Ghougassian -issue on use of clean fuel on busses and other public transportation for Chula
Vista; Doug Reid reported transportation coordinator is reviewing. Other cities have done it.
Doug Reid reported that with the budget crisis there will be major cuts in RCC's budget.
Kracha -Mayor wants to start Earth Day Commission; meeting to be held July 9th.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned by Chairperson Hall at 9:21 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
EXPRESS SECRETARIAL SERVICES
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Barbara Taylor