HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1998/05/18MINUTES OF A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING/WORKSHOP OF THE CITY COUNCIL, PLANNING
COMMISSION, AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE
Monday, May 18, 1998
5:43 p.m.
1. ROLL CALL:
Council Conference Room
Administration Building
CAL~ TO ORDER
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Council Members: Moot, Rindone, Salas, and Mayor Horton.
Planning Commissioners: O'Neill, Ray, Thomas, and Chair Davis.
GMOC Members: Dull, Fisher, Munoz, Peter, Thomas, and Chair
Hubbard
Council Member: Padilla
Planning Commissioners: Aguilar, Tarantino, Willett
GMOC Members: Aguirre, Hyde, Tarantino
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Growth Management Oversight Commission Minutes from
March 26, 1998 (GMOC Members only).
MSC (Thomas/Fisher) to approve the GMOC minutes of March 26, 1998. Motion
carried 6-0-3 (Aguirre, Hyde, and Tarantino absent).
Bob Leiter, Planning Director, presented Chuck Peter with a plaque recognizing
his retirement from the GMOC. Mr. Peter had been a charter member of the GMOC
since 1988.
BUSINESS
3. PUBLIC HEARING: PCM 98-12 REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF THE GROWTH
MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT COMMISSION'S 1997 ANNUAL REPORT - The GMOC's 1997 Annual
Report on compliance with the City's Quality-of-Life Threshold Standards focuses
On the period from 7/1/96 to 6/30/97. Pertinent issues identified in later 1997
and early 1998 are also included. The workshop provides the opportunity to
comprehensively review the Report's findings and recommendations. Staff
recommends that:
The Planning Commission accept the 1997 GMOC Annual Report and
recommendations as presented, and adopt a motion recommending that Council
do the same; and
2. The Council:
Accept the GMOC's 1997 Annual Report and recommendations contained
therein; and
b. Direct staff to undertake actions necessary to implement those
recommendations as presented in the "1997 GMOC Recommenda-
tions/Implementing Actions Summary."
Tris Hubbard, Chair of the GMOC, presided over the meeting.
Committee's recommendations under each category as follows:
POLICE The threshold is not being met.
GMOC recommendations:
He went over the
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· City Council support the Department's efforts to adequately staff and fund
the completion of a strategic plan by October 1998.
· City Council provide adequate staff and funding for the completion of a
needs assessment, siting analysis, and concept design for a new Police Facility;
and that the Police Department provide the GMOC with a progress report in October
1998.
· City Council adopt the Public Facilities Development Impact Fees and Civic
Center Master Plan Updates.
· Police Department continue to evaluate and implement methods for the
reduction of false alarms, including participation in the MODEL STATES false
alarm reduction program; and that the Police Department provide the GMOC with a
progress report in October 1998.
· Police Department complete the installation of a Computer Aided Dispatch
by December 1998.
Police Department re-evaluate the Threshold standard for Priority 1 Calls
For Service based on the findings of the strategic plan and data collected by the
new CAD system; and that the Police Department provide the GMOC with a progress
report by October 1999.
Questions and Comments:
Councilmember Rindone stated that during the last decade the growth rate was
approximately 3%. What will be the percentage growth rate between now and the
year 2015.
Tris Hubbard, GMOC Chair, responded that it will go from 3% to approximately 6%
if the estimates are correct. That will be approximately an average of 1600
units per year as opposed to the 800 that we have been experiencing.
Councilmember Salas stated there is a different formula in figuring out how many
residents or dwelling units are going to be anticipated in the future. In the
staff report, there appears to be in the future a higher number of people per
dwelling unit.
Mr. Hubbard responded that the schools keep a generation formula. In the past,
we have been talking about children per household which has been .30. This past
year, the Elementary School District experienced a .44 generation which has
impacted schools. If that continues, we will have more residents per household.
Councilmember Salas asked if this is an indication that we had a real tough
economy or is that an aberration that it is going up? This could skew our
projections for the population growth because that is a significant number.
Mr. Hubbard responded that when the economy is good families tend to have more
children.
Councilmember Moot asked what was the correlation between the false alarms and
meeting the compliance standards with Priority 1 and 2 calls. It was always his
understanding that a false alarm was typically a burglar alarm.
Mr. Hubbard responded that they are classified as a Priority 1 call. They
definitely have an impact on the Calls For Service. Without the false alarms,
there is no question that the Police Department would be meeting the threshold.
Mayor Horton asked what was going to be his strategy to cut down that percentage.
Chief Rick Emerson replied that in 1995, we responded to 7,108 alarm calls. Of
those, 108 were actual valid alarms where someone had actually broken into a home
or business. That means 7,000 responses were false. As a result, we have been
chosen to be a part of the Model States Program. There are twelve cities in the
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Program who will look at trying to change ordinances and examine the responses.
We are going to have to work with the developers and the people who install
alarms. The Model States Program also talks about working with the private
companies to have them make the first response instead of having an officer
respond. The homeowners would get a response, but they also would be paying for
that service rather than having police officers respond to those calls.
Councilmember Moot asked if we shouldn't factor in some percentage so it doesn't
skew the numbers so badly. If we know statically that this has been going on for
a period time, why do we continue to analyze the threshold knowing that the
numbers are skewed by a statistically significant false alarm rate.
Chief Emerson replied that one of the issues we are looking at, and that is why
the CAD system is such an important component, is doing an analysis on the
location of responses and how many times we respond to the same location. We can
then cut those down and make our responses for Priority 1 and 2 calls. When the
threshold was initially put into effect in the mid 80s, we don't know how valid
that is in the late 1990s.
Com/nissioner O'Neill asked how does it break down between residential and
commercial and to what extent are we looking at residential as the major problem.
Chief Emerson stated the majority of the responses are for residential alarms,
but there are a lot of commercial establishments that do have alarms that are set
off with employee problems. From a commercial standpoint you have more employee
problems; residential you have more system design problems.
FIRE/EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. The threshold is not being met.
GMOC recommendations:
· City Council adopt the 1998 Fire Station Master Plan Update which
adequately addresses fire needs for the City.
· City Council adopt the Public Facilities Development impact Fee Update
which provides for adequate fiscal resources for needed facilities.
· Fire Department complete the installation of Computer Aided Dispatch and
Mobile Data Computer systems by December 1998.
· Fire Department staff continue to assess causes in the deterioration of
travel time rates since 1989 and mitigation strategies including expansion of the
signal pre-emption system. A progress report on these assessments be included
in next year's Fire Threshold report.
· City Council approve the 1998-99 CIP request for the installation of a
signal pre-emption system for the Fourth Avenue corridor (Phase II).
Questions and Comments:
Councilmember Rindone stated he didn't see anything that addressed our future
expansion in the Otay Ranch and the way streets are being laid out. This will
affect the response times. Was that discussed?
Mr. Hubbard replied that this was a very valid observation. Instead of the very
square street development program in the east, we are doing what other cities are
doing. It looks very aesthetic to have roads that wander with green belts, but
it does reduce travel time. GMOC did look at that and certainly that is a factor
in the deterioration of travel time. It will determine the placement of fire
stations. It has been addressed in the Fire Department Master Plan.
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TRAFFIC: Threshold is met, but there is a potential for non-compliance.
GMOC recommendations:
· Department of Public Works continue to closely monitor the segments listed
on page 11 of the 1997 GMOC Annual Report and other key arterial segments such
as H Street from 1-805 to Fourth Avenue and include them in each annual TMP
Report.
Department of Public Works provide the GMOC with 3 to 5 year forecasts of
traffic conditions for major arterial streets as part of its annual Traffic
Threshold report.
City Council adopt the forthcoming Growth Management Ordinance amendments
regarding development phasing to ensure maintenance of Traffic Thresholds in
eastern Chula Vista prior to and after the completion of SR-125.
· City Council continue to pursue ongoing dialogue with MTDB to fund and
conduct right-of-way and design studies for the extension of the trolley line
from I-5 to the Otay Ranch project's northwest boundary at Telegraph Canyon Road.
The future Otay Ranch trolley line will not materialize without these studies.
· Department of Public Works continue to evaluate a grade separation at the
trolley tracks for major arterial streets along the I-5 corridor.
Questions and Comments:
Councilmember Moot asked if there is a way to track the effects on compliance of
air quality standards if SR-125 is not built and will it take us over our air
quality threshold standards.
Bob Leiter referred to the fact that the EIR that was prepared for us on SR-125
addressed that issue.
John Lippitt, Public Works Director, stated there is a no project alternative in
the EIR and because of the congestion without SR-125, it will have an impact on
air quality. Air quality is more a regional issue. Certainly in the area around
Bonita and the eastern area, the air quality won't be as high, but he would have
to check this out.
Councilmember Moot stated that this is something that we may want to try to
quantify and measure. As attempts get made to stop SR-125 for environmental
reasons, it may be significant for us to at least point out that there is also
a detrimental environmental impact for not building it.
Councilmember Rindone mentioned that in the next two to three years this
recommendation by GMOC is extremely critical, and sometimes it is easy to
overlook it because it seems so far away. We do have the right-of-way, but we
don't have the dollars to construct the trolley in the eastern territory, so it
is important that we are very adamant at the table with MTDB to ensure that we
are lined up for the light rail services.
Chair Davis asked if we ever looked at projections in the future where we may go
to some one-way streets to alleviate the traffic problems. Has that ever been
studied.
Mr. Lippitt stated that we looked at options on H Street, west of 805, because
it is only four lanes between Third and Hilltop. A one-way is not going to be
a good option for a street which borders two freeways. One-way streets when they
are 1/4 mile apart, don't work very well.
Councilmember Salas stated Council recently received a report on the tremendous
unanticipated increase in bus ridership. When we are talking about light rail,
we are looking at that as a long-range type project because it is so expensive.
She felt Council should try to put more emphasis on the development of public
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transportation as another means of alleviating the problem which she did not see
in the GMOC report.
Mr. Hubbard stated that would certainly be an issue which might help mitigate the
increased traffic.
Mayor Horton stated that the bus system is more flexible and less costly also.
Member Peter suggested that next year staff look at major arteries seven to ten
years out and have that as a regular part of this review. In going through the
review this year, the initial report was very complete, but it really didn't show
any real new type problems. In our discussions, someone asked what happens if
SR-125 doesn't get built and that changed their report. The traffic engineer
said he couldn't answer then, but he had already turned that information over to
go through a modelling study. When the information was available, he would get
it back to us. Several weeks later we got a two-page report back. Those two
pages were the most enlightening pages that we have had in ten years. It showed
the impact with no SR-125 and growth at projected rates. We would never have
found that if we were only trying to look three to five years out. There is a
real good justification for trying to look out further into the future.
Councilmember Rindone stated that one thing he has recently seen staff do that
has been affective, and it was not included is a signal with the
protective/permission lights on the main arteries. It does have the impact of
getting the traffic through a major intersection a lot faster. It is expensive
to convert, but he wanted to comment for the record that at least for the older
sections, we should continue to do that wherever financially feasible because it
is effective.
SCHOOLS (chula Vista Elementary and Sweetwater Union High School). The threshold
has been met.
GMOC recommendations:
examine issues such as:
acquisition of school sites.
· City Council suggest to the Chula Vista Elementary school and the
Sweetwater Union High School Boards that they jointly address mutual growth
related matters including the following:
a. The determination if a study to adjust the student generation ratio
is needed;
b. The development of a campaign to educate the public about the need
for passage of a school facilities construction and modernization bond
measure; and
c. Consideration of the formation of a policy committee to review
issues of mutual concern on an ongoing basis.
City in coordination with District staff should continue to comprehensively
phasing, site location selection, sizing, and
Questions and Comments:
Councilmember Moot felt this threshold standard should be re-examined. When
class reduction size became law, we have brand new elementary schools that have
many portable classrooms on them. He felt portable classrooms to be substandard.
When you put portable classrooms on a school that takes up a playing field or
something else and puts kids in substandard school buildings, it affects the
overall quality of life and of education. The solution to having an adequate
number of schools for students is not simply to put portable classrooms on an
existing school site.
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Mr. Hubbard stated that Councilman Moot raises some valid issues. We have had
some very long discussions regarding the very points raised. One of the major
questions was what affect do portable classrooms on a campus having on the
quality of education. Portable classrooms are taking up a lot of space which
raises some serious questions. In terms of school campus size, traditionally
elementary school campuses were built for 600 students. But now, schools are
having to increase that because of the increase in student generation. This is
why we made the recommendation that a joint effort between the school districts
and the City would be valuable to all.
Councilmember Rindone stated that GMOC should look next year at not only about
the increased portables, but also the issue that schools are built out. This
hasn't been looked at. There is not room to put more portables even if we had
the money to do that. He suggested that a review should be made of the schools
that are built out or nearly built out.
Mr. Hubbard stated the point is very valid. We are seeing that schools are
becoming the center point for human resource services and that takes up extra
space. In addition, because of the welfare-to-work program, we are needing
additional sites for child care; the most logical place for that are the school
sites where the children can be provided for in their own neighborhood which
takes up space. We are seeing some major changes and that re-emphasizes the need
for working together to try to resolve these problems.
Councilmember Moot stated he would like to see staff come forward with a
recommendation to change this threshold to address this issue and to analyze the
threshold under two standards: the exiting standard and a proposed changed
threshold standard. This is an issue that if we don't meet it head on quickly,
we will get behind the curve. We really need to be prepared next year at this
time to make a decision as to whether this threshold needs to be addressed.
Councilmember Rindone stated that school boards tend to be very proprietary, and
they feel this is their determination. However, he felt this would be an
excellent item for a joint workshop.
Dr. Billings from the Elementary School District stated to quality for any state
funds in the future, there are thresholds that have to be met in terms of state
building standards which means that a major portion of any new school needs to
be constructed in relocatable facilities. That is part of the state
reimbursement process. Secondly, the number of relocatables that have become so
apparent in the year is a result of class size reduction. There were not
sufficient funds to build new facilities to accommodate the number of classrooms
needed to be located in the District. Relocatable buildings run approximately
$30 square foot; new construction runs well over $100 square foot. We spent over
$9 million in the last two years out of our general fund on both modernization
as well as facility upgrades and facility augmentation. Another issue is that
this community does not want multi-track year-round schools. That is another
threshold that the state establishes before you quality for state school funding.
Councilmember Moot asked Dr. Billings if he thought it was realistic that in a
six month time frame, a task force between the Elementary School District,
Sweetwater Union High School District, and the Council and/or Planning Commission
could get together and analyze this threshold and come up with a strategic plan
to try to address it.
Dr. Billings replied that there are billions of dollars of unfunded school
facility use in the State of California. In a priority list, we don't even
qualify for state funds. So if we didn't have local mitigation efforts, we would
not even see the facilities we have today. We could put together a task force,
but he did not feel there would be any new or any revealing information that
would come out of that because really the issues at hand are that we have a
tremendous local obligation to put these facilities in place. Class size
reduction is a program that exacerbated that situation and none of that is going
to go away without some hugh influx of dollars which he did not feel tax payers
are going to step up to. In the last two years, we have been faced with some
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changes in educational programs that has had tremendous facility implications.
One hundred and fifty classrooms is the equivalent of six schools; we had two
months notice. It was a voluntary program, but how do you not move forward with
that kind of educational opportunity.
Mr. Hubbard stated we have the need for addressing the meeting of increased
enrollment of students, and there are no monies anticipated from the state so it
has to come locally. GMOC is simply saying there appears to be some problems
down the road, and we are recommending that there be a joint task force or
various representatives from the School Districts and City meet together to
address these issues. The schools have constraints and are very limited in what
they can or cannot do, but they still have to meet the needs of the kids.
Bob Leiter felt at the last joint meeting with the Elementary School District
Board, Council got a good overview of their strategic planning process and a lot
of background information. What GMOC is Suggesting is that we move forward in
the same dialogue to deal with some of these growth related issues. Perhaps as
a starting point for that, city staff could go back with school district staff
and bring forward a report addressing some of the issues that were brought up
tonight in more detail and specifically addressing whether the current standards
are leading toward these kinds of problems; that could be the basis for a future
joint meeting between the two boards.
Mr. Hubbard stated that a good example of success is the Interagency Water Task
Force that started meeting some ten years ago. Similar turf issues existed
between the Water Authorities and the City. That has proven to be a very
successful Task Force that continues to meet and has benefitted the entire
community in terms of improving a guaranteed water supply and has cut costs as
well as improved service.
PARKS AND RECREATION Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
· City Council direct staff to comprehensively evaluate projected growth and
park land phasing conditions in eastern Chula Vista to ensure that a threshold
deficit does not occur. The results of this evaluation should be included with
next year's threshold report.
· City Council direct staff to return the revised Parks and Recreation
Threshold Standard for Council adoption with the Parks Master Plan in summer
1998.
· City Council adopt the Park Master Plan and focus on implementation
strategies to achieve threshold ratios in western Chula Vista.
· City proceed expeditiously to prepare the Greenbelt Master Plan; Council
adopt the Greenbelt Master Plan subsequent to pending adoption of the Parks
Master Plan and Multiple Species Conservation Plan.
Questions and Comments: None.
LIBRARIES Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
City Council allocate adequate fiscal resources in the 1998-99 budget to
bring the materials collection ratio up from 2.6 items per person to 3.0 items
per person.
· Library staff continue to ensure that potential floor area and staff-
related threshold issues stemming from the integration of computes are evaluated
and reported upon as part of the Library Master Plan Update.
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· City Council continue to support the Library Department's efforts to
complete the Master Plan Update by August 1998 and promptly adopt that plan.
Questions and Comments: There were none.
SEWER Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
· City Council support staff and consultant efforts to expeditiously develop
a strategic plan which ensures future sewage treatment capacity sufficient to
meet the long-range build-out needs of the General Plan.
Questions and Con~ments: There were none.
DRAINAGE Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
Engineering Division continue to supply the GMOC with a list of unfunded
drainage improvements needed in western Chula Vista and an annual progress
summary.
· Engineering Division continue to keep the GMOC informed as to Proposition
218's impacts on construction of the unfunded drainage improvements needed in
western Chula Vista.
Questions and Co~nents: There were none.
FISCAL Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
· City conduct regular reviews of the DIFs at least every two years to
identify the need for updates. A standard procedure should be adopted to
evaluate the accuracy of projection, facility costs, and other assumptions,
including a requirement for the inclusion of standard 5-year growth projections
in each of the DIF updates.
Questions and Comments: There were none.
AIR QUALITY Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
· City Council expeditiously adopt the proposed CO2 Reduction Plan and
continue to pro-actively pursue air pollution reduction programs.
· City Council direct staff to prioritize implementation of the CO2 Reduction
Plan's measures, such as:
- Enhanced pedestrian connections to mass transit
- Site design with pedestrian, bicycle, and mass transit orientation
- Increased land use mix
- Increased employment and housing density near mass transit
· City Council closely monitor use of the Telecenter and establish measurable
performance goals related to its continued funding.
· City Council continue to allocate staff resources for participation in the
Regional Growth Management Program.
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Questions and Comments:
Councilmember Moot asked if GMOC was trying to move towards adopting a more
specific threshold that may incorporate into a CO2 reduction plan.
Mr. Leiter replied that staff has been working with the Environmental Coordinator
and looking at ways we could integrate some of these concepts into our existing
development regulations. So instead of a different threshold standard, some of
these ideas can be built into our design guidelines and zoning regulations.
Councilmember Moot stated that if GMOC was moving towards trying to quantify the
thresholds by incorporating it into a CO2 reduction plan or some other method,
he would be very supportive of that because he felt that if we try to quantify
it in an area in a specific way that made some sense, it would be very helpful.
Commissioner Ray stated that two years ago, part of the discussion revolved
around solid waste and to quantify that as well as air quality. He was curious
if there had been further discussion about a threshold for solid waste.
Ed Batcheider, Senior Planner, replied that waste disposal is being handled at
the regional level. Therefore, GMOC felt it wasn't necessary to develop an
additional layer of regulations at the local level.
WATER Thresholds have been met.
GMOC recommendations:
City Council continue to support the Interagency Water Task Force and the
efforts of the Task Force to expand the reclaimed water market at the local
level.
· Coordination at the staff level to allow for orderly and planned
development of the necessary transmission facilities needed to service major
proposed development projects with reclaimed water.
· City Council support the concept of sharing resources by the City,
Sweetwater Authority, and Otay Water District with the purpose of improved
customer service and government effectiveness.
Questions and Comments: There were none.
Planninq Commission Action:
MSC (Thomas/Ray) to accept GMOC'S recommendations. Motion could not be approved
because there was no longer a quorum present since Commissioner O'Neill left.
Chair Davis said a vote will be taken at their next meeting.
Citv Council Action:
M Moot) Councilmember Moot stated he would like to modify the motion with
respect to the school threshold that an intergovernmental agency task force
between the Sweetwater Union High School District, City Council, and the Chula
Vista Elementary School District be created with a goal towards looking at this
threshold and making better common uses of City and School facilities and they
meet before the GMOC meets again in six months.
S (Horton)
VOTE ON MOTION: AYES: Moot and Horton. NOES: Rindone and Salas. Motion fails.
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Councilmember Rindone felt that this issue could appropriately be addressed as
an agendized item at a future joint meeting to discuss the concerns, options, and
approaches.
Councilmember Salas expressed that there is a lot of value in putting together
a group, but she did not feel comfortable in taking the lead on a school issue.
She felt that before we make that kind of decision, there has to be more
discussion.
Mayor Hotton stated why don't we go forward and make the motion to direct the
city manager to schedule a meeting. Maybe we don't have to have a full Council
and full Board present at the meeting; that is what is difficult in scheduling
compatible times.
Councilmember Moot stated that one of the reasons he brought this idea up is
because he remembered vividly an inability to get a meeting with all present.
If you have a designated representative from the Council and each School Board
and maybe some members at large, you may be able to set that kind of meeting up,
meet regularly, and have an on-going dialogue on these issues.
M (Horton) to accept the GMOC Annual Report and direct the City Manager to try
to schedule a meeting within the next two months, first with the Elementary
School District.
S (Rindone) the motion to include input provided during the discussion of the
Report, because there were some recommendations about some things to look at for
next year.
VOTE ON MOTION: Motion approved 3-1-1 (Moot voting no and Padilla absent).
MSC (Morton/Rindone) to direct staff to undertake actions necessary to implement
the recommendations as presented in the "1997 GMOC Recommendations/Implementing
Actions Summary." Motion approved 4-0-1 (Padilla absent).
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
The meeting adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
~ Authelet, CMC/AAE
City Clerk