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COUNCIL AGENDA STATEMENT
Item 17
Meeting Date 1/7/92
ITEM TITlE: Report on additional safety measures at the intersection of
Melrose Avenue and Talus Street
SUBMITTED BY: Director of Public Work~
REVIEWED BY: City Manager..JE:¡ ~~I (4/5ths Vote: Yes___No-X-)
Council Referral #2311
Staff received a request from Ms. Tina Browning requesting additional stop
signs at the intersection of Mel rose Avenue and Tal us Street to slow down
speeding vehicles on Melrose Avenue.
RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council accept staff's report and deny the
request for additional stop signs.
BOARDS/COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATION: At the Safety Commission meeting of
March 14, 1991, the Safety Commission voted 7-0 to concur with staff and
approve additional speed 1 imit signs and pavement markings to be added on
Melrose Avenue between E. Orange Avenue and Otay Valley Road.
At the City Council meeting of April 9, 1991, the City Council voted 3-0-1 to
approve addit i ona 1 speed 1 imit signs and pavement markings on Melrose Avenue
between E. Orange Avenue and Otay Valley Road and den i ed the request for
additional stop signs, until a reevaluation can be done on the above
recommendation.
DISCUSSION:
Staff received a request from Ms. Tina Browning of the 1600 block of Melrose
Avenue requesting an all-way stop or a stop sign at the intersection of Talus
Street for vehicles traveling southbound on Melrose Avenue. Ms. Browning
along with other residents in the area are concerned with southbound vehicles
exceeding the speed 1 imit on Melrose Avenue and mi sjudgi ng the horizontal
curve south of Talus Street.
Melrose Avenue is a north/south Class II collector with a curb to curb width
of 40 feet and a posted speed limit of 30 miles per hour. Talus Street is a
east/west residential street with a curb to curb width of 36 feet and a prima
facie speed 1 imit of 25 miles per hour. The average daily traffi c (ADT) is
2800 vehicles on Melrose Avenue and 300 vehicles on Talus Street.
A review of the accident history at this intersection for the 23-month period
beginning January 1, 1990 and ending November 30, 1991 shows that there were
no reported accidents. Accidents which have occurred in the area are usually
south of the subject intersect i on. On October 3, 1991, at 3:16 a.m., there
was a reported accident at 1646 Mel rose Avenue. This accident involved a
southbound vehicle hitting a vehicle which was parked in front of the
residence. The driver of the southbound vehicle fled the scene. It should be
noted that this accident occurred approximately 1,000 ft. south of the
intersection with Talus Street. An all-way stop at the intersection of
Melrose Avenue and Talus Street would not have prevented this accident.
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On April 29, 1991, staff installed additional 30 mph speed 1 imit signs and
added pavement legends on the southbound and northbound 1 anes of Melrose
Avenue between E. Orange Avenue and Otay Valley Road.
Staff has completed speed counts on four different occasions in the 1600 block
of Melrose utilizing the traffic counting equipment. These speed counts were
conducted duri ng the week over a cont i nuous 48-hour peri od begi nni ng on the
date shown. The following are the results of those speed counts:
Northbound Traffic Southbound Traffic
South of Talus Street North of Talus Street
!!AIT 2-25-91 6-12"91 8-20-91 11-4-91 2-25-91 6-12-91 8-20-91 11-4-91
Posted Speed Limit 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30
Average Speed (MPH) 32.50 35.84 36.13 36,,72 34,,62 34,,62 33.77 39.97
Median Speed (MPH) 32.50 36.16 36.18 37.39 35,,10 35.28 34.30 40,,45
85th Percentile (MPH) 37.77 42.30 42,,84 45.24 39.66 42.80 40.76 45.79
Mode Speed (MPH) 35,,00 35,,00 35,,00 45,,00 35,,00 23,,00 23.00 45.00
10 MPH Pace 27-37 29-39 29-39 35-45 27,,39 29,,39 29-39 35-45
10 MPH Pace X 69.60 70.36 71.34 63.51 79.34 60.91 60,,73 84,,28
An all-way stop eva 1 uat i on study was completed on this intersection. This
intersection was compared to the other intersections that are on the City's
1991 All-Way Stop Evaluation List. Currently this intersection is ran ked
No. 12 out of the 12 intersections on the list. It's total point score was 4,
out of a possible 54 where a minimum of 30 is required to justify the
installation of an all-way stop.
Staff is not recommending the installation of an all-way stop at the present
time because traffic engineering studies indicate that the intersection of
Melrose Avenue and Talus Street does not warrant an all-way stop. In
addition, an all-way stop would not be effective in reducing vehicular speeds
on Melrose Avenue except within 200 feet of the intersection.
FISCAL IMPACT: All-way stop $228.00 for signs and pavement legends.
WPC 5543E:KY-157
Attachments: All-Way Stop Study
Area Plats (2) NO'" S~A"'N.IJ
City Council Minutes Dated 4/9/91
Safety Commission minutes dated 3/14/91 NOr St!I9AJItIÆIJ
1991 All-Way Stop Evaluation list
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CITY OF CHULA VISTA
ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL WARRANTS
Date: -'BJ \'3\ \Q,,\\
INTERSECTION <"\E'--Rc'!,E. ¡;,.,,¿ -l T"'"L\~~ ~\" Total Points 4-
Major Street/Minor Street (.;t "",,-0 -00)
GENERAL:
A fully justified, properly i nsta 11 ed all-way stop can effectively assign
right of way, reduce vehicle delay, and decrease acc i dents, Generally, an
a ll-way stop is reserved for the use at the intersection of two through
highways, and only as an interim traffic control measure prior to
signalization. Stop signs are not to be used for speed control.
The posting of an intersection for all-way stop control should be based on
factual data. Warrants to be considered include:
I. Accident records
2. Unusual conditions
3. Traffic volumes
4, Traffic volume difference
5. Pedestrian volume
Points are assigned to each of these warrants. The total points possible are
54. The installation of an all-way stop control is justified with a minimum
of 30 points, unless anyone of the CalTrans criteria is met,
ALL-WAY STOP POINT SYSTEM CRITERIA: .
I. ACCIDENT WARRANT:
Two points are assigned for each accident susceptible to correction by an
all-way stop control during one full year prior to the investigation date.
Total number of accidents correctible by all-way stop: 0
Maximum 14 points SCORE: 0 Points
2. UNUSUAL CONDITION WARRANT:
Where unusual conditions exist, such as a school, fire station,
playground, horizontal or vertical curves, etc., points are assigned on
the basis of engineering judgment. Unusual conditions shall be
considered only if within 500 feet of the subject intersection. In
residential neighborhoods where there is a concentration of school age
children activities separated from the residential neighborhood by a
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collector street and coupled with other conditions, the City Traffic
Enaineer may apply traffic engineering judgment and waive the 30-point
minimum point requirement to qualify the intersection for an all-way stop
control.
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The 30-point minimum requirement m!ï be waived and an all-way stop m!ï be
installed only if less restrictive controls have not corrected a
documented problem.
All-way stops m!ï be justified based on projected vol umes and accident
frequency when traffic signals are warranted and will be installed within
a specified period of time. 7.... _ "\'t.Ii.' (<:..t-.\.... "'Ùb"".....'--.:>\
Maximum 10 points SCORE: .;L Points
· 3. PEDESTRIAN VOLUMES
Consideration is given to large numbers of pedestrians crossing the major
street during the four busiest hours of an average day.
Pedestrian Crossina Maior Street. Total durina 4 busiest traffic hours
Volumes: ~ 51-100 101-150 151-200 201-0VER
Points: CD 2 3 4 5
Maximum 5 points SCORE: \ Points
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4. TRAFFIè VOLUMES
Points are dependent upon the magnitude of vehicular volumes entering the
intersection during the four busiest hours of an average day.
Traffic Counts (circle four highest hour volumes): .
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Hour Ending At:
· Dir 0600 0700 (oaoo) 0900 1000 1109 120~ 1300 14001 1500 1609 @ÚaOQ)U900) 2000
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Traffic Volumes Warrant
Points shall be assigned in accordance with the following tables:
Total of Total of
Major Approach Legs Minor Approach Legs
4-hour Volume Points 4-hour Volume Points
~'1d. I 0 - 1000 0 1 \\~ 10 - 400 0 I
1001 - 1300 1 401 - 600 1
1301 - 1600 2 601 - 800 2
1601 - 1900 3 801 - 1000 3
1901 - 2200 4 1001 - 1200 4
2201 - 2600 5 1201 - 1400 5
2601 - 2900 4 1401 - 1600 6
2901 - 3200 3 1601 - 1800 7
3201 - 3500 2 1801 - 2000 8
3501 - 3800 1 2001 - 2200 9
3801 - over 0 2201 - over 10
SCORE: -º- Points SCORE: ~ Points .
Maximum 5 Minimum 10
5. TRAFFIC VOLUME DIFFERENCE
All-way stops operate best when the major and minor street approach
traffic volumes are nearly equal. Points sha 11 be assigned in
accordance with the following table:
~oo 24-Hour Minor St. ADD roach Volumes \\'1.0
\~~\-\- \1..~>' 24-Hour Maior St. ADDroach Volumes X 100% . Points
95 - 100 10
85 - 94 9 .
75 - 84 , 8
65 - 74 7
55 - 64 6
45 - 54 5
35 - 44 4
25 - 34 3
15 - 24 ,. "'ø 2
5 - 14 ~\
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SCORE: \ Points
Maximum 10 Points
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CALTRANS CRITERIA CChaDter 4 C~lTrans Traffiç Manual)
Any of the following conditions may warrant a multi-way STOP sign installation:
l. Where traffic signals are warranted and urgently needed, the multiway stop
may be an interim measure that can be installed quickly to control traffic
while arrangements are being made for the signal installation.
2. An accident problem, as indicated by five or more reported accidents
· within a 12 month period of a type susceptible to correction by a multiway
stop installation. Such accidents include right- and left-turn collisions
as well as right-angle collisions.
3. Minimum traffic volumes
(a) The total vehicular volume entering the intersection from all
approaches must average at least 500 vehicles per hour for any 5
hours of an average day, and
(b) The combined vehicular and pedestrian volume from the minor street or
highway must average at least 200 units per hour for the same 5
· hours, with an average delay to minor street vehicular traffic of at
least 30 seconds per vehicle during the maximum hour, but
(c) When the 55-percentile approach speed of the major street traffi c
exceeds 40 miles per hour, the minimum vehicular volume warrant is 70
percent of the above requirements,
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ALL-WAY STOP SUMMARY
INTERSECTION: 11 E l.-rz.DS € AvèNI/r=- /TA-¿V 5 ..s T/2BE..í (.;2.1170 -OO)
DATE INVESTIGATION WAS COMPLETED: &' It :i71
TOTAL SCORE: Lf points out of a possible 54. The minimum
required to justify an all-way stop control is 30 points.
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Intersection M\:..LRo~t:. Â\Jt. {. Tf\\...u't. ~I\H:\ Date 8-J3-C¡(
(Major) (Minor) Investigator (\1\ ,A.
Qualifies for All-Way Stop based on 30 or more points:
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Qualifies for All-Way Stop based on other criteria: Yes No X
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1. Accident History Points Possible
From 1? / 1'1 / "10 to if / 13 /'1 \
Accidents/year correctable by Stops x 2 points/accident
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crossing the major street during 4 hour count
4. Traffic Volumes (Peak 4 Hours)
Major approaches "2,,~d.. tJ 5
Minor approaches \\-=\ 0 10
5. Traffic Volume Difference IIi- I 10
TOTAL L.¡ 54
Mini.um Points Required 30
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AC110N ITEMS
16" ORDINANCE 2451 ADDING aiAPTER 2.31 AND AMENDING aiAPTER 9.50 OF THE CiULA
VISTA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO MOBll.EHOME PARKS RENT REVIEW COMMISSION (firstreadintr1
- At the present time, the City has a rent arbitration ordinance which provides a mechanism for park
residents to appeal a rent increase when the increase exceeds the percentage increase of the Consumer Price
Index for any twelve month period" The recommended Municipal Code changes address issues relating to
the efficacy of the ordinance. Staff recommends that Council place ordinance on first reading. (Director
of Community Development)
MSC (Nader Moore) to continue Ordinance 2451 to the meeting of April 16, 1991. Approved 3-0-1 with
Cotm",',"..n Malcolm absent.
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17. RESOLUTION 16096 APPROVING THE GREG ROGERS PARK MASTER PLAN AND ADOPTING
THE NEGATIVE DECJ.ARATION FOR 18-90-51 - Since July, 1989, the department has been working with the
architectural firm of GillespielDelorenzo to design a Master Plan for Greg Rogers Park. Staff recommends
approval of the resolution. (Director of Parks and Recreation) Continued from the 3/19/91 meeting.
Jess Valenzuela, Director of Parks and Recreation, gave a brief history of the master plan process.
Louis Gunnlaugsson, 1220 Oleander Avenue, Chula Vista, California, informed Council that he appreciated
( their efforts in returning this to staff for review. The citizens involved felt they had made a difference
regarding the park.
RESOLUTION 16096 OFFERED BY COUNCILMAN NADER. reading of the text was waived, passed and
approved 3-0-1 with Councilinan Malcolm absenL
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18. REPORT ADDmONAL SAFE1Y MEASURES AT THE INTERSECTION OF MELROSE
AVENUE AND TALUS STREET " An area resident requested stop signs at Melrose Avenue and Talus Street
to slow down vehicles" An all"way stop was not warranted at the subject location. Staff recommends
additional speed limit signs and 30 mph pavement legends and that the request for additional stop signs be
denied. (Director of Public Works)
Tina Browning, 1634 Melrose Avenue, Chula Vista, California, stated that traffic signals would be put on I"
805 and Main Street and she hoped this would solve some of their problems. If it did not, she would be
back before Council in the future.
Neil Dunn, 1629 Melrose Avenue, Chula Vista, California, did not feel the signals on 1-805 and Main Street
would stop the speeding problems on Melrose. He felt the grade of the street and 'deadmans curve' should
be considered in their request of additional speed limit signs and 30 mph pavement legends. He then
offered to pay for the stop signs if necessary.
Hal Rosenberg, Traffic Engineer, responded that the grade and curve had been taken into consideration
during the process and it was concluded that it did not relate to the point system.
(' Councilman Nader questioned what the drawback would be of placing a stop sign at the intersection.
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Mr. Rosenberg responded that it would represent an unexpected condition that motorists would be unaware
of, it could provide a false sense of security to children and pedestrians and it represented a disparity
between the number of cars that are on Melrose versus those on the cross street which could create a
tendency to 'cheat" on stopping. The placing of stop signs at locations such as this creates an interruption
which could result in some type of air quality problem with the stop and go traffic.
· Councilman Rindone felt that if the signal at 1,,805 and Main Street did not help to mitigate the problem the
request be reviewed again.
MSP . (MOOI'P/Rindone) to accept the report and stafl's recommendations with a review in six months.
Motion failed 2-1 with Co1mn1m,," Nader voting no.
MS (JQder/Rindone) to approve staff recommendation #2, approving additional speed limit signs and
pavement marlångs on Melrose Avenue between E. Orange Avenue and Otay Valley Road, and defer action
on recommendation #1, denying the request for additional stop signs, until a reevaluation can be done after
the implementation of recommendation #2 (four months). Approved 3-0-1 with Councilman Malcolm
absent.
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19" REPORT LEFr TIJRN PHASING AT INTERSECl10N OF HILLTOP DRIVE AND "L'
STREET - At it's 1/8/91 meeting, Council referred a written communication from Cynthia Ranyak of 2265
Manzana Way, City of San Diego, to staff and the Safety Commission" Mrs. Ranyak is requesting that left"
turn phasing be installed at the intersection of Hilltop Drive and "L' Street" Staff recommends that Council
( deny the request for left turn phasing at the intersection of Hilltop Drive and 'L' Street. (Director of Public
Works)
Mayor Pro Tempore Moore called Cynthia L. Ranyak to speak. Ms" Ranyak was not in attendance.
MS (MoorelRindone) to accept the report and staff recommendations.
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· Councilman Nader stated he was not prepared to accept staffs recommendation.
VOTE ON MOTION: failed 2-1-1 with Councilman Nader voting no and Councilman Malcolm absent. No
fi.uther action taken.
20. BOARD AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS: None
21. ITEMS PULI..ED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR Otems pulled: Sa and 12) The minutes will
reflect the published agenda order.
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22. CI1Y MANAGER'S REPORTCS'I
Scheduling of meetings" City Manager Goss stated staff would like to schedule a workshop on the housing
element on Thursday, August 18th at 4:00 p.m. rather than the regular Redevelopment Agency meeting.
The Director of Community Development had indicated that the items for their meeting could be heard
( following a regular City Council meeting"
Councilman Rindone stated he would not be in town on April 18th or 25th"
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future. We will be strongly recommending this project so that we do not have to have
half the street in asphalt and the other half in concrete. These delays cannot be attributed
to Shell Oil Company, but we hope the finished product will outweigh the few months
delay. Shell is not holding the project up. The work on the south curb line on Bonita
Road should be completed within two to three weeks. At that time, we hope to have
gone to Council to determine if we are to do the entire street width. . Construction can
begin shortly thereafter. We are looking at construction to begin perhaps in late April
or no later than early May.
Commissioner Thomas express concern about the footage north of the 179 foot
reconstruction (along Bonita Road).
Mr. Rivera explained that Commissioner Thomas is mentioning that the limits of this
project are the extension of the south curbline of Bonita Road, basically where the
crosswalk would be located and working south to the extension of the south property line
of the Shell Gas Station--that is a distance of approximately 179 feet. The water is now
tracking onto Bonita Road and its covering the number 2 eastbound lane and the
number 3 lane. We will be addressing this issue after the reconstruction project is
complete.
Commissioner Thomas noted that in the initial meeting with Shell representatives there
was no problem at that time in this area, and that is why the project starts at the
crosswalk; but the water problem on Bonita Road has been exacerbated in the last three
months.
Mr. Rivera, in response to Chair Braden's comment that this may be the time to request .
Shell to get the dryer, stated that this may be a recommendation that the Safety
Commission may wish to incorporate into the minutes.
Chair Braden stated that it is strongly recommended that Shell look at the water problem
now occurring on Bonita Road.
Mr. Rivera said that staff will bring a status report to next's months Safety Commission
meeting.
STAFF ACTION ITEM
Place Shell Oil Company project on the April agenda.
6. Report on Traffic Concerns for Melrose A venue in the Vicinity of Talus Street
STAFF REPORT
Mr. Rivera gave staffs report. We have looked at this street and have conducted speed
ì surveys. The posted speed limit on this street is 30 mph. Staff is recommending that
the speed limit signs be relocated and the addition of pavement markings. We have
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found on a number of these north/south corridor streets that the only thing we have to
infonn the motorists of what the speed limit is, is the signs. There is a long stretch with
no stop signs and motorists are traveling as fast as they can from Orange Avenue to Otay
Valley Road. They tend to forget they are on a residential street. We want to reinforce
the idea that the speed limit is enforced by radar. We do have signs attesting to that.
We do have 30 mph speed limit signs. We can relocate those signs to a more visible
location. We could not justify the installation of an all-way stop. The intersections are
spaced at quite a distance apart. To reduce speeds, especially in the area of the
intersection of Talus Street, and the curve, just north of Turquoise Street, police
enforcement, as they are continuing to do, will reduce speeds.
Chair Braden commended the Police Department. They have been out working and
writing a lot of tickets. In fact, they have written 76 percent more tickets this month
than they did last month. It is the local people that are really guilty of most of the
speeding.
In response to a question regarding reducing the speed limit from 30 mph to 25 mph,
Mr. Rivera stated that speed limits are established using the California Vehicle Code and
State laws. In that there are specific laws on speed traps, if the speed limit were to be
posted at 25 mph, and the police were citing, our radar speed surveys and the roadway
design would not justify a speeding ticket being valid. A judge would see that ticket and
say the speed limit is arbitrarily set too low, that this is a speed trap, the ticket is no
good and through it out of court. We have set the speed limit to be as close to the 85
percentile speed. The 85 percentile speed is 37 mph, so legally we could post the speed
at 35 mph. When there is a high discrepancy between what 85 percent of the motorists .
are traveling at or below, then that ten,ds to lose credibility with the speed limit.
Mr. Rosenberg noted that studies have shown that reducing the speed limit does not have
any effect at all on the speed that motorists will select. The law is written in a manner
that assumes a motorist will drive at a prudent and safe speed based on the surrounding
conditions. That is why it is called the prima facia speed limit, because on the face of
it, a motorist could actually be driving at the maximum speed limit of 55 mph under
certain conditions and claim that they are doing so safety and show the court, in fact, that
is acceptable. The courts have ruled that is the basis of the speed law.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
John Williams, 1608 Melrose Avenue, CV 91911
In talking to a police officer I found out that 40 mph in a 30 mph zone is not
unreasonable under certain conditions. I monitored traffic while the radar was in front
of my house. In 30 minutes I had cars going from 45 mph to 53 mph past the sign
saying the speed limit was 30 mph. What I am concerned with on Melrose Avenue is
that more and more people are finding out that you cannot get off the freeway at Main
Street. You have a hard time in the morning getting on the freeway, you cannot get off
the freeway very well, so they use the traffic signal at Melrose A venue and Main Street
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to go north. In our area it is transient motorists going to work who are using Orange
Avenue to Melrose Avenue, from Orange to Main Street in order to bypass the freeway.
Fonner Mayor Cox stated that we never want to create a situation where people will use
our side streets to avoid the freeway. We have. Its right there. They have two choices-
-they exit at Orange and go to Melrose Avenue or to Hilltop. If 40 mph is reasonable
in a 30 mph speed limit area, what is reasonable in a 25 mph speed limit area. In other
words, do they have to go above 35 mph to get a ticket. An officer told me that when
they go to court, the first thing a judge asks is, what were the conditions. If the
conditions weren't right, then the judge won't allow the ticket.
Leonard Krall, 1627 Melrose Avenue, CV 91911
I don't know what we are waiting to happen here, right now I count the dead animals on
Melrose Avenue that I see laying in the street and I am wondering if next, it is going to .
be my granddaughter. I notice that your report listing the accidents on Melrose Avenue
is not quite accurate. (At this point he presented photographs to the Commission.) He
stated that these were reported accidents, but not within the timeframe of those listed on
staffs report. People have moved from Melrose Avenue because of the traffic. Melrose
Avenue is a feeder road to I-80S. I agree with the Sergeant that most speeding is
probably by local residents. Something has got to be done to slow traffic down before
we have a fatality. I hope you consider this before you make a decision.
Commissioner Matacia asked if he thought the speed limit should be reduced to 25 mph.
Mr. Krall acknowledged that that would be better than nothing, but that he thought the
stop sign is needed to slow the traffic flow down. .
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Mr. Rosenberg pointed out that he agrees with the last two speakers that Melrose Avenue
is being used as a bypass because of the freeway problem. The problem is really at the
southbound off-ramp and well as the northbound on-ramp, where we do not have a traffic
signal. The problem is so severe that, I'm sure, a lot of motorists are bypassing the
interchange by turning off into a southbound direction, probably using Melrose Avenue
so that they can access Main Street by virtue of a traffic signal. We do have in our
Capital Improvement Program budgeted for FY91-92 signalization of the two ramps. We
think that will help tremendously and divert a lot of this non-local traffic which I believe
tends to speed because they are non-local and they are really trying to pass through the
neighborhood as opposed to starting from that area or traveling into the neighborhood.
I think the problem will probably abate with the signalization.
Deborah Frios, 1631 Melrose Avenue, CV 91911
She presented photographs to the Commission showing an accident that happened at her
house on Christmas morning--where her husband's car was pushed through the front door
of their home by another car. In December 1990 two more accidents happened right in
, front of our house. People corne flying down that hill and they lose control, skidding
, down the hill.
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James Russell, 1628 Melrose Avenue, CV 91911
I think a stop sign would do a lot of good. I also go along with the fact of reducing the
speed limit. As you say, Melrose A venue is used as a bypass. I agree with your putting
signalization at the freeway entrance/exit on Main Street. I believe there is no other way
to stop people from building speed coming down a hill other than putting a stop sign on
Talus Street. It is extremely difficult to back out of my driveway. I am teaching my 16
year old son to drive the proper way, so I have him park his car out on the street, facing
down hill. I don't want him to try and back out of my driveway. I agree with dropping
the speed limit to 25 mph, more enforcement of the speed limit for the next couple of
months, and really strongly stand behind the stop sign at Talus Street.
Tina Browning, 1634 Melrose Avenue, CV 91911
I would first like to point out that the petition that we handed in last month that only had
a few signatures, that was only an hour's worth of effort at the last minute. To review
the accident history from January 1, 1990 through December 31, 1990 is inaccurate. I
know that we had two accidents in one week, of which one was reported. If you put a
25 mph sign in, they do not obey the 30 mph sign, what makes you think they will obey
the 25 mph sign. The stop sign is the only thing and I will not quit, I will bug you until
the day I die if! don't get the sign.
MOTION
That the Safety Commission accept staffs recommendation: 1) that the request for
additional stop signs be denied; 2) additional speed limit signs and pavement markings
· be added on Melrose Avenue.
MSC [Militscher/Chidester] 6-1 (Thomas)
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Mr. Rosenberg informed those concerned with this item that staff is obligated to take the
item to the City Council at which time another hearing will be conducted and present to
the City Council the Safety Commission's decision. You can appear and present your
case to the Council and they certainly could overrule the Safety Commission and staff.
All of you will be advised when this item will be going before the City Council.
Mr. Rivera explained to those concerned with this item that the Safety Commission has
· approved that we deny the request for the all-way stop at Talus Street and Melrose
Avenue. They have approved that staff add additional speed limit signs and pavement
markings on Melrose Avenue. This is just a recommendation. This recommendation,
with tonight's Minutes, and our report will be sent forward to the City Council. The
City Council is the one with the authority to adopt a recommendation and that work be
done. At that time you will all be notified of the City Council meeting.
Chair Braden called a recess at 8: 18 pm.
Safety Commission reconvened at 8:28 pm.
f Item 11 was taken out of order to accommodate the public.
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