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CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Thursday, October 30, 1986 Council Conference Room
4:00 p.m. City Hall
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Cox, Councilmembers McCandliss
(arrived late), Malcolm (arrived late),
Campbell, Moore
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Goss, City Attorney Hatton
Mayor Cox stated he would take Item 4 first on the agenda.
4. RESOLUTION 12799 AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION TO CALIFORNIA
COASTAL COMMISSION OF AN ADDENDUM TO THE
LOCAL COASTAL PLAN (LCP) - SPECIFIC PLAN
AMENDMENT SUBMITTED TO SAID COMMISSION IN
SEPTEMBER 1986 (Community Development
Director)
Community Development Director Desrochers stated this was a
clean-up measure regarding the material submitted to the Coastal
Commission of the City's Local Coastal Plan (LCP).
The City's Local Coastal Program/Specific Plan amendment for the
Mid-bayfront was submitted to the California Coastal Commission
immediately after City Council approval September 18, 1986. The
amendment is to be heard by the Commission on November 13, 1986.
The Commission's San Diego DIstrict Office staff has completed
their review of the submittal and has provided the City with their
comments.
The Council is requested to approve an addendum to the submitted
document in order to clarify certain items. The addendum seeks to
clarify the following issues brought up in the review by the
DiStriCt Office staff by:
a. Assuring adherence to the original intent of protecting
views to the marshes and bay.
b. Park and open space calculations will show an additional
acre.
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c. Provisions for consideration of additional visitor
serving uses prior to the construction of any housing.
The landowner and the Planning Department have reviewed the
proposed modifications and are in agreement with the content of
the changes.
RESOLUTION OFFERED BY COUNCILI4AN CAMPBELL, the reading of the text
was waived by unanimous consent, passed a~d approved unanimously.
1. OTAY MESA TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATE (Director of Planning)
(Councilman Malcolm arrived at this time - 4:07 p.m.)
Director of Planning Krempl stated considerable time has been
spent with the City and County staffs of San Diego in the
involvement of a coordinated transportation study of land use,
specifically in the area of transportatiol~ as it affects the Otay
Mesa area. There are 3,500 industrial acres in the City of San
Diego and annexation of that territory is pending regarding the
development.
(Councilwoman McCandliss arrived at this time 4:10 p.m.)
One of the key elements is transportation: what impact it will
have on the City and County of San Diego as well as the City of
Chula Vista and to address the issue of future transportation of
the eastern portion of Chula Vista.
There has been a 3-tiered process between the property owners, the
County and the City staff which meet on a monthly basis
(Councilman Malcolm and Councilman Moore are represe~-ted on it).
The next meeting will be held in early December. It is extremely
beneficial therefore, that the City's position on this item be
heard as to its policy. Mr. Krempl then introduced Mr. Mike Hicks
of SANDAG who conducted the study.
Mr. Hicks explained that the study basically started in fiscal
year 1986 when SANDAG looked at the 125 corridor. However, with
all the developments in the South Bay they looked at all of the
major arterials south of 54, East of 805 and to the border.
SANDAG did an earlier model, a twenty year model but it did not
assume much land use for that Eastern territory which is now known
as EastLake. Mr. Hicks then noted all of the information going in
to the study. They tried to analyze where the trouble spots were
going to be which were causing the high volume on the freeways and
concluded that the whole area is contributing to the problem.
They then tried to maximize the network as much as possible
reflecting that they could have freeways up to ten lanes and
arterials up to six lanes however; there would still be a problem
with overcapacity of the streets. They reviewed the information
from United Enterprises and looked at the peak hour traffics -
what it might be like relative to an eight lane freeway.
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Mr. Hicks declared that there is a very large employment area in
the southern part of the City being created up from five to six
thousand acres, therefore; commuter trips to that area would be
great. SANDAG concluded there is an imbalance of land use. To
reduce the number of trips coming of the Otay Mesa Industrial
Area, they had do deal with this imbalance between the residential
and commercial and industrial; however their conclusion is there
will still be an overcapacity on the freeways and major
interchanges, this is a number of years down the road. The
management group suggested trying to come up with more residential
zoning in that area as an option.
In answer to the Mayor's question, Mr. Hicks stated that the
unknown United Enterprises figures did not provide SANDAG with
specific land use just the number of trips that would be coming
out of their area so SANDAG has no idea of any specific land
uses. The build-out time frame for the study is thirty to forty
years in the future.
Council discussion followed with Mr. Hicks answering questions as
to the square miles in the United Enterprises area; the huge
amount of land that will be built out someday; interior street
problems; problems with major arterials caused by development in
and around that area; the phasing of development with
transportation facilities being the key; San Diego having a puDlic
financing facilities plan; County's development plans for the
South area (the prison) which will generate a lot of employment;
the impact on the City of Chula Vista; San Diego City and County
should have a program similar to that of the City of Chula Vista
since they will be impacted also.
Mr. John Fowler, from the City of San Diego stated that the study
indicates that they are just trying to get some balance of land
use and are presenting this to the Council today in order to give
them some insight as to the problem.
Councilwoman McCandliss noted the large amount of industrial
development in the southern area which will have a definite impact
on the City; this is critical because Chula Vista is almost
powerless to restrict any land use of that area;
and questioned what will be done with the
study once it is completed noting that Chula Vista seems to be the
victim of this process.
Mr. Hicks explained that it is hoped to achieve a balance of land
use in the study which they cannot do with transportation adding
that it is difficult to tell what the political process will be.
Councilwoman McCandliss cautioned that the problems will not be
solved with the United Enterprises-SANDAG must look at the acreage
which is designated for industrial. Mayor Cox discussed the
future land uses for the Otay Mesa area such as the International
Raceway, the commercial aircraft from Lindberg to Brown Field and
the prison construction.
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Mr. Hicks noted that SANDAG is considering the International
Raceway as an interim use after which it may be turned into
industrial use.
MSUC (McCandliss/Malcolm) that a letter from the Council go to
each of the Council offices expressing its concern that:
1. Some planning studies seem to be falling behind for approval;
2. The high percentage of the area that is Deing approved in
advance of comprehensive planning of the whole area and that
from a Chula Vista standpoint, the Council is concerned with
the negative impact the cumulative project will have on the
City - the Council should get that in as quickly as possible
and then follow it up with any necessary meetings to either
call a halt to the processing of plans until they are
completed or to slow it down and make them aware that there is
a great deal happening in this area in advance of what is
considered top-notch planning analysis.
Councilman Malcolm stated that the motion should include the
County of San Diego.
Councilman Moore asked that it also include the City of National
City.
Councilwoman McCandliss agreed to include these in her motion.
Councilman Malcolm agreed to the second and the motion carried
unanimously.
2. JOINT MEETING WITH THE SAFETY COMMISSION
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Bob Torbett; Ernest Arnold, Ollie
Bradden, Suzanne Harris, Eugene
Militscher, Vern Decker
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
Mayor Cox welcomed the Commissioners to the meeting remarking it
was long overdue. The Council and the Safety Commission have, in
the past, come to different conclusions periodically. This
meeting was set up to review policies and discuss any concerns.
Chairman Torbett discussed the charges of the Commission stating
the Commission does not have to look at the "human ingredient" as
the Council has to; they base their conclusions on what the City
Engineer feeds them; they go out and personally survey safety
problem areas throughout the City; they should also look at things
they have done in the past and eliminate some of those, such as
various stop signs throughout the City.
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Commissioner Arnold referred to the report just handed to the
Commissioners from the Traffic Engineer and the Director of Public
Works indicating he has not had the opportunity to "digest" the
staff report and the Commission could not comment on it.
Councilman Malcolm expressed his concern that perhaps the
Commission should know how some of the decisions are made by the
City Council. He would like to see the area of the stop signs
given completely over to the Safety Commission rather than the
Council having to consider them.
Mayor Cox indicated Council is getting more and more involved with
traffic and speeding problems going on in the City. He added the
warrant system may not De the complete answer, noting the traffic
signal being proposed for the Bonita Road/Allen School Road which
does not meet the warrant system.
Councilman Moore stated the Council's appreciation for the efforts
of the Safety Commission and the work being done by them. One of
his concerns is how to improve safety in the City, specifically
the speeding problems now existing.
Councilwoman McCandliss remarked that Council always followed a
warrant system but lately, there have been requests for more and
more stop signs. These hdve been approved as a test to reduce
speed problems in certain areas of the City.
Councilman Campbell said he had not seen too many stop signs being
erected in the City in the past 6 months, however; wh~t they are
seeing in the City now is what is happening on the freeway and
that is speeding. There may be a necessity of having a Traffic
Commission which can deal best with the problems of speeding.
Councilman Malcolm commented that part of the problem of speeding
is the City Council. Today in the City, there is a lack of
enforcement because of the lack of police patrol. The Council
should be the ones to make sure there are enough people out there
enforcing the laws.
Council and Safety Commission discussion followed regarding the
human factor being brought in; most of the people in the City are
frustrated because of the speeding; every element needs to be
looked at because of the changes occurring every day in
transportation; the City and County of San Diego also need to gear
up to face this problem; Chula Vista doesn't have enough officers
out in the field to enforce the speeding problems; there should be
an awareness program to educate the citizens of Chula Vista as to
the reduction of speed; there should be an anti-speed campaign
with bumper stickers and so forth and get more of the community
involved; the one thing that keeps people from speeding is the
fear of getting a ticket; the Director of Public Safety noted the
number of officers presently in the field and the motorcycle unit
which is now being re-instituted.
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Councilman Campbell discussed the enforcement program in Las
Vegas. The first offense for speeding is a fine of ~150 and
everyone is aware of this, therefore; there can be gains or
achievements made in the field if there is enough publicity given
to the enforcement.
Commissioner Arnold commented on the installation of speed bumps
in various cities; stop lights now being put in rear windows of
cars which results in a 50% reduction in rear-end collisions; he
would like to see more consideration given to speed bumps, try it
in several places in the City; does not agree with the education
program, however; he feels that if the police are "nailing" people
on a regular basis for speeding, word will get around and
reductions of speed will occur. Once a pattern is established,
there can be random enforcement after that.
The Council referred to the report regarding a driver education
program noting copies were given to the Commissioners.
Deputy City Manager Morris reported that subsequent to the City
Council request for a driver education program, a staff
subcommittee, comprised of representatives from the City Manager's
Office, Police, Public Works/Engineering, Management Services and
a member of the Safety Commission met to discuss possible options
which could be implemented to reduce the rate of traffic speed in
Chula Vista.
Based upon the discussion at these meetings and with special input
from the Traffic Engineer and Police Department, a four-point
program was developed to address driver education and increased
traffic enforcement with the intention of reducing the rate of
vehicular speed in the City. This program will provide: (1)
greater emphasis on educating the public regarding traffic safety,
(2) increased traffic enforcement, (3) additional education at
both the high school and junior high school levels and (4) greater
support from the South Bay ~unicipal Court.
This is a long-term program that will require an expenditure of
staff time and resources in the form of presentations to school
districts, parent groups and residents as well as additional staff
time and dollars related to selective traffic enforcement.
Overall, staff Delieves that if this effort is made, speed will be
reduced and accidents and fatalities will be avoided.
MSUC (McCandliss/CampDell) to approve the proposed education
enforcement program as described in the report and authorize the
Mayor to sign a letter to the Presiding Judge of the South Bay
Municipal Court Outlining the City's program and requesting
support from local judges.
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MSUC (Moore/Malcolm) for the City Council to direct staff to
prepare the report regarding a strong public relations program
that includes but is not limited to a letter from the City Council
to Chula Vista residents regarding the use of bumper stickers and
a method of distribution and associated costs.
~4ayor Cox noted that this will be an informational item which
should be brought back to the City Council before distribution to
the residents.
Mayor Cox then thanked the members of the Safety Commission for
attending this joint meeting today.
5. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
a. Frank Pusseteri, 1103 Nolan Avenue, Chula Vista, submitted a
petition requesting that a three-way stop sign be posted at
the intersection of Nolan Avenue and East Naples Street and
the intersection of Neptune Street and East Naples thereby
making it safer for the people, in particular, the children.
MSUC (Malcolm/Moore) to refer this petition to the Safety
Commission and staff for a report back.
b. Mr. Tom Davis, 1657 Gotham Street, Chula Vista, stated there
has been a long process in obtaining the stop signs on Gotham
Street. He noted the large vehicles that are parked alongside
the street which prohibit the view of the traffic coming along
this street. He requested that the City Council review this
aspect again.
Traffic Engineer Glass responded that the entire issue of RV's
will be considered by the City Council on November 25.
c. The resident of 1651 Gotham Street acknowledged the stop signs
on Gotham Street and agreed that the safety hazards have been
elevated due to the number of large tractors, trailers and
campers blocking the vision of motorists. The motorists
coming out of their residential areas have a safety hazard
with these large trailers parking here which are being parked.
over the legal 72 hour limit.
Chairman Torbett stated there is a vacancy on the Safety
Commission and asked that the Council fill it as quickly as
possible.
6. CITY ~ANAGER'S REPORT None.
7. MAYOR'S REPORT None.
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8. COUNCIL COMMENTS
a. Councilman Malcolm referred to the request to Council at the
last meeting concerning speed bumps in the alley behind Third
Avenue (Singer Sewing Center). He stated he walked this area
and is convinced speed bumps are definitely needed there.
ADJOURNMENT AT 6:15 p.m. to the meeting of Tuesday, November 4 at
4 p.m.
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