HomeMy WebLinkAboutRCC MIN 1995/01/09MINUTES OF A SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING
Resource Conservation Commission
Chula Vista, California
6:30 p.m. Conference Room #1
Monday, November 7, 1994 Public Services Building
CALL MEETING TO ORDER/ROLL CALL: Meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chair
Burrascano. City Staffperson Barbara Reid called roll. Also present: Commissioners Hall,
Mazquez, and Fisher. A motion had already been made to excuse Commissioner Ghougassian
from tonight's meeting; Guerreiro is unexcused for the fourth straight meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: It was MSUC (Marquez/Hall) to approve the minutes of the
meeting of October 10, 1994; motion carried 4-0. Fisher stated he still wants to review the
Alternatives to the MSCP Plan, even if it can be done at a special meeting.
ORAL COMM[JNICATIONS: None.
NEW BUSINESS: The agenda was taken out of order to accommodate Michael Meacham.
1. Michael Meacham updated the commission on the Residential Refuse/Recycling Public
Education Program as the council was asking for appropriating funds. He reviewed what
was currently being done to enhance the existing program by way of newsletters for
educating the public, presenting awards on recycling, and expanding the program. It
features focus groups, special event recycling, and free pickup of mulch and compost. The
"Chula Vista Recycles" gives cash awards for those who exemplify good recycling efforts.
Marquez opposed the idea of gift certificates due to potential concern of "giving awa}~'
public funds to those who should recycle anyway. Mr. Meacham stated this money comes
from monthly dues of around $1, and that only about .10 goes to public education.
It was MSUC (Hall/Fisher) to recommend support of the program for resource recycling;
motion carried 4-0.
The "Variable Rate Unit Pricing Demonstration" was given by Mr. Meacham, who showed
the 32, 64, and 96-gallon trash cans. This handles the problem of one large trash can rather
than several smaller cans, eliminates the multi-rates, and allows residents to pay by the
amount of trash generated according to the size of cans used and are not billed by trash
weight but by a standard rate. Meacham suggested this system is more cost effective,
people would be more concerned for the volume of trash generated, thus encouraging
recycling.
Barbara Reid reviewed Alternative 5 of the MSCP plans for further environmental analysis.
She provided an overview of the azeas which aze designated for 100% preservation and
90% preservation. The commission did not believe the 5th Alternative adequately showed
what land is being used. Questions they wanted to be addressed included: why Rohr Park
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was incorrectly depicted; how Alternative 5 compares with the other four alternatives
(maps); definitions for core areas and linkages; wanted to see maps showing which areas are
developed and which are vacant; where development is prohibited based on the General
Plan and land use regulations; where is it prohibited based on general plan designations not
connected to physical restrictions that would limit development.
It was also suggested the proposed Alternative 5 work harder to preserve the gnatcatchers
since it's one of the largest habitats in existence. Fisher wanted to know who the biologist
was may~ng the detcrmiaati~ns un the map, and what was meant by biological core azeas,
particulazly ones that were delineated as 70% preserve.
Further questions were raised on watershed restoration, why the greenbelts azound
Sweetwater River to the Otay River showed high development azeas, and why the Bayfront
areas showed a lack of open space and highly valued resources on the map. Reid also
defined the areas on the map that were approved for development. It was still unclear to
the commission what is already slated for open space and what was unbuildable vs.
unprotected. They still felt they wanted to overlay all four plans and comparison maps to
see each of the alternatives.
A motion was made by Fisher not to accept this MSCP Plan's 5th alternative without better
clarification of opposing points; Marquez amended the motion to include not accepting this
alternative in its current form; motion carried 4-0.
It was requested a workshop of the MSCP Plan be held to provide further information and
detail to the commission.
4. Mitigation Land for various drainage improvements: postponed to the next meeting.
5. ieview of Ciean w aier iviSCi? n:ap: postponed to the next u:eeti..g.
6. Review of Negative Declaration IS-95-O5, Otay Lakes Road, Dual Left-Turn Lanes. It
was MSUC (Burrascano/Hall) to accept the negative declaration; motion carried 4-0. A
comment was made to put beepers for the blind at the signal lights. It was questioned why
there were above-street phone poles when there are underground power lines, and why they
lanes couldn't go from 4 to 61anes now to eliminate more construction later.
Review of Negative Declazation IS-95-09, Civic Parking Lot. It was MSUC (FishedHall)
to accept the negative declaration; motion carried 4-0.
8. Planning Commission Agenda of November 9, 1994 review: No action taken by the
commission.
STAFF REPORT: None
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CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS: Chair Burrascano thanked Marquez for bringing the information
on the IIistorical Society. Additionally, two new members are still needed on the commission.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned by Chair Burrascano at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
i;iCYRESS SECRETARIAL SERVICES
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Bazbaza Taylor
MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING
Resource Conservation Commission
Chula Vista, California
7:00 p.m. Conference Rooms #2 and #3
Monday. November 21, 1994 Public Services Building
CALL MEETING TO ORDER/ROLL CALL: The meeting was called to order at 7:04 by
Chair Burrascano.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Burrascano, Commissioners Hall, Fisher, and Marquez
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners Guerreiro, Ghougassian
STAFF PRESENT: Staff present: Environmental Review Coordinator Doug Reid,
Associate Planner Barbara Reid, Planning Director Robert Leiter,
Principal Planner Duane Bazzel
MSUC (Hall/Fisher) (4-0) to excuse Commissioner Ghougassian due to a business commitment.
PRESENTATION OF PROJECTS
I. Recommendation to Council approving an agreement between the City, The
Environmental Trust, Inc., and Bonita Long Canyon Partnership for purchase of
land as wetlands mitigation for two City projects and AT&T's project at 865 Third
Avenue.
Associate Planner Barbara Reid introduced the project, advising the Commission that the
proposal was for the purchase of land to be utilized as off-site wetlands mitigation for three
drainage projects. She described the drainage projects, and the location of the proposed
mitigation property.
Mr. Jim Carter from Environmental Trust described the functions of the Trust, which maintains
and manages mitigation properties in perpetuity, therefore providing for the long-term viability
of the properties. Commissioner Marquez asked how the properties were selected; Mr. Carter
responded that preliminary biological surveys were done to determine appropriate sites for
mitigation. Environmental Review Coordinator Doug Reid pointed out the proposed mitigation
properties on an aerial map, noting the adjacent properties. In response to questions by
Commissioner Fisher regarding present habitat on the proposed mitigation sites, Mr. Carter
explained the current species on site as well as revegetative plans.
Ms. Reid noted that the proposed drainage projects being mitigated have degraded wetlands.
She indicated that while the Telegraph Canyon Creek project consists of temporary
improvements, the AT&T project is of a permanent nature and will include concrete
channelization due to engineering requirements related to water velocity.
Ms. Marquez asked if the one-to-one ratio had already been approved; Mr. Carter responded
that it had. Ms. Marquez asked about success criteria. Mr. Carter indicated that while the final
program was not yet in, the Department of Fish & Game would provide the final criteria. Ms.
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Marquez indicated that she was still unsure as to how the mitigation properties had been chosen;
Mr. Carter reviewed the mitigation properties, indicating that the sites adjacent to Otay Lakes
Road would abut existing open space areas in Rancho del Rey.
Commissioner Fisher stated that he was concerned with the proximity of two of the sites to Otay
Lakes Road, stating that habitats near roads typically have lower densities of species than areas
further away. Mr. Carter responded that these properties would create more of a buffer for the
adjacent open space area, adding that the larger parcel could potentially be developed with three
to four residential units otherwise. Mr. Fisher asked if biological surveys of the mitigation sites
were available; Mr. Carter responded that they were not.
MSUC (Marquez/Hall) (4-0) to recommend approval of Resolution 17710.
2. Recommendation to City Council/Planning Commission regarding MSCP plans for
further environmental analysis.
Planning Director Robert Leiter provided a general background on the Multiple Species
Conservation Plan process, reviewing the work conducted over the past three years by
consultants in conjunction with an MSCP working group to create standards and criteria and
identify core biological areas for an MSCP to be reviewed and approved by the U.S. Fish &
Wildlife Service. Mr. Leiter described the maps prepared which identified distinct areas of
biological resources and linkages throughout San Diego County. These maps are a part of the
draft MSCP framework plan which includes four alternatives.
Mr. Leiter pointed out and described the various maps. He reviewed the first alternative, known
as the biologically preferred alternative, which includes approximately 187,000 acres of the most
important biological resources; the second alternative, known as the multiple habitats alternative,
includes 150,000 acres of various resources; the third alternative, known as the Coastal Sage
Scrub alternative, includes 90,000 acres focused on CSS habitat; and a fourth alternative,
submitted by the Alliance for Habitat Preservation (a group of major developers and property
owners), which presented heavy use of publicly owned lands and designated open space areas,
and included Miramar. Mr. Leiter noted, however, that the Navy had not agreed to be included
in the MSCP.
Mr. Leiter indicated that recently, the City of San Diego under Mayor Golding had presented
a fifth alternative plan which attempted to create a compromise between the other four. This
plan looks at publicly-owned lands which would be viable preserve options, and attempts to
refine the identification of individual jurisdictions' open spaces as well as biological resources.
In June, the Chula Vista City Council endorsed the proposed criteria for the fifth alternative, and
directed staff to assist in preparation of this alternative.
The evaluation process was reviewed; Mr. Leiter stated that an EIR will be prepared to evaluate
all five alternatives, and will quantify the strengths and weaknesses of each; at a regional level,
jurisdictions within the MSCP plan will then evaluate ways to fill in the gaps if necessary. Mr.
Leiter added that the EIR will include an economic analysis, and should be out by July or
August. After the plans have been completed, the framework plan will be adopted on a regional
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level, after which each jurisdiction will amend their General Plan and Zoning Ordinances as
needed to implement the MSCP.
Commissioner Marquez asked what will be protected by the proposed plans that is not already
planned for preservation; Mr. Leiter explained current discussion relating to the proposed San
Miguel Ranch project as an example of new preserve areas being planned, as well as plans to
create mitigation banks. Mr. Reid added that Rancho del Rey had purchased 360 acres of
O'Nea] Canyon for off-site mitigation. Mr. Leiter stated that the new plan will make many
reserve systems permanent, and will ensure the long-term financing and maintenance of preserve
systems. Commissioner Fisher asked if this plan would interact with SANDAG's; Mr. Leiter
responded that it would.
Mr. John Brown of Dudek & Associates noted that Dudek is working with the County to identify
preserve areas, adding that SANDAG's and the County's plans will be consistent. Mr. Fisher
questioned the blank (white) spots within the County areas (east) on the Ciry of San Diego's
proposed map. Mr. Leiter stated that Ogden had performed the evaluation, and had presented
the maps based on their evaluation of biologically valuable areas. Mr. Brown concurred,
explaining the various models that had been used by Ogden, Dudek, and other consultants and
experts to arrive at the Habitat Evaluation model. He stated that the white areas referenced
probably had low concentrations of CSS.
Mr. Fisher expressed concerns that some species were not yet identified or well-researched.
Mr. Leiter pointed out that the white areas were not necessarily designated by the County's
General Plan for urban development, and that much is planned for low density and agricultural
usage. Mr. Fisher questioned references by others to the map boundaries as "hard lines". He
felt that if the boundaries indicated were truly hard lines, with development unrestricted by
biologically sensitive areas outside of these lines, there was too much habitat outside that had
not been analyzed sufficiently. Mr. Leiter stated that he did not believe that the County would
adopt the map as shown with the intent to permit urban development in the white areas, but
noted that the question should be directed to the County. He added that staff could follow up
on this issue. Mr. Brown reviewed the process by which the boundaries had been defined,
stating that he did not believe that the subject of hard lines was a serious issue at this point.
Mr. Fisher also noted that it was difficult to get a feel for the areas depicted on the various
maps. Mr. Brown stated that SANDAG maps included acetate overlays that provided
clarification of the different resource areas. Chair Burrascano suggested that overlays be
provided to more accurately depict the various resources on one map for the EIR review.
Commissioner Marquez expressed concern that Fish & Wildlife staff have not provided input
on the information presented and that it is unclear how that agency's staff members feel about
the issues. She stated that the agency's formal position will be unknown until the plan is fully
completed. Mr. Fisher asked about the "no project" alternative; Mr. Brown stated that it will
be presented, and would address current piecemeal mitigation. Mr. Fisher reiterated his
concerns regarding the lack of information presented for the white areas, primarily in the
easterly portions of the County, as it pertains to identification of potential species. Mr. Leiter
responded that this plan would not preclude opportunities relating to the identification of species
in the future.
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Chair Burrascano questioned the areas where linkages do not exist between identified core areas
(e.g. at SR 125 crossing). She also pointed out that the revegetation taking place at the Otay
River Valley area is not depicted on the map.
Commissioner Marquez stated that she found the fifth alternative to be a far cry from the first
two alternative maps. She felt that resource-wise, the fifth map is lacking, as it shows land that
is already protected and does not seem to add much. Commissioner Hall felt that alternative #5
should be combined with the others somehow, and not omitted although it should not stand
alone. Commissioner Fisher stated that he felt [hat the overlays were necessary before he would
be comfortable voting on a recommendation. Mr. Leiter suggested that the commission could
make a recommendation to allow the process to move to the EIR stage, at which time the
Commission will have more information with which to make a judgement. He noted that any
motion could include an indication that the Commission is not endorsing a particular alternative.
MSUC (Hall/Burrascano) (4-ll) to accept alternative #5 (Multi-habitat Planning Area Map)
as an alternative, but requesting that each of the alternatives be prepared with overlays on
on a vegetation map in the draft EIR. The Notice of Preparation of the Environmental
Impact Report on the MSCP shall be brought to the RCC for input on the content of the
draft EIR. This action does not constitute endorsement of the fifth alternative.
Mr. Leiter advised that more information on this project would be brought to the Commission
prior to review of the draft EIR.
STAFF COMMENTS
Mr. Reid advised that the next regular meeting would be December 12, 1994 rather than
November 28, and that there would not be a meeting on December 26.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:13 p.m.
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