HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1985/12/12 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR COUNCIL CONFERENCE
OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Thursday, December 12, 1985 Council Conference Room
4:00 p.m. City Hall
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Cox, Councilmembers Scott,
McCandliss, Malcolm, Moore
MEMBERS ABSENT: NONE
STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Goss, Assistant City Manager
Asmus, Assistant City Attorney Gill
1. REPORT SWEETWATER VALLEY MASTER PLAN (Director of
Parks & Recreation)
Mayor Cox stated he is a member of the Optimist Club and therefore
may have a potential conflict of interest.
City Manager Goss made the opening comments stating Rohr Park, the
Optimist Club and adjacent property, and the Sweetwater Park are
being integrated into one Master Plan. The consultants have
addressed the traffic and parking problems in the area and will be
presenting their recommendations.
Director of Parks and Recreation Manuel Mollinedo introduced the
Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Commission, Robert Strahl.
Mr. Strahl said he attended two out of the three meetings held by
the consultants and was impressed with the process. He did not
even know there was such a thing as an Environmental
Psychologist. All of the views of the residents attending the
meetings were taken into account and blended into the Master Plan.
Director Mollinedo introduced Joe Yamada of the firm of Wimmer,
Yamada & Associates, and gave the Council a background on this
firm's experience in park developments. Director Mollinedo
remarked that the consultants have developed several conceptual
plans for the Sweetwater Valley properties. Several meetings have
been held with local park residents, general park users, service
clubs and special interest groups. The Parks & Recreation
Commission, Commission on Aging, and the Planning Commission were
all presented with this plan and have all endorsed the "D" Master
Plan concept as will be presented. The Planning Commission
recommended that the environmental review be done on the proposed
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night-lighted ballfields and that the department investigate the
feasibility of moving the ducks along Bonita Road to the lake
adjacent to the ballfields. Also recommended was that the
interior railroad loop be taken out and only the railroad tracks
along the golf course perimeter fence be kept, creating additional
open park space.
Director Mollinedo noted that the Bonita Optimist Club has
proposed their own plans for development of the property to the
east of their facility. This plan was not submitted to any of the
staff or the commissions and therefore, staff has no input on it.
Mr. Joe Yamada, President of Wimmer, Yamada & Associates, 516
Fifth Avenue, San Diego, presented the Master Plan concept stating
the consultants took into account the budget constraints, signing,
size of the property, scheduling, and phasing. The 65 acre park
is surrounded by a beautiful golf course. Mr. Yamada stressed
that this is flexible plan. The high priorities facing the
Council today may not be that high in years to come. One of which
may be the swimming pool - this may be low on the priority list
right now. Mr. Yamada stated that the Environmental Psychologist
spent many days in Chula Vista. She attended the meetings with
the residents at which 30 to 40 people attended. Deborah Rhoades,
PhD, Human Space Associates, 801 East McKellips Road, Tempe, AZ,
is the Environmental Psychologist. Her report has been submitted
to Council.
Mr. Yamada further explained that one of the serious
considerations was the water conservation. They hired Mr. Richard
Blanchard, a top consultant in this field to work on this
concept.
Mr. Keith Simon, Project Manager, showed a number of slides
depicting the different concepts and renderings of the proposed
Master Plan. He noted the following issues which were addressed:
1. Security for the park;
2. Inadequate and improper location of the present
ballfields;
3. Respect for the surrounding residential neighborhood;
4. The parking problem;
5. The four alternate plans that were presented including
Plan "D", which is recommended;
6. Passive picnic areas;
7. The central (heart) of the park;
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8. The athletj. c complex and;
9. The maintenance center.
Mr. Simon noted only one main entry to the park is being proposed,
with a smaller entrance for emergency vehicles. Presently~ there
are 550 parking spaces proposed with 375 presently existing. Mr.
Simon noted there will be some changes to Sweetwater Road: the
curves will be smoothed out; the Provence House will remain
because the County Park Authority wants to keep it as a historical
house; many of the trees will be relocated in the picnic areas;
there will be four large shelters in the picnic area which can
house up to 20 or 30 people in one party; many concrete pathways
are being proposed (also jogging paths); there will be open areas
for kite flying and small games; new playground equipment will be
proposed; the sports complex will include lighted ballfields,
there will be four or five fields in this complex which can be
used for baseball or soccer. A central building will house a
supervisor who can monitor all the activities; 240 additional
parking spaces are being proposed for the athletic fields.
If the Provence house is removed, it will add an additional 100
parking spaces. An equestrian ring will remain in this complex.
The maintenance center is being proposed for the triangular piece
of land west of Central, south of Sweetwater Road. This
maintenance center can serve other parks in the City as well and
will also be used for storage of equipment. The Rohr Manor and
other buildings will be used for events such as art shows,
dinners, bar-b-ques and so forth. There is a fountain proposed
for the end of Rohr Manor Road near the Sunrise Building. There
is a swimming center proposed at the request of the residents in
the area - the consultants feel this is a long-term item. A
theatrical area is proposed with outdoor seating and a stage. A
Rohr Mall is proposed which can accommodate vendors, jugglers, and
an enclosed botanical garden.
Mr. Simon added the key point of the Master Plan is that it be a
flexible one.
Councilwoman McCandliss referred to the four or five baseball
fields being proposed in this Master Plan and asked whether the
consultants looked at the overall picture of the entire Chula
Vista area to see if the needs are now adequate.
Director Mollinedo commented the County is building a park further
east of this one. The City's General Plan element is very
outdated. He feels there is still a need for three or more
ballparks to be placed throughout the City. The City of Chula
Vista is deficient as far as ballfields and lighted ballfields are
concerned. In answer to Councilman Malcolm's query, Director
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Mollinedo stated that approximately 7% of the players using the
athletic fields must be residents from the City. The ballfields
are used extensively throughout the entire year with extended
hours at the lighted ballfields. It starts generally about
5:30 p.m. and goes to 10:00 p.m.
As to the noise factor, Director Mollinedo contended that the
noise factor is an important element on athletic fields. The best
proposal would be to have them in industrial areas where the
people leave at night and the lights will not bother any
residential areas. This can be done with the Getsten properties
to the east. Mayor Cox noted the shortage of lighted ballfields
in the City. At one time the City talked about having one in the
Reinstra Park.
Councilwoman McCandliss expressed her concerns with the Rohr
Mall. She does not want to see it get too commercial because it
would destroy the rural atmosphere of the park. Mr. Simon noted
it is not designated to be commercial it would just house
botanical gardens, museums, art shows, and the like.
Mr. Dale Willett representing the Optimist Foundation presented
their plan for the athletic field (east of their facility). They
agree it should be the center of all the sports activities in the
park. They have put in a great deal of money to improve the area
and have some specific concerns which are:
1. They agree the plan must be flexible;
2. The Optimist Club wants to proceed with improvement of
their lower field area and want to get started on this
now;
3. Presently they have a large area for picnickers - this
plan will remove that area;
4. There are some serious safety factors to be considered
such as setting up for the various uses of the athletic
fields;
5. The consultants' plan isolates the area for recreational
purposes; therefore, they are requesting the Council not
approve the proposed Master Plan tonight.
Mr. Dale Willett and Mr. Dino Polselli then presented the plan as
proposed by the Optimist Club showing two ballfields, one of which
can be used for a soccer field, six youth recreation fields; two
baseball diamonds; a horseshoe ring; shuffleboards; jogging trail;
parking for 130 cars; the triangular piece of property will house
about 74-78 more cars; the building will be a meeting place; and
there will be a provision for storage of equipment.
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Mr. George Kost, representing Sweetwater Valley Civic Association
said the plan has not been presented to the Association - they
would like to have some input since they are the people who have
to live with it. Mr. Kost declared the traffic is a major problem
and with five athletic fields being proposed, Sweetwater Road will
become overloaded.
Mayor Cox indicated the proposal should be presented to the
Sweetwater Valley Civic Association and suggested the Council take
a tour of this area. The Mayor expressed his concern that the
park does remain a rural area.
Mr. Ace Wischstadt , President of the "Live Steamers" miniature
railroad track in the park, stated he had attended all of the
sessions and reviewed the plans as presented. They are very much
in favor of the whole idea as something needs to be done for the
Chula Vista Live Steamers in that park. He expressed his surprise
to hear that their railway loop was to be taken out and have it
just go along the picnic area.
Councilman Moore expressed his concerns with:
1. The Parks & Recreation maintenance yard at the
triangular piece of property at the east end of the park;
2. The mixed use of the paved pathways;
3. The County Parks & Recreation structure (Provence House);
4. The botanical garden structure, Rohr Mall, adobe houses,
and the theater can be in a different phase;
5. The lighted ballfields the concern here being youth
vs. adult, baseball vs. soccer;
6. Likes the idea of the parking lots being expanded close
to Sweetwater Road;
7. Favoring the large picnic areas but is concerned with
the covered shelters and how they would be monitored.
Director Mollinedo explained that in other cities in the
State, these shelters have been in use. People call in
and make reservations however; an attendant (Parks &
Recreation personnel) must be on hand to be sure that no
one else takes the shelter and that it goes to the
person who reserves it.
MS (Malcolm/McCandliss) to move the Live Steamers railroad as they
presently exist and allow them to expand down to the west end of
the park.
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SUBSTITUTE MOTION (re: Sweetwater Valley Master Plan)
MSUC ( Cox/McCandl iss ) to refer this plan to staff to come back
with a recommendation: to evaluate the Optimist Club plan which
may necessitate a need for another community meeting; the concern
with the maintenance area for the present golf course proposed to
be moved to the triangle-shaped property along with the Parks and
Recreation maintenance yard; the possibility of extending the
contract with Wimmer, Yamada & Associates, if necessary; the
utilization of the Provence House area and possible relocation of
structure/users contact the County on this; include the mixed uses
on the pathways; no action to be taken today on the location of
the ballfields, its configuration and the lighted fields.
Councilman Scott stated that the plan was a good plan; however, he
does not want to see a plan that will attract more people into
this area. This may come about by the intensity of the use of the
recreational fields. It takes away from the rural
characteristics. Councilman Scott also noted his concerns over
the control of the recreational fields adjacent to the Optimist
Club indicating he does not want to give this to the Optimist Club
who only pay $1 a year to the City for use of their property. He
also suggested one lighted ballfield be proposed in the EastLake
area.
2. REPORT ON ACCESSIBLE CHULA VISTA TRANSIT (CVT) BUS STOP
PROGRAM (Director of Public Works/City Engineer)
Transit Coordinator Gustafson presented a written report to the
Council in which he stated that at its meeting of June 18, 1985,
Council directed staff to develop a program to make a greater
number of CVT bus stops accessible to non-ambulatory passengers in
wheelchairs. Presently, there are 289 CVT bus stops in the City.
A wheelchair lift can operate at 117 of these stops but only 31
are "fully accessible" - those are the bus stops which have a
concrete pad and 12 curb cuts associated with that bus stop.
Mr. Gustafson noted that to make all of the CVT bus stops
accessible would cost would be approximately ~563,000. A first
phase program could be implemented at a cost of $61,600. In
answer to Councilwoman McCandliss ' query, Mr. Gustafson explained
the need for the wheelchair stops noting that the ridership
averaged one per day in October and two per day in September. He
has received no complaints from the community of handicapped
persons, and recommends that nothing be done at this time.
MSUC (Scott/McCandliss) that no accessibility improvements be made
at this time.
ADJOURNMENT AT 6:15 p.m. ~ ~/~
to the meeting of December 14,
1985 at 9:00 a.m. /. nnie M. Fulasz,
Clerk
MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR ~ETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held December 12, 1985
Conference Room
The City Council met in the Council ~3~xa~a~Y~ at the City Hall,
276 Fourth Avenue on the above date at 4:00 p.m. with the
following:
Councilmen present: Scott, McCandliss, Cox, Malcolm, Moore
Councilmen absent: None
ADJOURNMENT
The Mayor adjourned the meeting until Saturday, December 14, 1985
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