HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1984/11/19 CITY COUNCIL COMMUNITY MEETING
Monday, November 19, 1984 Southwestern Col 1 ege
7:00 p.m. 900 Otay Lakes Road
Chula Vista, CA
Mayan Hall Theatre
ROLL CALL
Councilmembers present: Mayor Cox, Councilmembers Malcolm,
McCandliss, Moore, Scott (arrived late
7:30 p.m.}
Counci lmembers absent: None
Staff present: City Manager Goss, City Attorney Harron,
City Clerk Fulasz, Planning Director Krempl,
City Engineer Lippitt, Building and Housing
Director Grady
Navy staff present: Comnodore Hoagy Carmichael, Captain
Jan Cook, Commander S.H. Shepard
SANDAG staff present: Senior Planner Mike McLaughlin
OPENING R)ARKS
Mayor Cox opened the meeting announcing it was called to consider and discuss
the proposed Navy housing project contemplated for the northeast corner of
Telegraph Canyon Road and Otay Lakes Road {34.3 acres}.
He asked the people in the audience to fill out slips provided for them in the
lobby for any questions they may wish to ask the Council and Navy personnel.
Also provided in the lobby were forms for anyone wishing to serve on the Task
Force for Navy housing and slips to fill out for permission to speak.
Mayor Cox then introduced Commodore Hoagy Carmichael, Captain Jan Cook, USN,
Commander S. H. Shepard, USN and Mike McLaughlin, Sr. Planner, San Diego
Association of Governments (SANDAG).
Mayor Cox gave a background of the proposed Navy Housing: the history and
chronology of actions taken since 1971 for this particular site. He noted the
property is zoned P-C (Planned Community) subject to the provisions of the
E1 Rancho Del Rey Specific Plan which established the maximum density at 256
units. The Navy, however, is proposing to put in 200 units. The Mayor
referred to the concerns of these residents of this area noting their
questions on the impact of the schools, density, architecture, etc. He noted
the City's building code requirements and the procedure of going through the
P1 anning Commission and Design Review Board for approval.
Commu ni ty Meeting - 2 - November 19, 1984
Commodore Hoagy Carmichael discussed the Navy's need for 6,000 homes in the
San Diego area. He stated the Navy likes to build homes the people would like
and accept. After making a survey of the entire County, this site was one
that was selected. As to this date, Congress has not approved any funds for
this particular project. Most of the Navy housing complexes in the County
were built at approximately 1,000-2,000 units - they are now building smaller
complexes such as this one of 200 units which is more preferable and
acceptable i n communities.
Mr. Mike McLaughlin, SANDAG, stated this organization is a regional government
which works for all of the cities in the County. They have put together a
military housing Task Force in order to address the needs of the community.
The first thing they did was to look at the evaluation process. More than lO0
sites were submitted and they were determined for their suitability for Navy
housing. {1) SANDAG conducted a criminal justice study; (2) did a cost impact
study specificially for this particular site and {3) as a regional
organization, looked at military housing on a much broader base - throughout
the County and not in just one particular area.
Commander Shepard showed slides of various Navy housing projects in the County
noting the architecture and building requirements have been upgraded
considerably since the first housing units went in over a number of years
ago. This particular project will cost over ~15 million dollars. Over the
next few years, the Navy will spend approximately ~40 million for housing and
over $5 million of those funds will be for routine maintenance of the housing
projects. Commander Shepard discussed "turn key" housing which he explained
was to hire one contractor to do both the design and to build the units.
(Councilman Scott arrived at this time 7:30 p.m.)
Commander Shepard declared the Navy is aware of the concerns of the citizens
and plans to address those in the Request For Proposals (RFP's). The Navy
welcomes the input of the residents and urges them to sign up for the Task
Force. It would take approximately six months for the RFP's to go out and the
community will be involved throughout the entire RFP selection process.
Landscaping is al so reviewed throughout the process.
Mayor Cox announced the Council and Navy would now answer the questions
submitted by the audience. Approximately 100 questions were submitted which,
in summary, were concerns for:
devaluation of homes in the area; traffic congestion; Telegraph Canyon Road
widening; the types of personnel who will be living in these homes; property
and sales tax to be derived from this complex; transportation; school impact
and busing of children; the site selection; maintenance of the units; the
future outlook of the housing - how will they look in five years; funds to
purchase the property; the time element involved in the construction; crime
rate; density factor; drug use among Navy personnel; SANDAG requirements for
the site; comparison of this complex with other Navy housing in the County and
comparison with the Scripps Ranch Navy Housing.
Community Meeting - 3 - November 19, 1984
Bob Dingman, President of the Homeowner's Association of Scripps Ranch, stated
the average income of the families living in that area is about ~50,000. The
homes range between $137,00 - $380,000. When the Navy project came in they
named it the Pomerado Road project - the people in Scripps Ranch fo~med a Task
Force and worked very closely with the Navy. They were able to change the
pitch's on the roof, the color of the units, get more landscaping (from 15 to
lO0 trees); fences, etc. Mr. Dingman urged the citizens of this area to form
a similar Task Force and work with the Navy.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Speaking against the proposed project were: Lorraine Andten, 1649 Yale Street;
Bill Mangrum, 1865 Citadel; Tish Mangrum, 1865 Citadel; Martha Gonnan,
1825 Citadel Ct; Pete Peterson, 1505-D Apache Drive; Harral Grant,
912 Rutgets; Don Bodie, 1654 Ithaca; Edward R. Bancroft, 1976 Gotham St;
Sally Grant, 912 Rutgers; James H. Fortnet, 1732 Ithaca; Dave Wilson, 1907 Coe
Place and Ben Levin, 1505-C Apache, (all of Chula Vista). Their comments were:
1. The level of income and types of people to be housed in these units.
2. The cost of these homes as compared to others in the County.
3. What would be the school impact and the busing of school children.
4. Living adjacent to the units, the concern is what the houses will
look like five years from now.
5. Concern with Federal Housing Projects and their run-down condition
i n a matter of time.
6. Strongly urge compliance with all City's rules and regulations.
7. Concern that the Navy will not join in widening Telegraph Canyon
Road.
8. The project will be no benefit to the City whatever - no property
taxes.
9. Consider the rights of the people.
lO. Recommendation that only E-6 or E-9 be the minimum standard of
people living in the units.
ll. The impact this will have on people coming into this area to buy
homes.
12. To stop the project, the people should look to the appropriation on
the Congressional level.
Community Meeting - 4 - November 19, 1984
COUNCIL COMMENTS
a. Councilman Moore expressed his commitment to the due process - whether it
be a developer or the Navy.
b. Councilman Scott had no comments.
c. Councilwoman McCandliss noted this ~articular site was No. 12 out of 24
selected in the County. Because of its availability, it has become the
No. 1 site. She stated the Council has requested from the Navy, in
writing, a commitment that they will adhere to all of the building codes
and requirements of the City. If they do not do this, she would consider
opposing the project.
do Councilman Malcolm acknowledged the fact that the Navy has yet to give
the City that commitment in writing and questioned whether or not the
funding will become available for the project.
Mayor Cox thanked the people for their attendance at the meeting. He stated
the Council shares a great number of their concerns such as the impact on
schools; the offsite improvements; traffic signals etc. He reiterated that as
the site now stands, 256 units can be built on it. The Navy will be building
200 units which is a lesser density. The Mayor stated his greatest concern is
what is it going to look like - will it devaluate the homes in the area. The
Navy has assured the City they will work with them on all of these concerns.
To date, they have not acquired the property. Mayor Cox stated he will be
initiating and setting up the Task Force in the next two or three weeks and
urged anyone who wished to serve to fill out the slips and give them to the
City Clerk.
ADJOUR)ENT AT lO:O0 p.m. to the regular City Council meeting of Tuesday,
November 20, 1984 at 7 p.m.
City Clerk
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