HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1975/05/14 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday BUDGET SESSION #2 May 14, 1975
An adjourned regular meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was
held on the above date beginning at 4:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, City Hall,
276 Fourth Avenue, with the following
Councilmen present: Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl
Councilmen absent: None
Staff present: City Manager Cole, Assistant City Manager Asmus,
Director of Finance Grant, Assistants to the City
Manager Larry Wittenberg and Greg Smith
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1211 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
ADMINISTRATION by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 1211 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1260
COb~VlUNITY DEVELOPMENT Director of Community Development Desrochers
explained that most of this budget will be
reimbursed from the bond sale. If every-
thing goes well, the City should be reim-
bursed with 80% or 90% of this cost.
(Councilman Egdahl arrived at this time)
Publications Mr. Desrochers explained that there is money
in the Block Grant for this purpose. A
"first-class" brochure would be $3,300.00
for 5,000 copies. A community data book
would cost approximately $2,000.00. Another
brochure to be published is a set of sta-
tistics including maps of industrial sites.
Motion to supplement It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
Printing and Binding by Councilman Egdahl and unanimously carried
Account (5212) that the sum of $1,500.00 be put into
Account 5212 bringing this account up to
$3,000.00 with the provision that the funds
currently budgeted would not be encumbered.
(Councilman Hobel arrived at this time)
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hyde, seconded
Activity Number 1260 by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 1260 (Community Devel-
opment) be approved with the additional
$1,500.00 in Account 5212.
Budget Session 2 2 May 14, 1975
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1130 Neil Haas, representing the Visitors Bureau,
CHULA VISTA VISITORS read the requirements from CALTRANS for a
~uND CONV£NTION BUREAU Visitors Bureau on a freeway site. He
noted especially the requirement for a
24-hour operation, seven days a week. Mr.
Haas explained that this new operation will
be located on 1-805 on property leased
from Creaser and Warwick (Mex-Insur) for
$1.00 a year.
Council discussion followed regarding the
amount of money given this organization
last year, the CALTRANS requirement, ser-
vices to the City that this Bureau can
render, the City's subsidization program,
and benefits to the Third Avenue by
directing visitors through this area.
CETA employee Councilman Egdahl asked about the legality
of placing a CETA employee at the Bureau
in lieu of giving the organization a sum
of money.
City Manager Cole said he would check into
this; however, he questioned whether it
could be done since this is a private or-
ganization.
Discussion then ensued as to the actual
services rendered by this Visitors Bureau
to the City and whether an evaluation
could be made of this.
Motion to consider It was moved by Councilman Hyde and secon~
the operation as a ded by Councilman Egdahl that a portion of
service what they do is to be considered as a ser-
vice to the City and that, under the Coun-
cil's policy, it would be proper to pay for
that service.
Discussion of Councilman Scott spoke against the motion
motion declaring that it does not state an amount
certain.
Motion modified It was moved by Councilman Hyde and secon-
ded by Mayor Hamilton that a part of the
operation of the Visitors and Convention
Bureau be considered a service to the
community and therefore, for this year,
the City would fund 50% of those expenses
directly related to personnel, rent, prop-
erty taxes and utilities.
Budget Session 2 3 May 14, 1975
The numbers would be:
Personnel - 4,800 and 12,848
Payroll taxes - 1,765
Rent - 3,001
Property taxes - 600
Gas, electric and water - 1,000
(Telephone specifically excluded)
Tourist package - 1,200
Discussion of motion Mr. Haas stated that the amount needed was
16,550 and he could not begin this operation
on any lesser amount.
Discussion followed on what was contained
in the Tourist Package. Councilman Scott
raised the issue of duplication of efforts
by having a Bureau on I-5 and another on
1-805, indicating that it might be more
feasible to go with just one Center.
Explanation of motion Councilman Hyde explained that his motion
was definitely intended to identify those
particular aspects of their project which
were non-operational.
Mr. Haas reiterated that the total needed
for the operation of the Center is $30,829.00
and on a matching fund basis with the City,
he needs $16,550.00 plus the sign cost
($7,000.00). He added that if they are
successful in getting more members or more
funds than that stated, those monies would
be reimbursed to the City.
Motion failed The motion made by Councilman Hyde speci-
fying the amounts of money to be allocated
to the Center failed by the following vote,
to-wit:
Ayes: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl
NOES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton
Absent: None
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, and sec-
$16,550 onded by Mayor Hamilton that the sum of
$16,550 be granted to the Visitors and
Convention Bureau.
Motion amended Mayor Hamilton asked that the motion include
the statement that should the Bureau raise
more money (memberships) this be reimbursed
to the City.
Councilman Egdahl agreed to include this
in his motion.
Budget Session 2 4 May 14, 1975
Discussion of motion Councilman Hyde spoke against the motion
declaring that the motion puts the City
back into the operation of the facility
which is counter to the policy of the
Council.
Motion failed The motion failed by the following vote,
to-wit:
Ayes: Mayor Hamilton, Councilman Hobel
NOES: Councilmen Egdahl, Scott, Hyde
Absent: None
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hobel and sec-
$18,000.00 onded by Mayor Hamilton that the Tourist
and Convention Bureau be granted a sum of
$18,000.00 for this next fiscal year.
Motion failed The motion failed by the following vote,
to-wit:
Ayes: Councilmen Hobel, Hamilton
NOES: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl, Scott
Absent: None
Recess A recess was called at 5:30 p.m. and the
meeting reconvened at S:42 p.m.
Motion to match It was moved by Mayor Hamilton and seconded
dollar for dollar by Councilman Hobel that the City match
the Tourist and Convention Bureau dollar
for dollar and that $7,000.00 be provided
for the capital outlay fund.
Discussion of motion Mayor Hamilton explained that the City will
be matching the Bureau's income - not the
itemized budget - but what the Bureau can
come up with in revenues and no limit.
Councilman Hyde spoke against the motion
stating it would make the City a partner
to this operation.
Councilman Egdahl commented that the motion
needs a figure certain for financial pur-
poses.
Figure inserted Mayor Hamilton stated he is referring to the
in motion Bureau's total income: 14,279.00 to a
maximum of 16,550.00.
Councilman Hobel indicated that the proper
maximum is 30,829.00.
Budget Session 2 5 May 14, 1975
Included in motion Mayor Hamilton agreed to include this in
the motion -- that the City's matching
amount would be one-half of 30,829.00 or
15,414.50.
Motion carried The motion carried by the following vote,
to-wit
AYES: Councilmen Hamilton, Hobel, Egdahl
Noes: Councilmen Hyde, Scott
Absent None
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
$7,000.00 by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried
that the approval be given to the capital
outlay - $7,000.00.
AQUATICS ASSOCIATION It was moved by Councilman Scott and secon-
ded by Councilman Hyde that this be moved
back into the Parks and Recreation program.
Mayor Hamilton noted that the request was
that it carry the same account number on it.
Included in motion Councilman Scott agreed to include this in
his motion - Councilman Hyde agreed to the
second.
Motion carried The motion carried by the following vote,
to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hyde, Hamilton,
Egdahl
Noes Councilman Hobel
Absent: None
Activity 1130 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
approved by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 1130 (Community
Promotions) be approved as recommended by
the City Manager and as amended.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1720 Councilman Hobel questioned why the
Bus Service Operations 120,720.00 was included in capital outlay
since applications have been made to Urban
Mass Transit Authority for new buses and
they have not acted favorably on it.
City Manager Cole explained that the amount
reflects anticipation of the possibility
of the application being approved.
Councilman Hobel read from a CPO report
which indicated that federal support might
not be forthcoming for this replacement
of buses.
Budget Session 2 6 May 14, 1975
Bill Strong Mr. Bill Strong, on the administrative staff
CPO of CPO, stated that it does appear that
UMTA is not interested in financing the
capital program as proposed by Chula Vista.
Mr. Strong indicated that it is because
Chula Vista has a very small system and
UMTA is more interested in consolidating
operations - having an areawide approach
for transit to urban areas.
Council discussion followed regarding the
operations of Oceanside and Escondido and
the monies granted these cities.
Accounting procedures Assistant to City Manager Wittenberg ex-
plained that San Diego Transit would not
affect the general fund budget -- it
would affect their draw on the City's
local transportation fund. Their level is
static at $781.00 - the difference which
would come out of the local transportation
fund is not reflected in the budget because
the City never sees that money.
Increase in cost of In answer to Councilman Hobel's query, Dir-
service by Aztec ector of Public Works Robens explained
that in Account 5271, the sum of $31,560.00
is the figure submitted by Aztec Bus Lines
for the cost of next year's service. It
amounts to an increase of about 10¢ per
mile. The staff is presently researching
this amount.
Claude Page In answer to Councilman Scott's question,
San Diego Transit Mr. Page declared that San Diego Transit
could not take over all the routes in
Chula Vista, if asked to do so, until
January 1976 because of priorities already
established. Mr. Page ~ommented on the
routes established for other communities
and the costs of service.
Patrick Doogan Mr. Doogan informed the Council that Aztec
Aztec Bus Lines operated at a loss last year (for Chula
Vista) but that he would be willing to
continue this operation based on the in-
creased rate.
New service Mr. Page reported on the service to be pro-
vided Chula Vista this next fiscal year --
same service as present plus the long-
awaited 100 Express Route -- will total
(out of LTS support) $139,000.00.
Budget Session 2 7 May 14, 1975
Cost of Chula If San Diego Transit took over the entire
Vista service operation of Chula Vista as it is now being
serviced, the cost would be $409,298.00
(out of LTF money). This is based on a
cost of 29¢ per average fare per passenger.
Senate Bill Mr. Page commented that Senator Mills has
a Bill pending now that has an amendment
to it that states that any uncommitted LTF
monies will be frozen at some date.
Mr. Strong explained that the Bill contains
a provision whereby any money not allocated
from the City's funds prior to June 30 of
this year, 75% of the money would be re-
tained by the Transit Development Board for
purposes of developing a fixed guideway
systems.
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hyde that Activ-
Activity Number 1720 ity Number 1720 be approved.
No second to motion The motion died for lack of second.
Council discussion Council discussed the City's annual SB325
allocation (approximately $700,000.00), the
cost of Aztec's operations, fare box col-
lections, and expirations dates of con-
tracts with the bus companies.
Councilman Hyde discussed the uncom-
mitted transit funds (LTF); stating that
he doesn't see the sense of using $200,000.00
to save $26,000.00 and, at the same time,
losing control of the Chula Vista City
Lines. The money is to be used for an
areawide transit system in which the
Chula Vista has an interest.
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hyde, seconded
Activity Number 1720 by Councilman Scott and unanimously car-
ried that Activity Number 1720 be approved
as recommended by the City Manager.
Dinner break A dinner break was called at 6:40 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 7:12 p.m.
(Councilman Egdahl left the meeting at
this time)
ACTIVITY NUMBERS 2411- City Manager Cole explained that the addi-
2440 BUILDING AND HOUSING tional personnel requested (one inspector)
INSPECTION is to be financed by the Community Block
Act.
Budget Session 2 8 May 14, 1975
A Clerk I position is being deleted and the
Director of Building and Housing would like
to have his Seasonal Assistant reinstated
($2,080.00) in this place.
Custodians In answer to the Council's query, Director
Grady explained that he did not include
the custodians for the new library in this
budget since it would only constitute ser-
vices for about one month of the fiscal
year.
Sick Leave - Pay in lieu Councilman Hobel asked the City Manager for
a report on this item.
Activity Numbers 2411- It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
2440 approved by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that Activity Numbers 2411 through 2440 be
approved as recommended by the City Manager
with a change in personnel: eliminating
the Clerk I position and reinstating the
seasonal assistant ($2,080.00).
ACTIVITY NUMBERS 2311- Mayor Hamilton questioned the City Manager
2340 FIRE on the reduction of overtime in Account
2312 in the Fire Training/Maintenance
Account.
City Manager Cole explained that the actual
overtime used during the last ten months
projected to $180.00 and this was used as
a basis for his recommendation.
Purchase of Vehicle Councilman Scott questioned the need for a
new automobile.
Fire Chief Smithey explained that this
would replace a car used by one of the in-
spectors; the Fire Chief would get the new
car and his car would be given to the in-
spector.
Council discussion ensued regarding the need
for a large sedan and Council's policy to
purchase compact cars, as needed.
City Manager Cole noted that there would
not be too much difference in cost (approxi-
mately $200.00) between this sedan and a
compact and suggested the Council reduce
this amount by $200.00 and a smaller vehi-
cle be purchased.
Budget Session 2 9 May 14, 1975
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
Activity Numbers 2311- by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
2340 that approval be given to Activity Num-
bers 2311-2340 as recommended by the City
Manager with a notation made in regard to
'the automobile ($200.00 deducted from this
account).
SCHEDULING CIP BUDGET Councilman Hobel asked that this be sche-
duled for 4:30 p.m. tomorrow, (Thursday,
May 15) as he may be late coming to the
meeting.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1300 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
REDEVELOPMENT by Mayor Hamilton and unanimously carried
ADMINISTRATION that Activity Number 1300 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
Council discussion followed concerning the
amount of money budgeted for legal services.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1740 Director of Redevelopment Operations stated
CON~IUNITY DEVELOPMENT that he just received the papers today from
BLOCK GRANT the federal government dated May 1, 1975
which is when that year will begin (for
accounting purposes). This will not coin-
cide with the City's fiscal year.
Director of Finance Grant explained that
the Council will receive a resolution at the
next meeting appropriating this sum of
$118,000.00 and therefore, recommended this
budget item be scratched.
Activity Number 1740 It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
removed from budget by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 1740 be removed from
the budget.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 2500 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
EMERGENCY SERVICES by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 2500 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITIES NUMBER 3111- City Manager Cole explained the change in
3320 PUBLIC WORKS personnel: deletion of Junior Civil to
Assistant Civil Engineer.
Council discussion followed in which the
Director of Public Works Robens explained
the need for the requested equipment.
Activity Number 3111 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
approved by Mayor Hamilton and unanimously Carried
that Activity Number 3111 (Public Works--
Administration) be approved as recommended
by the City Manager.
Budget Session 2 10 May 14, 1978
Activity Number 3120 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
approved by Mayor Hamilton and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 3120 (Public Works--
Engineering - Civil) be approved as recom-
mended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY Number 3130 It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded
approved with by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried
modification that Activity Number 3130 (Public Works --
Traffic Operations) be approved with the
deletion of the chair and desk ($330.00.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 3220 Director of Public Works Robens spoke in
STREET OPERATIONS justification for a new street sweeper
($40,280.00).
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
Activity Number 3220 by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 3220 (Public Works -
Street Operations) be approved as recom-
mended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 3290 It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
PUBLIC WORKS by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE that Activity Number 3290 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 3320 It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded
Sewer System Maintenance by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried
that Activity Number 3520 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 3330 It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
PUBLIC WORKS - SEWER by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried
INCOME that Activity Number 3330 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 1720 It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
Bus Service Operations by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that soon after the close of budget opera-
tions, the staff give the Council a complete
recap of the bus operations.
Discussion of motion The Council concurred that the report should
not be a lengthy one which would take up a
great deal of the staff's time. It should
be an analysis of the bus operations, and
whether or not the Council should be con-
sidering a change.
Councilman Hobel felt this report should
have been a part of the budget packet --
what would be the impact of transferring
the bus operations to San Diego Transit
and a profit and loss statement from Aztec.
Budget Session 2 11 May 14, 1975
Director of Public Works Robens indicated
the report can be ready in two weeks.
ACTIVITY NUMBER 3340 It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
PUBLIC WORKS - SEWER by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried
SERVICE that Activity Number 3340 be approved as
recommended by the City Manager.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at
9:10 p.m. to the meeting scheduled for
Thursday, May 15, 1975 at 4:00 p.m.
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