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r1INUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING
OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Thursday February 24, 1977
A Special Meetin9 of the Redevelopment Agency of the City of Chula Vista, California was
held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 276 Fourth
Avenue, Chula Vista, with the following
Members Present: Chairman Scott, Members Hyde, Cox, Egdahl, Hobel
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Executive Director Cole, Special Counsel Reed, Community Development
Director Desrochers, Director of Planning Peterson, Community Development
Coordinator Henthorn
REVIEW OF PROPOSALS, Community Development Director Desrochers explained
TOWN CENTRE REDEVELOPMENT that at the February 3, 1977 meeting of the Rede-
PROJECT FOCUS AREA velopment Agency, three finalists were selected. The
format of the meeting will be that each proposer will
make its presentation without the others present. The
~-J'I\!~; Gruens are present to assist the Agency and staff.
They have not seen the summaries as presented by the
developers. At the conclusion of the presentations,
staff will provide the Agency with a recommendation.
Town Centre Mr. Hendrickson explained that their project is one
Associates ,-.;;..:';'; of greater magnitude than that proposed by the other
Leo R. B. Hendrickson appl i cants. They have attempted to minimize the
impact on owners of the property. Their concept of
high rise residential will increase densities. Proj ect
plans of increasing rental area by underground parking
is a phase that requires much study and consideration.
It is designed to minimize impact on the balance of
the downtown area. Impact on the other property owners
in the area can be mitigated by Town Centre Associates,
as they own 4y. acres. They propose to offer owners
three options: 1) cash; 2) if desired, proceeds from
bond monies could be used to acquire other properties
and trade, and 3) give them an agreed value (limited
partnership) and when the project is completed, the
same appraiser would evaluate the property. The owner
would have the opportunity of staying in the project
area and taking property value in the form of property
at its present value. Town Centre Associates would
agree to lease the present shopping center with an
option to buy. Rent under the lease would be to
pay the bonded debt, less the tax increment the City
recei ves. It Vlould be the responsibility of Town
Centre Associates to see that the project is self-
sustaining. Mr. Hendrickson stated Town Centre
Associates does not have a complete plan, but can
offer a \1i 11 i ngness to coopera te wi th the City. He
added that they are not responsive if this is a
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bidding stage; they want the option to negotiate.
NOTE: EXHIBIT "A" ILLUSTRATES THE TEN QUESTIONS
POSED TO EACH DEVELOPER. THEY WILL BE
ANSWERED ACCORDINGLY IN EACH DEVELOPER'S
PRESENTATION.
Answer to Ten Mr. Hendrickson answered the ten questions as follows:
Questions
1) Town Centre Associates wants to have as many
of the existing merchants as possible to enter.
We would be in a better position than anyone
to offer that.
2) Already answered earlier in the presentation.
3) Their method of construQtion proposed is the
fastest method. Si nce 4y' acres does not have to
be acquired, high rise construction can be started
right away (design and financing); towers,
residential and senior citizens, would have to
wait. Mr. Salerno noted the total construction
could be carried out in a year or eighteen months
depending on financing. Mr. Hendrickson added
that there is great motiviation because of the
tax increment.
4) Mr. Zogob stated $1 million in property is as
good as cash.
5) They do not contemplate charges for parking.
6) As to condition of property on delivery to them,
this would have to be negotiated. They want
this project to be as big as possible.
7) No finder fees are required.
8) There is no determination as to a finite sum
which they would be willing to advance to the
Agency in order to commence acquisition. They
would want to get the acquisition started as
soon as possible to get the tax increment. They
are willing to enter into agreements with property
owners so they won't need any money (they look
upon their property in the project area as money
being advanced).
g) They would not consider developing a portion of
the property for housing only/commercial only.
10) Their plan is flexible and the developer would be
willing to consider modifications.
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Mr. Salerno stated that the shopping area would be
in character with the rest of Third Avenue. Materials
used would be wood exterior with heavy trim and lots
of windows, two-story heights, underground parking and
light wells extending down into the parking area below.
As for auto circulation, he suggested changes to
facilitate parking circulation. Perhaps consideration
should be given to a traffic light at Center Street.
Dr. Gruen asked if second floor retail would work.
Mr. Salerno stated this would probably be used for
office space. Mr. Salerno then described Foster
City-Dillion Construction method at less then $25
per squa re foot. This would meet the Uniform Building
Code for the City of Chula Vista.
Mr. Hendrickson stated Town Centre Associates would
propose to take care of the acquisition program. He
added that the only acquisition would be the property
between Garrett and Third. The shopping center space
would stay much as it is (the super market might be
moved) . Mr. Salerno added that they attempted to
stay with the original plan, but want to show flex-
ibility. Mr. Hendrickson stated the pricing figures
are all on the original plan.
In answer to Member Hobel's question, Director Desrochers
stated that this plan does conform with the City's
Des i gn Manua 1 . Mr. Salerno, in answer to Dr. Gruen's
inquiry as to retail commercial space, indicated the
retail gross floor area would be 128,790 sq. ft.
Dr. Gruen questioned the owner participation arrangements
as to where the return on the investment is to come
from. Mr. Hendrickson stated the money comes from
the tax increment. Executive Director Cole asked if
the tax increment is to come from the total district,
or can it be limited to this area? Special Counsel
Reed stated they would be talking about pledging the
tax increment from throughout the total project. In
terms of analyzing this project, staff is estimating
tax increment from the development area.
Mr. Hendrickson explained that the project can be
finished in 18 months from the date of delivery of
the land. Mr. Zogob indicated this is an outside
fi gure. The commercial could be done within a year
from the time of acquisition. Mr. Salerno interjected
that if the land is delivered free of all encumbrances,
the project could be completed within the 18 months.
Member Hobel commented that the Foster-Dillion method
of construction being proposed should be given much
consideration.
Recess ca 11 ed A recess was called at 8:25 p.m. and the meeting
reconvened at 8:35 p.m.
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Collins/La Jolla Development Mr. Collins commented on his company's experience
Harry Collins in the design of shopping centers, industrial and
residential areas, and condominium design as well.
Mr. Geritz. Project Architect for SGPA, reviewed
the Collins plan for the Agency. He noted the pri-
mary concerns as being the viability of the existing
commercial area and integrating the resi denti al
development, getting a strong linkage between all
elements involved. He further explained that they
developed a series of strong pedestrian spines,
increased the units from 69 to 84 and felt the need
to create an effect of more open area at major inter-
section points and developing a series of buildings.
He added that the residential has been increased, the
commercial decreased.
Mr. Geritz indicated the Collins Company is proposing
to develop the entire site in a single phase. The
entire construction sequence is about 7-8 months total
for the acquisition of property. He pointed out first
and second demolition stage targets and noted the
importance of including the service station and Dean's
Photo (at Madrona and Third Avenue) in acquisition.
He added that off-street improvements which may be
required to be carried out by the Agency are not part
of the development costs.
Mr. Collins remarked that he has analyzed the Alpha
Beta supermarket; and the plot plan and size of space
for a super drug are not practical.
1) Their plan gives consideration to existing tenants.
43% of the existing tenants are relocated to another
area within the project, or remain in the same place.
This company would work with the tenants for four
major commercial tenants on Center Street in the
project; rents below market for these uses are
feasible.
2) Regarding owner participation agreements, when costs
are analyzed, the economics would not be there and
such agreements do not appear feasible. There would
be complications with parking, etc.
3) Phasing would consist of commercial being completed
within 6-8 months after delivery of land. They
are looking at less than a year for completion
of the entire project, all in one phase except for
a delay in relocating the market.
4) They would be willing to provide a letter of credit
for $10,000 with the condition that an agreement
be executed with the Agency as outlined in the
proposal.
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5) Parking would be on an open, non-paid basis, one
car for each 285 square feet commercial and 1\
cars per residential unit.
6) Before implementing their plan, they expect the
Agency to handle demolition of existing buildings
and install off-site improvements. Some parking
and landscaping improvements would be provided.
They propose the elimination of a storage building
and Dean's Photo and Danish Freeze from the project
in the park area.
7) Under their proposal, no finder's fee is required.
8) They would be willing to advance up to $1 million
toward the acquisition of land and buildings with
adequate security.
g) They are interested in developing the total project,
rather than a portion of the prooerty.
10) The flexibility of their plan is minimal, with the
exception of refinements in design and landscaping.
Director Desrochers remarked the Collins Company has
developed and submitted a pro-forma of costs. This
has been analyzed by staff and found to be reasonable.
Mr. Collins reiterated the Company's past experience
and expertise in this type of development. He feels
costs, rents, planning, etc. are real. He added
he hopes retention of tenants will minimize relocation.
Mr. Collins added the estimated differential in sales
tax equals $100,000 a year sales tax revenue to the
City.
Recess called A recess was called at 9:05 p.m. and the meeting
reconvened at 9:12 p.m.
Calmark/M.S.1.
John Cotton, Architect Through a slide presentation, Mr. Cotton reviewed the
proposal before the Agency, noting land use for housing,
elderly housing, specialty center and main commercial
area along Fourth to tie in with Third. He mentioned
Calmark's efforts to save buildings and to develop the
park coming off F Street rather than off Third and
related housing to the park (senior housing related
to passive areas of the park). He discussed building
forms involved and the efforts they have made to bring
a green park through the housing.
As for parking, there will be \ to 1 space per unit for
the elderly, 2-1 parkin~ for two and three bedroom
condominiums. They have attempted to create housing
for middle income people, \1ith the character cO'l1plementarj
to that existing in Chu1a Vista now (tile roofs, etc.),
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Mr. Cotton further discussed the condos, specialty
center and shops, types of apartments, and
pedestrian centers.
J.B. Brown Mr. Brown stated he feels the commercial proposal
President of Calmark has advantages by the retention of existing structures.
Their goal is to retain as many tenants as possible
and retain a rent structure they will be able to
afford. He added the residential area is low scale
and can meet identifiable market needs. The
elderly housing is important and makes available
Community Development funds.
Mr. Cotton added this plan calls for 143 res i denti a 1
units. He commented his company has a well-conceived
and well-thought out project; they are "doers" and
can get the job done.
E.1. Noxon Mr. Noxon discussed the price allocated for
M.S.1. commercial property. He remarked it would be
$2 per square foot for commercial land in order
to keep rents for existing tenants at the low end
of the scale. Their rental schedule calls for ~n
average rent of $5.40 per square foot. Paying
more for the land would effect higher rents for
tenants(which would be passed on), but he commented
they do not want the original $2 to be a hard and
fast offer.
Agency contribution of $2 million could easily be
supported. They feel the Agency could obtain this
money from the tax increment, and they would
guarantee that money can be raised and that bonds
could be sold to make the proposal feasible. Mr.
Cotton noted that the widening of Third Avenue
would not be a part of their proposal.
Parking for elderly housing In answer to Mrs. Gruen's question about parking for
the housing, Mr. Cotton explained that spaces would
not be next to the unit, which might be inconvenient
but has been accepted in other areas.
Answer to Ten Questions rk. Noxon, and Mr. Brown answered the ten
questions in letter form. Following are their
specific responses:
1) Our plan of development is specifically phased
to allow existing merchants to continue in business
while new construction proceeds. Existing merchants
will be given a first right to choose a new location.
The remodeled and renovated tenant spaces will be
leased at a lower rental rate than newly con-
structed space. This space will be offered first
to existing merchants.
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2) Owner Participation Agreements could be
effectuated for some of the buildings which are
indicated to remain and be renovated on Third
Avenue. The owners of these buildings, however,
would have to agree to reconstruct and upgrade
the stores in accordance with standards to be
proposed by the developer and approved by the
Agency.
3) As was indicated in the previously submitted
proposal, the Calmark residential development
activity can begin immediately and start con-
struction on the conventional housing (either
ownership or rental) as soon as is practicable
from a cons tructi on and producti on standpoi nt,
but not later than six months following the
start of the elderly construction. The elderly
program will have been completely constructed
within twelve months after the start of con-
struction and 97% occupied within two months
thereafter. It is anticipated that the con-
ventional programs will take seventeen to twenty
months for completion of construction and market
absorption leading to total occupancy.
Exhibit No. 1 refers to the time schedule for
the commercial development.
4) Calmark and M.S.I. are willing to deposit an
irrevocable Letter of Credit in the amount of
$25,000 during the negotiation period to secure
our obligation to negotiate workable terms and
conditions of a Disposition and Development
Agreement. Performance bonds and/or deposits
for subsequent periods will be determined.
5) Elderly housing parking ratio one space per two
units with onsite allowance provided for a one to
one ratio should it later prove necessary. Con-
ventional ownership two spaces for each unit.
Conventional rental parking for one space per
unit with allowance for adding up to one space
per bedroom at a later date if necessary.
Commercial provides 430 spaces or a ratio of 2.9
spaces per 1,000 square feet of commercial space.
6) Residential land to be delivered clear and free
of all encumbrances including elimination of
easements; clear and fill property, complete
offsite improvements and obtain proper zoning.
It would be a benefit to the City and the project
if the City were to place utilities underground.
Commercial property should be delivered with buildings
removed where required and adequate utilities brought
to the site. Utilities in streets to be vacated
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should be terminated or removed. The Agency
should also be responsible for constructing
any offsite street improvements, providing
required rezoning and/or variances, and the
elimination of possible conflicting easements.
7) No finder's fee required.
8) Our analysis of the municipal financing requirements
indicate that no advance funds will be required
in order for the Agency to commence acquisition.
This is possible through various techniques which
Calmark and M.S.I. will assist in. Should unfore-
seen difficulties arise, Calmark will investigate
other solutions in concert with the Agency, including
the advancement of funds.
g) Either party, Calmark residential or MSI commercial
would consider its program without the other.
However, a major strength of the Calmark/MSI team
is, each acting in its own field of expertise,
have joined together under one design concept.
10) While Calmark and MSI do not consider that it is
appropriate at this time to make substantive
modifications to the proposals as presented,
during the negotiation period it is expected
that additional information and input from the
Agency and staff will be given.
Discussion ensued on the possible implementation of
an auto service center. Calmark would attempt to find a
site in Chula Vista by working with local realtors.
The site would be purchased with private funds and
augmented with Agency resources. They are attempting
to locate people who could relocate with other auto
stores, and possibly a center for lease or sale.
Member Hyde asked the Gruens about separation of
commercial and residential costs. Dr. Gruen indicated
there would be no commingling of funds in any case.
Dr. Gruen commented on staff's coming up with1he fact
that the proposal would require a write-down for $2
million and asked what is missin~. They have reviewed
numbers shown by staff and feel 275 thousand a year in
tax increments would be realized. They disagree with
staff's estimate which they feel is too conservative
because they do not show the potential of fixtures and
income.
Recess called A recess was called at 9:55 p.m. and the meeting re-
convened at 10:05 p.m.
Developers commended for Agency members commended all three developers for the
presentations time and effort devoted to each presentation.
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Motion to Prepare It was moved by Member Hobel, seconded by Member Hyde
Matrix for Special and unanimously carried that staff be directed along
Meeting with Gruen + Gruen to prepare matrix on the three
proposals for a special meeting on March 10. Along
with that, the Agency would entertain comments from
the community.
Member Hyde asked that the Town Centre Project Area
Committee be advised of the proceedings and their
comments be solicited.
Community Development Director Desrochers asked that
no new information be presented at the meeting of
March 10.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 10:02 p.m. to the regularly
scheduled Agency meeting of March 3, 1977 at 7:00 p.m.
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Paul G. Desrochers, Secretary
Community Development Director
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