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October 3, 2001
The attached minutes for August 14, 2000 were never approved. The Resource Conservation
Commission membership has changed since August 14,2000, and now they cannot be approved.
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE
RESOURCE CONSERVATION COMMISSION
August 14, 2000
Public Services Building
Conference Room 1
CALL MEETING TO ORDER: Vice-Chair Charles Bull called the meeting to order at
6:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL/MOTIONS TO EXCUSE:
MSC (Thomas/Diaz) to excuse Cindy Burrascano. Vote: (4-0)
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chair Charles Bull, Commissioners Teresa Thomas,
Steve Thomas and Juan Diaz
GUESTS: Mike Komula, Pacific Noise Control
Dennis Marcin, Helix Environmental
David Claycomb, Helix Environmental
Greg Mattson, McGill Martin Self, Inc.
Harry Burrowes, McGill Martin Self, Inc.
STAFF PRESENT: Marisa Lundstedt, Environmental Projects Manager
Linda Bond, Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 17, 2000
The minutes of July 17, 2000 could not be approved since the Commission was not in
full attendance.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. 15-00-42 - Olympic Parkway Widening from Oleander to Brandywine.
Ms. Marisa Lundstedt (Environmental Projects Manager) gave a brief introduction
of the project.
Mr. David Claycomb (Helix Environmental, 8100 La Mesa Blvd., Suite 150, La
Mesa, CA 91941-6452) presented an overview of the project, giving the site
location and project description. The primary issues are: geophysical, water,
hazardous materials, visual quality, noise and paleontological resources.
Commissioner T. Thomas asked to have the air quality during construction
addressed. Mr. Dennis Marcin (Helix Environmental, 8100 La Mesa Blvd., Suite
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150, La Mesa, CA 91941-6452) stated that there is an air quality technical report
and conclusions were that they would be in conformance with the State
guidelines for emissions and construction. The project is included in regional
transportation plans and judged to be in conformance.
Commissioner T. Thomas stated that barriers are not only for noise, but act as
retaining walls and have incorporated plants so the retaining walls are not
obtrusive. The plants could be considered a part of mitigation for aesthetics as
well as for erosion purposes. Mr. Marcin stated that there is landscaping as part
of the project. The noise walls are solid masonry walls, not intended to serve as
retaining walls to hold earth back. The retaining walls are proposed as a part of
the design. Mr. Harry Burrowes (McGill Martin Self, Inc., 310 Third Avenue, Suite
C-5, Chula Vista, CA 91910) stated that Figure 4 shows retaining walls.
Commissioner T. Thomas stated that the landscaping proposed seems mundane
and not helpful to biological species. Mr. Marcin stated there are no biological
impacts.
Commissioner T. Thomas made a recommendation to include native vegetation.
Mr. Marcin stated that the landscaping proposal includes vegetation that does not
require irrigation and that it does include native varieties.
Commissioner S. Thomas asked for comments on mitigation occurring to the
east of this project. Mr. Marcin stated he would comment if he knew what was
going on there.
Commissioner S. Thomas stated that the Olympic Parkway corridor is also Poggi
Canyon and was to be restored as mitigation with plenty of places for birds. Mr.
Claycomb stated that the recommendation incorporates native materials.
Commissioner T. Thomas asked that watering down construction sites be stated
as a requirement for future projects. Ms. Lundstedt stated that language could be
added for water requirements. Mr. Marcin stated that City requirements were
referenced.
Commissioner T. Thomas suggested that a statement be added saying the
watering should be checked everyday. Mr. Claycomb stated that he thought the
City would be able to include a specific monitoring requirement.
Mr. Marcin questioned if there was a City mechanism in place for construction
inspection. Ms. Lundstedt replied that a construction manager is on-site and can
be notified.
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Mr. Claycomb stated that it could not be called a mitigation measure because a
significant environmental impact has not been identified. He suggested the
Commission make a recommendation to include monitoring as part of the
construction contract.
Vice-Chair Bull asked if a recommendation was being made to include monitoring
for dust. Mr. Marcin suggested that language be added. Mr. Claycomb suggested
adding: "in addition to the City standards that require these measures, monitoring
will also be included in the construction contract".
Commissioner Diaz asked if the burden was being put on the City to monitor
instead of the contractor. Mr. Marcin stated that the document would include a
measure in the construction contract requiring the contractor to monitor per City
standards for dust control.
Commissioner T. Thomas stated that there were problems with drainage when
developing the Olympic Training Center. Mr. Marcin stated that drainage impacts
are referenced in the study and the project will comply with the National Pollutant
Discharge Elimination System construction permit required for this type of
activity.
Commissioner S. Thomas stated that a strong water pollution prevention plan
has to be prepared before the project can be constructed and needs to contain
all mitigation measures that will prevent pollutants from getting in the
groundwater. A typical "Best Management Practices" (BMP) would be that all
hazardous materials, in the event of a spill, are in a containment area. Ms.
Lundstedt stated that page 26 has a paragraph that talks about "Best
Management Practices".
Mr. Claycomb stated that a portion of the Initial Study text could possibly be
moved to expand the description of mitigation measures. Mr. Marcin stated that
page 21 gives a description of the things that are used for sediment trapping.
There does exist permit requirements that have to be in compliance by State law.
Commissioner T. Thomas asked that a few specific things be included. Ms.
Lundstedt stated that permit requirements are standard conditions levied by the
State and are generally not mitigation measures. Mr. Claycomb stated that
specific mitigation measures would be expanded further.
Commissioner S. Thomas asked about property on the northeast corner of
Brandywine and Olympic Parkway. Vice-Chair Bull stated that the City had
acquired property. Mr. Marcin stated that the house would be removed. The
southernmost 30 feet of the lot will be used to accommodate the right turn lane
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and the right-of-way. The remainder of the lot will include a pedestrian trail and
possibly an interpretive exhibit. The rest will be landscaped.
Vice-Chair Bull asked what model parameters were used on the road. Mr. Mike
Komula (Pacific Noise Control) stated that the main assumptions were the
number of cars, 50 mph, 5% truck mix, and volume of approximately 42-44
thousand. One side of the wall is high and the other side low because of the
elevation at the road on the right-of-way.
Vice-Chair Bull asked how far back off the road is the nearest multi-family unit.
Mr. Komula estimated 5 feet. Mr. Burrowes stated that they had met twice with
the homeowner's association on the south side and once with the homeowner's
on the north side. The general feeling is concern with aesthetics and graffiti. Mr.
Marcin stated that the Initial Study text referenced existing City Design Manual
guidelines for visual requirements.
Vice-Chair Bull asked if a variance for a 12-foot wall was needed. Ms. Lundstedt
stated it was not necessary for a CIP project.
Vice-Chair Bull stated that it did not look like there was enough room for any
landscaping. Mr. Mattson stated that there would be about 2 feet of landscaping
behind the sidewalk and ivy creeper to mask the wall.
Vice-Chair Bull asked about noise. Mr. Komula stated that units have different
orientations and angles. but patio areas face the road.
Vice-Chair Bull asked if there was any way to avoid a 12-foot wall. Mr. Komula
stated that the wall was necessary to protect the interior and exterior of the
homes.
Mr. Marcin stated that the Initial Study and Noise Report stated that, if you
moved the wall back and up the slope, you could reduce the height and thereby
reduce the aesthetic effect.
Vice-Chair Bull felt there was a significant aesthetic impact. That seems to be the
weak point in the link. Reducing the wall height would help or change the
mitigation strategy somehow. Mr. Claycomb stated this was a City sponsored
project, and the City might be willing to move the wall back and obtain additional
right-of-way or permission to build.
Commissioner S. Thomas asked what the potential effect would be of moving the
street 2 feet further to the north? Mr. Marcin stated that it would not have a
significant effect. It would give an opportunity to plant some trees. There might be
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a visual benefit, but would not significantly affect noise impacts since the project
is in an urbanized area.
Commissioner T. Thomas asked if there was room to pull a car over in the event
it broke down. Mr. Marcin stated that there are shoulders and a bike lane. There
are also sidewalks.
Vice-Chair Bull stated he would like to see some discussion of mitigation to visual
effects. Mr. Marcin stated that there were specific guidelines required by the City,
so those things are not called out as mitigation measure. It can be done. On
page 49 and 50 there is some description of three basic references made in
terms of the kinds of things that are going into the design. All have some effect
with a 12-foot wall. There could be landscaping along the wall. The City Design
Manual is most specific to walls. The question is-do we call that out as a
mitigation measure?
Vice-Chair Bull's opinion was to call it out as a mitigation measure.
Commissioner T. Thomas concurred.
Mr. Marcin stated that it was no one's intention to mislead anyone about the wall.
Other measures, including vines and cascading types of vegetation, can be used
on large walls to help reduce the visual impact. Mr. Claycomb stated that public
review of the document has started and it has not been identified as a significant
impact. Mr. Marcin stated that specific project elements could be added, as
opposed to calling them a mitigation measure.
Ms. Lundstedt asked if it would be acceptable to add information to the project
description consistent with the design manual? Vice-Chair Bull agreed to that
approach.
Mr. Claycomb asked about modifying the project description, meaning possibly
relocating the roadway. Vice-Chair Bull stated it would depend on how the issue
should be addressed so the impact is avoided. The City's opinion on what might
mitigate the impact might be different than the people living next door, which may
increase the potential for conflict. He was not sure if moving the road was
feasible.
Mr. Marcin stated input from Engineers and City staff would be needed before it
could be included in the environmental documents.
Vice-Chair Bull agreed that a better solution would be to move the wall up the
slope and reduce the height of the wall.
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Commissioner T. Thomas suggested providing homeowners with some amenity
for their trouble because of loss of equity in their homes.
Ms. Lundstedt stated that you could not enforce a mitigation measure that is up
to the discretion of the individuals.
Mr. Marcin stated another thing pointed out in the technical report is that there
was discussion of possible use of transparent portions of the wall to provide relief
from that type of blockade.
MSC (DiazIT. Thomas) to approved staff recommendations plus
comments made by Commission members during the discussion.
Vote: (4-0-0-1) with Burrascano absent.
2. Proposal to cancel September 18, 2000 meeting due to the Boards and
Commissions Recognition Banquet and reschedule it for September 11,
2000.
MSC (T. Thomas/Diaz) to cancel the September 18, 2000 meeting
and move it to September 11, 2000. Vote: (4-0-0-1 ) with
Burrascano absent.
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW COORDINATOR'S COMMENTS: None
CHAIR COMMENTS: None
COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS: None
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 7:40 p.m. to a special meeting on
Monday, September 11, 2000, at 6:30 p.m. in Conference Room 1 of the Public
Services Building, 276 Fourth Avenue, Chula Vista, CA.
Prepared by:
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Li a Bond
Recording Secretary
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