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MINUTES OF THE SAFETY COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Thursday, March 8, 1990
7:07 p.m.
Council Chambers
Public Services Building
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Arnold, Koester, Militscher, Thomas,
Waller
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Chairman Decker (excused), Vice-Chair Braden
(unexcused)
STAFF PRESENT:
Hal Rosenberg, City Traffic Engineer; Frank Rivera,
Assistant Civil Engineer
OTHERS PRESENT:
Sergeant Tom Schaefer, Ray Morris. Also, see attached
attendance list.
Commissioner Arnold chaired the meeting.
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION I
MSUC {Militscher/Koesterj 5-0, to approve the minutes of January 11, 1990 and
February 10, 1990.
2. CONTINUED MATTERS
It was requested to staff that the Safety Commission be provided with the latest
edition of the California Vehicle Code Book.
3. NEW BUSINESS
ill Request for a two-hour parkin!! limit on the 1600 block of Maple Drive
Frank Rivera, Assistant Civil Engineer, presented staffs report. Staff received a
letter dated December 17, 1989, from the residents of the 1600 block of Maple
Drive. The residents are requesting that a permit parking area or a two-hour
parking limit be established in front of their residences. Residents do not having
parking available in front of their homes as people from the condominium complex
and their visitors park in the area.
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Commissioner Militscher asked if this were an item for the Safety Commission.
Prank Rivera responded that he believed that since residents state they do not have
a place to park and that cars are being parked too close to their driveways, it
therefore makes pulling out of their driveways more difficult. He then concluded
staffs oral report. That if vehicles are being parked for inordinate amounts of time
that residents can notify Police Department.
Commissioner Thomas asked what does staff recommend.
Mr. Rivera stated that the problem of parking for extended periods of time does
exist; however it was not as much of a problem now. That staffs recommendation
is that the Safety Commission recommend no permit or time limited parking be
established on the 1600 block of Maple Drive.
Hal Rosenberg, City Traffic Engineer, added that there is available parking but that
it may not be very convenient.
In response to a question by Commissioner Arnold regarding the parking permit
system at the Chula Vista High School area, Mr. Rivera responded that they have
had requests from neighboring streets for parking permit systems as people who do
not have permits tend to park in their areas. Mr. Rosenberg noted that a parking
permit system shifts the problem from one area to another.
Mr. Rivera commented that staff does have available to residents that do have a
problem with visibility out of their driveway the possibility of red painting a 10 foot
minimum of each side of their driveway curbs, there is no fee involved with this.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
George Roberts, 1640 Maple Drive, #73, Autumn Hills Condo Association.
Mr. Roberts stated there is adequate parking for each of the 80 units, 3 spaces each
unit, and 20 visitor parking spots. He further stated that it is true that some
residents park on the street. It is a problem of too many cars. It does create
problem at times; but he does not know solution. Since it is a public street,
certainly people living in the condo feel everybody has right to park on street.
Commissioner Waller stated that he noticed commercial type vehicles and large
trucks parking there.
Mr. Roberts responded that, not to his knowledge, anyone in the condo complex
has any type of commercial vehicle.
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Commissioner Arnold asked if it were correct that the restriction placed upon the
people parking in the visitors spots, if it is one of the tenants of the condo complex,
would have their cars towed.
Mr. Roberts responded that vehicles were towed after a certain period of time.
They are considered to be a visitor for 14 days.
Commissioner Arnold wished to know if he was correct in saying that owners can
use visitors sports.
Mr. Roberts stated that the recommendation is that they not use visitor spots.
Bill Allen, 1671 Maple Drive, Chula Vista, CA 92011.
Mr. Allen stated that the problem is the parking on the street; that residents of
Maple Drive cannot have visitor parking. He noted that nine spaces in the condo
complex are empty 90 percent of the time. The parking problem is a seasonal
problem--especialiy in the summertime. That people "store" their cars in front of
our homes. Kids trying to cross street have a problem with visibility. Some
individuals park their vehicles on Friday evening and "store" them for the weekend.
Some of the kids from the condo complex have been hit by vehicles due to lack of
visibility.
Commissioner Militscher suggested that, for example, the condos have visitors
parking on the street and make the visitors spots in the condo complex available
for residents.
Otto Jessen, 1674 Maple Drive, Chula Vista, CA 92011.
Condition is that people from condos complex can park in front of our houses but
we cannot park in their complex. He had tried twice to have cars towed after 72
hours. When police come out, he has been told that the car has to be there 72
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will be another 72 hour wait before the vehicle can be towed..
MOTION
MSUC {Militscher/Koesterj 5-0, approved, to contact condo complex to make spaces
available to residents and to red-tip driveways.
Mr. Rosenberg asked Mr. Roberts if that suggestion is reasonable and agreeable to
the homeowners and perhaps bring back the information, perhaps at the next
meeting.
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Mr. Roberts stated that he had no objective whatsoever, asking them to do that, but
that he did not know what method he could use to force them to do it. There will
be times when they will be parking on the street.
Commission Militscher stated that it was the spirit of this thing is that there be no
vacant parking spots there (the guest parking spots), what the Commission is asking
the condo residents to do--realizing that it may not be 100 percent workable--is to
use the guest spots before parking on the street.
Mr. Rosenberg stated that staff would follow up on this item and would report back
at the next meeting.
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Reauest for an all-wav stop at Eastlake Drive/Lakeshore Drive and at Eastlake
Drive/Hillside Drive
Staff received request last April from a homeowner in the Eastlake area; staff
advised the homeowner that the request for a stop at these two key intersections
would be evaluated at such time before the Eastlake Elementary School were to be
open. The elementary school is scheduled to be open sometime this month,
probably next week. Staff did complete an analysis. He showed the Commission
viewgraphs of the area under discussion. Mr. Rivera stated that one intersection
met the Warrant and the other intersection was close to meeting the Warrant, but
because the elementary school children having not been using this area--they have
been bused to other schools until such time as the elementary school opens--there
were no children walking (to be included in the count for staffs study); but now
that the school is opening, children will be using these intersections and in order to
make traffic aware of these crosswalks staff recommends the all-way stops at these
intersections.
Mr. Rosenberg added that staff took the liberty, because it felt that interpretation
was in order and we projected what we felt would be a reasonable amount of usage
and concluded that the point system, if you will, was close enough to satisfy staffs
position in recommending the all-way stops at both locations.
Commissioner Arnold asked what were the boundaries that would be included in
the school area.
Mr. Rivera stated that the school IS for the EastLake area and showed the
boundaries on a viewgraph.
Commissioner Arnold indicated that he was concerned about the intersection of
East "H" Street and Eastlake Drive.
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Mr. Rivera noted that the intersection has a stop sign and is an all-way stop
intersection. That when it connects through to the freeway sometime in the future,
it will be a signalized intersection.
Mr. George Bjornstad, 1955 Hillside Drive, Chula Vista.
Mr. Bjornstad, Principal, Eastlake Elementary School, told the Commissioners that
the boundaries the school will service are east of Corral Canyon Road which comes
down and connects with East "H" Street; then there is a natural canyon between the
lake and hence the school takes in all of the EastLake area.
Commissioner Waller stated, that as a resident of the EastLake area, he can attest
that these two (proposed) Stop signs will help slow the traffic down on the two
circles as at the present traffic really zooms.
MOTION
MSUC [Thomas/Militscher] 5-0, approved, to accept staff's position.
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Request for sie:nine: and pavement markine:s in the vicinity of Eastlake Elementarv
School
Mr. Rosenberg noted that this item is a companion to Item 3(b), and supplements
it by requesting direction to put in the pedestrian crosswalks for the all-way stop
locations.
Commissioner Waller asked if this was not already in.
Mr. Rivera respond, stating that the crosswalk at Rue Avallon, and there are
crosswalks here at Eastlake Drive/Lakeshore Drive and here at Eastlake
DrivelHillside Drive.
Commissioner Arnold noted that Commissioner Waller had comments on the speed
of vehicles as they come around the (Hillside Drive) circle and wished to know if
there were any other crosswalk areas being considered for kids to get from one side
of the street to another (from outer ring to inner ring) in order to get to the school.
Mr. Rosenberg stated that staff is working with the Police Department for the
suggested route to school. At present time staff feels this plan is adequate. Mr.
Rivera explained where the school crossing guards would be placed.
Commissioner Waller noted that the police have stepped up their surveillance of
the area and that cars are slowing down coming around the circle.
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MOTION
MSUC [Wallerrrhomas] 5-0, approved, to accept staffs recommendation to install
school crossings for Eastlake Elementary School.
Commissioner Koester asked, as a matter of clarification, what was the difference between
crosswalks painted yellow and those painted white.
Mr. Rivera informed Commission that the yellow crosswalks designate a school crossing
(and are to be within a certain distance of the school, where the school crossing guards
will be located and those have to be within the vicinity of the school; the white crosswalks
are regular pedestrian crosswalks, not near a school.
4. TRIAL TRAFFIC REGULATIONS
None on Agenda.
5. STAFF REPORTS
(a) No comments.
(b)
No comments.
(c) City Traffic Engineer's Report (Oral Presentation)
Mr. Rosenberg told the Commission that the City Council will be hearing a
recommendation by staff to approve funding for a pedestrian signal on Hilltop Drive
at the San Diego Gas & Electric Company easement, where we recently installed
a crosswalk leading to the Lorna Verde Elementary School and where there is
presently an adult crossing guard monitoring the chi]dren crossing the street.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
(a) Public Remarks - None.
(b) Commission Comments
There was a brief discussion on the subject raised by Commissioner Waller of
installing metal guardrail on Eastlake Drive.
Commissioner Thomas requested staff to comment on the status of the item relating
to Third Avenue and "F" Street in connection with double parking/no parking for
people who stop at Pacific Bell to pay bills. Staff responded that they did speak
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to the Police Department about enforcement, staff will invite a representative from
Pacific Bell to come before the Safety Commission, that staff will make a video of
the area to show to the Commission. Commissioner Thomas requested that this
matter be an object of study and brought before the Safety Commission as an
Agenda item.
Commissioner Thomas requested a status report on the Shell Oil water-runoff
problem at their car wash facility. Commission formed a subcommittee of two
[MilitscherfThomas] to look into this problem.
Commissioner Thomas invited Commission members to swearing in ceremony of the
new Chula Vista Postmaster, Richard Esslinger, next Thursday at 8:00 a.m..
Commissioner Militscher asked about the problem on "H" Street and Fifth Avenue,
the alley behind the row of buildings. He requested that the area be painted and
kept clear.
Commissioner Militscher asked about the status of road improvements in the area
of Hilltop between "H" Street and "F" Street. Staff responded that this is a c.I.P.
project. It was requested by Commission Militscher that the process be speeded
up. Mr. Rosenberg responded that the Commission could express its concern to
the City Council and that the Commission feels the situation presents a safety
hazard. The Commission could also ask the City Council to consider an assessment
district.
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WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
None.
MOTION
MSUC [Koester/Militscher] 5-0, approved, to adjourn the Safety Commission
meeting to April 12, 1990.
Safety Commission meeting was adjourned at 8:22 p.m.
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Berlin D. Bosworth, Recording Secretary
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