HomeMy WebLinkAbout1964-08-05 PC MINS SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Council Chambers - Civic Center
August 5, 1964
A special meeting for the purpose of holding the second public hearing on the
General Plan Report was held by the Planning Commission of the City of Chula Vista
on Wednesday, August 5 , 1964, in the Council Chamber, Civic Center, at 7:00 P.M. ,
with the following members present: Stevenson, Stewart, Comstock, Johnson and Guyer.
Absent: Members Willhite, Adams and City Attorney Duberg. Also present: Director
of Planning Warren and Junior Planner Lee.
The following is a transcript of the public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING: GENERAL PLAN REPORT
Chairman Virgil D. Stevenson: This represents the second public hearing in con-
nection with the General Plan, which as many of you know, is our road map, our
guide up to the year 1990. To begin with, we are going to have the Planning Director
for the City of Chula Vista give you a ''bird 's eye view'' of what is in the Plan.
If you 've not actually seen it yourself, it's available through our Planning Depart-
ment here in the City. And then we ' ll open the meeting to the floor, and anyone of
you who have comments, we' ll be most pleased to hear them.
Bruce H. Warren, Director of Planning: As the Chairman has indicated, this is the
second of two public hearings required prior to adoption of the Plan. The Commission,
after this hearing, may take action recommending adoption, or they may carry over
their decision to a later time, as they see fit. This Report which the Commission
is considering tonight contains about 100 pages , which accompanies the General Plan
Map which was presented to the City earlier this year. It is somewhat unusual for
the two to be separated but because of circumstances at the time, they were. So
the Planning Commission has adopted the actual Land Use Map at an earlier time. Their
action tonight would normally be the adoption of the Report and the two would be
forwarded on to the City Council who will hold a public hearing at a later time.
Now the Report. I 'm just going to go through this very briefly. The Planning
Commission has reviewed this many times previously and so has the public at hearings;
this has simply been expanded and consolidated to its final stage.
This Report is made up in five sections: one is ''Chula Vista Today'', which covers the
historical development, physical characteristics , population growth - simply the
background information for -the Plan. The second section related to the future growth
of Chula Vista including Chula Vista population projections , future population dis-
tributions , future age distributions in Chula Vista, and employ ment. Third section,
which is really the Chula Vista General Plan, essentially is the part that is
adopted and serves as a policy, is broken down into the goals of the Plan, principles
of the Plan as they relate to Residential , Industrial and Commercial , Tidelands,
Waterfront, Agriculture, Traffic Circulation, Public Facilities, Schools, Parks and
Recreation Areas and Public Utilities.' The fourth part of the Report discusses
carrying out the General Plan - this discusses zoning, planned community development,
subdivis ion control , capital improvement program, urban renewal and annexation programs.
The last part is the appendices which has all the background information data on
which the Plan was based. The Plan proposed for adoption is a goal for 1990 and will
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serve as a guide for future development; some future zoning, future land use will
be based upon it. It is not a hard, fast document that is inviolable in anyway.
We hope that with the adoption by the City Council , as well as the Commission, that
it will set forth the policies which the city administration will use in the future.
We ' ll talk a little bit. about the portion on the General Plan. Referring to the
goals of the Plan, they are:
(1) Improve and expand the economic base; (2) preserve and enhance the residential
quality of Chula Vista; (3) provide adequate and convenient public facilities to
serve anticipated population; (4) develop the circulation system within the City of
Chula Vista and linkages to the region and to Mexico which will be convenient,
efficient, and harmonious with an optimum pattern of land development and (5) pre-
serve and enhance the beauty of Chula Vista.
Then we go into the principal proposals of the Plan. Let me just run down these;
I think these are particularly important. Planning of the future residential
development in Chula Vista will be influenced by the following considerations:
The character and value of existing desirable neighborhoods should be maintained.
Redevelopment and rehabilitation should be employed to correct deficiencies of
blighted or deteriorating areas when they occur. Residential areas should be
planned with centrally located school and parks. Arterial traffic should be routed
around rather than through the neighborhoods. Objectionable, hazardous, dangerous
and other incompatible uses of land should be prevented from intruding upon resi-
dential neighborhoods. New concepts in the design of residential areas should be
encouraged, such as provision .of communal open space compensating for reduced lot
.sizes, and the intrtoduction of planned mixtures of dwelling types. The highest
densities should be located at the points of greatest service and accessibility
near the central district and the more important outlying commercial areas. The
most difficult topography should be developed at .the lower densities. Care should
be taken in the design of future residential areas to preserve the natural amenities
which make Chula Vista a desirable place to live.
We go on to discussion on densities , and then there is an area on commercial develop-
ment which delineates the various types of commercial development which should be
encouraged in categories: retail commercial areas, visitor-commercial areas, pro-
fessional and administrative areas, industrial development. This will require
certain modifications in our zoning ordinance we have now and also our zoning maps
in the future to help carry this out. Discussion on industry, agriculture, traffic
and circulation, public transit and public facilities , schools and into the Map
itself.
Now, as the consultant indicated in his hearing, carrying out the General Plan will
actually be more difficult, we think, then the preparation itself. Preparation
takes a great deal of time, cooperation and work on the part of the staff and the
consulting firm -we had. However, it is necessary that the Plan be accepted in some
form on which everyone can agree as much as possible so that we can expect some
cooperation and usefulness from the Plan in the future, in bringing out the develop-
ment in the City.
I think this is all the detail I will go into. The Plan has been available for cir-
culation and reading and has been presented before, as I indicated, and will be
available for those who wish prior to the hearing held by the City Council , and
unless the Commission has any questions they wish to emphasize that I haven 't touched
on. . . . .
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Stevenson: I was going to emphasize, as a matter of interest to the people, that
perhaps these areas contained in the General Map are perhaps more controversial
than others.
1 . It does seem to encourage the City to require all the developers to put in under-
ground public utilities. This will be a totally new approach for the City.
2. It recommends the extension of "H" Street to tie in with a freeway that has been
proposed behind the City and of course, and
3. It does recommend that we increase our land area in terms of parks. This isn't
exactly controversial but it does point out the fact that a city this size, we are
substantially behind the average in terms of parks and space. I think these are
three things that I wanted to bring out.
Are there any questions of Bruce before we go on? If not, we' ll consider the public hearinc
on the matter open. Many of you have perhaps attended the first public hearing on
this that we held Monday night, and perhaps also attended the public hearing that we
had on the Map itself. Now, if any of you would care to speak on any section of the
General Plan, either in favor of it or opposed to it, this is your last opportunity be-
fore this group. I might add that this will be reviewed by the City Council . There
will be a public hearing held on this before it is finally adopted. So, if there
is anyone who would care to speak on the subject, will you step forward, tell us
who you are and where you live.
Edwin Campbell , Attorney, 261 "F" Street: (representing Mr. and Mrs . Warren Hatz
who own some property on Third Avenue between "K" and "L" Streets) : I recognize
that this is rather late in the proceedings to offer any objections; however, through
no fault of anyone, Mr. and Mrs. Hatz just became aware of this proposed Plan, and
on that basis, we would . like to offer the following objections instigated to the
Report itself. Well , I know that the Plan and Map has been adopted, but insofar as
the Report relates to the zone on the west side of Third, between "K" and "L" with
the exception of the two corners , it is. my understanding that it is proposed resi-
dential zone for that area. The zone now is C-1 . The people along that street
have inevitably had the desire to keep that commercial property and it would also be
to their advantage and to the advantage of the City and to no detriment to the City,
it should remain C-1 . I recognize that this is not a zone change even by the adop-
tion of the Plan or the Map; however, I think that eventually that there will be a
further study by your Commission and the Council as to certain zone changes probably
to conform to this Plan as it is adopted; while it is not mandatory that you follow
it, but anyone following the Plan as adopted may be persuaded especially in the
immediate future where zone changes are proposed. I feel that I would like to have
you give consideration to this one particular area, between "K" and "L" which is
termed thoroughfare commercial property in the Report. Whether or not this would
be detrimental to,. by reason of the Plan, to have this remain as commercial property
while the most of Third Street is and probably will remain commercial - thoroughfare
commercial . I think there might be some protectional changes to a block or two
north of that but especially if you recognize the construction around "K" Street
just to the west. It looks like it might be quite difficult to make all of that, as
proposed by the Plan, into a practical residential zone. I would assume that any
zone change would carry a non-conforming use. Most of that area now is certainly not
conforming; it will be difficult to see why that area will be jeopardized when the
C-1 reaches back, I believe, to a distance of only 219 feet.
The following property owners have' also signed an informal petition asking that you
consider not changing or recommending any particular change as set forth in this
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language: "We the following property owners , oppose any zone change from the
present C-1".
Again, we recognize that this is not a zone change, but it might have the same effect
and of course the same argument would be properly presented when a zone change was
submitted. All of these own property on the west side of Third: Mr. Woothen, Mrs.
Robertson and Mr. Martin; and I think that covers all the property that is not now
occupied, that is, not used as commercial property with exception of Mr. Starkey
who's out of town. With your permission, I would like to submit to the secretary
this particular list and ask that you also give consideration before the final
adoption of the Report, whether or not this area should remain as commercial property.
Stevenson: Thank you very much. Any questions? Is there anyone else who would care
to speak about the Plan?
Paul Yeager, 414 "J" Street: On this .proposed Plan, Part III , the Traffic Circulation,
after reading some of the articles of some of the Members of this Council , it is
undoubtedly opposed in pushing "H" Street through. I 've made a survey, I and several
other citizens of Chula Vista, and we feel definite that "H" Street should be the
street to go through. Therefore, by putting this street through, we adopt this
area of residential property over a block of eight. . . If we continue on this plan,
the City Commission feels they are going to do, and this Body gave their permission
for a subdivider to go ahead and build his homes. The very next day you gave this
- man permission, the City engineering department started to survey "J" Street. And
if we widen out "J" Street with how some of the members of the City Council and
Commission feel towards this, we are moving over 32 blocks - these are not from "J"
and "K", but they are small blocks in between, every bit of property along that whole
street clean out to Rice Canyon. This , I feel , will be too expensive to do; we will
create a traffic problem along this street; we will have a highway with very heavy
.traffic traveling past three elementary schools. I 've heard reports , read articles
in the paper, and those people who made those statements have never .-considered in
their statements about these three elementary schools which "J" Street does go by,
plus several churches also. Now, as far as this General Plan is concerned, I think
this is a very good Plan, and I firmly am very disheartened with the citizens of
Chula Vista not coming down to these meetings to see how the City grows. I don't
know what we can do in the City to get the people, interested in their City; I don 't
know whether this Planning Commission can do something about it or not. You remember
the first night we had a meeting at Hilltop High, we had approximately 175 people.
there. Ever since that time, it 's been dwindling down.. Sure, it's the same thing
hashed over. I don't know whether it is proper for the Planning Commission here to
call on their friends and neighbors and try to get them to come down to these meetings
so that the people themselves can see what you people are trying to do. I sit up
here, stand up here, argue with you and everything, but in general I think we all agree
-on everything. But I definitely am opposed to this thinking of making "J" Street one
of the big circle streets. I think, in the long run, it will cost the City more
money to do this "J" Street project even though we do have an interchange there, or a
proposed interchange, I still feel that it will cost the City much more money and a
lot of grief, a lot of heartaches, because I for one, after this is adopted - I can't
do anything until you adopt it - I propose to have a petition signed by at least 98 %
of the people on "J" Street opposing this change from the Plan that we have. Because
if "J" Street goes through, and the people in this street are definitely for "H"
Street, because we feel that disturbing approximately 12 homes and part of the High School
property which is just a play area for the High School , is I:much more feasible than
disturbing 32 blocks of residential area.
Stevenson: Thank you.
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Vice-Chairman Stewart: Let's see, where do you live?
Yeager: 414 "J" Street.
Member Bruce Johnson: You don't object to having "J" Street extended as a secondary
thoroughfare as shown on the map?
Yeager: As it's shown on the Map, the way I looked at it, it's not widened out, but
it is a secondary street; "H" Street is not a secondary street; "H" Street is a full
width street.
Stevenson: I' think it is a four-lane street now.
Yeager: Right. "J" Street we have to go all the way down. This is where the money
is going to come in and no doubt, probably several court actions. I feel we should
stick with this Plan; I think it hashed around many, many times. Like I said, there
is no mention of the schools , high schools or elementary schools. We have to protect
our kids , whether they are going to protect themselves or not, the citizens are going
to have to protect them. The less traffic we can have on that street, the less pro-
tection they're going to need.
Stevenson: Thank you. Anything further? If not, the public hearing in this matter
is closed. Gentlemen, anything further? I think we hacked this up Monday night.
Any new thoughts come to you?
Member William Guyer: Just one comment on this General Plan - there' ll be many
changes over the years.
Member E. Alan Comstock: Just thinking, Mr. Chairman, in relation to Mr. Campbell 's
comments representing his clients, we're discussing something on Third Avenue for
1990 not 1964. 1 think that instead of today, we do not have the demand for the
commercial property along Third Avenue. It appears to be questionable that we ever
will . I 'm not speaking of zoning from a planning standpoint; I 'm speaking of it
from a fast and hard economic supply and demand law. First of all , as far as land
planning and zoning goes, we can zone the entire desert area commercial , but if we
don't have a demand for it, there isn't going to be any development or use for it at
all . I think this is something that we have to consider also in our master planning
-- again, I point out that this is for 1990 and not the next 2 or 3 years.
Stevenson: I think that is a point well taken. I 'm actually a bit surprised that
there hasn 't been more comment on the, well it 's proposed re-routing of the traffic
down Fourth in lieu of Third. If you study the map closely . . . . . this will , I assume,
take considerable traffic off of Third , probably involve lesser demand for com-
mercial on Third Avenue.
Stewart: I think so. Traffic will no longer go on Third. This was poi-rated out at
least on two of the public hearings that -we held at the school buildings.
Johnson: Mr. Chairman, I feel here tonight, we are approving the broad General Plan;
we have already approved the map itself, and I would have no reservation about voting
in favor of it bearing in mind that if there are specific items in specific areas
where further study is needed and where this Plan will be reviewed at least every
year and there should be a public hearing at that time. So that 's my viewpoint be-
fore you're ready to vote on it.
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Guyer: That is an excellent suggestion.
$omstock: If you're ready for a motion, I would be very happy to move.
Warren: You must "adopt" it.-
Stevenson: A resolution adopting it. . . .before we vote on this.
Comstock: Do we have a resolution drawn up on this?
Warren: Yes, "Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Chula Vista,
California, Adopting the General Plan Report".
Comstock: Is that all we need for the resolution? If you're ready, Mr. Chairman,
I so move.
Stevenson: Fine, do I hear a second?
Guyer: 11111 second it.
Stevenson: We have a motion and a second, any further discussion? I.'d like to
ask that the comments the other night - the minutes, etc. , will go forth to the
Council .
Warren: It's a transcript, word for word.
Stevenson: Fine. All those in favor of approving the General Plan, signify by
saying "aye". Opposed same? (The vote was unanimous) . Motion carried.
Discussion on Fredericka Manor Vaniance
Planning Director Warren asked the Commission for their opinion concerning new
developments in this request. The variance was granted by the Commission at their
!fast meeting allowing them to construct a dwelling at 240 "D" Street having approxi-
mately 900 square feet. The Commission stipulated a one-car garage must be attached.
Two facts not pointed out at the hearing were: (1) there are garage facilities on
the Manor property and (2) there is a provision in the State Fire Code requiring in
a D-2 type occupancy such as this , a minimum of 20 feet between buildings.
The Commission concurred that this matter should be held over until the next
regular meeting and requested that the Fire Marshal be present.
ADJOURNMENT
MSUC (Comstock - Guyer) Meeting adjourn to August 17, 1964.
Respectfully submitted,
Jennie M. Fulasz
Secretary