HomeMy WebLinkAbout1963-09-23 PC MINS MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
September 23 , 1963
The adjourned regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Chula Vista
was held at 7:00 P.M. on the above date in the Council Chamber at Civic Center with
the following members present: Stevenson, Stewart, Comstock, Johnson, Willhite and
Guyer. Absent: Member Adams. Also present: Planning Director, Fretz, Assistant Plan-
ner Warren, Junior Planner Lee and Principal Engineer Harshman.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Member Guyer requested that the statement he made on page 8 of the minutes of Septem-
ber 4th be changed to read:
112. Since the County ordinance allows 2 stories or 35 feet in a C-1 zone, the
height of 28 feet is not excessive.''
MSUC (Guyer - Comstock) Minutes of September 4, 1963 be approved, with the correction
suggested by Member Guyer.
REZONINGS
PUBLIC HEARING - Earl Gifford , Bill Knapp, Bill Lee
Application was read in which a request was made for a change in zone for property
located between Second Avenue, Third Avenue, Quintard and Palomar Streets. The
property is presently zoned interim R-1 . The applicants request rezoning to C-2-P
for a depth of approximately 440 feet on Third Avenue and the remaining portion of the
block to R-3. The applicants further request a reduction in building line from 25 feet
to 5 feet in the commercial areas and 15 feet in the R-3 area with 10 foot sideyards on
street frontage of corner lots.
Junior Planner Lee submitted a plot plan explaining the proposed rezoning.
This being the time and place as advertised, Chairman Stevenson opened the public
hearing.
Mrs. A. Klinovsky, 275 Quintard Street and Mrs . Edson Stewart,t,259 Quintard Street,
spoke in favor of the proposed plan, stating a small shopping center would be most
desirable in this location as it would benefit the neighborhood.
There being no further comment, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed.
Member Guyer asked about the five commercial lots. Mr. Earl Gifford, one of the sub-
dividers of the project, explained they propose to put a service station in each corner
lot of the parcel , and a small shopping center with other features , such as a clinic,
in between, making this a community service center. All entrances to this project
will be from Third Avenue; the parking will incorporate approximately three acres and
will all be in front of the buildings.
The Commission discussed the grading and Mr. Ring, the engineer, stated they plan to
put in a retaining wall near Palomar Street because the grade goes up here. To Member
Johnson's question regarding the surfacing, Mr. Ring said asphaltic surfacing was proposed.
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Mr. Gifford then spoke of the proposed R-3 development and said this would consist
of four-plexes; the lot sizes will generally be 90 x 77 feet.
Member Comstock questioned the setbacks requested and was told this figure was given
to them by the Planning Department. , Member Comstock then stated the commercial zone
proposed would create a strip zoning, which they were trying to do away with in Chula
Vista. He added though the 440 foot depth of commercial was good, the Commission
should think of controlled access from Third Avenue. Member Comstock said he doesn't
agree with the 15 foot setback as being sufficient in an R-3 zone; he favors a 25 foot
setback.
Chairman Stevenson commented that since the greater portion of this is in the County,
strip zoning will be here, whether the Commission likes it or not. Vice-Chairman
Stewart felt that since a neighborhood shopping center was being created here, what
we normally term ''strip zoning'' would not apply here.
Chairman Stevenson asked Junior Planner Lee if he had a chance to match this rezoning
with the sketch plan; Mr. Lee said he hadn 't had a chance to study this , as yet.
Vice-Chairman Stewart said he felt the Commission should very carefully study all
rezonings; but, in this case, although much of Third Avenue is abundantly commercial ,
he felt there was not an abundant commercial zoning in this area. He added the location
relating to the need should be the basis for this rezoning.
RESOLUTION NO. 280 Resolution of the Planning Commission Recommending to
(Guyer - Willhite) City Council the Change of Zone for Property at Second,
Third Avenue, Quintard and Palomar Street from Interim
R-1 to C-2-P and R-3
Further, that findings be based on the following:
1 . It constitutes good zoning practice.
2. Required for general welfare and convenience of public.
Resolution of Intention to Set a Public Hearing - Charles Hazard
Assistant Planner Warren submitted a plot plan explaining the location of this proposed
rezoning and asked that this be set for hearing.
RESOLUTION NO. 281 Resolution of Intention to Set a Public Hearing for
(Stewart - Comstock) November 4, 1963 for Rezoning from R-3 to C-1-P for That
Property Located 150 Feet East of Third Avenue on Madrona
Street
VARIANCES
ff. W. and Ora J. Blackburn
The application was read in which a request was made to construct a dwelling which will
contain approximately 990 square feet on property located at 62 Del Mar.Avenue.
Assistant Planner Warren submitted a plot plan showing the existing surrounding dwell-
ings and the square footage of each. The Commission then discussed the possible
extension of Chula Vista Street.
This being the time and place as advertised, Chairman Stevenson opened the public hearing.
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Mr. E. Blackburn, the applicant, said he and his wife would be the only ones living
here, and felt the 990 square feet was adequate for them. The quality of their house
would be comparable with adjacent houses on Chula Vista Street and Del Mar Avenue.
There being no further comment, either for or against, thehearing was declared closed.
Vice-Chairman Stewart commented that, without seeing an area map, he felt a lot of
property here would become land-locked. However, he maintained the house was compatible
in this area; he has lived nearby for a great number of years and can state this
positively.
Assistant Planner Warren stated that the land behind this lot could better be served
from Third Avenue. He added that many of the homes in this vicinity were two-bedroom
homes :thus making this one compatible with the area. Chairman Stevenson said he felt
this was the key note in this matter.
Member Willhite said the Commission must find something to base their decision on,
since this one will set a precedent. He commented that the front elevation was attrac-
tive and that, according to the staff, the houses in the general neighborhood contain
comparable square footage. He also stated that there are now some changes being
studied for the minimum floor area ordinance. The purpose of setting up the ordinance
in the first place was to maintain standards in Chula Vista. Mr. Willhite stated
further that if they approve this variance, they must do it because it would upgrade
Chula Vista.
Chairman Stevenson asked for the staff comment. Assistant Planner Warren stated the 1300
square foot ordinance was directed to large tract developments, and he felt, as far as
the floor area was concerned, variation in this area was such that no trend was establishec
here.
In answer to Chairman Stevenson's question, Mr. Blackburn said his home would be valued
at $13 ,500.00
Member Willhite commented that the residential committee on the master plan had
recommended that 1200 square feet be .the minimum for homes in Chula Vista, plus a two-
car garage.
Member Guyer said the ordinance calls for "exceptional circumstances ," and they must
find this. Vice-Chairman Stewart, however, maintained the exceptional circumstances are
to be found for the "property or the intended use thereof."
Member Johnson asked if this could be deferred for further study. Chairman Stevenson
asked Mr. Blackburn if this would present a problem to him. Mr. Blackburn answered
that it would present an inconvenience. Member Comstock reminded the Commission that
there was no opposition from any of the neighbors.
MSC (Comstock - Stewart) The request to build a dwelling containing approximately
990 square feet on 62 Del Mar Avenue be approved.
Findings be based on the following:
1 . Granting this variance is necessary for the preservation of the substantial property
right of the applicant, based on the fact that the 1300 square foot emergency
ordinance was not in effect at the time the applicants purchased this property.
2. Granting this variance will not be materially detrimental to the public welfare or
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injurious to the property or improvements in the district in which the
property is located.
3. Commission takes cognizance of the fact that the development of the 990
square foot building, as planned by the applicants, is harmonious with
the neighborhood. No objections were heard from the neighbors.
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members Comstock, Johnson, Stevenson, Willhite and Stewart
Chairman Stevenson based his "Aye" vote on the fact that the house was
compatible in this area, as cited by Vice-Chairman Stewart 's comments.
NOES: Member Guyer. His vote is based on the fact that no exceptional circum-
stances applying to the property involved were found to justify granting
the variance.
. ABSENT: Member Adams.
SUBDIVISIONS
Aletha Park - Tentative Map
Assistant Planner Warren submitted the map and explained the location of the proposed
subdivision. Mr. Warren spoke of the meeting which he had with the people concerned
with this subdivision, their attorney and the subdividers. They came up with a
solution - to extend Cedar Avenue to serve these property owners. In this way, the
subdividers would still have 20 lots and the street would be extended. Mr. Warren
submitted an overlay showing this change.
Mr. William Harshman spoke of the half cul-de-sac, saying he would rather see this
put in now, rather than a temporary cul-de=sac.
Mr. Mel Troop, speaking for the developers , said he talked to the property owners
involved and felt this was a good solution; it would give these property owners
a value they didn't have before by eliminating their land-locked pieces of property.
The subdivider will develop 20 lots within the original subdivision boundary leaving
a one foot lot at the north end of Cedar Avenue. At the same time, adjacent property
owners will appoint a trustee to act for them and will put forth the money needed to
allow the subdivider to go ahead and develop the other 5 lots. Mr. Troop added that
he felt it was very important that the 25 lots be done at the same time.
Mr. Schiff, attorney for the property owners , said he obtained a committment from
the property owners that afternoon; the area will now be fully developed so that
one will compliment the other. No problems are anticipated by the property owners.
When asked by Vice-Chairman . Stewart, Mr. William Harshman, Principal Engineer,
stated the engineering department would ask for a bond to be posted to guarantee
the installation of improvements.
Mr. Schiff commented that a cash bond, put up by the property owners , will be in
escrow to cover the cost of this improvement.
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Mr. Harshman said he recommended that a one-foot lot be provided at the north
end of Cedar Avenue and Sierra Way,
Member Comstock questioned the adjacent property owner 's parcels being divided
into 5 parcels and asked if this didn't require a subdivision map. Mr. Harshman
said this could be done as long as it was done by 5 owners.
Mr. Roy Klema, engineer for the subdividers , said the street and the five lots
could be included in their subdivision if the property owners appointed a trustee
that could act for them and sign the map. If they could not do this , then the
subdividers would dedicate the rest of the street so the City could make the
improvements.
MSUC (Willhite - Comstock) Tentative map be recommended for approval based on
the following conditions:
1 . A one-foot lot be provided at the north end of Cedar Avenue and Sierra.Way.
2, Approval be based on the revision as suggested by the Assistant Planning
Director.
. Mr. George Fretz arrived at the meeting at this time.
El Dorado Plaza - Tentative Map
Assistant Planner Warren submitted a plot plan and explained the proposed zoning.
He pointed out the R-3 zoning and said that if parking access were to be provided
from the rear of the lots, the staff would recommend a 20=foot improved alley.
The commercial zoning would extend to 440 foot depth from Third Avenue, Proposed
rear access easement to R-3 lots would be one-way.
Mr. Gifford stated that if the Commission restricted them to 20 foot alleys, it
would be a financial hardship. They are planning to spend over th,srty million
dollars on this project. One off-street parking space would be provided for each
apartment; however, no carport or garage. The rear driveways would be permanent
easements ,
Mr. George Fretz, Planning Director, stated that the City should be very careful
about R-3 developments. He added that the staff would urge the Commission to impose
larger lots and at least 20 foot alleys if rear access is used. Mr. Fretz said he
doesn 't like the idea of a permanent easement over somebody's property to be used in
backing up cars; it should be done right or not at all . He then asked the subdivider
what problems they would have if they were asked to treat this as one large parcel
and put in cul-de-sacs,
Mr. G',ifford explained they proposed to have these lots as ''package deals'' so that
they could sell them off easily. If they were to revise their plans, it would affect
them money-wise and also the delay would be detrimental .
Member Willhite stated it would be advantageous�.s, both to the subdivider and the City
to have them revise their plans and put in a cluster-clan.
Chairman Stevenson asked if there were any objections to this being held over until
the next meeting - October 7. Mr. Gifford asked that the Commission approve this
tonight and he will send in a revised map at a later date; the Commission declined.
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The Commission discussed the setbacks and Member Comstock commented that the front
yard setback of 15 feet could allow parking overhang on the sidewalks.
MSUC (Stewart - Guyer) Postpone action on the map until meeting of October 7, 1963.
. Assistant Planner Warcen explained that in arriving late, he failed to remind the
Commission to recommend approval of the rezoning involved here, but that adoption of
. the ordinance should be delayed until a final subdivision map of the area is approved.
Member Guyer stated he would amend his motion to include this provision. Member
Willhite seconded the motion; it passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS
Findings on Planning Commission Appeal of Roy A. Cook
The findings were read on the appeal of a zone change for property located at 706x,
706A, and 708 "F" Street from .M-1 to R-3 for a strip of land 61 x 706 feet.
Member Comstock suggested that a statement be inserted in the findings pertaining to
the recommendation made at the last meeting that a 'study be made of the entire area.
Planning Director Fretz commented that. the corporation yard is proposed adjacent to
this area.
Mr. Ray Halpenny, owner of a trailer park near this location, spoke of a study he made
of the area. He read excerpts from a letter he directed to the City Council . It
concerned zoning of the corporation yard site.
Member Comstock commented that the Industrial Subcommittee suggested that study be
given to a long range plan to rezone the area between Broadway and 101 from "C" Street
to Main Street in Otay; that restrictive commercial and industrial zoning be con-
sidered in these changes. Mr. Comstock pointed out that there are 450 acres of tide-
lands which are greatly restricted in use.
MSUC (Comstock - Guyer) Findings be approved, with the suggested addition, and
forwarded to the City Council .
Floyd Avenue Street Name Change
Planning Director Fretz reviewed the matter saying it was held over at the request
of the Commission in order that the Fire and Police Department could be consulted.
Mr. Fretz said he talked to both and was told it would create confusion. Based on
this , the staff would recommend that the street name not be changed.
Mrs. James Deal , 660 Floyd Avenue, summarized the situation as far as the people
living on this street were concerned. She indicated that street signs , at this inter-
section, were inadequate. The Commission discussed the street signs , and Member Com-
stock suggested that the engineering department look into this situation and put a
sign at the end of this street and another at the end of "J" Street, showing the block
numbers.
The Commission then discussed the possibility of Floyd Avenue going through to the
north. Mr. Fretz said there was no possibility of this. Member Johnson asked if it
could extend in the other direction. Mr. Fretz said this could be a possibility; how-
ever, the original layout of Halecrest did not envision this. Floyd Avenue cannot be
extended to the east because the topography descends abruptly.
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Vice-Chairman Stewart said he could sympathize with Mrs. Deal to have this name
changed; however, he wondered what they would tell the next group of people who did
not like the name of their street and asked to have it changed. He added that the
street name was put in here before any of the homes were sold.
Member Johnson asked if there was any way of getting reimbursed for the street sign,
should a new one be put in. Mrs. Deal said the neighbors would be willing to put up
the money for this.
MSC (Comstock - Stewart) Street name change be denied based on the recommendation of
the Police and Fire Departments and the lack of basic justification.
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Members Comstock, Stevenson, Guyer and Stewart
NOES: Members Johnson and Willhite
ABSENT: Member Adams
Architectural Consideration of T. V. Sign _Bonita Valley Shopping Center
Assistant Planner Warren explained that the City 's building inspector found three
signs, illegally installed, at this location. The owner was contacted and is now
asking permission to leave these signs here.
Chairman- Stevenson asked if the signs conform to the ordinance, size-wise; Mr. Lee
said they do.
Mr. Mingo, the owner of the Television store stated the neon sign in front of the
shop is the same one he had at his other location: 686 Broadway. The sign is auto-
matically controlled, turning on at sunset and off at sunrise. It was approved by the
manager of the shopping center. Mr. Mingo further asked that the 4 x 8 foot plywood
sign which he has attached to his shop be to remain. The other sign is posted
on the tree in front of the building.
MSUC (Willhite - Comstock) Approval of the neon sign of the Television Store in the
Bonita Valley Shopping Center. The other two signs must be removed.
COMMUNICATIONS
A letter from the Fire Chief was read in which he stated that a study made of the new
and large apartment buildings in the City show that little consideration was given
to access for fire fighting equipment to portions of these buildings. He asked that
an amendment to the City Code be drawn up specifying that, if in the construction of
two or more dwelling units on any one lot, the distance from the existing City curb
line to any part of the building exceeds 150 feet, a paved driveway, having a minimum
width of 16 feet, shall be provided to accommodate fire fighting equipment. The
driveway shall be located in such a manner that the maximum distance from the driveway
to any part of the building shall not exceed 150 feet. Vertical clearance shall be
10 foot minimum.
Member Comstock suggested that the 20 foot front yard setback from the garage door to
the property line be changed to 25 feet, and that an amendment be proposed for this
and heard at the same time as the driveway amendment.
Planning Director Fretz said this would be difficult to do as you would have to change
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all the setbacks 'in the City; this should really be approached from an overall new
ordinance. He added it would not be feasible to do it at this time.
Vice-Chairman Stewart commented that when you get into expensive R-3 property, the
front yard setback has to be modified a little.
Member Willhite suggested that the amendment not state that the driveway must be
approved by the Fire Chief or his authorized representative, as he was not in agree-
ment that this man should be the sole judge of who is to put in a 16-foot driveway.
Mr. Fretz commented, that as he understands it, they just want to be sure they can
get within 150 feet of the building.
Mr. Ken Lee stated that all plans for R-3 development automatically -t-e- to the Fire
Marshal : for a routine check.
RESOLUTION NO. 282 Resolution of the Planning C6m6ilasion of Their
(Stewart - Willhite) Intention to Set a Public Hearing for October 7, 1963
to Consider an Amendment to Section 33.32 of Chapter
33 of the City Code.
ADJOURNMENT
MSUC (Willhite - Guyer) Meeting adjourn sine die.
Respectfully submitted,
Jennie M. Fulasz
Secretary