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JOINT WORKSHOP OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMISSION
Public Services Building
Council Chambers
6:00 p.m. 276 Fourth Avenue
Wednesday, November 16, 2005 Chula Vista, CA
CALL TO ORDER:
Planning Commission Members Present: Madrid, Nordstrom, Tripp, Bensoussan, Felber,
Hom
Members Absent: Cortes
HAC Members Present: Martin Del Campo, Zazueta, Alabado, Chavez
Members Absent: Reese, Worth
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: No public input.
WORKSHOP TOPIC: 2005-10 Update of the Housing Element of the
City's General Plan
6:16:00 PM Mandy Mills, Housing Manager and Leilani Hines, Senior Community Development Specialist
gave an overview of the 2005-10 Update of the Housing Element as outlined in staff's report.
6:39:15 PM Commission Discussion:
6:40:02 PM Cmr. Nordstrom stated the key questions is how do we provide affordable housing and
inquired what is the practice of other jurisdictions in the country.
6:41:11 PM Mandy Mills stated it's a very complex matter and many variables come in to play; it depends on
the community, and what the needs and resources are. For example, inclusionary housing
might be applied to smaller scale projects. Currently, our trigger is 50 units or more; this trigger
could be lowered. Another example might be to require a higher percentage; instead of 10%,
they might require 15%. Additionally, they might require a lower level of affordability; right now
we're at moderate to low; other jurisdictions may be low to very low income.
6:44:28 PM Cmr. Bensoussan inquired if the figure of $63,000 for median family income comes from HUD,
and that perhaps the figures are skewed and they should reflect the most current census track,
which reflects a median income of$42,970 for zip code 91910 and $38,000 for zip code 91911.
Its important that our policies be based on real figures.
Ms. Mills stated that for definition and consistency sake, we should stick to the State median
income figures, however, we can certainly target our programs and policies to the lower end of
that median income spectrum. Currently, we target low to moderate, and we could make a shift
to target very low income.
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E �4 PM Cmr. Zazueta inquired what other jurisdictions have done to balance condo conversions to
provide low income purchasing options as well as maintaining for-rent housing options.
Ms. Mills stated that as an example that the City of EI Cajon has an over-abundance of rentals
and in order to create home-ownership, they encourage condo conversions. The opposite is
true for the City of Encinitas that has said "no" to condo conversions because they don't have
enough of a rental stock.
Ms. Mills indicated that one option would be to split the policy; for example, you could narrow it
down to a certain area of town where you could have more of a concentration of rental property.
6:51:13 PM Cmr. Alabado stated that the present housing market excludes a large population of the
workforce, i.e. public sector employees (teachers, public safety and civil servants) who cannot
afford to purchase homes at today's prices, therefore, he'd like further consideration to be given
to manufactures homes and would like to see that addressed and included as an element in the
General Plan.
6:52:10 PM Cmr. Chavez stated that if staff has not already done so, they should look at the County of San
Diego's Ten-Year Plan, which addresses affordable housing and the research they've done
would be helpful.
6:52:39 PM Cmr. Martin Del Campo inquired about the number of condo conversions currently in Chula
Vista.
Ms. Mills responded that to-date there have been 432 units that were approved and 702 units
are pending.
6:53:31 PM Public Speaking Opened.
6:54:07 PM Jackie McQuaid, spoke of the displaced mobilehome residents who many of them are on fixed
incomes of $700 per month or less, with health problems and the need to plan ahead for ways
to address the housing needs of these people before they are forced to become homeless.
6:57:59 PM Tim Burton addressed the plight of the needy and urged the policy-makers to carefully consider
their role in seeking solutions to serve the housing needs for the entire community they
represent.
7:01:27 PM Nick Aguilar focused his comments on the low, to very low-income sector of the population.
Mr. Aguilar stated he is on the board of directors for three non-profit projects and stated that the
waiting list for housing for all three projects is between 3 to 5 years.
Mr. Aguilar offered the following criteria for consideration: Low income housing should be
integrated into established neighborhoods in order to avoid creating slums or ghettos;
subsidized rental and for sale housing should be provided; seriously consider the environmental
impacts of low income housing, specifically, homelessness and ensure that Chula Vista gets its
fair share of the regional need for low income housing.
7:05:17 PM Laura Hunter, Environmental Health Coalition offered the following
� comments/recommendations:
■ Chula Vista should look into increasing their tax increment that goes into affordable housing.
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The City of Chula Vista has not met its goals in the past five years for providing low income
and very low income units.
■ Concurs with Cmr. Bensoussan's comments about the AMI figures reflecting census figures
for this'area.
■ Regarding condo conversions, the goal is to provide first-time home-ownership,
■ We need to be careful that we are not trading low-income rentals for high-income rentals
because once the unit is sold they can turn around and rent it out at market value.
■ Need to be attentive to the balance of rental units vs. condo for-sale units and you may want
to tie the number of conversions to what your rental occupancy rate is.
■ Improving the safety of the current housing stock, i.e. lead abatement
■ New housing should be constructed in safe zones (500 foot zone from freeways)
■ Building affordable housing concurrently as new development is being constructed.
7:10:55 PM Pat Aguilar, representing Crossroads II, inquired why the City isn't forcing the mobilehome park
owners to bring their parks into code compliance.
Ms. Hines responded that the City does have a Mobilehome Inspection Program and they are
actively inspecting each park in the City and are holding them accountable for issues of non-
compliance.
Ms. Aguilar, representing Crossroads II stated that the Housing Element is not a stand-alone
document, but an integral part of the General Plan Update and must be considered in light of
what the GPU is calling for in the way of displacement.
Ms. Aguilar further stated that Crossroads II is requesting the support of both Commissions for
their request that the Housing Element of the General Plan acknowledge and include an
analysis of the at least 5,000 or more people who will be displaced.if the plan is implemented as
proposed. Our request is that the Housing Element contain baseline data that includes
information on the mix of housing units that will be displaced, i.e. how many apartments,
mobilehomes, single-family homes, condos; where they are located throughout the City and
what the range of rent or market value is of those homes. The analysis should include the
various programs that are available to people who are displaced.
Ms. Bensoussan stated that since the GPU used the current Housing Element she asked for
clarification as to how the new Housing Element will be incorporated into the existing GPU? .
John Mullen responded that once the GPU is adopted, the existing Housing Element remains in
full force and effect. When the new Housing Element is adopted, it will replace the former one
in the GPU.
7:25:49 PM Michelle Rewerts stated the Housing Element update fails to address the extremely low
income bracket, which according to HUD figures is $16,000 to $24,000, but there are many who
are living on much less than this. She stated the Housing Element fails to recognize that people
who live in a trailer park prefer to live there by choice rather than apartment buildings; they have
a community and they have pets and gardens. If Broadway is too valuable of a redevelopment
area, then perhaps alternative sites for displaced mobilehome owners would be the SDG&E lot
next to the South Library. Perhaps FEMA could offer some assistance in selling at a reduced
price some of the thousands of mobilehomes that were purchased to assist Katrina victims.
Once those mobilehomes are no longer needed, perhaps they could be sold at a reduced price
in 2 to 3 years. The poor will always be among us and it behooves policy-maker to not make
their lives any more difficult by displacing them and removing housing that is affordable to them.
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7:28:53 PM Commission Comment:
7:29:17 PM Cmr. Felber offered the following comments/suggestions:
■ would like to see more at the forefront the first-time home-buyers program as part of the
policies and programs that are available;
■ maintain a good balance of rental and for-sale housing stock;
■ condo conversions is a means by which to provide opportunities for first-time homebuyers
and at more affordable prices;
■ the need to be mindful to provide adequate parking, not only for the residents that will be
living in multi-family complexes, but also provide parking for friends and families of the
residents.
7:34:01 PM Cmr. Bensoussan offered the following comments/recommendations:
■ That affordable housing should be integrated into established neighborhoods so as not to
create slums;
■ Since mobilehome parks are an integral part of the west, although they may not be
appropriate along Broadway, we need to study alternate locations to relocate them as in-fill
projects within the west;
■ We should voluntarily increase the tax increment that goes to affordable housing;
■ We should peg the rate of condo conversions to vacancy rates and have a flexible policy
that goes up and down depending vacancy rates; and
■ We should change figures of the AMI to more accurately reflect the numbers for Chula Vista
7S j PM Cmr. Madrid offered the following comments/recommendations:
■ Look at reducing the 50 unit or above requirement that triggers designating a portion to
affordable housing;
■ On condo conversions, designate a percentage to be affordable for-rent apartments;
■ Agree with doing a housing displacement analysis
■ We ought to address the extremely low-income segment of the population
■ Look for ways to have development pay a part of subsidizing relocation programs as part of
development impact fees.
■ Look at areas that we know, based on the General Plan designation, will be phased out,
identify the people and place them on awaiting list for Section 8 now, rather than later
7:43:32 PM Cmr. Hom asked for a breakdown in funding sources received by the City for affordable
housing.
Ms. Mills responded that the City receives approximately $1 million of federal funding through
the Home Program, which is a Block Grant for affordable housing. We also receive CDBG
funds, which in certain cases can be used for affordable housing, but are mostly designated for
capital improvement projects in low income areas. We receive a small Emergency Shelter Grant
in the amount of$43,000 and the money received in tax increment funding for redevelopment is
approximately $800,000.
7:45:05 PM Cmr. Nordstrom stated that the key element comes down to money. Recognizing that we have
a segment of our population to protect, we don't have the funding sources to do all of the things
we'd like to and we're dealing with a much larger social issue than we're going to be able to
resolve tonight as commissioners. Without raising taxes, we've got enough talent and expertise
to come up with creative ways to make at least some of the many good suggestions brought up
tonight, become more of a reality.
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7:46:31 PM Cmr. Tripp commented that he was disappointed to see that the participants who were in
attendance at the Stakeholders Consultation on 11/7th were more on the "need" side of the
equation instead of the "provide" side. He also inquired if we have an in-lieu fee.
Ms. Mills stated that an in-lieu fee is allowed for in the policy, however, to date, no fee has been
approved. At this point the functionality is there, but a fee structure has yet to be brought
forward and adopted.
His recommendation is that the in-lieu fee be a realistic one so that implementation and those
on the providers side can help make it happen.
7:49:48 PM Cmr. Bensoussan inquired what is the role of the consultant and could he work on finding
different sources of funding.
Ms. Hines responded that she does not believe that doing research and analysis in identifying
funding sources is part of the consultant's scope of work under the current contract. The
consultant was hired to assist staff in the preparation of the Housing Element and they are
working in conjunction with staff in developing the public participation program, in analyzing the
data and in developing the programs and policies.
7:53:53 PM David Bark, RBF Consultant gave a brief overview of qualifications and scope of work program
for the Housing Element update.
7:56:25 PM Meeting adjourned.
Submitted by Diana Vargas,
Secretary to the Planning Commission
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