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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1971/08/18 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA~ CALIFORNIA Held Wednesday - 3 p.m. August 18, 1971 A regular adjourned meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was held on the above date beginning at 3 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following Councilmen present; Councilmen Hamilton, Hyde, Hobel, Scott. Absent: Councilman Egdahl Also Present: City Manager Thomson, City Attorney Lindberg, Assistant Attorney Blick, Senior Planner Williams. REVIEW SANCOG LEGISLATION Mr. George Bailey, Director of Comprehensive Planning Organization, stated the Bill is basically the same as MR. GEORGE BAILEY originally stated with the exception of the original Bill proposing that the Regional Decision Making Body be financed by a real estate transfer tax. The County Administrative Officer and the City Manager of San Financing SANCOG Diego strongly opposed this tax and proposed a property tax as being more just. The CPO suggests a 3¢ property tax to support SANCOG. This amount is now supporting CPO. On 1974 Ballot Another change is that in the fall of 1974, SANCOG will appear on a general ballot to allow the people to de- cide whether it should be continued or not. Section 63804 It is not the intent of SANCOG to create a third level of government, but rather to provide an effective co- Goal of SANCOG ordination of existing levels in order to preserve maximum local autonomy %¢ithin the San Diego region. This is what SANCOG is endeavoring to do. Member Selection Members of the Regional Board would be appointed by the elected body and would be an elected representative of that body. 5% of vote 5% of the vote has been taken from the County and has been given to two special districts--3% to school districts; 2% to other special districts. Examination after 5 years The State Legislature will examine SANCOG after five years of operation to see if it should continue or be replaced with something else. An Alternative An alternative has been proposed, which has now gone through both houses. It would establish a Regional Decision Making Body composed of 83 members. Can you imagine reaching a decision with a body composed of 83 members, asked Mr. Bailey~ He submits, SANCOG is a better proposal. Legislators Position Wadie Deddeh, Pete Chacone and Pete Wilson support the Bill. John Stull has said he will support the Bill with the addition of the referendum to the people in 1974. Jack Schrade~s position is not known. James Mills is somewhat non-committal, but he does show some will- ingness to go along in his Bill No. 325. Clair Burgener has said if Stull supports the Bill, he will. How to implement The Bill basically says it has the power to contract decisions with other entities--County or city. SANCOG has the power to plan and make regional decisions (any activi- tie~ within the scope of the various items listed here, which affect two or more entities of general govern- ment). Mr. Hobel comments Under CPO we have no control over a staff appointed by them. Under SANCOG we would have complete control. Mr. Hyde comments I do not like the SANCOG plan because as Mr. Bailey has indicated in questioning, SANCOG does not have the p~wer ~o administer the plans it makes. The cities don't like CPO because of it's past record and because cities don't want to give up power to it. Mr. Hyde thinks we might make use of both CPO and SANCOG. SANCOG would make a decision and then utilize the staff already present at CPO to administer the decision. Motion to reaffirm position It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded by Council- of support of SANCOG man Scott, to reaffirm the Council's'support of the SANCOG legislation. The motion was passed by the following vote: AYES: Councilmen Hamilton, Hobel, Scott. Noes: Councilman Hyde. Absent: Councilman Egdahl. The Motion to be brought Mayor Hamilton directed City Attorney Lindberg to back in resolution form bring this motion back in the form of a resolution for the next regular Council meeting. TOWN COUNCILS - Senior Mr. Williams offers three basic comments on the pro- Planner Williams posal. 1. Item No.2 The staff strongly recommends against by-passing the City Planning Commission on zone changes variances and the items listed. The staff maintains Town Councils will maintain a very localized view while the City Planning Commission will maintain a broader, city-wide viewpoint and would be able to pro- vide recommendations on how any particular decision in a local area will affect the City. Both groups recom- mendations will be of value to the City Council. 2. Half-way down the page of page two regarding the process of preparing a community plan where it is proposed that a plan would be re-cycled back through the community council at a point where it had been to the Planning Commission and the Commission had recom- mended any modifications I point to now. The process is already a lengthly one. Why lenghten it, and then have the Council be req?~iredto have a 4/5 vote on it. With this, you may end up with no decision at all. 3. The staff would recommend a word change in "Develop- ment of a Community Plan" (page 4 of the proposal). It will take both groups--residents and property owners --to implement a plan. These groups must work together to prepare a plan. Mr. Jasinek's written City Manager Thomson presented the ¢ommen~ of Mr. comments Jasinek, City Director of Parks and Recreation, on the section of the proposal where it mentions recreational facilities, he notes these items should be referred to the Parks and Recreation Commission for their review rather then the Planning Department and the the Plan- ning Commission. Mr. Jasinek thinks the commission most closely related to the function should not be by- passed. Amendments to the plan Mayor Hamilton indicated that this may be amended to can be made allow other commissions to have a chance to review an item. City Attorney Lindberg said that all concerned boards and commissions and departments of the city would be making their individual input into a community plan. Mr. Williams agrees that any plan that crosses departmental lines would be a joint effort. 4/5 vote for adoption Mr. Eugene Martin stated the reason for requiring a 4/5 vote is in the event of the community council and the Planning Commission coming before the City Council with a d~sagreement that they could not resolve at the lower level. They feel that the conLmunity council should override since, if it is an effective organiza- tion, it would have the best idea of what the people there want because they will have conduced public hearings and taken all the testimony and prepared a proper case. - 2 - Error in print of proposal The proposal contained an error, which was presumedly corrected in all the copies. The first sentence of item No. 2 should read, "To review and recommend to the City Council and the City Planning Commission on the following matters." Mr. Scott's objections He objects to the 4/5 vote; also, he cannot see any reason for the direct election of these board members. This seems to be a group one step below the Planning Commission and yet they are elected. This could cause conflict if, for example, a town council had a differ- ent idea from the City Council. Some friction could result between these two councils with no recourse for a solution since the town council would not derive their power from the City Council, but rather from the people, themselves, the same base as the City Council has. If these people are elected, then all members on all boards and commissions should be elected. Mr. Martin cites La Jolla La Jolla, according to Mr. Martin, is an example of an appointed council that is very ineffective in terms of accomplishing a lot of the things they planned with Elective / Appointive the City of San Diego. With an appointive situation in Sweetwater Valley there would be no control. Being an elective situation would help stir interest in local government and would also help to create people to come up into City government and become more knowledgeable. City Attorney Lindberg I think what this group wants is a truly representative body that will be looking at their problems and can know that they have a continuing and permanent organi- zation to care for these things. And further, they want a direct voice in selecting the leadership for this group. This group will be strictly advisory, not legislative. Mr. Lindberg does think that town coun- cils, including La Jolla, are actually effective. Change term "Councilman" Perhaps the term "Councilman" is not a good term as it may be confused with City Councilmen. There is no need for a Charter change to create this group, stated Mr. Lindberg. Any community can esta- blish a town council. They can do it without the sanction or authorization of this City Council. What this group is seeking is a recognition of their group by the City Council. Mrs. William A. Spies, Jr. It has never been the intention of our group to usurp any of the City Council's authority. An error, which was published in a newspaper, about the original Bellevue Plan was "veto power." There has never been "veto power" listed in the actual ordinance. The aim of the Bonita people since 1949 has been to work out a concept to control their own destiny. Mayor Hamilton comments This document like others can have changes made to it. It the Council adopts it and later finds it is not working effectively, then it can make the necessary changes. Mr. James E. Miller This plan resulted from the desire of some members of presently of San Diego the community to annex to Chula Vista and of the County in Bonita Woods responsiness of the administration and City Council of area Chula Vista. The plan goes beyond this initial cause. The plan may be tailor-made for Bonita, but it cer- tainly may be modified to fit other communitys' needs for their adoption of such a plan. Unless there is some community or town planning concept adopted, the chances of succeeding with a large annexation are slight. Suggest by-passing City Mr. Miller would suggest leaving No. 2 (on page one of Planning Commission the proposal) as stated: "review and recommendations go directly to the City Council on the matters listed underneath that paragraph. These items, he thinks, are ones the c~mmunity council can adequately handle and can save time by not going through the City Planning Commission or department after having conformed within the a~proved concept of the "Comprehensive Community Plan.- ~3- 4/5 vote The 4/5 vote is much less than the veto power and a little more than a straight majority. That is a small edge to give on something that has been worked on for a long time of a matter that effects the entire com- munity. Mr. Hyde comments As proposed, the plan calls for a community council that would either duplicate or usurp the powers of the Planning Commission. Mr. Hyde recommends that there be no change whatsoever if a community council is created in the processing of planning items. How- ever, the community council, by ordinance, should be given copies of all information relative to planning items of concern to that community and be given rea- sona~le staff assistance to assure their say in these matters. Then during the normal hearings held by the Planning Commission, the community council should have a spokesman there to represent their position on the matter. Mr. Miller comments We are here to have the City Council change its law or ordinances to allow the community council to take over some of the functions of the City Planning Commission, with respect to given geographic areas. Mr. Hyde comments Mr. Hyde would like to see the name "council" changed to "cor~mittee'~or something similar to avoid confusion with the City Council. Someone suggested calling this group the "C6mmunity Planning Commission." CQNTINUE MEETING This meeting will be continued on Friday night in the Council Chambers. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at 5:15 p.m. to the meeting scheduled for Friday, August 20, 1971, at 7p.m. Respectfully submitted by Janet P. Marsh, Secretary to the City Council -4-