HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1972/05/10 MINUTES OF A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday - 3:00 p.m. May 10, 1972
A regular adjourned meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was
held on the above date beginning at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, Civic Center,
276 Fourth Avenue, with the following Councilmen present:
Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl
Absent: None
Also present: City Manager Thomson, City Attorney Lindberg, Assistant City
Manager Bourcier, Director of Planning Warren, Senior Planner
Williams, Associate Planner Lee
THE LIBRARY Mayor Hamilton opened the meeting by
asking for comments from both the Council
and those groups present as to what should
be done in the future in regards to the
Library.
Jerry Griffith Mr. Griffith stated he had the basic re-
536 Azalea Street sponsibility of conducting the political
aspects of the campaign and offered
several reasons that may possibly have
contributed to the loss of the Library
bond:
1. MUNICIPAL ELECTION - A special
election may have been more suc-
cessful
2. TIMING - The last installment of
property tax was due and State
and Federal taxes were due four
days later
3. STRATEGY OF CAMPAIGN - Was not as
low key as had been planned
4. MAILING REFERRING TO SECTIONS 5300
AND 5304 OF ELECTIONS CODE - This
mailing sent to registered voters
a few days before the ~lection may
have made voters apprehensive about
the Library bond
5. THE LAKE - Many people opposed the
bond issue because of the lake
6. COSTS OF REMODELING OLD LIBRARY
BUILDING - The issue was not just
the Library itself
7, ISSUE OF POST OFFICE - People tended
to think "~fhy not use the Post Office
Building?"
8. LACK OF BROAD~ GENERAL SUPPORT FROM
BUSINESS CO,UNITY - Major support
came from the library users
Overwhelming defeat Mr. Griffith stated that in view of the
overwhelming defeat the bond received,
it probably would have failed anyway --
even without opposition. Many of the
Library users do not feel a strong need
for a new facility.
Special library district In answer to Mayor Hamilton's inquiry as
to the effect of the comments that came
out during the campaign about a special
library district, Mr. Griffith stated
that he feels that the rebuttal to a
special district was appropriate and
accepted by the public, and that these
comments had the least effect of all
on the failure of the bond.
Mr. Griffith told the Council that the
Library Committee has met since the
election and the information he is pre-
senting at this meeting is a summary of
their evaluation of the election.
Campaign funds The Committee raised approximately $2,100
on behalf of the campaign, with about $400
remaining unspent. He did not seem to
think that more money would have changed
the results of the election~
Alternatives Discussion ensued as to the pros and cons
of holding a special election in the
future, the fact that the bond was
placed on the ballot so late (Mr.
Griffith believes that a bond should
be placed on the ballot a good twelve
months before an election), and the
fact that there were so many other
propositions on the ballot (Mr. Griffith
did not seem to think this effected
the outcome any).
Councilman Egdahl suggested that there
be some of kind of review of the alter-
natives that have been raised and a
concrete suggestion as to what would be
a good way to proceed in the future.
Also, what about the possibility of
a joint powers agreement with local
high school libraries? He also
asked that the Committee give some
specific suggestion as to what the
Council could do.
City Attorney Lindberg commented that
a survey was made years ago and the
library issue was at the bottom of the
list.
Ambiguity of issue There was discussion that there was a
lack of understanding by the people of
the three million dollar price tag on
the bond. Mr. Griffith stated that if
the Library bond were to be on the ballot
again, it should be the Library by
itself.
Mayor Hamilton stated that phone calls
to him from citizens indicated that
they did not want to be obligated with
the taxes of this bond and that the
economic climate was not right for the
issue.
Need for new Library The consensus of the Library Colmmittee
is that there is a definite need for
a new facility and that the post office
is not an adequate one. Ultimately, the
citizens of Chula Vista are going to have
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to decide whether or not they want a
new Library -- and it's going to have
to be a new building.
Mr. A. B. Henderson, Chairman Mr. Henderson feels there is an immediate
Board of Trustees need and there has to be an interim
solution -- perhaps a q~.anset hut for
the children's section of the library.
He does not agree that the library users
were not empathetic, but that maybe the
approach was wrong. He pointed out the
success of the personal contact at
Fredericka Manor (the only precinct car-
ried) and the lack of success of the
mailings. He is asking the Council's
help as to what can be done now.
The possibility of using the site of the
old post office for a bookmobile was
offered as an interim solution by
Councilman Scott.
Esther Heydt Mrs. Heydt agreed with Mayor Hamilton's
statement that the failure of the bond
was a reflection of the difficult
times we are going through. She felt
people would not be ready to take another
look at the bond issue until after the
November election.
Peter DeGraaf, President Mr. DeGraaf pointed out that when the
Taxpayers Association Taxpayers Association supports a bond
(for example, the Golf Course) it
passes; when the Association opposes a
bond, such as the Library, it fails.
Mayor Hamilton stated that he wished
that an organization such as the Taxpayers
Association, which seems to have such
an impact on the citizens of Chula Vista,
would make a greater appeal to these citi-
zens to become members of this organization.
Councilman Hyde questioned Mr. DeGraaf
as to the feeling of the Association for
the need for the Library, to which Mr.
DeGraaf replied that he had no knowledge
of any opposition to the idea of increased
library facilities.
Councilman Hyde commented that an effort
should be made to get organizations in
the City to support the bond.
Councilman Scott suggested that in the
future, the City staff and Council be
afforded the opportunity to explain
the propositions and respond to the
Taxpayers Association.
Ernest Arnold Mr. Arnold referred to the possibility
of an agreement with the schools for
use of library facilities. In his
observations, the patrons of the
library are mostly students and pro-
fessional people. He believes that
a branch facility or a joint powers
agreement with the schools (perhaps
after the school redistricting issue has
been voted upon) would be more desirable
than a new central facility.
Recess A recess was called at 4:12 p.m. and
the Council reconvened at 4:22 p.m. in
the Council Conference Room.
ADMINISTERING FUNDS FOR Director of Planning Warren presented
ACQUISITION OF OpEN SPACE a map of the Candlewood Subdivision,
LANDS stating that the concept of the sub-
division map was approved at the Council
meeting of May 2, 1972, but adoption
of the resolution was withheld in order
to give Council an opportunity to discuss
some of the questions of open space and
the acquisition thereof.
Councilman Hyde pointed out the two kinds
of open space: (1) open space related
to planned unit development and (2)
open space purchased through park-
land acquisition fund.
Candlewood subdivision Discussion ensued as to the lot sizes
of Mr. Shattuck's development, density,
undevelopable land that will be given
the City, cost of the undevelopable
land to the City.
Mr. J. R. Shattuck Mr. Shattuck Commented that th~ land in question
6150 Mission Gorge Road is not considered to be undevelopable
San Diego completely. He feels that a portion
of this could be developed, but that
Planning s.aid this could be open space.
He said he is giving the land to the
City at his costs and less than appraisal.
Mr. Warren commented that the grading
would be a cost that would be passed
onto the City.
Council further discussed the cost of
the land to the City.
Councilman Hyde commented on the increase
in value of Mr. Shattuck's subdivision:because
of the locale of the park.
Mr. Shattuck stated that, in his opinion,
owning a lot adjacent to a park would not
be advantageous (possibility of demonstra-
tions and other activities might exist),
but that he does realize that a lot adjacent
to a park would have open space that others
may not.
Councilman Scott suggested that the
details on the policy being discussed
should be worked out by the Planning
staff.
Use of general funds Council discussed the possibility of
for acquisition having to use general fund money to
acquire the land in question.
After further discussion on the cost
of acquiring the land, it was determined
that perhaps the staff could look into
this further.
Park Assessment District Mayor H~milton commented that something
should come back on the Park Assessment
District Ordinance immediately.
Mr. Shattuck Mr. Shattuck stated, in reference to
the "right to purchase" period, that
he would be amenable to an extension
if this would benefit the City.
Motion to refer to staff It was moved by Councilman Hobel,
seconded by Councilman Hyde and
unanimously carried that this item
be referred to staff for further
negotiations.
Kathryn Moore Mrs. Moore asked the Council how the
1134 Tobias children in Mr. Shattuck's subdivision
are going to be able to get to school.
Director of Planning Warren pointed
out routes which could be used.
IMPACT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING Councilman Hobel opened the discussion
ORGANIZATION'S PROGRAM CORE STAFF by referring to the materiil the Council
ON CHULA VISTA 1972-73 FISCAL had received previously on this matter.
BUDGET
Council discussion ensued on the do]lar
values as projected by the County
Chief Administrative Officer for the
Fiscal Year 1972-73, the Program
Core Staff Budget, and the difference
thereof.
Participation by City Councilman Hobel stated that Chula
Vista's annual participation amounts
to approximately $68,000.
It was suggested by Councilman Hobel
that the City support the Program
Core Staff §o it can be determined
just what the Comprehensive Planning
Organization is costing.
Continue to support Program ~e Council concurred that support
Core Staff Concept be given to the Program Core Staff
concept.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor H~ilton adjourned the meeting at
5:45 p.m. to the meeting scheduled for
7:00 p.m., blay 16, 1972 in the Council
Chmr, ber.
Deputy City Clerk
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