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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1972/05/22 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFOP~IA Held Monday - 3:00 p.m. ~ay 22, 1972 A regular adjourned meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was held on the above date beginning at 3:00 p.m. in the Police Auditorium, Civic Center, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following Councilmen present: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl Absent: None Also present: City Manager Thomson, City Attorney Lindberg, Assistant City Manager Bourcier, Director of Planning Warren DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL Port Commissioners present were: AND SAN DIEGO UNIFIED PORT ~iles D. Bowler, Chairman; DISTRICT ON THE CHULA VISTA Dudley D. Williams, Vice Chairman; BAYFRONT STUDY BY SEDWAY/COOKE C. R. Campbell, Secretary; Lorenz Ruehle and Harvey Furgatch. Also present: Fred Trull, Director of Planning; Dr. and Mrs. Claude Gruen, consultants; Tom Cooke, consultant. Bruce Warren Director of Planning Warren Director of Planning commented that it is hoped that the ideas brought about by this study may be openly discussed at this meeting. There seems to be some confusion as to whether or not there is a desire for an additional marine terminal. Guidance is needed so that land use options can be pursued. Dr. and Mrs. Claude Gruen Er. and Mrs. Gruen referred to meetings Consultants held previously on this subject and discussed the demand analysis studies that were made. Studies were conducted in order to look into the demands for recreational, commercial and industrial activi- ties. They discussed the land use options present in the Sedway/ Cooke report. Option A Option A devotes a major portion of the site to commercial-recreational uses, including a large hotel/motel development with related conference facilities, residential development and public park and marina facilities. Option B This Plan incorporates industrial uses, less expensive motel and restaurant facilities, including a commercial campsite, and public parks. Option C Option C allocates the major por- tion of the site to indus%rial uses while still reserving a sub- stantial portion of the immediate shoreline area for public park purposes. mr. and ~rs, Gruen reporte~ that other combinations of uses are possible, including allocation of additional lands for public park and recrea- tional purposes. Dr. Gruen commented that there would not be a shortage of indus- trial land if this particular land were to be taken out of the "industrial pool." There is a limited amount of the kind of land on which could be developed a commercial shore-recreational complex and that, in terms of long range benefits, this use would be the one with greater economic benefits. Dr. amd Mrs. Gruen indicated that developing the total complex is needed to create a "billboard image" for the City of Chula Vista. Advantages and disadvantages The advantages and disadvantages of residential development of residential development were discussed -- one disadvantage being the costs incurred (such as for schooling) by this type of development. Mrs. Gruen pointed out the ad- vantages of residential areas as being: (1) utilization by these areas of recreational and commercial facilities, (2) policing they do (day and night) by the mere existence of them and (3) they would offer a unique site for higher income rentals Councilman Hyde brought out the point that the City, in the past, took the position that the doors would not be closed to residen- tial development. Mr. Fred Trull Mr. Trull, using a map displayed Director of Planning by the Port District, pointed Unified Port District out acreage, boundaries and potential fill areas considered by the Port District and the possibility of land use for marine-oriented industrial purposes (for example, a marine terminal). Need for marine terminal Mayor Hamilton commented that he northwest corner of Area C believes there should be no marine terminal. Commissioner Campbell stated that there were no immediate plans for a marine terminal, but from the Port District's standpoint land should be set aside for marine industrial use, which may or may not be a marine terminal. - 2 - Councilman Hyde discussed the pos- sible impairment of other areas to the south if a marine terminal were to be in the plans. He ex- pressed the opinion that the City of Chula Vista does not want any further industrial development. Councilman Scott asked why the Port District appears to want this area reserved for commercial mari- time development. Port District Planning Director Trull pointed out that this was an ideal location for surface transportation and, with changing technology, there is a growing need for marine oriented activities. Commissioner Ruehl related to an earlier report that stated "with the exception of the northernmost area immediately adjoining the proposed flood control channel, major industrial development should not be promoted." Tom Cooke Mr. Cooke said there is a need for Consultant more in-depth investigation before a recommendation could be presented. There are 120 acres of land with which to work and there will be limitations if a marine terminal is created. He commented on the initial impact this area has on freeway travellers from the north. Miles Bowler, Chairman Mr. Bowler commented that in his Port District opinion too much emphasis is being placed on this area and he feels a marine terminal would be compatible with the image of the City of Chula Vista. Mayor Hamilton stressed the fact that unlike National City, Chula Vista does not want to encourage industrial development. Alternatives for marine Discussion between the Council and terminal the Port District ensued on possible alternatives for this area such as oceanographic activities, fishing fleet facilities and other marine oriented activities. Chairman Bowler asked Dr. Gruen if, in his opinion, industry with a building such as ITT would detract or destroy the image of Section C. Dr. Gruen commented that it is not being suggested that all industry is bad, but there is a fear of the kinds of facilities that would be built if this area is zoned "industrial." Commissioner Furgatch remarked that he believes that land surrounding the water should be reserved solely for water-related uses -- industry that must have water or marine type facilities that must have water. 3 Discussion ensued on the demand for a marina at this time. Further study necessary Commissioner Furgatch stated he would like to see the Port District get more information as to why this 26-acre site being discussed is so vital and analyze the indus- trial needs present. Private investment cost Councilman Hobel asked Dr. Gruen for Option A for plus or minus percentages of the $54,000,000 to $64,000,000 figures quoted in the Sedway/Cooke report for the cost of appropriate private investment of Option A. Dr. Gruen explained how these figures were arrived at and stated that it could be ten percent either way -- most likely higher -- but revenues would rise with costs. Options to plans Mr. Cooke stated that the map Sedway/Cooke had prepared allows for shifting of uses, but that there is not sufficient demand on commercial uses. Perhaps the following options could be used: (1) greater portion of land be park and recreational facilities, (2) there could be office or light industrial facilities that would not require the service facilities that would make them incompatible. There was brief discussion on the location of the proposed golf course and tennis courts. Council discussed the advantages and disadvantages of Options A, B and C. Setting an objective Mr. Cooke suggested that some objective be set, keeping in mind a fallback position if necessary. Director of Planning Warren, in summarizing the discussion, stated that he gathered no conclusion has been reached in reference to a marine terminal in Area C. Also, there is some question as to whether or not there is enough parkland oriented toward the waterfront. He believes that we should reach some conclusions as to what should be presented to the public. Perhaps the City Council and the Port District could hold separate public hearings. Commissioner Campbell commented that he liked the idea of separate hearings with representation from both groups at both hearings. Chairman Bowler commented that he would like to see several alterna- tives presented at these hearings, one of which would be the parklands. - 4 - Councilman Scott remarked that a public hearing should be set on one option at a t±me~to see what the feelings of the people might be. Councilman Hyde, referring to the most crucial problem area (the northwest corner of Area C), sug- gested that staff look into this area and come up with some options. Commissioner Furgatch stated that the Commission had not discussed in great depth the plans submitted to them, as they had just received their staff's analysis over the week-end. The Commission members have yet to discuss this amongst themselves. He also referred to the absence of two commissioners at this meeting. Mr. Furgatch believes there should be another meeting similar to this one, at which time staff could be directed to get together in some direction. He urged the City Council not to hold a public hearing unless there is some urgency. Urgency to settle Councilman Scott commented that in fairness to property owners, there is a sense of urgency. There has been a moratorium on this property for about a year. He believes the City Council should hold a public hearing in order to get public in- put as well as staff opinion; t~en, could they meet with the Port District. Ccmmissioner Williams remarked that the Port District could pursue this further. (Mayor Hamilton left the meeting at this time. Mayor Pro Tempore Hyde conducted the meeting from this point.) Councilman Hyde asked if the City was working on a time table with the consultants. Mr. Cooke stated there will be further visits by the consultants, as the discussions are in the pre- liminary stage and there is much work to be done; but, in answer to Councilman Hobel's inquiry, this is within the contractual perimeter. Commissioner Campbell reiterated his belief that hearings by the City Council and the Port District, with representation by both, would be helpful. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Pro Temp~re Hyde adjourned the meeting at 5:31 p.m. to the meeting of May 23, 1972 at 7:00 p.m. ' Deputy ~ity 'Clerk 5