HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1972/07/19 7PM MINUTES OF A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING OF T~ CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Hold Wednesday - 7:00 p.m. July 19, !972
A regular adjourned meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was
held on the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, 276 Fourth
Avenuo, Chula Vista, with the following Councilmen present:
Councilmen Scott, Hamilton, Hyde
Absent: None (Councilmen Hobel and Egdahl arrived lat~
Also present: Acting City Manager Bourcier, City Attorney Lindberg, Director
of Planning Warren, Assistant Director of Planning Williams
PUBLIC HEARING - Director of Planning Warren referred to
CONSIDERATION OF LAND the Planning Commission's recommendation
USE ALTERNATIVES FOR that Option A, as modified by the City
THE CHULA VISTA BAYFRONT Planning staff, be adopted and that
AREA AS RECO~ENDED BY THE Sedway/Cooke be directed to prepare their
PLANNING CONSULTANTS final report based upon that plan.
SEDWAY/COOKE
He stated that the City Council and
Port Commission were in agreement that
(1) large scale industrial development
would not be considered and (2) the Harsh-
lands were to be preserved. The only
real difference in opinion is ~n the
policy relating to residential develop-
ment. Although their position on resi-
dential development is not clear, they
apparently object to it, believing it
to be incompatible with existing and
proposed industrial use in this South
Bay area. At their meeting of July 11,
1972, the Port Commission seemed to sus-
tain those conclusions with the quali-
fication that the northerly (Planning
Unit C) area should be reserved for com-
patible marine-oriented industrial and
commercial use. They have also acknow-
ledged the fact that there is no longer
a need to develop waterfront with
terminal facilities. They believe the
tidelands should be filled adjacent to
those areas of private ownership abutting
the mean high tide line because they do
not believe privately owned development
should benefit directly from tidelands
held in public trust.
Mr. Warren discussed the land uses in
OpIions A, B and C, and commented on the
accessibility to the freeway in all three
plans as being good.
He added that the Planning Commission feels
there are enough marine-oriented activities
in the vicinity. He referred to the area
east of Tidelands Avenue that could be
desig~gt~d for industrial activity. The
Planning Cov~ission also feels that the
amount of open space more accessible or
usable by the public in the area should
be increased and that the area adjacent
to the freeway that appears to be unsightly
and of low ecological ~aiue could be
utilized for a golf course.
Mr. Warren, In referring to the Stanford Research
Report, said it appears to show feasibility
of long-term industrial development. It does
not show the infeasibility of the Sedway/Cooke
Option A, although it is, in his opinion, im-
plied. He mentioned three points brought out
in the report as being invalid assumptions: (1)
that the marshlands can and will be filled, (2)
that the bay is polluted and unsuitable for
swimming and (3) that residential use is pro-
posed for most of the Sante Fe property (5,000
dwelling units) instead of the 1,100 dwelling
units recommended by the consultants as a balance.
Mr. Fred Trull Mr. Trull explained that the letter signed by
Director of Planning Don Nay and presented to the Council does state
Port District the position of the Board of Port Conunissioners.
In essence~ the letter expresses the Board's
feeling that land uses other than residential
(in Planning Unit C) should be further explored
and that, in reference to the tidelands within
this area, tile Port District wishes to retain
land use options for developments in that area
which are consistent with the development pur-
poses for which the Port District was formed
and which will be compatible with the theme of
the Chula Vista bayfront proposal set forth and
described by Sedway/Cooke as Option A.
(Councilman Hobel arrived at this time.)
Mr. Tom Cooke Mr. Cooke commented that the changes as proposed
Consultant, Sedway/Cooke by the Planning Commission to put more public
parklands in Area A would be desirable and
feasible. As for the recommendation regarding
the golf course, he concurs and believes this to
be a good solution, but that more detailed work
should be done. He said the major point of
disagreement between the consultants and the
Commission is the extent of the commercial land.
He commented on the Port's position and that
Area C would be a better site for commercial
facilities; he mentioned that a light industrial
service park could be compatible in this area
as well. The more appropriate location for
commercial use would be in Area C if not feasible
for Areas G and F, then G and F would become an
expansion of residential or office services use.
htr, ~o~k~ stated that Areas A and D would be the
prime areas of attraction.
Public hearing opened This being the time and place as advertised, the
public hearing was opened.
Max Curl Mr. Curl stated he is representing the South Bay
6S60 Joenell Way Economic Commission, who, at their meeting of
Bonita July 18, 1972, passed two motions as follows:
(1) that they recommend to the Council the
industrial use of the property set forth as
industrial in Options B or C of the Sedway/Cooke
Study, and (2) that the Council consider another
existing proposed development plan by Mr. Glen
Ericson for the area further south along the
area of Western Salt Company.
Director of Planning Warren stated that the
Planning Department has been in receipt of this
plan.
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Mr. Richard Kau, President Mr. Kau referred to two recommendations made
Chula Vista Chamber by the Tidelands Task Force to present to
of Commerce the Chamber of Commerce: (1) that the
Chamber go on record in support of the
proposed plan for tourist and recreational
facilities as outlined by the Sedway/Cooke
report and amended by the Chula Vista
Planning Commission and (2) that the City
Council ask the consultants to study the
feasibility of locating the proposed ship-
building facility for National Steel and
Shipbuilding in an area which would not
take away from the development as recom-
mended in the previous recommendation.
He commented on the feasibility of a
shipyard on the tidelands, in that it would
add to the tax base and payroll of the City
of Chula Vista.
Ken Wood, Attorney Mr. Wood spoke on the proposal of National
Roark, Wood and Langlois Steel and Shipbuilding to build a facility
5694 Sweetwater Road at which super-tankers would be built. He
stated they would need approximately 15-18%
of land area. He commented on some of the
benefits to the City as being increased
employment, increased retail sales and sales
tax revenue, and expansion of the industrial
tax base. He indicated that sight and noise
pollution would be minimal.
He also spoke of the compatibility with
Options A and C and that the Company is
seriously considering adding to the design
of the facility. He discussed the possibility
of green belts, bicycle paths, construction
viewing facilities, and people movers - an
idea to be discussed with Rohr. Mr. Wood
added that he hopes that the National Steel
proposal and the factors of the Interstate
5 and Highway 54 interchanges would be taken
into consideration by the consultants.
Jack Anthony, Chief Mr. Anthony offered information on the per-
Manufacturing Engineer centage of waterfront area the facility
National Steel and Shipbuilding would take, commenting on the ~ configura-
tion of it. He stated the reason- this
proposal was not brought before the Council
at an earlier date was that his company
was not aware of the Sedway/Cooke study.
He added that the Company has been discus-
sing this with the Port District for about
two years.
Mr. Wood interjected that approximately 70%
of this plan is on Santa Fe property and
30% on Port District property.
Mr. John Murphy, Vice President When queried as to the need for this type
of Sales of facility and the feasibility of going out
National Steel and Shipbuilding for bids, when two other such facilities
are existent, Mr. Murphy commented that
the potential market in the next few~
years will be approximately eighty ships
of this size and that potential customers
for these super-tankers would be any of the
major oil companies, tie added that the two
other facilities capable of building
these tankers will not be able to meet the
growing demand.
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(Councilman Egdahl arrived at this time)
Discussion ensued ~n tl~importance to this
facility of the proposed second entrance
to the Bay.
Demand for LNG Mr. Murphy commented on the demand for
LNG (liquid natural gas) and the prices
of the vessels in which to carry it.
Those made by the Japanese might be con-
sidered comparable, pricewise, to those of
the United States; while European prices
might be lower. The need, however, in the
United States would warrant the building
of another facility.
Mr. Mood reiterated his request that details
of the National Steel and Shipbuilding
proposal be considered by staff and the
consultants.
A recess was called at 8:45 p.m. and the
meeting reconvened at 9:03 p.m.
Property owners contacted Mr. Anthony presented a cut-out of the
facility to better clarify its proposed
position on the map. He explained that
National Steel had contacted the property
owners (Port District - tidelands area,
Santa Fe - balance) to gain assurance that
if it were to desire to build a facility
in this area the availability would be
here. The*e plans were activated by (1)
the application of federal subsidies to
the builders of large tankers and (2)
overtones of pollution creating the need
for natural gas which, due to the shortage
in this country, must be imported.
Discussion ensued on other possible locations
of the facility and the work that would
have to be done to accommodate it.
Market survey Mr. Murphy stated it would take approximately
eight months to complete a market survey to
determine whether the Company should go ahead
with the outlay of over one million dollars
for a shipyard. He added that it would
take approximately two years to complete
a shipyard, but that cutting and other
such operations could be started in a year,
before the facility would be completed.
Also, he said that it would be hoped that
the life of such a facility would be indefi-
nite.
Mr. Robert Hofley Mr. Horley indicated that Santa Fe had
Manager, Industrial Development been contacted on this subject about two
and Real Estate years ago. He added that Santa Fe would
Santa Fe Land and Railway Company be willing to adjust its plans to accommo-
date a major shipyard.
Robert McGuinnes, Attorney Mr. McGuinness stated he is representing
1700 Bank of California Plaza the Santa Fe Land Improvement Company, an
San Diego affiliate of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa
Fe Railway Company.
Mr. Hofley commented that Santa Fe's analysis
of the conclusions reached in the Sedway/Cooke
study indicated that the benefits to the
community for the land use in industrial-
conunercial development were not analyzed in
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sufficient depth. He added that Stanford
Research had been engaged to make a thorough
study for Santa Fe.
Mr. Harlan Danford Mr. Danford stated that he was engaged to
Director of Land Use and study Santa. Fe-Chula Vista properties and
Recreation Economics the location of these properties for in-
Stanford Research Institute dustrial and commercial uses, not including
Menlo Park resort or convention uses. The study re-
vealed that there is a market for indus-
trial land, which until now has been
mostly in National City, and that Santa
Fe is down to "zero land" -- there is no
place to go except Chula Vista. Mr.
Danford added that there is a demand for
commercial land, the most obvious demand
being for freeway-related locations.
The demand for commercial land would not
include a regional shopping center, mainly
due to the proximity of others. He feels
this would be a poor choice. It was deter-
mined in the examination of the bayshore
property that it would be suitable for
commercial-industrial uses, that industrial
buildings could be built on it, and that land
fill costs could be zero if there is no
urgent and immediate demand for land.
Mr. Danforth went on to discuss land fill
and prep-aration, and added that it appears
that almost half of the property needs
little or no fill.
Land values The *alue of industrial park land, according
to Mr. Danford, is at least $60,000 per
net acre. There is 16.35% of land used
for streets and right-of-ways in the Santa
Fe plan which would give a value of $S0,000
per gross acre ready for use by industry.
Preparation costs should not exceed $10,000
per acre. The value of the Santa Fe land
(357 acres) as it stands today is $14.35
million. The value would appreciate each
year by about 10%.
Benefits to Chula Vista Hr. Danford offered as benefits of indus-
trial and commercial development to Chula
Vista (1) eraployment and more jobs, (2)
tax revenues and (3) tax revenues for
which more would not be paid than received.
He added that most of the shoreline could
be used for recreation.
Mr. Hofley referred to exhibits to display
how the area would look if Santa Fe were
allowed to develop it industrially. He
voiced Santa Fe's desire to develop the
property which they have purchased and
held for many years for industrial purposes.
They also feel that the economic advantages
of industrial development outweigh other
uses of the property.
Mr. McGuinness stated that it is the recom-
mendation of Santa Fe that the Stanford
Institute report be accepted. Mr. McGuinness
added that the position of Santa Fe is that
the recommendations of the Stanford Research
Institute report be accepted and that land
use alternatives of Sedway/Cooke be further
investigated, specifically those of Option A
relating to hotel-motel-conference center,
townhouse and apartment alternatives.
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He further discussed the feasibility of
Option A, and referred to Dr. Gruen's report
on the destination image this should take
on, as well as the effect industrial de-
velopment would have on this plan. Mr.
McGuinness's interpretation of what the
consultants are saying in reference to
Option A is that "the area is just large
enough and is just barely going to be a
successful project if everything happens
just right."
He noted three areas that may cause dis-
ruption as being (1) industrial land not
under the jurisdiction of the City,
(2) tidelands to the east and west not under
City jurisdiction and (3) areas to the
north and east which eeuld sprout
industrial development which may have an
adverse effect on Option A. He believes
that in view of these factors, financing
may be difficult to obtain. Points also
brought out by Mr. McGuinness, were the
effect the completion of Interstate 805
might have, due to its absorption of
traffic of the north to the border;
multiple ownership in Option ^; and the
effect of the freeway plan in its finality.
He added that these might add to hesitancy
on the part of a potential developer to
develop this land.
Further study of Option C Mr. McGuinness felt that Option C should
be further studied in the light of the
announcement made by National Steel and
Shipbuilding and the Stanford Report.
Discussion ensued on the assessed valuation
and the tax rate of the Santa Fe property.
Mr. Danforth commented that land Woul~ be
assessed at market value of the highest
and best use at the time. He added that
not all of the industrial uses would require
waterfront. He further discussed land fill
for the a-rea, as did Mr. Hofley.
Clarification of previous Mr. Cooke offered some clarifications on the
discussion previous discussions, lie reiterated Dr.
Gruen's belief that they are not contesting
the fact that there is a need for industrial
lands in the bay front, but the question is
whether there is a demand for water-realted
industrial uses which would have a higher
claim to that land than other non-industrial
uses which are also seeking waterfront
locations. He added that Dr. Gruen's study
Abundance of undeveloped revealed that there is an abundance of
industrial land undeveloped' industrial land, so the issue
is whether or not that kind of use should
go into a bay front area which has other
options - options which will create better
benefits to the community in terms of use
of the property. He pointed out that of
additional concern is that of the natural
environment, and the destruction thereof
if industrial development does not consider
Environmental impact of the indirect costs related to destroying
industrial development the valuable ratural area. Speaking to the
$60,000 per acre figure discussed earlier,
Mr. Cooke queried what segment of the indus-
trial demand could afford to pay such a price.
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He added that all of the options shown can
add more park land. The reason for increasing
the total acreage of public land under the
industrial use option was that because of
the nature of the use, the public would
not be able to gain the recreation benefits
and access from the major portion of the
developed area. While, in contrast to the
commercial-recreational option, the uses
themselves are public in nature so there is
a whole range of possibilities and opportu-
nities to the general public in terms of
the kinds of access and recreational facilities
they can find. In terms of economics,
Option A produces returns which would allow
the financing of more park facilities than
Option C does. He added that the Santa Fe
land itself, if carefully planned or de-
veloped, can provide the kind of environment
which is necessary to make Option A feasible.
Reg Vitek, Attorney Mr. Vitek stated he was representing Mr.
Seltzer, Cap/an, Wilkins and Mrs. Samuel Vener, the owners of
and McMahon approximately 23 acres of the subject
3003 Fourth Avenue property. He added that the property was
San Diego purchased by them in anticipation of
ultimate industrial use. He also commented
on the increased property taxes Mr. and
Mrs. gener have experienced since their
purchase. ~lr. Vener feels that the best
possible use of his property would not be
existent under Option A, but rather as
industrial property. Mr. Vitek commented
on the constitutionality of implementing
the proposed Option A, citing zone changes
that would have to take place, adding that
such implementation might be considered
inverse condemnation. He asked that the
Council take this thought into considera-
tion when determining_the feasibility of
Option A.
Julius R. Jensen Mr. Jensen commented that his organization,
Economic Development Corporation composed of private industry and governmental
of San Diego representatives (including the Unified Port
District and the County of San Diego), recog-
nize the 8.3% unemployment factor today
in the Chula Vista area, and therefore
supports the use of a major portion of the
subject property for industrial purposes, as
it would increase the jobs available and
help pay for the beautification of the area.
They do concur that a smaller portion of
the area can and should be dedicated to
recreational and waterfront uses.
Reva Lynch Mrs. Lynch stated that she is speaking for
626 Date. Avenue Mrs. Jean Hermanson, President of the San
Diego South Bay Citizens League of Women
Voters. She indicated that the League is
in support of the recommended public policy
as proposed by the Sedway/Cooke study. The
League urges that more park and recreational
areas than those indicated by the Sedway/Cooke
study be considered. They also urge that there be
no major industrial development since they
favor public use of the shoreline. The League
also recommends that Tidelands Avenue be terminated
near the proposed freeway exchange and that
heavy traffic be directed along Bay Boulevard
for the benefit of the people using the
bayfront.
Mrs. W. R. Bedlams Mrs. Bedlams stated she is representing the
87 Country Club Drive Chula Vista Garden Club whose statement to
the Council relays the desire for more
parklands. She stated that the Garden
Club endorses Option A with modifications
recommended by the Planning Department.
They would like to see more public park-
lands added. They are in favor of the
preservation of the marshlands and would
like to be assured by the Port District
that there will be proper development
of the shoreline. They object to having
industry further developed in this bay
Jim Johnson Mr. Johnson referred to the recommendation
639 Wind~or Circle of the South Bay Citizens Planning Committee
that Option A as recommended by the Planning
Department and Planning Commission be
considered. He expressed a desirability
for park and recreatidnal land as well as
restaurant and motel type facilities. He
quoted the bayfront study by Mr. Quinney
as showing that 87.6% of the citizens of
the Chula Vista area want public parks and
beaches on the bayfront and that 72.7% of
the businesses want the same. He commented
on the overabundance of industrial growth
and the pollution factors.
Mayor Hamilton indicated that in the light
of the new developments brought forth at
this meeting, that staff and the consul-
tants should be directed to look into the
presentation made by National Steel and
Shipbuilding as to the accommodation of
this within the study plan.
National Steel and Shipbuilding The Council discussed the moratorium on
to meet with staff and this land and the fact that National Steel
consultmnts might meet with consultants and staff, after
which the Council would redeliberate.
Councilman Scott co~ented on the fact that
the Council was faced with two very important
meetings this date -- the Bayfront Study
and the E1 Rancho del Rey matter held
earlier in the day -- and that perhaps in
the future, suc~ meetings could be spread
Councilman Hyde moved that these two items
be set for a Council Conference as soon as
possible.
The motion died for lack of a second.
Mayor Hamilton suggested that Director of
Planning Warren report at the meeting of
July 25, 1972 on a time available to dis-
cuss the Bayfront matter further.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10:50 p.m. to
the meeting of July 25, 1972 at 7:00 p.m.
Deputy City Clerk
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