HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1972/08/02 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF TIE CITY OF CtIULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday - 3:00 p.m. August 2, 1972
An adjourned regular meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California was held
on the above date at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 276 Fourth Avenue, Chula
Vista, with the following Councilmen present:
Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Egdahl
Absent: Councilman Hyde
Also present: City Manager Thomson, Director of Parks and Recreation Hall,
Parks Superintendent Bradstreet, Recreation Superintendent Smith,
Landscape Planner Ortgiesen, Assistant Director of Planning
Williams, City Attorney Lindberg
REVIEW OF PARK DEVELOPMENT Director of Parks and Recreation Hall turned
PLANS the meeting over to other members of his
department, but stated that he would be
available for comment throughout the meeting.
Parks Superintendent Bradstreet presented a
brief history of the park development plans
leading up to the meeting. He stated that
the parks to be discussed at this meeting
would be Hilltop Park, Norman Park Center,
Halecrest Park, Memorial Park, Rohr Park
(lower portion) and General Roca Park; those
to be discussed at a later date would be
Elmhurst Park, Southwestern College, Garden
Park, San Diego Gas and Electric Company
right-of-way at Loma Verde and Palomar Parks
and Greg Rogers Park.
Priorities The priorities of the parks being presented
at this meeting are as follows:
Hilltop Park (Phase 1 and 2)
Norman Park
Halecrest Park
Memorial Park
Rohr Park
General Roca Park
Assistant Director of Planning Williams com-
mented on the relationship to the General
Plan that the park development would have.
HILLTOP-TELEGRAPH CANYON PARK Mr. Ortgiesen presented a rendering of the
proposed park, explaining acreage (10.9),
boundaries, design of the park and the types
of facilities in the park created to serve
the majority age group of patrons (eight to
fifteen years of age). The proposed plan
calls for a teen center, "adventure play-
ground," meadow area, restrooms, picnic areas
and small children's play area. Most of the
planting will be of nati~eplant material,
so as to keep maintenance down to a minimum;
however, there will be a couple of high
maintenance areas in the park.
Swimming pool Mayor Hamilton asked if a joint agreement
had been thought about in reference to having
a swimming pool in this park.
Director of Parks and Recreation Hall stated
that there had been some thought on the use
of the high and junior high school pools, but
that their buildings are always extremely full,
and there is also a reluctance on the park of
youth to going hack to school for recreation.
The agreement with Southwestern College for
the swimming pool was discussed, and it was
brought out that it is difficult to find a
time that does not conflict with Southwestern
activities. Mayor Hamilton stated that
this agreement should be discussed along
with the other items planned for discussion
with the College representatives.
The proposed gymnasium for this park is small,
not comp&table to a high school gymnasium.
Grading a~d construction of walkways would
be part of the first phase of the park de-
velopment plan, irrigation in the second
phase and the planting of shrubs in the third
phase. The Department of Parks and Recreation
is suggesting that the north side of the park
be developed first.
There was considerable discussion on the pro-
posed youth center, or teen center, and the
need that exists for it. Mr. Hall commented
that it could be used by senior citizens, as
well as the youth.
It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded by
Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried by
the Councilmen present that the Council
accept the recommendations and presentation
made by staff and move ahead in going out to
bid for the grading and the planning of the
area as presented.
NORMAN PARK CENTER Landscape Planner Ortgiesen presented a ren-
dering of the Center, stating that plans for
Additional improvements this facility would consist mainly of addi-
tional improvements. They want to add new
shuffleboard courts, improve the landscaping
around the park itself and also add horseshoe
pitches. This project will be in the 1972-73
Capital Improvement Program.
Mr. Ortgiesen added that they are trying to
create a more cheerful atmosphere, utilizing
flower planting areas, an added entry, sitting
areas and open areas of trees. He stated an
overhead will be added around the area of
the shuffleboard court.
Wind problems Mayor Hamilton commented on complaints re-
ceived in regards to the wind problems and
asked if these had been taken into considera-
tion. Director of Parks and Recreation Hall
stated that they were and that the wall would
be extended so the wind will be blocked off
from the shuffleboard courts.
Air conditioning Mr. Hall commented on the fact that the air
conditioning provided for the Center is not
sufficient and that the patrons of the Cen-
ter suffer from the heat. He also discussed
Satellite programs briefly the possibility of "satellite" pro-
grams in lieu of expansion of the facility,
stating that experimentation is taking place
along these lines in Loma Verde and Rohr Parks.
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Parking problems The parking problem at the Center was dis-
cussed and Mr. Hall suggested that an agree-
ment might be reached with the churches in
the area.
Motion to accept plan It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried
by those Councilmen present that the plan as
proposed by staff be accepted.
HALECREST PARK Mr. Ortgiesen, in referring to a proposed lay-
out of the park, stated that it is a neighbor-
hood park, adjacent to Halecrest Elementary
School and that this area is under a lease
agreement with the State Division of Highways.
The City will lease this land at a cost of
$100 per year, with the stipulation that there
be no run-off onto the state's property; there-
fore, 2,000 yards of fill dirt must be imported.
He added that the area is generally hilly,
the park will be mainly for neighborhood use,
about six parking spaces will be provided
and there will be access to the school.
Mr. Ortgiesen stated that the area could be
hydraseeded and that he would like to see a
conservation program started in conjunction
with the school.
He added that barbeque areas have been proposed
in the area in which the view of San Diego,
the harbor, and parts of Tijuana can be taken
advantage of. Also included in the proposed
plans are a concrete amphitheater, areas for
small children (graduated, according to types
of play activities for different age groups),
a concrete slide, tricycle area, retaining
walls made of telephone polls to preserve
naturalness of area, tunnel, and open lawn areas.
In answer to Mayor Hamilton's inquiry as to
the projec~e8 ~iming of this project, Mr. Ort-
giesen stated that he has all the plans and
specifications ready to go, and if approved,
they could be sent to Engineering as early
as the next day to go out to bid.
Motion to accept proposal It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, seconded
by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried
by those Councilmen present that the proposal
for Halecrest Park be accepted.
The Council agreed that the Parks and Recrea-
tion Department should be commended for the
quality of work and creativity they have dis-
played in regards to the park projects.
MEMORIAL PARK Mr. Ortgiesen displayed a sketch of the area
and stated that of main concern at this time
is the parking area and the eyesore it has
created. Plans to overcome this include a
fifteen foot buffer of landscaping. He added
there will be about 30 percent more parking
than at present, located at the rear portion
of the gym. Also proposed is a buffer zone
of low growing plant material in the area of
the amphitheater.
Discussion ensued on the possible upgrading
of the amphitheater. Mr. Hall added that
this had been considered and that it might
be brought hack to the Council at a later
date.
Motion to accept report It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded
by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried
h¥ those Councilmen present that the report
on M~norial Park be accepted.
There was considerable discussion on the
shuffleboard courts in this park. Recreation
Superintendent Smith commented that, after
hearing talk about the possible removal of
the courts, the people who patronize them
became quite upset. He said that this pos-
sibility is still under study.
Parks and Recreation Director Hall mentioned
that the land on which these courts are located
does not belong to the City, but rather to
the Arizona Railway Company, with whom there
has been contact. According to them, there is
not even supposed to be a structure on this land.
Parks Superintendent Bradstreet stated that this
land has been under lease since 1934. It is
an open green-City beautification lease, under
which the City is to maintain the area.
According to the agreement, there is to be no
structure, unless with the permission of the
Arizona Railway. He added that after a survey
of these courts, it was determined that very few
people use them. The Chamber of Commerce recom-
mended that they be removed, as they were an
eyesore. The past Parks and Recreation Commission
Chairman recommended to the Director of Parks
and Recreation that they be removed. Director
of Parks and Recreation Hall suggests dressing
up the area with plant material until this matter
is resolved.
ROHR PARK Park Superintendent Bradstreet stated that this
presentation is two-fold: (1) the development
of the lower portion, and (2) the bringing
back of the model railroad.
Live steamer railroad Landscape Planner Ortgiesen displayed an over-
lay on the map of Rohr Park, commenting that
a live steamer railroad is proposed to go around
the periphery of the park area. The Live Steamer
Railroad Association has all the equipment to
go ahead with the railroad. ~4r. Ortgiesen
showed the proposed route of the railroad and
discussed construction that woul~ have to take
place to accommodate it. It is believed that
children would derive a great deal of enjoyment
out of this and that it is considered to be a
safe type of operation. He added that there will
be no reduced parking areas or play areas because
of this railroad.
Director of Parks and Recreation Hall commented
on the costs of the project and the fact that
the Live Steamer Railroad Association would
furnish an insurance policy in the amount of
$300,000.
There was further discussion on the City's
liability and City Attorney Lindberg commented
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tkat the City, named as co-insured, would be
afforded protection as such.
Mr. Ace Wischtadt As to the danger of this "railroad," Mr.
Live Steamer Railroad Wischtadt stated that the trains do not move
Association very fast and the equipment operators are ex-
tremely conscientious. The stopping distance
of the trains was discussed at length. Mr.
Wischtadt commented on the safe stopping dis-
tance of the trains.
Mr. Hall stated that there is a need in this
park for a group picnic area.
Motion to accept proposal It was moved by Mayor Hamilton and seconded
by Councilman Scott that the proposal of the
Parks and Recreation Department be accepted
and that the City Attorney look into the agree-
ment between the Railraod Association and the
City to determine the liability of the City in
the event of a safety problem.
The motion passed by the following vote, to-
wit:
AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton
Noes: Councilman Egdahl
Absent: Councilman ttyde
GENERAL ROCA PARK Landscape Planner Ortgiesen, in referring to
the rendering of the Park, stated that the
plans for this park include landscaping the
area along "C" Street, installing a large
drainage ditch, expanding the parking area and
the softball diamond.
In the area with an abundance of gucalyptus trees, they
plan to provide areas for ca~rpouts for organized
groups.
Parks Superintendent Bradstreet commented that
the park is at its total usage at the present
time.
Katherine Moore Mrs. Moore asked if there will be an entrance
1134 Tobias Drive on both ends of the parking area, to which Mr.
Bradstreet answered there would be. Mrs. Moore
added that they area should be marked better
to indicate ingress and egress. ~lr. Bradstreet
commented that there are arrows marking same.
It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded by
Councilman Scott and unanimously carried that
the plan as presented be adopted.
Director of Parks and Recreation Hall co~aented
on the $8,000 left this year for park .
development, not specifically designated for
any particular area. He stated that there is
a need for an irrigation system at this park,
and perhaps the solution would lie in the appli-
cation of this money for such a system.
Children's play equipment Mr. Orgiesen presented a model of the kind of
play equipment he would like to see incorporated
in the City parks for the use of small children.
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Loma Verde Park Discussion ensued on the problem of vandalism
at Loma Verde Park and what the Parks and
Recreation Department is doing to try and
alleviate the problem until completion of
the park.
Councilman Scott commented on the fact that
the park, recreation center and school do
not blend together, due to lack of land-
scaping. Mr. Bradstreet stated that the
area had been recently hydraseeded and that
eventually the facilities would all connect
together in a smooth flow.
Mayor Hamilton thanked the staff of Parks
and Recreation for their very informative
presentation.
BAYFRONT STUDY Assistant Director of Planning Williams
stated that Mr. Warren and Mr. Trull met with
representatives of National Steel and Ship-
building Company and that National Steel
consented to prepare three site layouts which
would be ready in a week. Mr. Williams added
that a meeting to make a determination on the
Bayfront Study could be held any night this
week, but that Mr. Warren would not be available
at that time.
Motion to set date for It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded by
discussion on Bayfro~Study Councilman Egdahl and unanimously carried that
August 15, 1972 be set as the date for further
discussion on the Bayfront Study.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 5:20 p.m. to the
meeting of August 8, 1972 at 7:00 p.m.
Deputy City'Clerk
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