HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1973/01/10 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday January 10, 1973
An adjourned regular meeting was held by the City Council of Chula Vista,
California, on the above date, beginning at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Conference
Room, Civic Center, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following Councilmen present:
Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, lIyde, Egdahl
Absent: None
Also present: City Manager Thomson, Assistant City Manager Bourcier, Adminis-
trative Assistant Ratelle, City Attorney Lindberg
FILM SHOWING: "OPERATION Mr. Tom Huntington, member of the Parking
FORESIGHT" - CITY OF Place Commission, discussed the redevelop-
GRAND JUNCTION, COLORADO ment plan incorporated by the City of Grand
Junction approximately ten years ago. This
has been 100% successful, and the Parking
Place Commission feels that a similar plan
could be made of the Downtown Third Avenue
Business District. They feel the plan would
be supported by the merchants, and would
like to have the reaction of the City
Council.
Film showing A narrated film was then presented showing
the plan and construction of that business
area in the City of Grand Junction.
Santa Cruz redevelopment Councilman Hyde commented that he had an
occasion to visit the City of Santa Cruz
recently, and observed the redevelopment
of their business district in which one-way
streets were inaugurated. He suggested a
member of the Parking Place Commission visit
the city and take a look at that city's
plan.
Support of merchants Mr. Huntington remarked that the Chairman
of the Improvement District, Tomy Couch,
viewed the film along with approximately
thirty other merchants, and spoke favorably
about it. Mr. Huntington added that most
of the merchants are interested in the
plan, and this could be one chance to
"get everyone on the team."
Appraisals of parking lots In answer to the Council's questions, Mr.
Huntington stated that the money recently
appropriated by the City Council for
appraisal fees for additional parking lots
in the District should be held up for the
time being.
Task force Councilman Hyde suggested a task force be
appointed, made up by the business commu-
nity and the staff to initiate work on the
plan. The Council agreed, with the Mayor
commenting that the committee should begin
work to get the plan recognized.
City Manager Thomson stated that he would
recommend having a consultant hired to go
over the design features and the financing
of such a plan.
Motion to support plan It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded
by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that the Council go on record as being
strongly in favor of the redevelopment of
the Third Avenue Business District, and
encourage the property owners to make an
expression to the City Council as to how
they feel about it, so that the Council
can proceed either for or against it.
SENATE BILL 325 FUNDS Councilman Hobel reviewed the proposals
made to the Comprehensive Planning Organi-
zation at a public hearing on Friday,
January 5, 1973, by the San Diego Transit
Corporation and the City of Oceanside. At
the present time, the allocation of SB 325
funds for San Diego County is between
$6,000,000 and $7,000,000. San Diego
Transit is requesting $5,300,000 of this
allocation.
Agreement with cities Councilman Hobel commented that the Transit's
proposal to CPO covered the various cities
served by the bus company; however, it
should be pointed out that there is no
contractual agreement between the City of
Chula Vista and the Transit Corporation,
or with a number of other cities.
Present costs of bus It was noted that presently the City spends
operations $3,600 a year for San Diego Transit and
approximately $68,000 for Aztec Bus Lines.
City Manager Thomson noted that the SB 325
share of funds for Chula Vista this next
year, based on a population basis, weuld
be one-third of a million dollars; next
year it will be approxiamtely $500,000.
Councilman Hobel noted that the proposal
from San Diego Transit did not include
any "grandiose" plan for improving the
present services or expanding the service
in Chula Vista.
Richard Silberman Mr. Silberman explained that they based
San Diego Transit Corporation their porposal on $8.3 million, commenting
on the "cash" versus the "accrual" basis
of the funds. San Diego County's share
of SB 325 is approximately $4.25 million,
and out of this San Diego Transit is re-
questing $4.436 million, which is over
the allocated funds. Chula Vista's
share this year, based on $8.3 million, is
$415,000 and out of this, gan Diego Transit
is requesting $258,000. Mr. Silberman
noted that this would be just for providing
the existing services. The difference in
the allocation, or $160. million can be
used for additional services, mutually
agreed upon.
Aztec Bus services Mr. Silberman conunented~ that this City
could not be reimbursed for the $68,000
presently being spent on Aztec, but should
the services increase or improve, SB 325
funds could be used for that.
City Manager Thomson remarked that under
AB 958, the City would be reimbursed.
Application deadline Mr. Silberman stated that the deadline
date for filing for this year's fund was
December 31, 1972.
Councilman Hobel noted that the final
filing date was April 1, 1973.
Rapid transit ~un~ilman Scott stated he was concerned
over the great deal of money being requested
by gan Diego Transit. He noted that the
original purpose of SB 325 was for rapid
transit.
Councilman Egdahl referred to the study
undertaken by the Comprehensive Planning
Organization on rapid transit which has
been in the process now for four or five
years. He felt it would be wise to see
this study through.
Councilman Hobel discussed the recommenda-
tion of the Board of Directors of CPO that
the entire allocation of SB 325 be "frozen"
for rapid transit.
Mr. Richard Silberman Mr. Silberman romarked that his company
would not have instituted any new programs,
if SB 325 was not forthcoming. Their
ridership has increased 45%; however,
revenues are down 10% to 15%.
Mr. Silberman discussed the Aztec Bus
service, declaring that there would be
no way in which San Diego Transit can
provide this intro-bus service to Chula
Vista cheaper than Aztec now does.
In answer to Councilman Hobel's inquiry,
Mr. Silberman stated that the Transit
Company will be requesting this same sub-
stantial amount of funds for the next four
or five years.
Motion for Council position It was moved by Councilman Egdahl and
seconded by Councilman Scott that the
Council take the position of recommending
that 70% of the funds be retained (toward
rapid transit); and 30% be released.
Secondly, that the Council take no action
regarding the San Diego Transit proposal.
Discussion Councilman Hyde questioned the ratio used --
he felt there should be a more logical
way of determining what this percentage
should be, and referred to the CPO study.
Motion rescinded Councilman Egdahl stated he is rescinding
his motion in order to make ~other motion.
Motion to support CPO position It was moved by Councilman Egdahl that
the Council stand in favor of the present
CPO position - 100% of the funds in re-
No second to motion The motion died for lack of second.
Second not withdrawn on Councilman Scott stated he did not with-
first motion draw his second to the motion made by
Councilman Egdahl for the 70-30 percentage.
Mayor Hamilton stated that the motion stands
ready for the question.
Motion to support It was moved by Councilman Hyde that the
Council support a plan for release of
30% of the funds for support of the San
Diego Transit operations, unless the CPO
staff would come up with a different
ratio based upon information they have.
No second to motion The motion died for lack of second.
Motion to support rapid It was moved by Councilman Egdahl and seconded
transit allocation by Councilman Scott that the Council support
having 100% retained for rapid transit.
Discussion A discussion ensued as to whether or not
this would be realistic. Mayor Hamilton
commented that the problems with the
70-30 percentage was the fact that there
is a bus system in operation now, and
there is a question as to how long in the
future the 70% of the funds will be with-
held.
Motion withdrawn Councilman Egdahl withdrew his motion and
Councilman Scott withdrew his second.
Motion for 50% ratio It was moved by Mayor Hamilton~and seconded
by Councilman Hyde that the Council recom-
mend a 50%-50% ratio.
Motion fails on 70%-30% ratio The motion to support a 70%-30% ratio
failed by the following vote, to-wit:
Ayes: Councilmen Scott, Hobel
NOES: Mayer'Hamilton, Councilmen Hyde,
Egdahl
Absent: None
Motion carries on 50% ratio The motion to support a 50%-50% ratio
carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen tlyde,
Scott
Noes: Councilmen Hobel, Egdahl
Absent: None
Mayor Hamilton explained that this motion
would be applicable only if the CPO
recommendation "comes off the shelf."
Oceanside request Councilman Egdahl noted that oceanside'e
proposal meets SB 325 requirements whereby
San Diego Transit's does not.
Motion not to support It was moved by Councilman Scott that
proposals the Council not support either one.
No second to motion The motion died for lack of second.
Motion to support Oceanside It was moved by Councilman Egdahl and
seconded by Councilman Hobel that the
Council support the Oceanside request
and not support San Diego Transit's re-
quest because one does meet SB 325 require-
ments and the other does not.
Motion carried The motion carried by the following vote,
to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Egdahl, Hobel, Hamilton,
Hyde
Noes: Councilman Scott
Absent: None
COASTAL BOARD REPRESENTATION Councilman Scott commented on coastline pro-
tection and that Supervisor Jack Walsh, who
represented Chula Vista on the San Diego
Coastal Regional Commission, has resigned.
He felt the Council should look into litiga-
tion of the one-man, one-vote principle --
,~ disenfran~isq" because of South Bay
having no representation at this time.
City Attorney directed to look It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded
into possibility of litigation by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried
that the City Attorney be directed to look
into the possibility of it.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at
5:32 p.m. to the meeting scheduled for
~:00 p.m., Tuesday, January 16, 1973.
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