HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1973/04/04 MINUTES OF A RECESSED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday April 4, 1973
The recessed meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista, California, was held on
the above date beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, 276 Fourth Avenue,
with the following
Councilmen present: Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Manager Thomson, Deputy City Attorney Blick,
Director of Planning Peterson, Director of Public
Works Cole, Assistant Director of Public Works Robens,
Assistant City Manager Bourcier, Environmental Review
Coordinator Reid, Assistant Planner Quinney, Court
Reporter Jack Tyler, City Attorney Lindberg
The pledge of allegiance to the Flag was led by Mayor Hamilton followed by a
moment of silent prayer.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONSIDERATION Mayor Hamilton announced that the public bearing
OF AMENDMENT TO THE EL RANCHO will now be reopened and testimony will continue
DEL REY GENERAL DEVELOPMENT from those opposing the amendment.
PLAN PROPOSED FOR SPORTS WORLD
Testifying against the Speaking in opposition were:
proposal
R. G. Cooper, 604 East J Street; Josephine
Napier, 666 Gilbert Place; G. H. Harvey, 372 J
Street; Lt. Cmdr. Cary F. Wright, 242 East J
Street for Concerned Citizens of Chula Vista;
Jim Newton, 1012 Dartmouth Drive; Raquel
McDonald, 600-14 Sheffield Court speaking for
Mary Ann Parker, 600-31 Sheffield Court;
Michael T. McQuillen, 4425 Vista Nacion; Rose
Inniss, 217 East Kearney Court; Peter Watry,
gl Second Avenue; L. A. Henke, 62 Pepper Tree
Road; Ludmila Krutz, 1595-44 Mendocino Drive;
Robert Jones, 4411 Vista Coronado Drive,
Lynwood Hills; Clements Napier, 666 Gilbert
Place; Carole Smith, 275 Sea Vale; John
Frelinger, 304 Margo Court; Carol Cripps, 875
Durward Street; Shirley A. Sechler, 801 Hale-
crest Drive; J. Scott Walker, 600-55 Sheffield
Court.
Objections were as follows:
(1) opposed to arena but not development of the
rest of the land; (2) arena is not worth the
price that the people of Chula Vista will have
to pay for it; (3) 50 arenas throughout the
United States are classified as "white elephants;"
(4) J Street cannot be deleted without an amend-
ment to the General Plan - this is a safety
factor built into the Plan; (5) arena will do
irrevocable damage to the environment of Chula
Vista; (6) can't see covering up all that
beautiful land - it should be a public park;
(7) Council should consider the La Nacion fault
which runs through the proposed development; (8)
statistics were quoted as to possible arena
attendance and traffic that would be generated;
(9) traffic is the major cause of air pollution;
(10) statistic5 were quoted as to the amount of
traffic generated from shopping centers and the
eventual smog that will occur; (11) statistics
were quoted as to the noise levels;
(12) statistics were quoted as to economics -
the amount of revenue that would be realized
versus that of costs to the City.
Recess A recess was called at 8:22 p.m. and the meeting
reconvened at 8:44 p.m.
County residents Councilman Hobel noted the number of people
speaking in opposition that are not residents
of Chula Vista.
Protests continued Continuing with the protests:
(13) it would be grossly premature relative to
a market analysis to put in the shopping center;
(14) regional shopping center would require un-
limited development in the future to support it;
(15) the arena would need to be subsidized; (16)
most logical place for the arena would be Mira
Mesa or Del Mar -- it should not be in this
residential area; (17) residential proposed is
too dense; (18) the development could occur in
such a way as to require eight lanes on H Street;
(19) rather than an arena, the City should have a
smallbr convention center on the tidelands.
Recess A recess was called at 9:40 p.m. and the meeting
reconvened at 10:10 p.m.
Mayor Hamilton announced that he will give the
opposition one hour to complete their testimonies.
Continuing with the protests:
Charge of conflict of (20) Mr. Robert Jones declared that two of the
interest Councilmen have a conflict of interest: Mayor
Hamilton, since he owns a drug store on H
Street and Councilman Scott, since he sells gaso-
line - both stand to gain financially from this
project, and they should disqualify themselves.
Also, a recall should be initiated for those
Councilmen voting in favor of the proposal.
Attorney's opinion Deputy City Attorney Blick ruled that there was
no conflict of interest on the part of any of the
Councilmen as well as the Mayor in considering
this proposal.
Continuing with the protests:
(21) Council should accept the Planning staff's
recommendation which stated that the proposal
will be detrimental to the health and welfare
of the citizens; (22) Chula Vista is a quiet and
peaceful place to live - keep it that way.
Rebuttal Speaking in rebuttal to the opposition were:
Bill McClendon, 751Nolan Avenue; Bob Crane,
3723 Ciencga Drive; and Irma Morris~ 114 Third
Avenue.
Rebuttals were: (1) regarding buffer zone for
Rice Canyon -- development is occurring on all
sides "squeezing into the Rice Canyon area" and
eventually, it will all be engulfed with
developments; (2) the ticket tax and parking
tax revenues were not brought up at the Planning
Commission meetings; (3) called 65 people - 48
were for the project, 9 undecided and 8 were
against; (4) if this arena is a "white elephant"
then the question is, where are those thousands
of cars going to that will be creating the pol-
lution.
Mrs. Esther Lassman Mrs. Lassman submitted copies of a memo dated
264 Rogan Road February 9, 1973 from Bill Robens, Assistant
Director of Public Works to Doug Reid and Norman
Williams, and a memo dated March 12, 1973 from
Mr. Robens to Doug Reid, Environmental Review
Coordinator.
Mrs. Lassman noted that on the March 12 memo, the
staff made the following comment on her calcula-
tions of traffic volumes from Sports World on
roads outside the project:
"The basis for estimating or projecting these
traffic flows is shown on the attached exhi-
bit along with the numbers of trips on each
road resulting from the current proposed land
uses. Percentages shown are concurred in by
the City staff, County staff and consultant."
The February 6 memo concerns the ultimate traffic
conditions forecast for 1-805 north of H Street,
Bonita Road east of 1-805, and H Street west of
1-805.
Assistant Director of
Public Works Robens Mr. Robens explained that in the February 9 memo,
the staff confirmed certain general conunents made
by Miss Lassman last night--these were valid com-
ments and can be accepted.
As to the March 12 memo, Mr. Robens noted that the
concurrence of the staff was based on the figures
as submitted by Miss Lassman that went with the
Environmental Impact Report, which he assumed was
the same information Miss Lassman submitted in
her testimony last night. The staff reviewed them
only to note them.
Mr. Robens indicated that the County and consultant
concurrence was for staff figures done for the En-
vironmental Impact Report.
He reiterated that no one checked Miss Lassman's
figures or went over them in any detail. The in-
tent of her figures was noted, but the staff felt
the figures were not valid for the use Miss
Lassman made of them (projection of traffic into
the future).
Rebuttal against Mrs. Carole Smith, 87 F Street, stated they are
proponent's testimony not rebutting tonight "since the burden of proof
lies with the affirmative."
Dr. Leonard Bloom Dr. Bloom made the following statement:
Mailing address:
3003 Fourth Avenue "There are 'doers' and there are 'talkers'--I
San Diego believe I am a "doer'. I have instructed my con-
sultants to proceed with this project in the in-
terest of what is best for Chula Vista and its
citizens. I sincerely believe this end product
is one that will benefit everyone. The facts
that have been arrived at by the Planning Depart-
ment are facts that we basically agree with--the
conclusion we do not agree with, and it is the
reason it is a subjective conclusion--no different
than a glass of water in front of you that is half-
full or half-emply, whatever you want to call it.
Our conclusions are that we have developed a
large parcel of property under P-C zone which
provides commercial, residential, professional
and recreation, I feel that recreation is very
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badly needed for this community. I feel that it
is something that if you approve this evening
you'll be proud of, and if you look back in the
years to come, you will also agree that this is
something you will have done with the end result
of pride and with the thought that it is of
benefit to the City of Chula Vista and its
residents."
Public hearing closed There being no further comments, either for or
against, the hearing was declared closed.
Recess A recess was called at 10:54 p.m. and the meeting
reconvened at 11:17 p.m.
Testimony from County residents In answer to Councilman Hobel's query, Deputy City
Attorney Blick stated that the purpose of the
hearing was to hear all residents, regardless of
where they live; however, the testimony of a
Chula Vista resident may be considered more
heavily than that of a non-resident.
Discussion Director of Public Works Cole confirmed the
staff's recommendation that no direct access
from J Street be allowed to the arena.
Support of staff for Councilman Scott asked the Planning Director
arena the following question:
Under any circumstances, does he feel the
staff could buy the arena, by itself or any
modification of the plan?
Mr. Peterson answered that they could not, based
on a larger study referred to this evening and
last evening--this is the traffic analysis made
by the County which measured this City's
thoroughfare system proposed on the Plan against
the land uses proposed on the Plan. These are
way out of balance, and he would not recommend
any major traffic generators be approved until
this is resolved.
Economic need for shopping Councilman Egdahl asked Dr. Bloom if the regional
center shopping center was a necessary item to the
sports arena.
Dr. Bloom declared that the arena and the regional
shopping center stand on their own, but because
of costs, will have to be a part of sports world
from the standpoint of total cost of the project
and the development. The arena would be developed
first, and the shopping center after 1-805 is
completed.
Imposing conditions Councilman Hobel questioned the legality of the
Council imposing conditions of approval regarding
a time table for development.
Deputy City Attorney Blick indicated the City
could exact this from the developer.
Dr. Bloom declared that he would be willing to
allow, other than the arena and House of Ice,
any further development, or issuance of
occupancy, to be tied to the completion of 1-805.
Recreation-Commercial In answer to Councilman Scott's question, Dr.
Bloom noted the uses proposed for the recreation-
commercial areas, and the professional office use.
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Commitments for shopping Councilman Scott asked Dr. Bloom about any
center commitments he has for the regional shopping
center.
Dr. Bloom stated he has a written documentation
from a major shopping center developer who has
developed 28 regional shopping centers through-
out the country stating he is willing to sign
a lease, at this point, for the regional shopping
center. This man's commitment is tied with the
major stores.
Traffic analysis Mr. Cole and Mr. Robens commented on their
traffic study which showed that after the con-
struction of 1-805 with the full development
of Sports World, including residential, that the
road facilities proposed by the developer are
adequate and will handle the traffic. There
will be congestion at times but it will not be
serious congestion.
Uses at the arena Mayor Hamilton questioned the Council's right to
state what events will occur at the arena.
Deputy City Attorney Blick remarked that the
Council had some prerogative here, especially
in the hours of operation.
Councilman Egdahl's opinion Councilman Egdahl said he felt that four out of
the eight findings were "clouded": the lack of
harmony with the General Plan, lack of protection
for the surrounding areas; overloading of streets,
and economics in terms of what the City will
receive and what it would cost.
Motion to sustain Planning It was moved by Councilman Egdahl and seconded by
Commission recommendation Councilman Hyde that the recommendation of the
Planning Department and Commission be sustained.
Discussion Discussion of the motion followed.
Recess A recess was called at 12:10 a.m. and the
meeting reconvened at 12:22 a.m.
The Council discussed the traffic problems, the
shopping center, economic factors, massive
grading that will take place, citizens' survey
made a few years ago, and the fact that the
precise plan for the developments would have to
be approved by the Planning Commission and City
Council.
Clarification of motion Councilman Egdahl remarked that the specific
hearing being held tonight deals with the modifi-
cation under the P-C zone, and the motion is to
deny that modification, and accept the recommenda-
tion of the Planning Department and the Planning
Commission.
Councilman Hyde agreed to the second.
Councilman Mobel's opinion Councilman Hobel discussed the alternatives sug-
gested by the opponents stating there was no way
possible that the City could buy the land out
there for open space. He felt that a City that
overlooks developments will be a stagnant city,
and rather, should look ahead for broader tax
bases.
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Amended motion Councilman Hobel offered an amended motion
stating that the recommendation of the staff
be denied. He stated he was concerned about
the amount of acreage around the sports arena,
but felt the eight points have been met to
his satisfaction.
Point of order A point of order was called concerning the
motion.
Deputy City Attorney Blick asked the City Clerk
to read the modified motion made by Councilman
Egdahl and asked that the Council take action on
this motion, or have it withdrawn.
City Clerk Fulasz read the motion as made by
Councilman Egdahl, which was to deny the modi-
fication of the P-C zone and accept the recom-
mendation of the Planning Department and
Planning Commission.
Discussion of motion Mayor Hamilton read from the staff's report in
which they stated that the question of the arena
was not a land use question, but is a basic
decision which the Council has to make based on
value judgment.
Site locations Discussion followed as to the six sites which the
staff proposed to Dr. Bloom for an arena.
Mr. Peterson indicated he was aware of these
recommendations noting the one for the waterfront
area which he felt would be preferable.
City Manager Thomson explained that the sites
proposed where made under the direction of the
former Planning Director, and proposed in
general terms--it was not a blank check recom-
mendation.
Motion failed The motion to deny the modifications of the
P-C zone and accept the staff's recommendations
failed by the fo]lowing vote, to-wit:
Ayes: Councilmen Egdah], Hyde
NOES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton
Absent: None
Motion to accept proposal It was moved by Councilman Scott and seconded by
Councilman Hobel that the proposal be accepted
with the following modifications:
1. Eliminate all but 66 acres of the commercial-
recreation.
2. Eliminate all attached single-family and
apartments,
3. Eliminate strip commercial along H Street.
4. Study the remaining acreage in the E1 Rancho
del Rey P-C zone with a look toward making
all that land that hasn't been brought before
the City Council conform at least to the
concept agreed upon in the Hillside Grading
Ordinance.
Discussion of motion Discussion by the Council ensued as to density
standards for the detached residences. Council-
man Scott indicated this would be a matter of
precise planning and could be based on standards
developed after approval of the Hillside Develop-
ment Ordinance. He added he is accepting the 70
acres for the regional shopping center.
Recess A recess was called at 12:55 a .m. and the meeting
reconvened at 1:05 a.m.
Clarification of motion Councilman Scott clarified the motion stating
that the 66 acres involves 50 acres for the
arena and 16 acres for recreation-commercial;
these figures are net figures.
Statement from Dr. Bloom Dr. Bloom stated he respected the wishes of the
Council to delete the areas as stated and place
those for future study. He accepted the con-
ditions of the motion.
Resolution to be brought Councilman Scott confirmed the fact that his
back motion indicated a resolution should be brought
back at the next meeting.
Refer to Planning Commission Councilman Hyde questioned whether this would go
to the Planning Commission for a report.
Deputy City Attorney Blick stated the ordinance
does not provide for this; however, there is no
objection to refer this back as a matter of good
zoning practice.
Mr. Blick stated the motion tonight is final, but
as a formality, it would have to be phrased in the
form of a resolution. Mr. Blick asked that the
Council not delay action on the resolution that
would be back at the next meeting pending a report
of the Planning Commission, but rather, the
Planning Commission be given an opportunity to
review this.
Motion carries The motion to approve the proposal based on the
four conditions carried by the following vote,
to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Scott, i{obel, Hamilton
Noes: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl
Absent: None
PUBLIC HEARING - CONSIDERATION Mayor Hamilton stated this would be continued
OF ANNEXATION TO THE CITY OF for one week.
CHULA VISTA OF CERTAIN
UNINHABITED TERRITORY KNOWN
AND DESIGNATED AS SPORTS
WORLD PHASE I ANNEXATION
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE NO. 1459 - The California Environmental Quality Act of
ESTABLISHING ENVIRONMENTAL 1970, as amended by AB 889, required the
REVIEW PROCEDURES - FIRST Secretary of Resources to develop State guide-
READING AND ADOPTION lines for the environmental review of projects
by local agencies. The local agency must be
in conformance with these guidelines by April
S~ 1973.
Ordinance placed on first It wa5 moved by Councilman Hobel that this
reading and adoption ordinance be placed on its first reading and
be adopted and that reading of the text be
waived by unanimous consent,
The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde,
Egdahl, Scott
Noes: None
Absent: None
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UNANIMOUS CONSENT ITEM:
RESOLUTION NO. 6809 - Offered by Councilman Scott, the reading of the
URGING THE SAN DIEGO MUNICIPAL text was waived by unanimous consent, passed
JUDICIAL DISTRICT AND THE and adopted by the following vote, to-wit:
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO IN- AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton,
CREASE RATHER THAN DECREASE Hyde, Egdahl
MUNICIPAL COURT SERVICES IN THE Noes: None
SOUTH BAY COURT IN THE CITY OF Absent: None
CHULA VISTA
Mayor Hamilton announced that ali other items on the agenda are to be continued
to the meeting of April 10, 1973.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at 1:16 a.m.
to the meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 10,
1973, at 7:00 p.m.
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