HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1973/06/07 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Thursday June 7, 1973
An adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was held on the above
date beginning at 3:55 p.m. in the Council Chamber, Civic Center, 276
Fourth Avenue, with the following
Councilmen present: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Manager Thomson, City Attorney Lindberg,
Assistant City Manager Bourcier, Director of
Public Works Cole, Director of Planning Peterson,
Assistant Director of Public Works Robens,
Assistant Planner Quinney
REVIEW OF PROPOSED Dr. Leonard Bloom, the applicant, sub-
AMENDMENT TO THE mitted an outline to the Council in
EL RANCHO DEL REY which he answered the questions brought
GENERAL DEVELOPMENT up at the meeting of June 5, 1973. Also
PLAN (SPORTS WORLD) included in the outline were letters
from Charles W. Christensen, Civil En-
gineer, with comments on the proposed
changes and a detailed procedure for
development. Dr. Bloom also submitted
a letter from Gerald L. McMahon, At-
torney, Seltzer Caplan Wilkins & McMahon,
in which Mr. McMahon declared that the
Citizens Concerned for Chula Vista
charge against the City for a new En-
vironmental Impact Report was "without
merit."
Recess A recess was called at 4:07 p.m. and
the meeting reconvened at 4:16 p.m.
66 ACRES VERSUS 88 ACRES Councilman Scott questioned the staff's
OF RECREATION-COMMERCIAL requirement for the additional twenty-
two acres, and asked the Director of
Planning about splitting the acreage,
putting eleven acres on each side of
the peripheral road.
Mr. Peterson stated he had no objection
to this suggestion, and further, had no
objection to Dr. Bloom's proposal as to
the types of use for this acreage (ten-
nis, miniature golf, driving range, etc.)
Council discussion The Council discussed the site layout,
parking and street system noting that
many of these questions will be resolved
at the time the precise plan is consid-
ered.
Motion to approve It was moved by Councilman Scott and
66 acres seconded by Councilman Hobel %hat sixty-
six acres be retained for recreation-
commercial, as made in the original
motion.
Councilman Hyde asked Councilman Scott
to amend the motion to state that the
balance of the area, within the street
loop, be in open space.
Included in motion Councilman Scott remarked that this was
implied in the original motion (that
the balance of the area be landscaped)
but he would include that in this motion.
Motion carried The motion carried unanimously.
DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES Dr. Bloom submitted a new map showing
an addition of 190 units with a new mix
of densities.
Explanation of motion Councilman Scott explained his original
motion stating he did not want the pos-
sibility of having a planned unit de-
velopment density for the area which
allows a greater density than he felt
was desirable. By stating it should be
single-family detached, it connotated
a density. He is not against having a
variety of housing types, as long as it
did not increase the density.
Motion for approved It was moved by Councilman Hyde and sec-
density onded by Councilman Scott that the res-
idential density be computed on an R-1
density for the entire residential area,
as determined by the Hillside Ordinance,
as adopted. Further, that a variety of
suitable residential types be permitted.
City Attorney's opinion Mr. Lindberg asked that a figure be put
into the motion, such as: "approximately
2,000 units, or as modified by the Hill-
side Ordinance as ultimately adopted by
the City Council."
Amendment to motion Councilman Hyde amended the motion to
indicate that the residential density
be approximately 2,000 units or such
other density as the Hillside Ordinance
will permit. The variety of housing
types to be permitted.
Motion carried Councilman Scott agreed to the second
and the motion carried unanimously.
EXTENSION OF J STREET Dr. Bloom stated in his report that "so
long as there is no overpass or under-
passes required of Sports World, (Coun-
cil's) decisions about J Street were
acceptable."
Discussion of condition Item #7 of the resolution was discussed
of resolution which stated "that with the elimination
of extension of J Street, the revision
of the road pattern..."
Attorney Lindberg explained that the J
Street link will be something that the
Planning Commission and City Council
will be considering in the future when
plans come in for that area by whomever
is the property owner at that time.
The decision of the Council will then
be made taking into consideration the
developments existing in that area.
Change of wording Director of Public Works Cole suggested
changing the wording of the resolution
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to state that "with the elimination of
the connecting street from the arena
complex to J Street" instead of "elim-
ination of extension of J Street."
Move for change It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded
of wording by Councilman Hobel and unanimously car-
ried that the wording, as suggested by
the Director of Public Works, be placed
in the resolution.
NUMBER OF SEATS IN In his report, Dr. Bloom stated that
HOUSE OF ICE "an 8,000 seat House of Ice would bene-
fit the City of Chula Vista in that the
potential uses in the future could pro-
vide a valuable facility with multi-
purposes."
Director of Planning Peterson said he
checked the seating capacity of the
facility at Mira Mesa and found that it
contained 46,000 square feet with 1,800
seats. Dr. Bloom's proposed House of
Ice will be 50,000 square feet.
Dr. Bloom's statement Dr. Bloom explained that the seating in
this type of facility is arbitrary;
there are no limitations as to the num-
ber of seats, as this is determined by
the Fire Marshal. Based upon the Fire
Code, the House of Ice could accommodate
up to 18,000. Dr. Bloom added that he
would agree to the stipulation that the
facility be a maximum of 50,000 square
feet and the seating would be for a two-
year period; at that point, the Council
could use the figure it so desires as
to be an average--either 2,000 or 4,000.
Traffic problem The Council discussed the types of uses
which would be allowed in the House of
Ice during the two-year interim period.
Mr. Bill Roberts, Assistant Director of
Public Works, explained how the Engin-
eering Division arrived at the traffic
figures for the access streets, and
stated that 6,000 seats in the House of
Ice could be accommodated with some
traffic congestion.
Motion regarding It was moved by Councilman Hobel and
seating of seconded by Councilman Scott that in
House of Ice Article 6 of the resolution be incor-
porated the following: that these types
of sporting events be placed at a maxi-
mum of two years, and the maximum seat-
ing capacity be established at 6,000--
the time period to begin the date it
goes into operation.
Discussion of motion Councilman Hyde spoke against the motion
indicating the seating should be 4,000
maximum.
Lights along H Street In answer to Council's inquiry, Mr.
Robens explained that requirement for
the lights on H Street was put in at
the end of Phase 2; however, the Council
could require the installation upon re-
view of the tentative map for the
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construction of H Street between the
House of Ice and Otay Lakes Road.
Incorporated in motion Councilman Hobel stated he would in-
corporate this in his motion. Council-
man Scott agreed to the second.
Councilman Egdahl commented that most
of the sporting events would take place
on Friday and Saturday nights and this
might conflict with events taking place
at Southwestern College and the high
school as well. He asked if this traf-
fic situation was taken into considera-
tion.
Mr. Robens indicated that they did not
consider this overlap, since it was im-
possible to predict the number of times
the overlap would occur.
Councilman Scott felt this should be
looked into and, perhaps at a later
date, the Council could consider this
matter and make sure there would be no
conflict of events on those particular
nights.
Change of seating Councilman Hyde stated he would change
capacity his position to limit the seating ca-
pacity in the House of Ice to 5,000.
Amendment to motion Councilman Hobel stated he would amend
the motion to limit the seating capacity
to 5,000.
Motion carried Councilman Scott agreed to the second
and the motion carried unanimously.
QUESTION OF THE City Attorney Lindberg stated he would
ENVIRONMENTAL submit a written opinion to the Council
IMPACT REPORT prior to the next meeting. He indicated
that, at this time, he can find no rea-
son to change his original position that
an Environmental Impact Report based
upon a plan that would have had a sig-
nificantly greater impact on the envi-
ronment than that which %hey are presently
confronted with would have to be redone
when the Planning Commission, Council
and staff changed that initial plan to
mitigate the environmental impact.
Motion to wait for report It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded
by Councilman Scott and unanimously car-
ried to wait until Tuesday evening for
Mr. Lindberg's report before taking any
action on this item.
COST-REVENUE STUDY City Attorney Lindberg discussed the
issue stating that he contacted Mr.
Mocine, consultant who did the original
General Plan, and was told by Mr. Mocine
that in terms of ordinance requirement,
the Council could rely on the market
analysis made by the Otay Land Company,
as well as the judgment of the Council
and staff in their analysis of the fea-
sibility of the commercial enterprise.
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Staff's report Director of Planning Peterson explained
that he had in mind a cost-revenue study,
similar to the one his staff prepared,
and not a market analysis. Since the
plan has changed, the cost-revenue study
has changed. He would like to up-date
this study, which would take approxi-
mately one and a half weeks of staff
time.
Mr. Peterson added that this study would
be an interesting piece of information
to have now, but it is not essential to
the decisions being made tonight.
Motion for study It was moved by Councilman Scott, sec-
onded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously
carried that the staff make such a study.
Councilman Hobel asked that, in this
study, the staff consider a ticket tax.
Referred to City Manager City Manager Thomson asked that this
assignment be referred to the City
Manager since it may be the type of
thing that involves more than one de-
partment.
Councilman Scott stated he is willing
to change his motion to refer this
study to the City Manager.
Mayor Hamilton asked that a parking tax
be taken into consideration.
Motion carried Councilman Scott included this in the
motion; Councilman Hyde agreed to the
second and the motion carried by the
following vote~ to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel,
Hamilton
Noes: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl
Absent: None
Motion to bring back It was moved by Mayor Hamilton and
resolution seconded by Councilman Hyde that a for-
mal resolution be brought back at the
next meeting, as voted on by the Council
this afternoon, to be incorporated
therein.
Director of Planning Peterson asked for
at least two weeks' time to prepare his
staff report.
Councilman Hyde withdrew his second.
Substitute motion It was moved by Councilman Egdahl and
seconded by Councilman Hyde that the
staff be directed to study the plan
using the definitions that the Council
has drawn up today, and when they are
ready to come back with their recom-
mendation, the plan be brought back with
that recommendation.
Discussion of motion Councilmen Scott and Hobel spoke against
the motion because of no time certain in
the motion.
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Motion failed The motion failed by the following
vote, to-wit:
Ayes: CoUncilmen Egdahl, Hyde
NOES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel,
Hamilton
Absent: None
Motion for staff It was moved by Councilman Scott and
recommendation seconded by Councilman Hobel that the
staff's recommendation be brought back
on June 26, and at that time a proper
resolution be drawn for Council to act
on.
Motion carried The motion carried by the following
vote, to-wit:
AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel,
Hamilton
Noes: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl
Absent: None
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting
at 5:50 p.m. to the meeting scheduled
for Friday, June 8, 1973, at 7:00 p.m.
for budget deliberations.
City Clerk
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