HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1973/06/13 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday June 13, 1973
An adjourned regular meeting of the City Council of Chula Vista,
California, was held on the above date beginning at 3:30 p.m. in the
Council Chamber, Civic Center, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following
Councilmen present: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hyde, Egdahl
Councilmen absent: Mayor Hamilton
Also present: City Manager Thomson, Assistant City Manager
Bourcier, Director of Public Works Cole,
Assistant to the City Manager Wittenberg,
Administrative Aide Smith
AGREEMENT WITH BUS This matter was continued from the
COMPANIES FOR BUS meeting of June 12, 1973 so that rep-
SERVICE IN THE CITY resentatives of San Diego Transit
OF CHULA VISTA Corporation could answer some of Coun-
cil's questions.
Claude R. Page Mr. Page, in answer to Councilman
San Diego Transit Corporation Hyde's inquiry, stated that the
100 Sixteenth Street $49,608 cited in San Diego Transit
San Diego Corporation's letter of May 30, 1973
was not to be included in the contract
for this year, but would be the cost
of certain additional service the City
might desire in the future.
He remarked that an on-board traffic
check in the near future would be bene-
ficial towards adjusting the revenue
figure credit for the City and com-
mented that San Diego Transit is haul-
ing better than 50% additional passen-
gers since the original study was
conducted. He would recommend %hat if
in the future the City decides against
the additional trips, San Diego Transit
could bypass Chula Vista.
Right to institute Councilman Hobel asked for comments on
rate changes Item No. 3 of the agreement which would
give the Transit Corporation the right
to ohange rates for passenger service.
Mr. Page responded by saying that the
Corporation's attorney felt it neces-
sary in the event %hey are not in re-
ceipt of any Comprehensive Planning
Organization funds and find it neces-
sary to raise the rates to continue
service. He explained that such rate
changes would not affect the cost to
the City, but would affect passengers'
costs.
Representation on Mr. Page commented that there are
Board of Directors going to be new members on San Diego
by cities served by Transit Corporation's Board of Direc-
San Diego Transit tots, one of which is Chula Vista.
Councilman Hyde discussed the possibi-
lity of having all cities represented
by fractional votes. Mr. Page indicated
i% would be appropriate for San Diego
Transit's Manager to make a request
for consideration of this.
Services to the City Councilman Hobel questioned Item No. 2
of the agreement relative to services
provided the City by San Diego Transit
Corporation.
Mr. Page stated he would come back to
the Council with some revisions to
this item, particularly paragraph (e)
which relates to changes in routing,
scheduling and/or relocating of stops.
Revenue study During discussion on Item No. 5 of the
agreement, Mr. Page remarked that
either party can request a revenue
study. He added that the only cost
involved would be the utilization (or
additional hiring) of personnel by
both parties. This study would show
a new net cost per mile.
Councilman Egdahl arrived at this time.
Mr. Page went on to say that the tech-
nical data would be provided by both
parties.
He noted the 54-3/4% increase in
ridership on the Corporation's entire
system, but could not tell at this
point what percentage of that increase
is generated by Chula Vista.
Mr. Page remarked there would be no
possibility of using SB 325 funds for
conducting a revenue study. They would
have to go to general fund money.
Councilman Egdahl commented that it
would be advantageous for the City to
make a revenue study before using SB
325 funds.
The Council discussed with Mr. Page
Paragraph V of Exhibit B of the agree-
ment (Decision Logic Table). Mr. Page
indicated Mr. Prior, General Manager
of San Diego Transit, was working on
different methods of conducting revenue
studies. He (Mr. Page) recommended if
such a study were to be made that it
be a nine-day check. The City could
conduct a study by itself if that is
desired.
$1.18 cost per mile Councilman Hobel asked what the range
of the cities (from low to high) might
be on this cost per mile breakdown.
Mr. Page indicated this information
could be provided.
RESOLUTION APPROVING Councilman Hobel stated that this res-
AGREEMENT WITH SAN olution would be before the Council
DIEGO TRANSIT CORPORATION for action at the next regular meeting
(June 19) and asked that Mr. Page dis-
cuss with Mr. Prior the questions
brought out today, specifically as
they relate to the possible rewording
of Item No. 2 of the agreement as well
as concerns expressed by the Council
on Item Nos. 2 and 5 of the agreement.
Mr. Page stated he would have this
information to the City Clerk by
Friday, June 15.
Councilman Hyde suggested Item No. 5
read "agreement with both parties,"
thus leaving either party free to go
ahead and conduct its own study.
STATUS REPORT ON This matter was deferred from the
PROGRESS OF REVISED meeting of June 12, 1973.
SB 325 GRANT FOR
INTRA-CITY BUS SERVICE City Manager Thomson explained that
the staff has worked with Aztec Bus
Lines in relation to a grant proposal
to meet CPO guidelines which includes
a consolidated package with an U.M.T.A.
grant. The deadline for submittal of
this grant proposal is Friday, June 15,
1973.
He further discussed the financing op-
tions as shown on a table presented
to the Council, stating that Items I -
III represent the expenditure side,
Items V - VII relate to non-City budget
costs in terms of financing, and Items
VIII and IX relate to City costs (both
in-kind and direct subsidy).
Larry Wittenberg Mr. Wittenberg stated he was directed
Assistant to the City to find the lowest cost for current
Manager year service for the City of Chula
Vista~
City-owned buses Discussion ensued on the fact that
under %his proposal the City will own
the busses and will be leasing them to
Aztec Bus Lines and also discussed was
the possibility of the City acquiring
some smaller busses.
Mr. Wittenberg explained the options
for purchasing busses, noting also the
consideration for a terminal and re-
furbishing old busses.
Burt Leonard Mr. Leonard stated the busses proposed
13638 Paseo del Mar this time are 45-passenger busses, they
E1 Cajon are 35-feet long as compared to 40-feet,
the turning radius is shorter, and aze
the type of vehicle Alameda-Contra Costa
County has specified and received approval
on grants for. They are similar to the
short-type busses that San Diego Transit
is operating with and are very maneuver-
able. He added that these busses, owned
by the City and licensed with "exempt"
license plates, can only be utilized as
the City might direct -- they would not
be integrated into the Aztec fleet. He
discussed the proposed new busses, adding
that they are smaller than the "Flxibus."
In answer to Councilman Hobel's inquiry
as to the flexibility in the grant of
purchasing different types of busses,
Mr. Wittenberg stated that capital ex-
penditures have to fulfill the amount
claimed, but once capital expenditures
are increased it would increase the
C~ty's requirement to subsidize the
O~ation as well.
Maintenance of busses Mr. Wittenberg remarked that details
as to maintenance of the busses would
be worked out, but the way it is set up
now, the maintenance would be conducted
at the Aztec yard.
Motion to accept It was moved by Councilman Scott and
proposed grant seconded by Councilman Hyde that the
grant as proposed by the City Manager
be accepted.
$40,000 deleted under City Manager Thomson noted that under
operating expenses the operating expenses, there was
originally $40,000 in the grant for
study. This has been omitted from this
package because the requirements of
CPO were such that the City is not equipped
to do this at this time, but this would
probably be put in next year.
Potential City subsidy Councilman Hobel asked if this would dim-
of this system inish in future years. Mr. Wittenberg
stated that the biggest problem is
favoritism for the large operator, which
the City is not. He added that the
largest thing the City has to overcome
is the cost-revenue picture. The City's
revenues do not come close to balancing
the cost of the operation and City costs
may go up rather than down.
Depreciation of busses Councilman Scott asked about the life
expectancy of the busses.
Pat Doogan, General Manager Mr. Doogan stated the life of a bus
Aztec Bus Lines varies as to use and maintenance; some
have lasted for twenty years. He commented
that the two busses to be bought next
year would, in five years, probably be
worth two-thirds of their original cost.
In answer to Councilman Scott's inquiry
Mr. Doogan said the busses would bear
the City Lines name on the side.
Revenue expectations City Manager Thomson noted
revenue expectations tied to fares --
20% increase in ridership and a 15%
increase in fare revenue
Length of time to obtain In response to Councilman Hobel's
busses query, Mr. Leonard stated "Flxible"
has indicated it would be 180 days or
or less to obtain these busses.
Motion carried The motion to accept the grant as proposed
by the City Manager carried unanimously.
Budget for bus operations It was moved by Councilman Egdahl,
adjusted seconded by Councilman Scott and unani-
mously carried that the City Manager
adjust the budget for bus operations,
Activity No. 1720, Account No. 5271,
increasing that amount in accord with
the grant package by an additional
$13,500.
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ADJOURNMENT Mayor Pro Tempore Hobel adjourned the
meeting at 4:46 p.m.
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