HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1974/11/13 MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COUNCIL OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA
Held Wednesday November 13, 1974
An adjourned regular meeting was held on the above date by the City Council of
Chula Vista, California beginning at 4:00 p.m. in the Council Conference Room,
Civic Center, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following
Councilmen present: Councilmen Scott, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl
Councilmen absent: Councilman Hobel
Staff present: City Manager Thomson, Assistant City Attorney Beam,
Director of Public Works Cole, Director of Parks and
Recreation Hall
AMERICAN LEGION LEASE Mayor Hamilton opened the meeting explaining
that the purpose was to consider the request
of the American Legion Post 434 for renewal
of their current lease for the building at
48 - 5th Avenue which expires on February
1, 1975.
City Attorney's comments Attorney Beam cited several Government Code
re sale of alcoholic sections pertaining to the legality of
beverages leasing the premises to a Veteran's group.
He stated that there is no prohibition against
the City allowing the sale of alcoholic beverages
by that organization on that property except
for any restrictions the City cares to make.
Mr. Beam pointed out that the Council has
previously banned the consumption of aicoholic
beverages in City parks (Ordinance No. 1179).
The American Legion, however, does have a
liquor license and this must be taken into
consideration.
Park land use In answer to Councilman Scott's query, City
Manager Thomson stated that the staff has no
objection to extending the lease but asked
that it be done fora"moderate" period of
time.
Director of Parks and Recreation Hall commented
that the only problem he is concerned about
is the parking lot. This has to be improved and
suggested it be made a condition of the
lease extension, if granted.
George Gerdts Mr. Gerdts, Commander of the Post, introduced
Commander the other gentlemen present. He declared
that if the lease is extended for 20 years,
the organization would put in the following
improvements;
Building security - one month;
remove the old building on premises
within two months; remove trash
cans and install dumpster imme-
diately; paint the outside of the
building within six months; landscape
exterior grounds - six to twelve
months; renovate interior of building -
one to two years; and connect outside
restrooms to City sewer.
Adjourned Regular Meeting 2 November 13, 1974
Council discussion Discussion followed regarding the hours of
operation, renting the facility to other
organizations, the fee charged ($15.00 per
meeting), the times the building is used by
the American Legion, and future plans by
the organization.
Suggestion by Parks and Director of Parks and Recreation Hall
Recreation Director commented that there have been no problems
in leasing the premises to this group;
however, he would suggest that they be directed
to clean up the trash and be more cooperative
in regard to landscaping.
Suggestion by Attorney Attorney Beam discussed the "hold harmless"
clause in the lease. He suggested that if
the lease is extended, there be a proviso
that public liability insurance be carried
and that there be a hold harmless clause
in the lease.
Mayor's comments Mayor Hamilton indicated that he did not know
what the needs of the City would be in 20
years and suggested that the extension be
granted f~r a period of 10 years with an
option of an additional 10 years and a clause
added in the lease that if the demands of
the City are such that the property is
needed at any time during this option, they
be given 180 days notice to vacate.
The Mayor asked the City Manager to give the
Council some direction as to what improvements
should be required. The Manager is to work
with the Public Works Department, Parks and
Recreation and Planning on this.
Proposals of improvement Councilman Scott noted the improvements sug-
gested by the organization and said these were
things that should have been donea long time
ago - they were all minimal.
Motion for resolution to be It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by
brought back Councilman Egdahl and unanimously carried
that the staff look into the possiblity of
leasing this for another i0 years with a
10-year option, and after the 10 years, there
be a lg0-day escape clause. This is to be
a resolution to be brought back to Council.
Included should be the improvements the staff
thinks are minimal which includ~ those
enumerated at this meeting.
Discussion of motion Councilman Hyde suggested the lease include
the responsibility to provide use of the
facility for public use which does not inter-
fere with the normal functions.
Assistant City Attorney Beam explained that
it was permissible for the American Legion
to charge other entities for the use of the
building but he would like some indication
as to whether or not the monies taken in are
over or below what is contemplated for
potential improvement to the leaseholder.
Adjourned Regular Meeting 3 November 13, 1974
The Council concurred that the Attorney
should meet with the representatives of this
organization and discuss this aspect.
POST OFFICE TRAFFIC Mr. Henry Copp, Postmaster, introduced
Mr. Charles M. Adams, San Diego District,
US Postal Service; Mr. Frederick J.
Meyer, Architect hired by the Postal Service
to study this problem and John Garcia,
Superintending Engineer, US Post Office,
Chula Vista.
Director of Public Works Mr. Cole submitted a plot plan of the property
Cole noting the parking area, ingress and egress.
He discussed the changes made recently in
the parking area: removal of the drop boxes,
and bumpers in the stalls taken out which
made the aisles a little wider.
Mr. Cole discussed in detail the staff's
proposal for changing the parking layout and
relieving the traffic congestion.
Frederick J. Meyer, Architect Mr. Meyer presented three proposals: (1)
3611 Fifth Avenue their recommended plan; (2) an alternate
San Diego plan; and (3) the staff's plan. He discussed
each plan in detail commenting that the first
plan would need the cooperation of the staff
to make it work -- it would add more lanes
in the southerly entrance (3 lanes); have a
queue lane on Third Avenue, have two lanes
in the inside aisle and provide for 50 stalls.
Plan 2 would have the traffic coming in on
the northern entrance only; there would be
a right-hand turn only coming out, snorkel
boxes would be on the southern lanes.
(Councilman Egdahl left at this time.)
Mr. Cole noted his objections to the proposals
ag submitted by Mr. Meyer.
Mayor's comments Mayor Hamilton indicated there were no good
solutions to the problem unless the Post Office
went to a two-story parking facility.
Councilman Hyde's proposal Councilman Hyde proposed that a chain link
fence be put around the back of the building
for security purposes leaving a 10' or 11'
lane with drop boxes on the southerly side
of the building (at the left hand side) for
the convenience of the motorists. This would
be a moving traffic lane that could hold
possibly 75 cars which would be used primarily
for the drop boxes.
Mr. Copp, Postmaster, indicated that the entire
area in the back is used by the trucks and
parking spaces for the employees.
Traffic along Third Avenpe Mr. Cole declared that before the Post Office
was built on Third Avenue the traffic along
this section of Third Avenue was 9000 cars
daily and today it is 19,000. He remarked
that it was quite important to keep the traffic
moving along this street.
Adjourned Regular Meeting 4 November 13, 1974
Open Kearney Street Mr. Meyer suggested again exploring the
possibility of opening up Kearney Street.
He referred to Councilman Hyde's suggestion
noting that there would be a need for a
wide turning lane at each end of the building
(west side) and that the gasoline pumps are
located at one corner of this lot.
Mayor Hamilton suggested the possibility
of the Post Office utilizing the Masonic
Lodge parking adjacent to this building for
their employees.
Staff review Councilman Hyde suggested these proposals
be studied by the staff in closer detail,
evaluate them, and see what is necessary
on the part of the City.
Councilman Scott noted that the Council will
have to reevaluate opening up Kearney Street
and the Post Office will have to look into
some ways of being more flexible - perhaps
not providing as much parking for their em-
ployees.
Directed to staff Mayor Hamilton referred this matter to the staff
for comment and to take all the discussion
into consideration and come back to Council
with a proposal.
Director of Redevelopment City Manager Thomson announced that Mr. Paul
Operations named G. Desrocher has been hired as Redevelopment
Operations Director.
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at 6:15 p.m.
to the meeting scheduled for Monday, November
18, 1974 at 7:30 p.m. to conduct interview5
for Boards and Commissions.
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