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HomeMy WebLinkAboutcc min 1974/11/19 MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHULA VISTA, CALIFORNIA Held Tuesday November 19, i974 A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Chula Vista, California, was held on the above date beginning at 7;00 p.m. in the Council Chamber, Civic Center, 276 Fourth Avenue, with the following Councilmen present: Councilmen Scott, ltobel, Hamilton, ttyde, Egdahl Councilmen absent: None Staff present: City Manager Thomson, City Attorney Lindberg, Director of Public Works Cole, Director of Planning Peterson, Director of Parks and Recreation Hall, Fire Chief Smithey The pledge of allegiance to the Flag was led by Mayor Pro Tempore Egdahl, followed by a moment of silent prayer. INTRODUCTION OF GUEST CO~4MISSIONER Mayor Pro Tempore Egdahl introduced Mr. Wayne Smith, member of the Planning Commis- sion, as guest commissioner for this meeting. PROCLAMATION - "HERITAGE DAYS" Mayor Pro Tempore Egdahl issued a Proclama- tion declaring the weeks of November 19-29, 1974 as "Heritage Days" in the City of Chula Vista. The Proclamation was accepted by Miss Helen Gohres. PROCLAMATION - "BICENTENNIAL Mayor Pro Tempore Egdahl proclaimed the FAMILY OF CHULA VISTA" descend~nts of Charles and tfattie Austin as the official Bicentennial Family of Chula Vista. Forty members of the Austin family present at this meeting were recog- nized. Mrs. Margaret Geyer De Nee was introduced by Mayor Pro Tempore Egdahl. Mrs. Gcyer Dc Nee is the daughter of George Geyer, third Mayor of Chula Vista. PROCLAMATION - "NATIONAL The week of November 24, 1974 to December 1, BIBLE WEEK" 1974 was proclaimed "National Bible lVeek" in the City of Chula Vista. Reverend Ken Pagard of the First Baptist Church accepted the Proclamaiion. ORAL COMblUNICATIONS Shirley Wise Mrs. Shirley Wise, representing South Bay Bonita Trail Club in Bonita, said they were con- cerned about what is to happen to their established trail located south and east of Lynwood Mills between Lynwood Hills and Southwestern College area. Now with the de- velopment of Rice Canyon and the Bloom property, their trails may be obliterated. Mrs, Wise submitted a map showing the equestrian trails. She asked that their appeal be placed on the Planning Commission City Council Meeting 2 November 19, 1974 meeting to be held tomorrow (November 20). She also requested that the Council be amenable to encouraging the subdividers to plan for the ~backyard horse" so that the Riders Club will be assured of having horse trails in this Chula Vista area. Mr. Peterson commented that this item will be placed on the Planning Commission next week (the meeting tomorrow is a workshop meeting) and he will notify Mrs. Wise of the time and place. (Mayor Hamilton arrived at this time.) Carole Smith Mrs. Smith asked for Council's position 87 "F" Street concerning continued hearings on the DLB Chula Vista Corporation's proposed Plaza del Rey: 1. Does the Council intend to continue the hearings on this proposal? 2. If so, identify the person or persons requesting such consideration in light of the announced foreclosure and public sale of the lands involved in Plaza del Rey. She asked that the answers to these ques- tions be mailed to Citizens Concerned II, P.O. Box 451, Chula Vista. PUBLIC HEARING - In a written report to the Council, Director CONSIDERATION OF SAFHTY of Planning Peterson explained that the ELEMENT OF GENERAL, PLAN State Planning and Zoning Law (Government Code) requires that each city and county prepare and adopt a Safety Element. This is a companion general plan of the Seismic Safety Element which the Council recently referred to the Planning Commission. Mr. Peterson added that while the Safety Element covers fire'safety and seismic safety, it concentrates on the former. On October 23, 1974, the Planning Commission recommended that the Safety Element be adopted. Public hearing opened This being the time and place as advertised, Mayor Hamilton opened the public hearing. Public hearing closed There being no comments, either for or against, the hearing was declared closed. RESOLUTION NO. 7525 - Offered by Councilman Scott, the reading of ADOPTING THE SAFETY the text was waived by unanimous consent, ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL passed and adopted by the following vote, PLAN OF THE CITY OF to-wit: CHULA VISTA AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl Noes; None Absent: None City Council Meeting 3 November 19, 1974 APPROVAL OF MINUTES It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried that th~ minutes of the meeting of November 12, 1974 be approved, copies having been sent to each Councilman. PUBLIC HEARING - This is a stall-initiated amendment to the CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING Zoning Ordinance emanating from a review ZONING ORDINANCE RELATING of how the Hillside Modifying District TO HILLSIDE DEVELOPMENT relates to approved hillside subdivisions. In a written report to the Council, Director of Planning Peterson explained that the absence of a built-in flexibility in the "H" District regulations has required that the "P" Precise Plan Modifying District also be attached so a number of properties have been rezoned to R-1-H-P. The staff now feels that it is better practice to amend the "M" District regulations to allow for the necessary flexibility than to continue to employ a second modifying district ("P" Modifying District). On October 23, 1974, the Planning Commission recommended the adoption of this amendment. Mayor Hamilton indicated he was surprised that the Hillside Ordinance had the re- strictions of lot sizes and setbacks under the underlying zone. Councilman Scott noted that at the meeting held last week (November 12), the Council discussed the coverage question and agreed to hold further discussions on it -- the problems the City has had with it, and the basic philosophical background of why lot coverage. Public hearing continued It was moved by Councilman Scottand seconded by Councilman Hobel that this item be held off until a discussion is held on lot coverage. Discussion of motion Councilman Hyde commented that he recognizes the need for flexibiiity here; however, in the last sentence of the ordinance, it states that the developer must provide specific floor plans at the time of sub- mission of the tentative map, but nothing is stated as to changes in the lot. He asked that language be inserted to in- dicate that any deviation from normal standards as well as floor plans of houses will be pointed out or specifically noted. Mr. Peterson declared this was the intent and it will be clarified. Question called Councilman Egdahl called for the question. Motion carried ~]e motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen Scott, Hobel, llamilton, Hyde, Egdahl Noes: None Absent: None City Council Meeting 4 November 19, 1974 ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION (Continued until Planning Commission 33.601 A 7 OF CHAPTER 33 recommendation is forwarded to City OF THE CHULA VISTA CITY Council~) CODE BY ADDING THERETO A NEW SUBPARAGRAPH (e) RELATING TO LOT SIZES IN "H" HILLSIDE MODIFYING DISTRICT CONSENT CALENDAR It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried that the Consent Calendar be approved and adopted. RESOLUTION NO. 7526 - R.E. Hazard Contracting Company has com- ACCEPTING PUBLIC pleted the asphaltic concrete pavement IMPROVEMENTS - ASPHALT overlay of Telegraph Canyon Road and Otay PAVEmeNT OVERLAY ON Lakes Road in accordance with the terms TELEGRAPH CANYON ROAD on the contract. All work has been com~ AND OTAY LAKES ROAD pledge to the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works. RESOLUTION NO. 7527 - The improvements in Rancho Rios Subdivision ACCEPTING PUBLIC IMPROVe- Unit No. 2 have been completed by the sub- MENTS IN RANCHO RIOS divider in accordance with the original SUBDIVISION, UNIT NO. 2 agreement. Ail public improvements have been completed to the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works and in accordance with the requirements of the City. RESOLUTION NO. 7528 - City Clerk Fulasz certified the result of DECLARING THE RESULTS OF tile election to fill two vacant seats and THE PARKING AND BUSINESS two other vacancies (one missed more than IMPROVEMENT AREA ELECTION three meetings in a row and the other moved HELD NOVEMBER 12, 1974 out of the District). The four top votes went to John Harper, Earl Blunk, Joseph Broccoli and Verna Disney. (End of Consent Calendar) ORDINANCE NO. 1581 - This is strictly a housekeeping measure REPEALING SECTION 23.24 noting that Section 23.24 has been super- OF CHAPTER 23 OF THE seded and should not be codified. CHULA VISTA CITY CODE RELATING TO THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE WHICH HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED AND SHOULD NOT BE CODIFIED IN THE 1974 CHULA VISTA CITY CODE - FIRST READING Ordinance placed on It was moved by Councilman Hobel that this first reading ordinance be placed on first reading and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit; AYES: Councilmen Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl, Scott Noes: None Absent: None City Council Meeting 5 November 19, 1974 ORDINANCE NO. 1582 - The ordinance amends the Subdivision AMENDING SECTION 28.902~ Ordinance to provide for certain technical SUBPARAGRAPHS B AND E standards for the construction of subdivi- OF CHAPTER 28 OF THE sions tO he included in documents other CITY CODE RELATING TO than the Subdivision Ordinance, These SUBDIVISIONS - FIRST include "Typical Street Sections" and the READING Subdivision Manual. Ordinance placed on It was moved by Councilman Itobel that this first reading ordinance be placed on first reading and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. ~e motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen Hobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl, Scott Noes; None Absent: None ORDINANCE NO. 1583 - The ordinance establishes a fee for the AMENDING SECTION 2.95, Subdivision Manual and for purchase of SUBSECTION (C) OF Standard Drawings. CHAPTER 2 OF THE CITY CODE RELATING TO FEES CHARGED FOR REPRODUC- TION OF CITY DOCUMENTS - FIRST READING Ordinance placed on It was moved by Councilman Hobel that this first reading ordinance be placed on first reading and that the reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen ltobel, Hamilton, Hyde, Egdahl, Scott Noes: None Absent: None ORDINANCE NO. 1577 - After holding a public hearing on November 12, AMENDING ZONING ORDINANCE 1974, the ordinance was placed on first TO CHANGE ZONE OF PROPERTY reading. AT 255 "E" STREET FROM C-O TO C-C-P - SECOND READING AND ADOPTION Ordinance placed on second It was moved by Councilman Hyde that this reading and adopted ordinance be placed on sec6nd reading and adopted and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES; Councilmen ttyde, Egdahl, Scott, Hobel, Hamilton Noes: None Absent; None City Council Meeting 6 November 19, 1974 ORDINANCE NO. 1578 - Ordinances 1578~ 1579 and 1580 are of a REPEALING ARTICLE II housekeeping nature and were prepared to OF CHAPTER 3, SECTIONS assist the codifying firm in the prepara- 3.6 THROUGH 3.9 OF THE tion of the City Code, CITY CODE RELATING TO SIGNS - SECOND READING AND ADOPTION Ordinance placed on second It was moved by Councilman Hyde that this reading and adopted, ordinance be placed on second reading and adopted and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl, Scott, Hobel, Hamilton Noes: None Absent: None ORDINANCE NO. 1579 - This ordinan¢~ clarifies the intent of AMENDING ORDINANCE Ordinance No. 1073 and eliminates confusing NO. 1073, SECTION 1 language of Section 20.35.2. AND SECTION 20.35.2(i) THEREOF CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 20 OF THE CITY CODE ALL RELATING TO NOISE REGULATIONS - SECOND READING AND ADOPTION Ordinance placed on second It was moved by Councilman Hyde that this reading and adopted ordinance be placed on second reading and adopted and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES': Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl, Scott, Hobel, Hamilton Noes: None Absent: None ORDINANCE NO. 1580 - ~e ordinance relates to street trees. ~e REPEALING ORDINANCES 872 two ordinances (872 and 1023) were super- AND 1023 WHICH HAVE BEEN seded by Ordinance No. 1205. SUPERSEDED OR PRE-EMPTED AND SHOULD NOT BE CODI- FIED IN THE 1974 CITY CODE - SECOND READING AND ADOPTION Ordinance placed on second It was moved by Councilman Hyde that this reading and adopted ordinance be placed on second reading and adopted and that reading of the text be waived by unanimous consent. ?he motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen Hyde, Egdahl, Scott, Hobel, Hamilton Noes: None Absent: None City Council Meeting 7 November 19, 1974 REPORT ON DISCONTINUATION City Manager Thomson referred to the report OF GLASS RECYCLING CENTER submitted by Gregory Smith, Administrative Analyst, regarding the glass recycling center. Mr, Smith discussed the background whereby in March 1973, the Chula Vista Junior Women's Club established the Center and then it was taken over by the Boy Scouts (El Camino District). The Boy Scouts have now indicated their unwillingness to continue the operation based on economic factors. ~e City Manager recommended that the recycling center be discontinued pending renewed interest of a community organization in its operation. Report accepted It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded by Councilman Hyde ahd unanimously carried that the report be accepted. "J" STREET BRIDGE Director of Public Works Cole reported that PEDESTRIAN PROBLEM the State Division of Highways will put through a change order of the 1-805 project. Resident Engineer Jack Kramer will issue the order as soon as he receives the design for the "sunburst" (as on the Orange Street Bridge). This will be installed within one month. The Council expressed its concern about the one-month delay and asked for something temporary to be done. Mr. Cole indicated he would contact them on this. Councilman Hobei asked Mr. Cole to check to see if the modification will be made on the "H" Street Bridge. Accept report It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, seconded by C~uneilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the report be accepted. REPORT ON REQUEST FOR Director of Parks and Recreation Hall re- WAIVER OF GENERAL RULE ported that the City employees have re- NO. 9, RESOLUTION NO. quested a waiver of the rule which prohibits 6436 the serving of refreshments containing alco- hol in Parks and Reereation Department facilities for their annual Christmas party on December 13, 1974. Motion to approve request It was moved by Councilman Hyde, seconded by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried that the request be granted. Motion to refer to Parks It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded and Recreation Commission by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried and staff that General Rule No. 9 be referred to the Parks and Recreation Commission and staff for review on possible modification. Assistant City Attorney Beam commented that his office is already working on this since it also relates to the American Legion lease. City Council Meeting 8 November 19, 1974 REPORT ON AVAILABILITY In a written repQrt, Director of Personnel OF COMPREHENSIVE EMPLOY- McCabe announced that the City will receive b~NT AND TRAINING ACT the first allocation of funds totaling (CETA) TITLE II FUNDS $117,741 which should be spent between now OF FISCAL YEAR 1974 and June $0, 1975 with the second alloca- tion of funds of $193,384 to be forthcoming in two or three months. The City's current PEP Occupational Summary was revised to allow for immediate filling under PEP of any new positions created thereby expending all PEP funds before starting the new CETA Program. Mr. McCabe presented the Council with a summary of the PEP jobs currently filled and with those considered in the extension of the program. Report accepted It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the report be accepted. REPORT ON IMPACT OF Director of Public Works Cole explained ABANDONMENT OF ROUTE that on October 29, 1974, the Council directed 252 PROJECT IN SOUTHEAST the staff to evaluate the impact of dele- SAN DIEGO tion of Route 252 in southeast San Diego from the freeway system. ~,{r. Cole remarked that the people in Chela Vista would benefit jointly with all residents of the South Bay area through the con- structing of Route 252. Itc recommended that the Council adopt a resolution sup- porting this construction adding that a deletion of the route would cause an im- balance of traffic flow on the remainder of the freeway system and result in overload- ing and reduced level of service for those portions of the system ~erving Chula Vista. Report accepted It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the report be accepted and a ~olution be brought back supporting Route 252. REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION Director of Planning Peterson commented OF COUNCIL ACTION ON that in meeting with the applicant, it has OCTOBER 16, 1974 ON become apparent that different interpre- PLAZA DEL REY rations of the Council motion made on October 16, 1974 exist. He asked for clarification on several points. Councilman Scott's clarification (A transcript follows.) Scott As far as the first question is concerned, we are talking about an area that is on the south of H Street. Hyde Mr. Scott, in your comments, in page 3 of the testimony, it says: "Scott: Well, those are gross acres. Yes." How much more clear can you get? They are gross acres. Scott We're really talking about everything south of H Street - we were referring to the map at that time. I don't know what the acreage is - whatever it is. That's what we're talking about. Peterson We should be more specific than that. Even the green area shown is slope area shown to the south of H Street - that's still south of H Street and if it is Council's intent to, let's see what is that - Street "A" is the street to the south - ~verything between "H" Street and Street "A" - that's suppose to be the .... -Mayor O.K. Inside the circle? Scott Those are the acreages that were given to us that night at the hearing as being applicable to those areas between the two streets - we weren't talking about the flood control channel. Is that how everyone understood it? Egdahl I didn't understand it that way, Mr. Mayor. I understood there was a reduction in the acreage from what they were asking for by 20 acres. Mayor That's correct. That's what he says in there but he's just saying it's between the two roads-- the area we're talking about is between the two roads. Scott Sure, the reduction is 20 acres. Mayor That's of the shopping center to be developed. Scott And the shopping center itself, as I gave the n~Dtion, is the actual regional shopping center building which was discussed as being 1.2 million square feet, and we reduced that to 750,000 square feet. It didn!t have to do with the outline of the building. Does that clarify that? Egdahl No other buildings can be built there - is that what you're saying? Mayor No. He said it would be limited to the 750,000 square feet rather than 1.2 million. Egdahl How many other buildings were in the framework of H Street and "A" Street that can be built? Scott Well, we had the ..... divided into the other section was the recreational-commercial which wasn't included in that motion. We talked about whether they could put some others on the other side over here if a need was shown or demonstra- ted, but the shopping center of 750,000 acres.. with a shopping center that says regional shopping center--the building itself. That's what was proposed to be 1.2 million square feet and that was reduced to 750,000 square feet. Hyde And that was to be all within that loop. 8b Scott Ail within that loop road as proposed by the staff. Egdahl Well, figures were cited in the motion. The figures that I understand go from 80 plus 20 acresof green belt plus .... then I'm not clear. Are there an additional 20 acres? Hyde Outside of that. Egdahl Well, I'm not hearing that. Are they outside of the "H" Street, "A" Street enclosure? Mayor You're talking about the recreational... Egdahl Yes, I'm just asking. Yes, so within the loop, it's 80 acres. Scott Right. And the 20 acres is also within that loop of open space. Mayor IN other words, there is approximately 100 acres in there and approximately 20 acres of it will be open, approximately 80 acres of it can be developed. Scott The 20 acres of open space, it seems to me, was right in the motion - we wanted that to be landscaped and used creatively throughout the parking lot and buffer right out in front as suggested by one of the speakers. ~eterson Yes, that was the staff's interpretation but I think the applicant disagreed with that. Scott Well that was %he motion. Hyde In item 2c also--"additional square footage of office, professional or convenience retail area within the 80 acre regional shopping center site..." that was not provided for. That's my understanding. Mayor It was my understanding that the question was asked "can it be?" and Mr. Scott said "yes it could be." Scott Well, what we talked about is that it could be if it was shown at a later date that it was necessary. We're talking about those parks there now %hat are on %he right-hand side of the regional shopping center - that was neither approved or disapproved. Hyde It was my understanding, Mr. Scott, that if they wanted to have any professional or convenience retail within the 80-acre regional shopping center that it would be part of the 750,000 square feet. Mayor Says right here - says "recreation commercial would be another part of the 20 and Mr. Hobel says nothing in there for profession and recreation in the recreation commercial - and Frank says "no, I don't include that in the recreation commercial" - all right? If they want to put something professional, it would have to come out of %he 100 acres, which is the 80 acres plus the 20 acres open space. So it's purely and simply that. If they want to ... Scott Are we talking about that at a later date.. Hyde But I think the question is whether we're talking about it in addition to the 750,000 square feet and my understanding of Mr. Scott's motion was that if they wished to do that, that shall be included within the 750,000 square feet limitation within the 80 acres of the commercial in the regional shopping center. Mayor There's a lot of difference between the pro- fessional buildings and the regional shopping center andMr. Scott's comment was "the regional shopping center will be 750,000 square feet max" period - right there. Hyde May I refer you ... Scott That seems to me a minor point because in our discussions I know we did bring this point up of what to do about that at a later date and I don't see ~hat as being Hyde I refer you to page 2 - I'm not sure if this is exactly the right answer - page 2 of the minutes - in the center of the page identified by Note 2 where it says "Scott - right - recreational/ commercial would be another 20; Hobel: Nothing in there for professional/recreational/commercial; Scott: No, I don't include that - I don't include that in the recreational/commercial if they want to put something professional, it would have to be out of the 100 acres." My interpretation of that was that that's a part of the 750,000 square feet on the 80 acre portion - commercial portion - within that loop. Scott Of all the things we had tonight this seems to (did not use mike) be the only point for disagreement and I think it could be interpreted either way - the way I meant it was not to be included...I can see how a reasonable person could interpret it either way...I really don't see...what we are talking about...the buildings...of those magnitude of those which are located on the mapwhich would be auxiliary to...the buildings. I can see where someone might read into that whereby you could have additional retail outlets. That certainly wasn't the intent -- just the utilization of that office or professional building$...as necessary down the road - not to come out of the 750,000 square feet. Hyde My concern here is that if that's not pinned down, then there is no:limit to the amount of professional office facilities that could be built within the 100 acres in addition to the 750,000. Scott I think that's a legitimate concern. I think we should pin those down. Hobel You're talking square footage. Scott Right. Hyde My idea was that you were saying - your motion - that you wanted the development within that 80 acres to be..not to ~xceed 750,000 square feet. Mayor Regional shopping center. 8d Hyde Of course with the shopping center - it's shown as a glob there - it doesn't necessarily have to be that way; it could be four separate buildings. Scott My motion didn't address itself to that, be- cause what I was thinking as 750,000 square feet. The question was asked about that... my thoughts was that it'll come up sometime in the future to be considered. So, really, my motion is more in line with what Mr. Hyde suggested: 750,000 square feet there period. Hyde Within the 80 acres, tha~s it. Scott Then if something down the road came, we'll consider it at a later date. On the other hand, perhaps it would be better to pin it down at this time. Hobel There's a designation on that map of pro- fessional and office space to the right. It was on there at the time we considered it. Scott Right. Hobel And as I read the motion, when you said 750,000 that that was the regional shopping center or the glob as Mr. Hyde calls it, in the middle. Mayor You kept talking about phasing. YOu said %here wouldn't be any phasing - any more than 750,000. Scott We did the same with recreational-con%mercial-- we didn't designate any square footage and so both of them are on the same .... which would indicate it wouldn'.t come out of the 750,000; but on the other hand, perhaps at some stage, we should ...I don't know whether we should or should not...it should be clarified whether we intended to do it or not. Egdahl The concern I had at this point is probably... I think Mt. Hyde has already expressed that same thing .... if you delineate the square footage and have a shopping center and the amount of open space that they have to have, I'm not really concerned about the iamount of open space ...about the amount of acreage that is given .... all you are doing is spreading out 750,000 square feet of floor space over a larger area and what you develop is more open space - much more open feeling in the center. If, on the other hand, they can build other kinds of buildings within that 80 scres that can be built upon, leaving 20 of the 100 for open space, then you can start a real congestion and develop-a lack of open space with buildings. Mayor We have to be careful we don~t jump into the precise plan part of this also - on that. Scott Well, what we're really talking about... perhaps that would be a better ~lace to handle that would be on the precise plan area. Hyde Well, Mr. Mayor, I guess primarily I would address Mr. Scott because it was his motion. It strikes me that the intent of your motion as I saw it was that in that area we classify as a recreational shopping center area --maybe we better talk about it as area--that the maximum square footage development which would be allowed there would be 750,000 square feet. Now,the way in which they use it - if they want to use a portion of it for professional buildings as contrasted to retail, that would be their option. Mayor That was no way the motion... Hyde Well, I'm suggesting that as a .... Mayor No, you're Changing the motion. Hyde He said it's not tied down. But I did have i the idea in your mind it would be 80 acres of which the total amount to be developed would be 750,000 square feet. Scott My intent really was 20 acres of recreational- (no mike) commercial, 750,000 shopping center, and it was alluded to the fact that the professional could be put in at a later date. It wasn't my intent to take it away from the 750,000 at all...what can be developed in that... I think it's important...but on the other hand, we have an area off to the side. This one, we have the possibility...you see a nice map: there, but if you don't tie it down some way, you can have a, as Mr. Egdahl stated, quite a bit of congestion bF the addition of buildings all around that shopping center, killing the intent of my motion. I think we perhaps either isolate those buildings and treat them differently or give some specifics. I think it should be tied down. But I didnt intend to deduct it from the 750,000 square feet. That wasn't my intent. Ail that's happened...it happens to be a loose end but I think it can be taken care of. Mayor To some ext~nt, the ~quare footage that's developed and the parking spaces required certainly is not going to have any impact on how much of it you can build on, crying out loud. YOu start building floor space into a building, every 300 square foot of office space, you have to have 300 square feet for a car, right? Peterson Yes. there is one parking space for each square feet of office space and one parking space together with aisles and the 10% landscaping amount to 400 square feet actually -- closer to 400. Mayor They're not going to build all ouer that land down there, if that's the concern of the Council. Peterson Course, that depends too, Mr. Mayor, on the height of the buildings and whether parking is in structures or underground or .... I think 8f ~ Peterson (cont'd) maybe it is a loose end that should be addressed either now or at the precise plan stage. Hobel Well then, Mr. Mayor if I may, then at the time we ~.ooked at it...to me, the motion was clear: 750,000 square feet for the regional shopping center. Those other buildings were in there - they were never spoken to as to square footage, so how could it be interpreted that that was included in there? I don't see...there's buildings there...but %here's no square footage tied down to them, either in the 20 acres to the west of the loop street or the other 20 acres still within the confines of the loop. Scott I think it would be best to handle it at the precise plan with the comments that we have about the concern. Hyde Well, the concern I have gets back to traffic-- the more development you have in terms of square footage development, the more traffic you have, and I have the idea that was one of the major reasons of your limitation of the 750,000 square feet, and that that would be the development and if there was to be any professional, it would have to come out of that. I still think it's a good idea to nail down what the gross development shall be in terms of square footage. Mayor Well, we can't do that without opening the public hearing, because none of that was cleared through the Council during the public hearing. Hyde Well, I don't know - we don't have to open the public hearing for that. Hobel ...define the square footage... (no mike) Mayor Where are we going to ge% that information? Hyde The public hearing is all over - we've had all the testimony. Mayor That's right, but no testimony on square footage .... Hyde Oh, ¢~rtainly... Mayor Not in the area of the professional area. Scott W~ll, Mr. Mayor, I wonder if we can get an interpretation from the City Attorney. He usually gives us pretty good advice. LIndberg Thank you,Councilman Scott. I think there was a full exploration of the matter of acreage to be devoted to commercial and the amount of square foo~ag~ for the regional shopping center. In my interpretation of the minutes, I Could not define any square footage for recreational-commercial activities 6r professional activities aside from the regional Lindberg (cont'd) shopping center, and I did not attempt Jn %he resolution as prepared twice to attempt to delineate those, and of course, that's the reason we are here this evening - to try and have some better definition or as suggested, to defer the precise limitations on the square footage of professional-recreational-commercial in addition to the shopping center come up at the precise plan stage. Hobel Which would then cover you in regard to your traffic concern. Hyde Well, the problem with that is you're saying to the developer, "look, you've got 750,000 square feet in that loop on 80 acres, within that area, for a regional shopping center, but if you want to come in and ask for a blank number of acres for professional buildings, you're free to do so,"and obviously, they'll do that. Hobel Will, you're mixing words...look up there on that map. You knew all along - we all knew - that there's professional office space up there. Now, we're trying to cover it up and say it never existed. Hyde Now, just a minute, that's not true. Mr. Scott's motion oreated the,..in the co~n~rci~l area, t~o areas: the regional shopping center - 100 acres and develop 20 of open space - outside of it, an area for recreational and/or office space... Mayor No, recreational-commercial. Hobel Recreational-commercial.~.if you'll read in the minutes... Hyde Just a minute... Hobel IN the middle of page 2. Mayor Right, recreational-commercial. Hobel Nothing in there for professional, nothing in there foX... Hyde Ail right, I ~%and corrected. No, I don't include that in the recreational-commercial; if they want to put something professional, it would have to be out of the 100 acres.. Mayor Not out of the shopping center. Hyde O.K. Well, wait a minute, it doesn't say that. Hobel It would have to be out of the 100 acres and that refers to the 80-20. Hyde Truo, but within the lid of 750,000 square feet. scott It isn't defined - there's no way you can... Hyde Let's define it now. Scott It has to be defined. My intent was not to take it Out of the 750,000 square feet; we did not nail down what it should be, and I think we really should because I think it's really important. On the 20 acres, quite obviously, you're talking about ...that'll have to be taken care of at the precise plan. 8h Scott (cont'd) I think this other can be too, especially with a notation that's made here tonight - that we're looking for something about like what's on the plan, and not anything different than that. But, we were talking, as I under- stood it, that being at a later date, and really wasn't pressing. In f~ct, they were talking at one time about temporary roads which later said to be permanent. Hyde We're looking for apparently some kind of expression of how much professional space can be allowed, right? Mayor Mr. Peterson, how many square feet do we have in those four pink areas inside the ring road. Peterson Theatre, restaurant, office, and two TVA --I don't know the square footage of those smaller pink indications there, but I think I'm getting the sense of Councilman Scott's intent here...something of the magnitude shown there I think would be my interpretation of Council's intent. The applicant has been discussing with us, at least the possibility of uses that might involve additional retail sales uses, con- venience uses that would not be a part of the shopping center, and possibly professional offices. Scott That's clearly outside the intent of the motion, clearly! Hobel I recognize those areas as professional areas out there - those other pink blocks .... there's never been confusion in my mind about the 750,000 square feet cause everything was oriented all through the public hearing from ranges of 650,000 to 1.2 million for the regional shopping center. Even the point, I don't see it in these minutes, but I think I asked Councilman Scott - "was 750,000 square feet the lid on the shopping center?" - and the answer was "yes, that's the lid." Scott Well, let me make make a motion that - I would move this be cleared up: the professional buildings outside ...within the 80 acres, that the map come back, the precise plan, no bigger than those put in schematic form on Exhibit "C" and we311 make a determination at that time. Those 1-2-3-4 buildings... the TEA, the tkeater... Hobel Is that map to scale? Peterson Yes. Mayor There are two T~A, one theater, one says pro- fessional services. Peterson Restaurant and offices, I believe... Mayor I'll second the motion. Egdahl I'll speak against the motion because before a very schematic diagram like thi~,~ould be 11 stories high, it could be one story high, all of that relates to parking and traffic, and I just couldn't give that kind of blanket approval. Hobel Wait a minute now. I asked Mr. Peterson if that map was to scale and he said it was. Egdahl It's a scale of the floor plan, it doesn't have anything to do with heights - the number of floors. Mayor Well, it certainly would, because they couldn't have prepared a traffic count that wasn't to some type of use, square footage use; it had to Me just like~ the shopping center did. Scott I certainly...well, you know if they come in with something 69 stories high, I'll tend to be a little skeptical about the seriousness of carrying out the Council's intent. Egdahl We have questions tonight ~bout the intent of the Councilmen, and there is a difference of opinion between the developer and the Planning department in trying to interpret the intent of the Council. The Council, itself, struggles with the intent. Let's be specific then...let's not leave another motion that leaves...that allows for any kind of vagaries of intent. Seems to me to really act intelligently, Mr. Mayor, this kind of a motion or anyting similar to it, we would have to know something about the... Hobel Is this your amendment? Egdahl I don't have an amended motion. I'm speaking against the motion on the floor. Mayor Let Mr. Egdahl finish his statement. Egdahl I think the kind of information that we would have to have would have to rela%ei~o, you said, to the amount of building they could build in this 80 acre area other than the 750,000 square foot shopping center would have to do wi~h ...:.would have to do with parking. Let's get a report back that says how much parking, how much of the area would have to be consumed for parking for the shopping canter, and then hear how much area is left beyond the 20 acres, or within the 80 acres I should say, how much area is left to be actually used for parking. Hobel Which the staff probably has. Egdahl They may have. Hobel They had to use it in their traffic... Scottl Of course, all I'm saying is that we'll look at this at %he precise plan and obviously, we'll have that study at that time to act upon it. I certainly wouldn't want to make a motion that wasn't intelligent, and I didn't do so, because we'll still look at %his at %he time we'll have a precise plan, and I don't think we'll have an 11 story building and I don't think we'll have a 3 story building on that property. I think the staff knows the intent of the Council, and with this motion, it gives %hemdirection they need and they can direct the developer so we, ll have a precise plan that we can look over - so we can either say "yes" or "no" based upon those questions you're posing - the additional traffic, the additional parking 8j Scott (cont'd) requirements~that are put in there, the... whatever problems we might have, what the square footage the staff feels would be ideal for those. We have the exactly the same problem in the recreational-commercial that we will decide at the precise plan stage. This is no different from that, and yet we're not asking for a parking lot determination for that or anything else. We'll make the determination at that time, and I think we can do the same thing. I think the problem between the staff and the developer is going to actually c~ver much more, make it much larger than Mr. Peterson's statement, then the intent of the Council. What I'm saying now is stating the intent of the Council, at least in broad terms and say that'we'll pin it down at the time we have the precise plan. The same thing we'll do at the recreational- commercial. Egdahl I didn't hea~, Mr. Mayor if I may, I didn't hear Mr. Peterson tell us that the developer was intending to have more than what was stated here - he just had a different idea of how he wanted to use it - what was there. Mayor Yes. Let's hear from the developer~ or his representative. Scott I don't want to hear from the developer. Hobel I think Mr. Scott made it clear when Mr. Peter- son said he was talking about other types of facilities - he said, "no, professional," and that's what I understood. Egdahl My point though was that Mr. Scot% was contending that the Planning Director said they now propose additional square footage. I'm saying he didn't say that - he said they propose to be a change of type of uses from professional buildings to convenience centers - that sort of thing. Scott Mr. Peterson, what did you say? Peterson They aren't proposing this. They've been in talking to us about the possibility of some additional re%ail footage outside the regional shopping center and I think the term used was "convenience commercial" - maybe something you would think of as a neighborhood commercial zone plus additional office space that I ~hink we did not discuss the square footage but I got the definite impression that they were talking about a magnitude much larger than the schematic indications on the map. This is what prompted me to want to take it back for clarification. Hyde Well, Mr. Mayor, the yardstick we have been using in determing the limits for development has been square footage a combination of acreage and square footage. First, we decided that inside the loop would be a grand total of 100 acres of which 20 would be open space, the remaining 80 would be for a regional shopping center. Now, we are raising the question of Hyde (cont'd) additional out buildings shall be allowed within that 80 acres. I think that in order to place a lid on concentration of development which I hope for, because to me, development means more traffic, more traffic lanes, more pollution and the whole installation we want to put a lid on. I think we should say here that, and I'll offer as an alternate, that the, as an alternate motion, that the 750,000 square feet regional shopping center that will be allowed on the 80 acres would be modified to be - the developer will be allowed to develop a regional shopping center and/or professional office facilities, gross total not to exceed 750,000 square feet. Mayor We have a motion. The motion dies for lack of second. Egdahl I'll second it for discussion purposes. Mayor It's already died; you'll have to make the motion over. Hyde You make the motion; I'll second it. Mayor I asked for the motion to be seconded, Mr. Egdahl. If I wanted to kill it, I would have done it as soon as you got it out. Egdahl I'll call the question on the motion before us. Hyde What's the motion? Mayor Read the motion, please. Clerk The motion was made by Council>man Scott. "I move that this be cleared up. The professional buildings within the 80 acres, that the map come back at the precise plan no i~igger than those put in schematic form on Exhibit "C" and we'll make a determination at that time." The motionwas seconded by Mayor Hamilton. Hyde Well, Mr. Mayor, that map has a theatre~it's got ~wo TBA's , res%auran~ and office. What are we talking about here? Certainly a theatre is not a professional office facility, so that will be automatically rejected. What are two TBA's - I have no idea. Are they going to be massage parlours or pool parlours? Peterson TBA's are Tires, Batteries and Accessories - it would be a service station type of use with automobile repair and batteries. Hyde Do we want two TBA's up there? Clerk Mr. Mayor, may we have a moment please to change the tape? Mayor Yes, we'd all like ~ha%. Let's take a recess. (The Council recezsed at 8:40 p.m. and the me~%ing reconvened at 8:50 p.m.) 81 Mayor There's been a call for the motion. Before the motion is called, I would like to ask Mr. Peterson , Director of Planning, if this motion carries, would it clarify all the questions you have asked , any questions that might be coming up that would be clear -- that for clarifications'enough for the Planning Department. Peterson I guess I'm not sure, Mr. Mayor if I understand the motion myself. So, I guess my answer to the question is probably no - at least in my own mind. Would it help if I repeated what I understand the motion to be? Mayor It might help and tellus where you might still have questions, or where the motion might be clarified. Peterson O.K. It's been indicated that there will be no retail sales outside the 750,000 square feet, and yet, I've kind of gotten the feeling that Council is prepared to accept the two Tire, Battery and Accessory usesi~and they would be retail sales, and the restaurant, of course, would be a form of retail sales as would, I guess, the theatre. My understanding is that those limited retail sales shown schematically as a blob would be acceptable...in other words, anything outside the 750,000 square feet which is about of the magnitude of the schematic smaller pink blob .... Scott That's an error, we're talking about square feet allowabl~ on the other things for professional office building. Just like they have on %he other one. They have a House of Ice and some other things up ~here that we haven't approved either, and I'm certainly not approving Tires, Batterie~ and Accessories or theatre or anything else at %his stage. Just talking about schematically the square foot coverage that is put up on that Exhibit "C". No usc other than has been discussed precisely other than a regional shopping center. Hyde Could I ask a question for clarification? Do you have any idea of the total ~quare footage that you would have in mind for such professional development? Scott No, but I would leave that up to staff to bring back - if they think this is too much, then at the precise plan, we could loDk at it then. All of these things have to be looked at again in the precise plan - thisis a general plan - it is a modification of the general plan. We're not talking about any specific uses for thes~ areas other than the regional shopping center, and there we are just talking about a regional shopping center --we're not talking about how many department stores, how many shoe stores, and so on and so forth. On any motion that we would make tonight, I think it would be clearly out of order to so indicate. Just because it has TBA up there, theatre and so on and so forth, no way as indicated by the Council on the General Plan, that will be what's going to be there. 8m Hobel Mr. Mayor, if I may, I would like to ask a question of the Director of Public Works. This refers to traffic. When you did your traffic analysis and you obviously looked at this map, did you do it on the basis of looking at the shaded areas that are in there - inside that road that ties into H Street - such as the regional shopping center, the other pink areas designated, and what traffic they might generate? Cole There was, I recall it, some counting taken of the other uses other than just the shopping center, but recognize that they are relatively small percentage of the total. But I can't precisely say that - I would have to see just how much was involved. Egdahl I would recognize the staff's difficulty in doing that - there are figures that have been generated for regional shopping centers-~p~r square foot would generate so much traffic. The other uses are so indefinite certainly not precise as we just pointed out. I don't know how in the world they could generate that... Hobel Not precise, but the fact is they were on the map. The map is to scale, and therefore, they must have given some thought to it. Hyde Well, Mr. Mayor, a question of Mr. Scott. Is this your intent that professional office facilities be allowed within this 80 acres but %he specified amount would -- no amount necessarily be specified at this time? Scott No larger than schematically shown upon the... (no mike) Hyde Well, I get hung up on those spaces up there. I'm afraid my perception will get a.li%tle b~t distorted because in the first place, the r~g~onal shopping center shows 1.2 million feet and I don't know what the size of those other areas are insquare footage, and I am concerned about the square footage because of the traffic and all that, and I just wonder about leaving the square footage figure blank simply open and the developer come in with proposals and fight them on their merit. Scott ...intent of the motion .... (no mike) Hyde Well that's already shot down so I'll abandon that. Mayor He said that no more than that be allowed. Scott Yes. It could be less. Mayor He set a limit on that like he did on the shopping center. Hyde If he limited it to just professional office facilities... Scott Well, I don't know... Hobel In the motion that I supported, it said 750,000 square feet of regional shopping center. That was the lid. Scott What we're saying here is that we're setting (no mike) a lid as far as the schematics is concerned, ~und Mr. Egdahl is concerned -even with the schematics in scale, they might go up to 11 stories... Egdahl Well, let me ask it in another way then, Mr. Mayor. Let's take the sum total of the square footage represented by the other small pink b~.obs. Suppose a person puts up a four- story building which takes up four equal square footage dimensions. All that comes out of the other pink blobs, or he can have this much square footage on one level. He builds two stories, he has to decrease the size --the ground level size. Scott I would say that I would go in for that on a (no mike) two-story basis; I don't know what would be best , one or two stories, as far as aesthetics and good planning is concerned. I would certainly put that limitation as far as two stories... That would be an upper limit .... Mayor I think that what Mr. Egdahl's question is and I think what he is saying is if you place the size of the building in one of the pink squares over there, does that cover the square footage or can they have that square footage on each floor. I think what Mr. Scott's saying is that the allowable, usable square footage is that as indicated by those pink squares, and it does not indicate up. If it goes up, then each floor has to have its own square footage - whenever you talk about a building, if i% is 45,000 square feet, it might be 10 x 45,10 stories high, but it still has 45,000 square feet. Egdahl O.K. are we talking then about ~he square footage that can cover the ground, or the square footage that can be built and occupied as usage? The indefiniteness of the motion that made me speak againt %he motion. Scott If we said no more than two stories, it would certainly - no more than up to two stories, %hen no% necessarily two stories, it would limit ~he ~quare footage and give some flexibility. I can see some disadvantage of all those being in one story. I would include that as a...is that understandable? Hyde It's understandable; but I wonder whether or not it's what you want in the final analysis. A four or five story office building nay be a very intelligent thing. Scott Of course, then what we're saying is that you can combine them all %og~.ether. Hyde No, I didn't mean that. I was think of one that would be detached ...from %he...I'll go along with the 750,000 square foot shopping center and a professional office building of some limited size. My hang-up is what's the limited square footage of it - for the whole thing? Why don't we pick an arbitrary figure subject to request for change by the applicant - say, 50,000 square 8o Hyde (cont'd) feet could be developed in professional office facilities. Scott I don't know what those are up there. Let's do it this way. You know this thing is going to go on forever - the way it always does - if it isn't the Council, it's the planning staff, so we might as well have it the Council at this time. Why don't I make a substitute motion and come back as to what exactly is the square feet in each of those squares and What's the square footage for the entire, those schematics, and at that time, we can address ourselves to that question, as single story. I would move that we bring this back next week and find out exactly how much square feet there out in those schematics (pink - or blobs as they have been so gloringly described this evening), and know exactly what we're talking about. Egdahl It sounds very much like a motion I made and got no second on it. I'll second that. asked Scott YSu/for a parking study too, which is the reason I didn't go for it. Mayor We have a motion and a second. Under discussion. Does the staff feel this can be accomplished next Tuesday night by the Council, or do you think we should have a Council Conference on it? Peterson No, I don't see why that couldn't be handled easily next Tuesday. Hobel Mr. Mayor, before I vote, I would like to ask Mr. Peterson - now, do you feel that all the other questions you raised have been answered? Peterson Yes, I do. Hyde No retail outside the shopping ¢~nter, right? Peterson This is a substitute motion for that one, I think. Mayor That d~¢ision will be made next week. Item carried. City Council Meeting 9 November 19, 1974 MAYOR'S COMMENTS Congratulations to the Mayor Hamilton and the Council congratulated City Clerk the City Clerk upon her achieving the title of "Certified Municipal City Clerk," as announced today by the International Institute of Municipal Clerks. Executive Session It was moved by Mayor Hamilton, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that an Executive Session be called at the close of the meeting for personnel reasons. COUNCIL CO~ENTS AIRPORT QUESTION Councilman Hobel noted that the Council's position was against Brown Field and reten- tion of Lindbergh Field. There are now two alternatives for Lindbergh for expansion. He asked for Council's clarification on this point. Motion for direction It was moved by Councilman Scott, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that this decision be left to Councilman Hob¢l as far as the expansion question goes, unless he f~els he needs specific direction. gouncilman Hobel reported that San Diego has asked for a continuance and the matter will be back before CPO in February. A research of the alternatives should be made in the interim period. SIGN FOR CITY HALL Councilman Hobel commented that there are identification signs in the Civic Center complex for the Library and Police facili- ties, but none for thc City Hall. Referred to staff It was moved by Councilman }tobel, seconded by Councilman ~dahl and unanimously carried that the staff be directed to investigate proper sign for the City Hall and the cost of such sign. DOG LICENSE FEE Councilman Hyde said he received a complaint from a resident concerning the increased dog license fee. Motion for reconsideration It was moved by Councilman Hyde and seconded by Councilman Egdahl that the fees adopted for the dog licensing schedule be reconsidered. This is to be put on the next City Council meeting (November 26). Motion carried The motion carried by the following vote, to-wit: AYES: Councilmen Hyde~ Egdahl, Scott, Hobel Noes: Mayor Hamilton Absent: None City Council Meeting 10 November 19, 1974 RADIO ANTENNAE Councilman Hyde discussed Council action taken at a previous meeting (October 2, 1973) in which the staff was directed to prepare an amendmentto the Zoning Ordinance which would require permits for installation of transmitter antennae for various electronic systems. Administrative Analyst Greg Smith explained that this matter will be back before the Council on December 10. CAT PROBLEM Councilman Egdahl reported that he received several complaints concerning the problem of cats and suggestions were made to require a license of the cat-owners~ Referred to staff It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, seconded by Mayor Hamilton and unanimously carried that the staff be directed to report back to the Council as to the approach that can be taken to deal with this growing problem. Mayor Hamilton directed this report to the City Attorney. WRITTEN CO~4UNICATIONS Letter of resignation from Mr. Smith submitted his resignation from Board of Appeals - Wayne Smith the Board of Appeals indicating his reason as being appointed to the Planning Commission. Resignation accepted It was moved by Councilman Hyde, seconded by Councilman Egdahl and unanimously carried that the resignation be accepted and a letter of thanks sent to Mr. Smith for his services on this Board. Request from Starlight Yule The Sweetwater Union High School District Parade Committee for blocking and Chula Vista Downtown Association of certain streets on December will hold its annual Starlight Yule Parade 2, 1974 on December 2 at 7:00 p.m. They asked for permission to block Third Avenue from "I" to "D" Streets and assistance from the Police Reserve Unit. The Parade Committee also invited the Mayor and Councilmen to ride in the parade. Request granted It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the request be granted. Councilmen Hobel and Hyde stated they would ride in the parade. Letter of resignation - Mrs. Marry Price submitted her resignation Marty Price - International from the IFC stating that additional pressures Friendship Commission in her personal and professional life forces her to readjust priorities at this time. Accepted with regret It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, seconded by Councilman Scott and unanimously carried that the resignation be accepted with regret and a letter of thanks sent to Mrs. Price for her services on this Commission. City Council Meeting 11 November 19, 1974 Request from County's Law Mr. R. B. James, Coordinator, asked for and Justice Coordinator this City's participation in a task force for participation in task effort which will analyze the taxi force for taxi industry industry regulation. The task force regulation will consist of a representative of each of the incorporated cities in the county which will review the entire spectrum of governmental-taxi industry relationships. City Manager assigned It was moved by Councilman Hyde, seconded by Councilman Hobel and unanimously carried that the City Manager or his appointed representative be appointed to this task force. Request for sidewalk sale - Estella's Fashions, 250 Third Avenue, Estella's Fashions requested permission to have a sidewalk sale on November 22 and 23, 1974. City Manager Thomson recommended denial based on starting a precedent and for safety reasons. Request denied It was moved by Councilman Egdahl, seconded by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the request be denied based on the fact that it would be a precedent-setting action, and the policy of the Council is to allow area sidewalk sales as opposed to individual sales for promotional events. RECESS TO REDEVELOPMENT Mayor Hamilton closed the meeting at 9:24 p.m. AGENCY MEETING to the Redevelopment Agency meeting. The meeting reconvened at 9:42 p.m. EXECUTIVE SESSION The Council recessed to Executive Session at 9:42 p.m. and the meeting reconvened at 10:27 p.m. APPOINTMEN~STO BOARDS It was moved by Councilman Hobel, seconded AND COMMISSIONS by Councilman Hyde and unanimously carried that the following app0intmentsbe made: Board of Appeals - Ahmet L. Kaya International Friendship Commission - Mrs. Martha S. Crouch Environmental Control Commission - Paul Santoro and reappointments of - Robert Hastings Paul Legler Mayor Hamilton asked that a letter of thanks be sent to all who;came in for interviews. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Hamilton adjourned the meeting at 10:50 p.m. to the meeting scheduled for Tuesday, November 26, 1974 and to the Council Bus Tour scheduled for Saturday, November 23, 1974. f ' CitylCle~k J