HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 2004/06/17City of Chula Vista
Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes
Thursday - 6:30 p.m.
Public Works Operations Lunch Room
Meeting called to order by Vice - Chair, Don Salcido at 6:31
Staff Present: Buck Martin, Director of Recreation
Dave Byers, Director of Public Works Operations
Ed Hall, Principal Recreation Manager
Larry Eliason, Parks and Open Space Manager
Ted Nelson, Recreation Supervisor III
June 17, 2004
1800 Maxwell Road
Guests: Veleria Fabisak, Chula Vista Resident
Linda Carrington, Chula Vista Resident
Mayor Kellejian, City of Solana Beach
Pearl Smith, Recreation Supervisor, City of Solana Beach
Roll Call /Motion to Excuse
Members Present: Commissioner Salcido, Commissioner Ramos, Commissioner Strahl,
and Commissioner Rios
Members Absent: Chair Perondi, Commissioner Rude, and Commissioner Weidner
MSC (Rios /Ramos Vote 4- 0 -0 -0) to excuse Commissioner Rude and Commissioner
Weidner from tonight's meeting
MSC (Rios /Ramos Vote 3 -0 -1 -0 Strahl opposed because it is frustrating to not have
meetings because of not having a quorum, and if you volunteer for public service, then
they should meet their obligations) to excuse Chair Perondi from tonight's meeting.
MSC (Strahl /Ramos Vote 4 -0 -0 -3 Perondi, Rude, and Weidner absent) to move item 3a
out of order
3. a. Solana Beach Ecology Camp Program (Mayor Kellejian and Pearl Smith,
Recreation Supervisor) - Mayor Kellejian of Solana Beach talked briefly about the
Ecology Camp Program in Solana Beach. Mayor Kellejian covered the following points:
• Natural resources (i.e., parks, ocean, and lagoons) in Solana Beach were
identified
• A Summer Ecology Program was developed and implemented
• This program allows young kids to understand, explore, and appreciate the
environment and recycling program
• Summer Ecology Program was endorsed by the Parks and Recreation
Commission of Solana Beach
• Each session has 65 kids enrolled and the cost is $85
• Full Cost Recovery Program
• Ecology Auto Wrecking helps with funding for scholarships for this program
Ms. Pearl Smith, Recreation Supervisor from Solana Beach discussed the Solana Beach
Summer Ecology Camp Program:
• The goal of the day is to develop the knowledge of the community and heighten
children's awareness of the wealth of natural resources in Solana Beach
• The program is successful with the combined expertise from educators and
teachers
• The curriculum presents a wide variety of ecological experiences
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• Each day camp is 5 -days, and includes a field trip, variety of games, hikes, close
up look at animals that inhabit the area
• Interpretive walks to the San Elijo Lagoon Conservancy are conducted, and
campers are taught the importance of protecting the environment
• The program is for children first grade through junior high school
• The Ecology Summer Day Camp is successful through collaborative with other
municipalities
• Leader in Training Program offers work experience through the Summer Day
Camp Program
• This program is age appropriate for youths 13 to 15 years of age, and are
provided with on- the -job training and learn positive work habits
• Ms. Smith distributed information on the program for the Commissioners and staff
Mr. Martin (Director of Recreation) informed the Commission that the Department
had been given direction to look into this program, and that staff would follow -up
with Solana Beach to develop a program within the City. Mr. Martin further stated
that he thought that this is a great opportunity for the City.
The Commission thanked Mayor Kellijian and Ms. Smith for their presentation
MSC (Strahl /Ramos 4 -0 -0 -0 Perondi, Rude, and Weidner absent) to move Item 9 Public Comment
out of order
9. Public Comment
Ms. Veleria Fabisak, a resident of Chula Vista presented a video entitled Shane's
Inspiration, play equipment for parks for special needs kids.
• Ms. Fabisak lives near EastLake Vistas Park
• Would like to see this type of play equipment in Chula Vista parks
• Chula Vista parks are ADA accessible, however, they do not have play
equipment where kids with severe physical disabilities could utilize
• Fund raiser on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 to raise funds for this type of play
equipment
• Shane's Inspiration is play equipment that kids with all abilities could use, and not
just for kids with physical disabilities
Commissioner Strahl thanked Ms. Fabisak for bringing it to the attention of the
Commission that play equipment for physically challenged kids is needed in parks being
built, and asked if it would be beneficial to the community to have one park with this
type of equipment, or if numerous parks should have only 1 or 2 pieces of play
equipment. In addition, Mr. Strahl encouraged Ms. Fabisak to apply to be a member of
the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Ms. Fabisak responded that it would be beneficial to the community to have one park or
two parks that has this type of play equipment. For example two parks that would
benefit the community with Shane's Inspiration play equipment are Greg Rogers Park,
and Salt Creek Park. In addition, Ms. Fabisak encouraged the Commission and City to
budget additional money for play equipment for physically challenged kids.
Commissioner Strahl requested information on current ADA compliance accessible play
equipment, and requested that information for the next meeting.
Mr. Martin (Director of Recreation) informed the Commission that he met with Ms. Linda
Carrington to discuss the possibilities of enhancing park equipment that's in Greg Rogers
Park.
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Ms. Linda Carrington talked to the Commission about Greg Rogers Elementary �)cnooi,
and encouraged the Commission to endorse requests for play equipment for special
needs children. Ms. Carrington also invited the Commission to visit Greg Rogers
Elementary School.
Action Items
a. Approval of Minutes of March 18, 2004 - Table to July meeting.
b. Commissioner Strahl's request that the City Council appoint a staff person to
oversee golf course issues relating to the operation of the Chula Vista Golf Course
MSC (Strahl /Rios Vote 2 -1 -1 -3 Rude, Weidner, and Perondi Absent; Ramos
abstained because not enough information available to make a sound decision
on this topic; Salcido opposed because he does not feel comfortable in the City
allocating resources for this position) that while the Commission is aware of the
very recent improvements in the condition and operation of the Chula Vista
Municipal Golf Course it has not forgotten the years and years of neglect,
mismanagement, staff's failure to monitor and enforce the contract between
American Golf and the City of Chula Vista, and the frustration of the users of this
facility to bring these conditions to the attention of both American Golf and
Chula Vista city staff. We believe that very recent improvements to the golf
course should be supported by structural changes that better reflect specifically
who is responsible for monitoring the contract between American Golf and the
City of Chula Vista, and open ways for users of this facility to have input regarding
current operations and future improvements and plans. We strongly believe that
the current placement of the Chula Vista Municipal Golf Course within the
structure of City government is inappropriate and creates confusion and
misunderstandings for both the users of this facility and the general public.
Without these changes we believe that the very recent improvements will be
temporary. Therefore, we recommend that Council direct the City Manager to
designate one person responsible for monitoring all aspects of the contract
between American Golf and the City. We request that his person be given a
specific title and designation that reflects this position, i.e., Manager of Golf
Course Operations, Director of Golf, etc., and that this person's responsibilities be
clearly defined within the City's staff organizational structure. We also
recommend that this person form an advisory group composed of the major
stakeholders that use this facility and a member of the Parks and Recreation
Commission, that that this group meet on a regularly scheduled bases to provide
feedback and input into the current operation and future plans for this facility.
Commissioner Rios asked what the major issue is now with regards to the Golf
Course, or is this motion to prevent a major issue from arising.
Commissioner Strahl responded that he believes that the horrible conditions that
the golf course is in is due to the fact there wasn't one person in charge of the
golf course. Also, information received regarding the golf course is received from
the Recreation Department, Public Works Operations Department, the City
Manager's Office, and the City Attorney's Office. In addition, he stated that
wants to encourage the Council to take a look at this motion, and make a
decision as to whether they want to follow this direction of appointing a staff
person as the point of contact for all golf course issues.
Commissioner Rios asked if the position in question was a full -time person or
position, and wanted to confirm if that person would oversee the issues and /or
questions that arise from the golf course.
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Commissioner Strahl responded that yes, this position would be a full -time position,
and would be involved in golf course issues. In addition, that appointed staff
person could be a staff member currently involved in the golf course issues.
Commissioner Ramos asked about the ad -hoc committee this person would
create for the golf course.
Commissioner Strahl responded that he recommends that the staff person create
a committee, much like the Youth Sports Council, that would advise the
Commission on golf course issues. He further stated that there have been serious
problems at the golf course for many years. In addition, he stated that he has
been a member since 1970; president of the golf club, in 1982, 1983, and 1992,
and served on the board of directors for 15 years; and was part of the ad -hoc
committee that was formed to review the contract that was given to the City in
1985, and only until very recently, staff has been enforcing that contract, but for
years, that contract was not being enforced. He also stated that he approached
the Council on two occasions regarding this issue.
Commissioner Salcido stated that his concern with appointing a staff person to
oversee the golf course and develop a committee is that the committee will work
if that staff member has strong coordination skills and positive work qualities. In
addition, he stated that he does not see this action as a long -term remedy to the
issues taking place with the golf course.
Commissioner Strahl responded that this action is what the golf course needs and
that the short -term issues are taken care of, and this position would be a positive
attribute for the long -term issues facing the golf course. Currently, there is a great
deal of confusion as to who to approach with regards to issues having to do with
the golf course.
Commissioner Saicido wanted to make it known that this motion was information
to the City Council only.
Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works Operations) referred to the Information Item
given to the City Council and stated that the City Manager's Office, City
Attorney's Office, and Public Works Operations Department are involved in
ensuring that American Golf complies with the lease. Furthermore, he stated that
currently, they are not in compliance with the lease. Mr. Byers went on to say
that hopefully at some point when they are in compliance with the lease, then
Public Works Operations would ensure that they comply with the lease. There are
instances when, they are not complying, and the City Attorney's Office has to get
involved because of legality issues.
Commissioner Strahl asked how long there have been problems with the lease.
Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works Operations) responded a long time.
Commissioner Strahl commented that he has known that there have been
problems with the lease and American Golf not being in compliance for a long
time. In addition, Commissioner Strahl asked who from the City is going to stand
up and say, "my department is responsible for the golf course."
Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works Operations) responded that currently, his
department is responsible to make sure that American Golf abides by the lease.
However, without the City Attorney's advice, he cannot say that they are or are
not in compliance.
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Commissioner Strahl stated he wants the Council to decide who will oversee the
operation of the golf course. He also stated that he understands, that the
Commission is an advisory group and therefore, the Parks and Recreation
Commission are advising the City Council.
Commissioner Strahl stated that because this motion did not pass, could it be
brought back,
Ms. Nora Smyth (Deputy City Attorney) responded that if could not be brought
back because the item was voted down, and could only be brought back by
someone who was not present, or voted opposite from Commissioner Strahl. In
addition, Ms. Smyth stated that she would research this motion, and provide a
response via a memorandum for the July meeting.
C. Commissioner Strahl's request to establish a Golf Course Committee and report to
Parks and Recreation Commission -
Commissioner Strahl stated that he wanted to strike item 2c from tonight's
agenda, and apologized to staff for misspeaking on this subject. He further
stated that he is aware of his advisory capacity in the commission. In addition, by
no means did he want to create a committee and have that committee report
to the Commission, since it is far from the scope of work of the Commission. In
addition, he wanted to go on record and make it clear, that he misspoke or
misunderstood, when he requested a copy of the said report to come before the
Commission, and wanted to clarify the issue.
MSC (Strahl /Rios Vote 4 -0 -0 -3 Rude, Weidner, and Perondi Absent) to strike item
2c from the Agenda.
3. Information Items
b. Parking Issues at Harborside Elementary/CV Little League - Mr. Martin (Director of
Recreation) reported that staff has been working with the County of San Diego to
alleviate parking issues for said subject. Staff came -up with the solution, working
closely with the school district, County of San Diego Health and Human Services, and
Greg Cox's office and, an agreement was developed for use of the parking lot by
the CV Little League.
c. Draft - Parks and Recreation Commission Year -end Report - Mr. Martin (Director of
Recreation) provided the Commission with the Year -end Report to the City Council,
and the Commission's note to Council.
Commissioner Strahl requested that his item "Commissioner Strahl's request to
establish a Golf Course Committee and report to Parks and Recreation Commission"
be stricken from the report
d. Chula Vista Community Park Field Closure - Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works
Operations) distributed pictures of work being done at Chula Vista Community Park
fields. The park is being shut down for 4- months, to get the fields back into shape.
e. Chula Vista Girls Fast Pitch Softball - Mr. Martin (Director of Recreation) briefly
discussed the funding that was granted for the four Orange Avenue Ball Fields for the
Youth Sports Council use. A list was developed and has been prioritized by staff on
improvements that need to be done.
f. Requests by American Golf Corporation for a Greens Fee Increase - Mr. Byers
(Director of Public Works) informed the Commission that staff was working on a Green
Fees Increase request received from American Golf. Mr. Byers discussed the process
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of the analysis that was conducted by staff i.e., comparisons to other goat courses on
revenue, expenditures on maintenance, etc. Discussion held on American Golf
increasing the level of maintenance at the golf course and spending more money for
maintenance. Mr. Byers further stated that staff is recommending against the greens
fee increase because there isn't any way of measuring the maintenance of the golf
course to other golf courses.
Commissioner Salcido expressed his concern with the Greens Fee Increase and to
advise the City Council against the green fee increase unless American Golf is in
compliance with their contract.
Commissioner Strahl requested that any proposed rate increase be posted at the
golf course for information before going to the Commission and going into effect.
g. Chula Vista Live Steamers Expansion and donation increase - Mr. Martin (Director of
Recreation) informed the Commission that a request was received from the Chula
Live Steamers to increase the donation from $.25 to $.50 per ride. The increase
request is necessary to offset the cost of increased liability insurance fees. Mr. Martin
stated that he approved the increase.
Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works) discussed the expansion of the railroad at Rohr
Park. Previously, the expansion included moving and increasing the track size closer
to the homes adjacent to the park. Subsequently, residents complained that neither
public noticing nor an EIR had been done. Staff determined that the track should be
moved away from the homes (100 - 110 ft away from the fence).
4. Unfinished Business -
a. Commission Field Trip - Tentative date for the Commission Field trip is July 17,
2004. Margarita will coordinate this effort, and advise the other commission
members.
5. New Business -
a. Council Information Item dated April 27, 2004 - Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works
Operations) informed the Commission that the Information Item regarding Chula
Vista Municipal Golf Course was an update sent to the Council.
Commissioner Strahl asked that when the Assistant City Manager meets with the
Men's and Women's Club, could a member of the Commission attend?
Mr. Byers responded that he would investigate and get back to him.
Commission Strahl asked about additional information items that have been
submitted to the City Council regarding the golf course, and also asked for the
most recent information item to council regarding the golf course, and asked
how often these items are submitted to the Council.
Mr. Byers responded that he did not know how often the information items are
submitted, and that he would find out about the most recent information item to
Council regarding the golf course.
Commissioner Strahl stated and suggested that when the interior plans are ready
for the Club House that the plans be presented to solicit public input or comment
for color choices, etc. In addition, Mr. Strahl stated that the "Club House" isn't the
right name for the building.
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Commissioner Strahl commented on the section of the information item titled
"Course Supervision ", where it reads, the Manager's office had been actively
engaged in overseeing a major lease compliance issue, and asked if it was only
a single issue.
Mr. Byers responded that he thought they were several issues (including
maintenance), but would investigate.
Commissioner Strahl asked for clarification under the section, Meeting with
Men's /Women's Club Representatives, since the inception of the compliance
process
Mr. Byers responded that he believes that they refer to the detailed inspections
that Mr. Tom Class conducts on a monthly basis.
Commissioner Strahl asked if prior to the detailed inspections conducted by Mr.
Tom Class if the inspections being conducted were compliance inspections or
processes that were being followed.
Mr. Byers responded that inspections were being conducted, but were not
detailed in nature as they are now.
Commissioner Strahl commented that the City was aware that the American Golf
was not in compliance according to these inspections.
Mr. Byers responded that he did not know who was or wasn't aware of the
compliance issues.
b. Written Communications - None
Commission Comments -
a. Commissioner Rios stated that he was moved by both presentations at tonight's
meeting.
b. Commissioner Strahl stated that he concurs with Commissioner Rios.
8. Staff Comments -
a. Recreation Monthly Report - Mr. Martin (Director of Recreation) reviewed the
monthly report, and stated that EastLake Middle School and Bonita Middle
School will be participating in the Club TC program.
b. Public Works Operations - Mr. Byers (Director of Public Works) stated that Mr.
Eliason was promoted permanently to Parks and Open Space Manager on
May 14.
c. General Services - None
Meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m. to the next Commission meeting on July 15, 2004
Submitted by: Margarita Cellano, Recording Secretary