HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 2002/10/17City of Chula Vista
Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes
Thursday — 6:00 p.m. October 17, 2002
Public Works Ctr 1800 Maxwell Rd
Meeting Called to Order by Chair Lauren Weidner at 6:10.m.
1. Roll Call /Motion to Excuse
Members Present: Commissioner Salcido, Chair Weidner, Commissioner Rude,
Commissioner Perondi, Commissioner Ramos, and Commissioner
Strahl
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Buck Martin, Director of Recreation
Sunny Shy, Assistant Recreation Director
Dave Byers, Deputy Director /Public Works Operations
Andy Campbell, Director of Building and Parks Construction
Mary Hofmockel, Principal Landscape Architect
John Krizan, Landscape Architect
Patricia Ferman, Landscape Planner
Ed Hall, Principal Recreation Manager
Brian Cox, Principal Recreation Manager
Catherine Burciaga, Office of Budget and Analysis
Richard Zumwalt, Planning Department
Guests:
2. Approval of Minutes
a. August 15, 2002 — MSC (Pero ndi /Salcido) — Vote — 5 -0 -0 -0
b. September 19, 2002 — MSC (Rude /Salcido) — Vote — 5 -0 -1 -1 (Perondi Abstained)
Information Items
Presentation by Cathy Burciaga of Budget and Analysis on RecDIF. Function is to
decide /determine ways to fund the parks once costs are determined. Slide show presentation
and explanation of why increase came about and why it is needed. Ms. Burciaga presented the
executive summary.
In response to a question from Ms. Weidner, Director Campbell explained that the additional
amount is driven by the fact that we've seen an increase in per household occupants. That's
why the fees exceed 100%
Having no additional comments, the commission thanked staff for their presentation.
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Live Steamers
Scott Lewis, representing Live Steamers noted that he had no objection to postponing the
railroad expansion until the end of soccer season (January 2003), as long as they would be able
to start on the expansion then, with no other delays.
Commissioner Strahl asked about the safety of users in the area because of the possibility of
errant golf balls. Ms. Weidner referred the question to staff to look at the appropriateness of
fencing at the park and report back at the next meeting.
The Commission also asked if the horse rink would stay in the new the master plan. Director
Campbell noted at this point, it would.
MSUC (Rude /Salcido) to accept staff report and recommendations.
Neighborhood Park at Sunbow
Discussion centered naming the park and lighting of the fields.
Commission concerned about storage area for soccer equipment and field lighting for soccer
area, why were these left out?
Staff responded that there would be a pad available for storage; it would not be permanent
The environmental section had reviewed the lighting for baseball fields. Staff would need to
look at lighting in that (soccer field) section and need to analyze or revisit the EIR. Budgetary
reasons also kept them from adding to the amenities. Sunny noted that the baseball fields are
usually lighted because a lot of recreation programs use the fields; this brings in revenue for the
department.
Staff also reminded the commission that an EIR had been done. If they wanted to specifically
change lighting, a new EIR may have to be done. Additionally, the area where the soccer field
is placed may not be feasible to light, as the field is too close to housing in the area.
The Commission expressed concern over the safety of the tiered skate park area and also
asked if the park would be fenced. Consultant responded that an expert in the skate rink field,
who has helped design skate parks all over the world, designed the park. There would be no
fencing around the skate park.
In response to a question from the Commission regarding the dog run area security, staff
responded that the area would be double gated, to keep dogs from getting out when another
user is coming in. There are plans for two different dog areas; one to accommodate large and
one to accommodate small dogs.
Discussion turned to naming of the park.
Chair Weidner said she was ok with the name "Veterans' Park"
Chair Weidner asked if the flagpole would be lit and if there was a veterans theme to the park.
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Sunny responded yes to the flagpole and explained that the "Heroes' Walk" was developed at
the request of the veterans.
Mr. AY Casillas made two points:
Why is the name of the park an issue when most residents at the community meeting
expressed their desire to name it Veterans' Park and
He does not like the name "Heroes' Walk" It is very subjective and can be ultimately used
for anyone considered a "hero ", depending on who you speak to. (Le., a sports nut may
want an athlete named in the walk.) It should be an honors walk for those with a
background in the community.
Mr. Bob White noted that at all community meetings, except the third, the vote was unanimous
to name the park Veterans' Park. At the last meeting, the vote was 15 to 1. He finds the word
"hero" distasteful and thinks the park should encompass Police, Fire and Military personnel.
Messer's. Dan Murray, Bobby Price, and Steve Miliken voiced their support of the name
Veterans' Park; it goes along with the footprint of the area.
Mr. Walter Smith, a resident of the Veterans' Home, suggested the walk be called the "Walk of
Honor"
Commissioner Strahl: Likes the name Veterans' Park
Commissioner Rude: Concurs
Commissioner Ramos: Concurs. Also noted that AYSO can help with funding on lights at
soccer field.
Chair Weidner: Asked how many lit softball fields there were v soccer fields. Hall
responded there are 7 lit softball fields with 3 overlays for soccer. There are no dedicated lit
soccer fields.
Chair Weidner noted she also supports name of Veterans' Park. Stated that in fairness to the
developer she was reading the list of proposed names for the park submitted by Sunbow. Chair
Weidner noted that the names submitted had nothing to do with the community and all had
" Sunbow" in them; personally, she found this insulting. She also suggested including the Coast
Guard as part of those who would be honored. Then again, voiced her concern about more lit
softball fields. She would like the soccer field lit.
Commissioner Perondi: Said it was a great design; he was also concerned about lighting.
Commissioner Salcido: Suggested "Patriots Park ". Said he won't approve anything without
lighting of fields and adequate storage facilities for the soccer area.
Ms. Hofmockel (Principal Landscape Architect) noted motion approved only if field is lit, staff has
to do research and may have to come back in November. As far as funding for lights, the
commission would have to select something to remove from the park. Responded to questions
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that the standard cost to install lights on a basketball court would be about $70,000, the cost of
lighting a softball field is about $150K; a multi -use would be around $100K
Commissioner Salcido: Would not support without lighted multi -use field
Commissioner Rude: Supports additional lighting
Commissioner Ramos: Considers lighting for soccer important, possibly switch the lighting
from the baseball field to the soccer field.
Commissioner Perondi: OK with switching lighting, supports 1 field being lit
Commissioner Strahl: Will not support without lighting
Chair Weidner: Commission needs more information and options so they can get it
(the plan) right the first time. She asked staff to look into the possibility that the EIR would be
violated and if not, what would they have to give up in the plans to get the field lit?
Mr. Richard Zumwalt (Planning Department) Noted the EIR would have to be amended and
explained the process.
MSC (Salcido /Rude) to name the park Veterans' Park (5 -0 -1 Strahl opposed)
Mr. White asked for a clarification of the motion.
Weidner stated the "walk" would be designated as the "Walk of Honor ". The motion that just
passed was to name the park exclusively.
Mr. White asked if they (veteran representatives) should come back to the subsequent
meetings.
MSC (Salcido /Rude) to designate the "Walk of Honor" to include the five branches of the
service, and Police and Fire Personnel)
AY Casillas, thanked Commission, pointed out that other agencies can honor other "heroes ", it
was wise decision to limit the walk to those branches named.
Appointment of Francisco Rios to Commission.
Mr. Rios stated he would take the oath of office at the October 22 Council meeting.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Strahl asked about the status of security lighting at the golf course. He also
asked for copies of the inspections and the report by Jim Allen. Mr. Byers (Public Works
Operations) stated that the report was not available to the public yet as it was being used in
negotiations. As soon as it was released, he would make it available to the commission.
Commissioner Strahl also asked when the Rohr Master Plan would be done and requested a
copy of the current Master Plan.
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Chair Weidner asked about Jerry Foncerrada and Sunny Shy's retirement. What was going to
be done? What had commissions done in the past? She would like the commission to
recognize him with a plaque or resolution.
Adjournment at 9:15 p.m. to the scheduled meeting of November 21, 2002 at 6:30 p.m. in the
Mercy Building Conference Room.
Submitted by:
Alice Kemp, Administrative Secretary
Public Works Operations