HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 2002/05/16City of Chula Vista
Parks and Recreation Commission
Minutes
Thursday - 6:30 p.m. May 16, 2002
Mercy Building 430 F Street CV
Director Martin introduced Commissioner Bob Strahl to the Commission.
Roll Call Radcliffe P, Rude P Salcido P, Weidner P Ramos A and
Perondi P, Strahl P
Commissioner Ramos requested to be excused from tonight's meeting.
Chair Weidner stated that with the majority of the commissioners that are present at tonight's meeting,
that she is inclined to go forward and approve the minutes out of necessity and feels that there is
sufficient urgency in the approval of those minutes.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES of March 27, 2002 - MSUC (Weidner /Rude) (Ramos Absent) 4 -0 -1 -1 to approve the
minutes with the correction of removing the last sentence from the 3,d to last paragraph on page 3.
Future Commission Workshop - Director Martin talked about holding a commission workshop to develop
and prepare a Parks and Recreation Comrnission Mission, Purpose, Goals and Objectives for the future.
Staff will meet with the City's Organizational and Development Team Office and discuss this process so
that they can serve as facilitators. Director Martin also stated that a request from the Growth
Management Oversight Commission (GMOC) was received, and they have requested a workshop with
the Parks and Recreation Commission to discuss each commission's respective role in regards to
recreation planning, park development, and emphasizing how these roles are complimentary. In
addition, to provide an opportunity to discuss shared expectations and have a better understanding of
the Parks Master Plan.
2. Information Items -
a. Park Development Process
Principal Landscape Architect Hofmockel talked about the process and progress that has
been made as it pertains to park development, and also discuss future community workshops.
Ms. Hofmockel introduced Landscape Architect, John Krizan of her staff, and asked him to
provide information on the park development process of tonight's presentation.
Landscape Architect Krizan stated that architects from KTU +A and Van Dyke and Associates
would be talking about the park development process on two parks ( Sunbow and Eastlake
Trails). Van Dyke and Associates will be presenting Sunbow Park, and KTU + A will be
presenting Eastlake Trails Park.
Mr. Krizan explained that two public workshops had been held with the community. Mr. Krizan
explained that at the first public workshop, staff explained the preliminary program elements
of the parks. In addition, Mr. Krizan explained that a recreational needs analysis was
conducted, which projected the recreational needs over the future parks coming on -line
through the year 2020. This helped staff identify programming elements for parks. Mr. Krizan
explained the process of the second workshop. In addition, Mr. Krizan stated that staff would
return to the Commission with a recommendation and explain the concerns raised by the
community, and explain how staff addressed those concerns.
Van Dyke and Associates talked about the neighborhood analysis conducted. He further
explained that the public workshops were conducted to develop and gather information
from the community to personalize the park, refine the programming of the park, prioritize
program elements, and suggest possible names for the park. This analysis identified the
opportunities and constraints of the neighborhood, community landmarks, architectural
landmarks, barriers, and views, and compiled it into a graphic and written analysis of the
opportunities of the park site. He further explained that the City identified preliminary park
programs based on the Recreational Needs Analysis for 2020. This information was categorized
into a chart to figure out how much use each program element would take. This program
chart was presented to the community and their input was requested to identify additional
program elements for the park.
Discussion held on program elements, which were categorized as: required elements, high
ranked additional elements, and low ranked additional elements. Three concept scenarios
were presented at the second workshop. Discussion held on the three park concepts
presented.
Commissioner Radcliffe stated that she likes the play equipment in Voyager Park, and also
likes the play equipment in Pepper Grove Park by Balboa Park.
Assistant Director of Recreation Shy stated that some play equipment is not created or
designed for the older aged child. There are good companies that develop play equipment
such as rock - climbing walls. Ms. Shy stated that the Department has asked and challenged
the developers to create a balance of play equipment for older and younger children.
Discussion held on fund - raising for commemorative brick for the Hero's Walk.
KTU + A talked about EastLake Trails Park that is located by Hunte Parkway on North Creekside
Drive. Discussion held on site analysis, and how elements are laid out. In addition, discussion
held on having the gymnasium element serving as a focal point to the park. Three park
options discussed and were categorized as: Olympic Sports Park, Ranch Theme, and Meadow
theme. Park program elements were provided based on all the facilities and infrastructures
throughout the community. Elements include, parking for 200 cars, 20,000 sq. ft. facility, teen
annex with storage, and an informal skate facility, basketball, tot -lots, etc. Discussion held on
each park theme, and their program elements.
Discussion held on the main concern of the community, which is parking issues with the little
league fields.
Ms. Hofmockel talked about parking issue /element, and stated that staff provided information
(on Sunbow Park), on the parking situation on the maximum parking spaces needed at parks.
From the information provided, it was concluded that 400 parking spaces were needed,
which amounts to be 2/3 of the 10 -acre park site that would be converted to a parking lot.
This would mean that certain park elements would be removed. Ms. Hofmockel stated that it
was decided at a Policy Group Meeting that she attended, that the City would use the
parking standards that the City of San Diego uses, which are 200 parking spaces is the
minimum at parks.
Ms. Hofmockel stated that she wanted to clarify the park development process. A while back,
the Commission notified staff that the Commission wanted to be involved in the process of the
park development /alternative. Ms. Hofmockel stated that the concern that she had was
providing the Commission with the proper park alternative. If the Commission feels that it is
beneficial having the consultants provide a presentation on park alternatives, then it needs to
be done outside of a public meeting, because then this would be labeled as a particular park
approval. Discussion held on scheduling a commission workshop that is open only to the
commission, staff and consultants to assist in understanding the park development process.
Deputy Director Byers stated that that route is not recommended because the Commission
cannot meet and exclude the public, but the Commission can still have a workshop.
Commissioner Radcliffe stated that she prefers the workshops to review a park alternative and
provide comments.
Commissioner Perondi stated that he prefers a commission meeting type of a forum such as
tonight's meeting.
Chair Weidener stated that it's important to have community imput. However, Chair Weidner
stated that she wants to be involved in the planning process before a final plan is chosen, and
also stated that she would like to see the hard copies of the plans.
Chair Weidner also stated that she found it a bit frustrating this evening that the Commission
could not choose a park alternative because of the forum. In addition, Chair Weidner stated
that she understands that staff is going to review the process, and that staff will return with a
preferred park alternative, which will only be one plan.
Ms. Hofmockel responded that when staff returns to the Commission in the future, they will
return with one preferred alternative with staff recommendation. Ms. Hofmockel also stated
the consultant will prepare the preferred park alternative for recommendation to the City
Council. In addition, Ms. Hofmockel stated that she did not present this as "Sunbow Park" or
"Eastlake Trails Park" Workshop because it wasn't clear if this forum would be a public
workshop. She also stated that she wanted to make the Commission aware of issues that the
community brought up.
Commissioner Radcliffe stated that it is important to have Commission imput at this level.
Commissioner Rude stated that she would likes this type of forum, and then . participating in a
public workshop with the community.
Ms. Hofmockel responded that staff already held public workshops whereby information was
gathered. Staff notifies the community that staff will return to the second workshop with
conceptual ideas of how their comments layout.
Commissioner Strahl stated that he would like to see staff's recommendation on a park
alternative for recommendation to the Council. In addition, Commissioner Strahl stated that
he wants to see staff's recommendation, and explain why a _ particular alternative was
chosen, and explain why certain elements are laid out the way they are. He also stated that
he relies on staff's expertise to provide information to the Commission.
Ms. Hofmockel reiterated that staff would return to the Commission with the preferred
alternative that would be presented to the Council
Commissioner Perondi stated that he would like to see three concepts prior to the meeting;
and would like to have explanation on why staff has picked a particular alternative.
Commissioner Salcido would like to see the final park plan or alternative with explanation on
why this alternative is being recommended.
Commissioner Radcliffe stated that she wants to be involved in the planning process.
Consensus to meet on June 10, 2002 for a special meeting to review the planning process.
b. Chula Vista General Plan - Move to June 2002 meeting
c. Dangerous Conditions at Parks - Deputy Director of Public Works Operations Byers distributed
Dangerous Conditions at Parks Report provided by the Police Department. Discussion held on
the information provided.
d. Life Options - Assistant Recreation Director Shy talked about Life Options and stated that the
City has received grant funding to start -up the establishment of this program and annex at
Norman Park Center. This program is a welcoming place for participants to get resource
information about volunteer opportunities, share ideas about community enhancement programs
and create learning events for citizens. This program is geared for participants 50 -65 years of age
who are entering retirement.
3. Unfinished Business -None
4. NEW BUSINESS - None
5. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
6. COMMISSION COMMENTS
7. STAFF COMMENTS - None
8. Other - None
Adjournment at 9:00 p.m. to the scheduled workshop of June 10, 2002 at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Margarita Cellano, Administrative Secretary
Recreation Department